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restrictive covid restrictions here. >> can i make a suggestion? go out and hug babies in front of cameras. that does it for us this morning. chris jansing picks up the coverage right now. hi there. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle from msnbc headquarters in new york. it's tuesday, june 15th, and we start with breaking news. right now president biden is leaving brussels boarding air force one just seconds ago, heading to geneva and into the biggest meeting of his presidency so far. the face-to-face summit with russian president vladimir putin. it's not the first time they've met. that would have been a decade ago when biden famously said he told putin he didn't think he had a soul. it won't exactly be a friendly meeting, but it will be an extremely important one for both men. a chance to show strength and
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resolve to each other and the rest of the world. i want to bring in nbc white house correspondent monica alba. she's traveling with the president. she's already made it to geneva. nbc correspondent keir simmons is already in geneva where he had that interview with putin. great to have all of you with us. monica, give us a sense of the president's mindset going into this meeting and how the white house is setting expectations. >> reporter: well, the stakes are incredibly high, chris, but the expectations are a little bit lower. they're not anticipating a big or major breakthrough from these talks, but the president yesterday really gave us his clearest view of how he's approaching president putin, someone he did meet a decade ago under very different circumstances when he was vice president and when pint was prime minister of russia. tomorrow when they meet overlooking lake geneva just behind me for multiple hours,
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they will be in two different sessions, a smaller one, then an expanded bilateral session. we don't know exactly how long it's going to last, but we do know the president is prepared to confront putin on a number of items, including ransomware attacks, election interference. we know how he's assessing vladimir putin, giving us some insight of how he views him as a character when he was at nato yesterday. take a listen to how he framed it. >> it's in our mutual interest and in the interest of the world to cooperate. let's see if we can do that. in the areas where we don't agree, make it clear where the red lines are. i have met with him. he's bright, he's tough, and i have found that he is a -- as they say when i used to play
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bal -- a worthy adversary. >> reporter: the president says in terms of cooperation, they will be talking about climate change, arms control, containing iran's nuclear ambitions and a whole other list of things. so we expect the president, though, to come out by himself after this summit wraps up and hold his own press conference with the white deciding by design they don't want to give president putin the same image that former president trump had in helsinke all of those years ago, instead deciding they want this president to be able to be frank about all of the issues he confronted putin on and talk about that. which we expect to hear from president putin as well individually, and then of course we'll compare the two sides, because putin is known to sometimes exaggerate and misrepresent the facts. the president will be making his way to geneva here shortly, chris, and we know he has been extensively preparing for several weeks, holding a session at the white house before he departed for europe with a group of about ten experts on russia,
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including, of course, those who have met with and been present with several meetings with putin over the last decade or so. chris? >> ambassador, you're one of the folks she just referenced, so we're really fortunate to have you today. not only have you interacted with vladimir putin in the past, you were there when biden met with him ten years ago. so when you briefed the president, what did you tell him about what to expect from vladimir putin? >> well, i'm not going to comment on my private conversations with president biden, but i have briefed the president ten years ago and i told his advisors about what to expect. putin loves to play the what-aboutism game, compare things that are not equivalent. two, he can sometimes roll out surprises. remember, he did that with
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president trump in helsinke in 2018 where, in front of all of the cameras, he said we should swap critical information with both countries. he had just indicted intelligence officers right before that summit, and putin said, well, we have some people we think have broken russian law. we would like to interrogate them as well. i remember that well because i was on that list. president trump did not know how to respond well. those were the two tactical things we discussed ten years ago that the vice president needs to be prepared for as well as his meeting here in just a few hours -- few days to go, i guess. >> yeah, the big lead-up until tomorrow. keir, we know that the white house has been watching your interview with vladimir putin very closely. we heard president biden say putin is a worthy adversary yesterday when he had that press
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conference. so after spending time with the russian president, do you think he feels the same way about president biden? >> reporter: you know, chris, i think that is a challenging question to answer. we do know from my interview with president putin what he said. he praised, if you like, president biden's long experience. we don't know what president putin is doing inside the kremlin there to prepare for the summit. it's possible that he is studying hard. it's possible that after 20 years of leading russia, he feels confident enough not to. we know what president putin has said cynically about america in the past. he has said that america has changed while washington doesn't change. so i think president biden should be prepared for a cynical view from president putin. we've said before that it may be that they have to tackle individual issues rather than to try to solve the entire relationship. clearly they are not going to be able to do that, chris. >> one of the things, obviously,
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as all the issues that are so critical, ambassador, from cyberattacks to the crackdown on the opposition, including alexey navalny and his followers. i'm very curious about what you think sort of the mood will be in there. keir has spoken in the last couple of days after interviewing putin sort of about his tactics that make you think about him as the former kgb agent. is he studying for this? obviously he has to approach this differently than he did with donald trump, and what would you expect from him in terms of sort of his strategy? >> well, remember, vladimir putin doesn't need to get anything out of this meeting. back when i worked in the state department in the white house, we used to use the word "deliverables" for these summits. what are the deliverables, the outcomes that will lead to tangible benefit for the american people? vladimir putin doesn't have to have any deliverables other than just showing up. remember, he didn't request this
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meeting. president biden did. and then i think rebutting the long list you just outlined. and he's really good at that. let's be clear. he knows that list well, he knows how to respond, and if the outcome was no outcome, no deliverables, that's just fine for mr. putin. >> does anything on that list make you nervous? i was listening to you talk to nikole wallace yesterday and what was your biggest fear? >> in my opinion, his greatest fear is holding power. he's slipped in the polls. he's been there 21 years. anyone would slip in the polls after 21 years. his chief prisoner is alexey navalny.
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alexey navalny is not talking about things like liberalism and democracy. that's what putin fears the most. >> we know that president biden is likely to bring up ties between russia and china. a senior official told "politico" that the u.s. now says it is, quote, a quasi alliance. what can you tell us about that partnership and what it could mean for the united states? >> reporter: well, i think it's a really important question. long term probably the most important question. the relationship between china and russia has been improving since back in the days of gorbachev and yeltsin. i think it's important to register that there are issues. just for example, china abstained on the crimea vote on the security council. the big banks have been careful not to countervene u.s. sanctions with russia. so there is a gap. what president putin told me is
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he's seen countries trying to tear each other apart, and he's determined not to see that happen. after saying that, i think the long-term strategic challenge for the u.s. is how do you deal with that growing alliance between china and russia, because their power combined, i think, is the greatest threat in the long term. >> what's your take on that, ambassador? >> well, i agree. they have become -- russia and china are closer today than probably any time in their history. there was a brief honeymoon period after mr. mau took over in the communist revolution, but after that there was a split back in the cold war days. remember, the split took place very early on. today they're close, and i think they'll be close for a long time to come because mute indoesn't have any options. however, i do think it's dangerous for the united states and the biden administration to think that somehow they're going to peel off putin away from
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china as a balance of power tactic, so thinking about what nixon did during the cold war. that will not work, because putin is not going to trust an erratic democratic country like the united states of america versus autocratic china. number two, so what? what would the united states gain out of that split? so i think there is this kind of talk. we need to divide these countries. i disagree. i think president biden has the right frame which is we are in an era of a competition between autocracies and democracies, and i think he's right to try to tighten the strength between the democracies. >> thank you, ambassador mcfaul, keir, monica alba, appreciate all of you. the biden administration laying out a new strategy to combat domestic terrorists, specifically white supremacists, qanon followers and
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anti-government groups intent on causing violence. it comes on the same day that two house hearings will focus on the january 6th insurrection. and speaker pelosi will meet with her committee chairs to discuss next steps for an investigation. i want to bring in nbc justice correspondent pete williams and ken dilanian who covers intelligence and national security. ken, you just posted this morning a big article about this. is this new strategy a direct response to january 6, or is there more to it than that? >> chris, clearly the intense focus on this issue was prompted in part by the january 6 riots which some experts say was the most consequential domestic terrorism incident in our history. but it goes beyond that, chris. when president biden took office, he ordered up an intelligence assessment on terrorism. that assessment found that between 2017 and 2019, there were 57 deaths from domestic terrorism, 47 of which were racially motivated. they found that 2019 was the
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most lethal year of domestic terrorist incidents since 1995, the year of the oklahoma city bombing. what this and other reviews found is that the u.s. government is just not well situated to tackle this threat. so this new strategy calls for, among other things, more focus by the fbi on this problem and more scrutiny by the department of homeland security and other agencies of what extremists say on social media, and that's going to be controversial. what this report doesn't do, this strategy, is take a position on whether there needs to be a new domestic terrorism law. the white house punted that to the justice department which is going to review that and make decision in the months ahead, chris. >> and, pete, this comes just after nbc got a look at a new fbi bulletin on qanon that made it clear that this threat is very much an ongoing concern. it said, quote, the current environment likely will continue to act as a catalyst for some to begin accepting a legitimacy of violent action. what more can you tell us about the specific threats they're worried about? >> well, this is an unclassified
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version of a classified report on qanon that the fbi sent to congress and a couple members of congress said, give us an unclassified version, and that's what it is. it largely mirrors what the fbi has been saying publicly. for followers of qanon, january 6 was kind of a dividing point, with a lot of them saying, you know what, we can't trust q, this isn't what we thought it was, nothing with q is happening. and many are turning away from this movement and searching for something else to latch onto. others are taking january 6 as a lesson in saying, you know, we need to become more violent. that's basically what it says, that this is a dividing point and that some may take january 6th as a call to become more violent. >> when you look, pete, at this new strategy to deal with domestic terrorism, there are folks that have already raised concerns about individuals being targeted because of their political leanings or their speech. i know you talked to dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas.
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what did he have to say? >> i agree with ken that what this strategy is is more what the government has been doing and trying to get a better handle of what's going on on social media since it was so clearly a big factor in what led up to january 6th. so the question is, does that mean going into where the government shouldn't go and violating people's free expression? here's what the secretary said. >> so we don't monitor individuals on social media. what we do is we identify and analyze narratives that are perpetuated on social media. we see trends and potentially language with respect to a drive to violence and we push that out to our state, local, tribal, territorial partners. we are not targeting speech, we are not attacking speech. what we are focused on is
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violence. >> so what the government is saying here, the fbi and dhs both say that when it comes to individuals, all they're interested in, all they care about is people who are potentially violent and are taking steps toward that. but on the other hand, dhs is saying we can't ignore what may be larger trends on social media. so that's the fine line they're trying to walk. >> then always the question, ken, is how do you pay for what you're going to do. your reporting says the plan includes 77 million for local governments, 100 million for the federal government. those numbers don't mean a lot to a lot of people when you put it in sort of context. is it enough? is anybody saying that the strategy that's there and the funding for it and sufficient? >> i don't know if it's sufficient, chris, but it's a tiny amount of money in comparison to what the u.s. government spends on international terrorism. one study back in 2017 calculated that the u.s. is spending $180 billion a year on counter-terrorism. that includes overseas
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operations in iraq and afghanistan, but it takes a long time and a lot of effort to turn the aircraft carrier of the u.s. government from one big problem to another, and that's what's going on here. these sums of money, i suspect, are only the beginning of this process, chris. >> ken dilanian and pete williams, nice to see you guys. thank you so much. the senate is looking into why trump's justice department secretly sees democrats' records. they put more pressure on the doj to back those bogus fraud claims. later, after protests and lawsuits in houston, we're going to be talking with the head of the new york hospital about why he is making all of his employees get vaccinated, and what sort of blowback he might be anticipating. be anticipating.
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developing now, house and senate committees say they'll surveil the justice department. adam schiff said he talked about it with the current attorney general, merrick garland. merrick garland said he'll toughen rules for seasoned data. also with us, u.s. times washington correspondent charlie savage, and former u.s. attorney and legal analyst joyce vance. great to see all of you. garrett, look, we've seen
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committee after committee investigate trump officials over the last four years. arguably, not much tangible came out of it. so how is this going to work? >> reporter: i think we'll see the majority of action come from the house side. their democrats can unilaterally issue subpoenas and they can try and drag some of these former officials in front of committees to testify. but i would caution people who may be watching this closely that you may have to watch it for quite some time. don mcgahn is illustrative of this. this is the former president's legal counsel who went before the house committee for years and was finally brought before closed door deposition just two weeks ago. we may see a similar situation here as trump doj officials try to fight for subpoenas, argue for privilege, argue for the kind of things that might present the kind of public testimony that democrats will want to have. >> joyce, some legal experts have argued that the inspector general are going to take care of this. is that enough or are these
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investigations needed? >> it's important to have multiple venues for investigation. the inspector general will take a look. it will be a comprehensive one as to whether misconduct occurred inside doj. it won't be a criminal investigation, it will be more of an administrative overview, and typically these things can take months. for instance, the investigation into former fbi director andy mccabe, acting director took about eight months to complete, and that one was done on a quick timeline. so it's critical that the house engage in oversight functions. as in the case of mcgahn where it let that subpoena run for two years, it will be important for it to reassert its priorities and its determination to get this sort of information because it's important that we get a full picture of what went on here. it's not entirely clear. was this incidental collection of congressional data pursuant to a legitimate properly
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predicated investigation into leaks that could have impacted national security, or was this, as many people are concerned, some sort of inappropriate targeting of people in congress and others who had run afoul of the president? >> meanwhile, charlie, you've got some new reporting about garland's meeting with other targets, your paper, the "times," cnn, the "washington post." what can you tell us about what happened inside those conversations? >> well, under the rules that the media executives agreed to, they could not talk about what garland said to them but only what they said to garland. they described themselves as having pushed to -- garland has said and president biden has said before him that they're not going to allow prosecutors to seize reporters' phone and e-mail records anymore in a hunt for their sources. president biden calling that simply, simply wrong. that's a major change to how the justice department has conducted itself under administrations of both parties in this century. so that's a big deal. and the media executives are
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pushing garland to do that by changing department regulations so that it will be harder for a future administration to roll back rather than just issuing a policy memo that someone else could make an exception to or rescind without even telling the public about it. without getting into what he said to them, they described themselves as extremely pleased with how the meeting had went and what they heard from biden justice department officials, so it looks like, i surmise, that he is, indeed, considering changing that regulation to borrow this practice. >> charlie, i want to ask you about some other reporting in your paper. your colleague at the "new york times," katie benner, saying that trump wanted him to back him, so clearly he had no problems pushing this through the justice department. >> katie benner is the latest fallout from e-mails executive
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committees are getting out of the justice department now that they have a justice department that's more friending, from their point of view, to work with, i suppose. right as bill barr was stepping out of the attorney general role and he was trying to get the new attorney general to back his claims of election fraud, including claims that had already been thrown out of court in both michigan and texas had been debunked and he was trying to get the new attorney general to reinvigorate them, which rosen had no interest in doing and was kind of running away from the president. this was, of course, another violation from the post-watergate norm of the white house not having that kind of directive activity onto the justice department. >> joyce, it's no surprise given what we know about the way
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donald trump operated, but how does it fit into the big picture? what's your reaction? >> i think this reporting is astonishing, and it's most astonishing to me -- i had to go and double-check when doj provided these e-mails to the house, because it seems like something that rosen, the acting attorney general, might have voluntarily spoken up about during impeachment proceedings following the insurrection. this seems to be evidence that president trump was focused on overthrowing the election. that's not surprising. we already know it. but here we have it in writing. and what has really the feeling of an order to the new incoming guy at doj, that he, too, should get on the trump train here and be part of the effort to overthrow a legitimate election. it's stunning that these e-mails didn't surface until may of this year and that the house, gi he is -- i guess, was aware that
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they existed or was asking for documents from the doj and they were provided at that time. >> joyce, charlie, garrett, thank you. appreciate it. remember those texas democrats who staged a walkout to stop a restrictive voting bill in their state? today they're on capitol hill to continue the fight. we'll take you there next. fight we'll take you there next.
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sweeping federal voting rights reform bill looks to be dead on arrival in the senate in part because west virginia senator joe manchin said he won't support a bill that doesn't have bipartisan support. as hope for the federal voting rights rescue dims, state democrats and advocates are turning up the heat. a group of texas legislators who blocked a restrictive voting bill on their own are on capitol hill today. joining me sahil kippur and ali vitale who just came from the hill where democrats are facing pressure on the hill. what do we think they can achieve and do we know if senator manchin is in on their meetings? >> reporter: chris, i'm told by a democratic aide they're having a texas legislator coming to
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talk about it. these are legislators that have tried to pace restrictive voting law, and joe manchin said this will in lieu of the for the people voting act. >> how much support was there for manchin to alternatively oppose the voting rights bill? what did you hear from voters? >> that definitely exists. you have to remember this is ruby red, west virginia, a state that donald trump won in both 2016 and 2020. at the same time, though, the whole point of yesterday's grassroots movement is to show there are people on the ground in west virginia who do want manchin to fall this line with democrats, especially when it comes to this voting protection push. for instance, kathy speaking not just about voting protections but also about the larger need for infrastructure and to back that bill as well. take a listen. >> all the roads are falling
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apart here and we need to get some things done. we need people to see that the democrats are the ones that help them, and we need to make sure that our votes can't get stolen. >> reporter: do you think that joe manchin and the positions he's taking right now are representative of all west virginians? >> i think they're representative of almost no west virginians. >> and, chris, some democrats you talked to actually look at polls from democratic-leaning pollsters and others that show that from an idealogic perspective, this for the people act, voting plans are popular not just to elections in west virginia but also to republicans. that's why people are hopeful that the more they pressure manchin on the ground and more in d.c., because this that i
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attended yesterday was happening in charleston at the capitol, but they're also coming to d.c. next week to continue the sustained pressure. they know that manchin is a no right now, but they're hoping they can change that. >> it will be fascinating to see because we know polls on restricting guns have not meant anything to members of congress, right, so senator manchin, sahil, is insisting on bipartisan support. but yesterday mitch mcconnell said it's highly unlikely, for example, he would let biden fill a supreme court vacancy in 2024 if the gop flips the senate. what does that tell you about where republicans stand on bipartisanship? are they even negotiating in good faith? is joe manchin being played? >> reporter: well, his progressive critics would argue that he's being played, but it does show the two parties have kind of different views about bipartisanship, and this shows up in polls over and over again. democrats register larger support than do republicans. but with senator manchin, he
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does not need to be convinced that mitch mcconnell is not someone who is interested in compromising bipartisanship. manchin has a low opinion of senator mcconnell, but he does believe, he said this over and over again, that there are 10 to 15 republican senators who are willing to work with him, to work with democrats in good faith to produce legislation. so far, chris, the trend of this congress has been that democrats do not have a path to finding 10 senate republican votes without the stamp of approval of senator mcconnell, and democrats say, okay, senator manchin, you want to prove that you can put that to the test? show us who the ten republicans are and deliver the votes. so far he hasn't been able to do that, but he's still trying. >> to be continued. thanks to both of you, much appreciated. and coming up, the battle over masks and vaccines that's heating up all across the country, even turning deadly at a supermarket in georgia. up next we'll talk to one doctor at the center of this debate. te ? get outta here. everybody's a skeptic. wright brothers? more like, yeah right, brothers!
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this morning california is back in business, scrapping most covid restrictions for the first time since the pandemic began. when i say "open," i mean wide open with capacity restrictions, distancing and the mask mandate being lifted if you're fully vaccinated. of course, we can't forget the last year with the covid death toll passing 600,000 yesterday. guad is here with us. guad, everything is back to normal? what are you hearing? >> reporter: chris, good morning. it feels like it's going to go back to normal because california was one of the last states to lift these mask mandate rules, right? what we know right now is that the mask will not be required for people that are fully vaccinated, yet businesses will have the final decision. businesses can still decide to implement a mask rule for
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everyone inside, only those who have not received the vaccine. and california has announced they will have an electronic verification system for those who have received the vaccine. the governor is expected to give more details. but i think the biggest news today is the fact that all of these businesses here and all over the state will be able to operate with no capacity limits. it's been a very long time since the businesses in california have been able to operate. we're talking about theaters, restaurants, bars, even places like disneyland that expect lots of tourists to be coming in. so there is a lot of excitement in california, but there's also going to be a process to get used to the way life is now, right? people are going to be carrying that mask around because they say they're scared, some business owners saying it will take time to get back to normal now that they're operating with full capacity. they have to hire back some of the workers that have been at home because they just didn't have the need for them, so it's going to be a gradual change in california that beginning today fully reopens its economy,
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chris. >> guad, thanks so much for this. back in new york, another huge hospital system is requiring workers to get vaccinated. new york presbyterian became the first in the state to mandate the shot, and now all 48,000 of their employees need to get vaxed before september. it comes after we saw hospital workers protest vaccine mandates in states like texas and indiana. and while a mask mandate fight in a georgia grocery store ended with the store clerk being shot and killed. joining me now, new york presbyterian's president and ceo, dr. steve corwin. thanks so much for taking the time, doctor. first mask mandates, now vaccination mandates. look, we all know they're fraught for many businesses and. organizations, and sadly in some cases have led to violence. what was your calculus in making the decision? >> it was very simple, chris. i think that 70% of our employees after six months have been vaccinated.
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we still have 30% of our employees not vaccinated. and my primary responsibility is to make sure that patients coming to our institution are safe. and i felt that the vaccine mandate would increase their safety. and i think it was very important for us to do that. we have very sick patients who come to the hospital. i don't want people to wonder whether their nurse or the environmental service worker or the unit clerk had been vaccinated. we do a lot of education, and we're going to continue to do that, but i felt by september 1st, everyone had to be vaccinated. >> there was a recent survey, doctor, from the ama that showed 96% of doctors say they're fully vaccinated. that number you just told us, 70% of your staff getting the shot is in line pretty much with state and city hospital workers. so for those who haven't, what's the hesitation? and what are you finding is the best approach? >> well, you know, we know that certainly people of color,
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minority communities, have been discriminated against, have been experimented upon, so you have to overcome that, and you overcome that with education. you show the safety profile of the vaccines. it's really important to do. in addition, you have to tell people, look, you may be young and healthy, but you can still get sick and you can infect others. and, of course, we've all seen that young and healthy people can die from this, and young and healthy people can infect others. so, really, it is a public health crisis, if you will, and the more people that get vaccinated, you just showed california opening. we can go to ball games, go to the theater, meet our friends. that's what this is all about. it should not be a partisan issue. >> dr. steven corwin from new york presbyterian. thank you so much. it's good to see you. we appreciate your time. coming up, a major briefing today that could decide the
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i booked our hotel on kayak. it's flexible if we need to cancel. cancel. i haven't left the house in a year. nothing will stop me from vacation. no canceling. flexible cancellation. kayak. search one and done. later today a bipartisan group of ten senators will brief their caucus on a possible infrastructure deal. although some sticking points including climate provisions and how to pay for it remain major obstacles. the u.s. infrastructure is, in many cases, and you know this if you actually go outside, it's
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crumbling. roads and bridges, dams and levees. it's affecting the country's ability to compete in the global economy. nbc's tom costello has been looking into all of this and he joins me now. good to see you, tom. what can you tell us about the overall state of our of our inf. frankly i hear this all of the time when i talk to people that travel to europe, travel to the rest of the world, how do we stack up? >> it is embarrassing to be honest with you. in terms of modern infrastructure we're not even in the top ten to give you a sense. here in washington dc, the nation's capital, 8% of the bridges are structurally deficient including the roosevelt bridge that goes from virginia to washington. no matter where you live, if you walk outside of your front door chances are you see the decay every single day. >> how many times has it happened to you? you hit a pothole and it ruins
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your tires and rims? >> i'm mad. i'm real upset. i'm real upset we should not have to drive on highways like this. >> the nation's civil engineers warn that america's under investment could under mine global competitiveness. take bridges, of 600,000, 46,000 are structurally deficient. the u.s. is ranked 13th in infrastructure. it including japan, south korea, france, and the u.k. as it and other countries upgrade railroads, ports, broadband, clean water, roads, and bridges. if you travel internationally you have probably seen it yourself. >> driving across belgium, austria, and germany, the roads
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are remarkable. while the u.s. has only one hide speed train that briefly hits 150 miles per hour in the northeast, asian and european trains travel much faster. we have the red arrow from rome to naples. >> it will hit 190 miles per hour. europe has invested heavily in high speed trains frommistly in the south to norway and finland in the north cutting down on air and road traffic and rushing people between cities. >> i think they're fantastic, always on time. meanwhile china is investing heavily across the board. >> china is already equipped with some of the worlds biggest airports. this is beijing's newest. the plan to build at least a dozen airports a year. by 2035 they'll have enough highspeed lines to circle the
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earth, twice. >> this vessel will travel for 30 days, it goes to vietnam. >> people need supplies. they need goods. that is how products get to stores and homes. >> that global cargo traffic only increased during the pandemic. importantly in many countries with more modern roads, ports, and railroads citizens pay more in taxes. the u.s. transportation secretary says it's time for a big national upgrade. >> we have been getting by on the investments that were made generations ago when we were willing to make big investments. >> with america's competitiveness on the line, fixing the nation's infrastructure has bipartisan support. the sticking point is how much we're willing to pay. >> it's always about the money, isn't it? we are 13 in the infrastructure,
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we're number two in competitiveness behind singapore because we have more transparency. we have law that's work, less regulation, and by and large this is seen as a friendly place to do business. but quite literally it is crumbling. >> yeah, and by the way the train that claudia was on looked good. it's always about the bottom line. that's what they're fighting about in congress right now. trying to come up with a number and once they have the number what will it cover. have you had conversations with folks about how much it would cost to fix all of this? to make it arguably more competitive? >> the total picture, according to the nation's civil engineers $2.6 trillion. if the country doesn't spend that kind of money the engineers warn we will start falling behind and lose $10 trillion in competitiveness, international business, and potentially millions of jobs. everyone agrees it needs to be done.
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the issue is do we want to spend the money to get it done? >> i think if you talk to, you know, the average american is exactly how you started our story. fix our roads, did you really not run across potholes driving across countries? >> i'm married to a european who is now a european-american. on that trip i was going through germany, switzerland, austria, i didn't hit a single pothole or chewed up road. if i took a off beat road i probably would have, but those are the main highways and infrastructure, roads across europe, they're in very good shape by and land in the big g 7 countries. >> i will also say, and i reported from italy a few weeks ago and drove from rome up into the center of italy. same thing, you know? the major roads were in pretty
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great shape. tom costello with arguably a great assignment although the actual bottom line here is a little depressing. we'll see where it goes for starters in congress. good to see you. that will wrap up this hour. hallie jackson picks it up next and we're keeping an eye abroad as we await the president's arrival in geneva for his meeting with vladimir putin. stick around for our continuing coverage. putin. stick around for our continuing coverage milo's can create new jobs, jobs for people like james and lacey and me. me, i love my work family. family here and home, is my life. life is better for us because of a job. a job created when you buy this tea at walmart. ♪ i got love ♪ ♪ i got love ♪ ♪ i got love mama... ♪ this is the sound of change. the sound of a thousand sighs of relief.
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