this is the united states. you can do that. and that's how -- the reason it's scarier is you can say all of that stuff and the line is blurry, and you can dog whistle until the point you're rushing the capitol. and that's exactly what happened on the 6th. it's a difficult intelligence issue. >> ben collins, thank you for staying on top of the story. i want to thank ken dilanian as well for his reporting this hour. thanks to all of you for joining us on this rock 'n' roll ride this hour of "hallie jackson reports." tomorrow a very big morning. we will be with you all morning long, special coverage on "msnbc reports." we'll be joined by our co-anchors, our best reporters on these beats, our analysts and experts talking through a critical moment for president biden. right now our coverage continues as we speak. good tuesday morning, everybody. we have a lot going on this morning. the countdown is on.

the president just arrived in geneva, switzerland, ahead of his big face-to-face with russian president vladimir putin. this hour he's set to meet with the swiss president. his focus will quickly shift to tomorrow's high-stakes summit. and this morning we're learning key new details about just how he is preparing. plus, some surprising names helping get him ready. we're going to dive into all of that ahead. we do want to start this hour with breaking news in america's response to domestic terror. any moment, as you see right there, attorney general merrick garland, is set to lay out the biden administration's new strategy against what he refers to as, quote, an emerging and accelerating threat. we're going to bring that you speech from the attorney general as soon as it gets started. we are already getting a preview of the administration's new posture from homeland security secretary. he says the number one focus of the plan to fight domestic

terror, to deter, detect, and prosecute groups intent on causing violence. >> we are focused on is violence. the incitement of violence, the drive to violence, the commission of violent acts. >> joining me is pete williams who conducted that interview and intelligence and national security correspondent ken dilanian and clint watts. he's worked as a consultant to the fbi counterterrorism division and is a distinguished research fellow and msnbc national security analyst. welcome to you all, guys. as we are awaiting this press conference, pete, i want to start with you. we heard part of your interview with secretary mayorkas on this new plan. walk us through, pete what this new strategy looks like and what pushed the administration to make it. >> reporter: well, in many ways it looks like what the government is already doing only

more so. better trying to coordinate with social media companies to keep tabs on the sort of trends that are out there in social media. this is one of the things that many people have faulted the government for not paying more attention to social media, to all the threats against washington leading up to the capitol riots in january. so the government wants to try to do a better job of that. more lawyers to prosecute, more intelligence analysts to look for trends, more outreach to communities to try to counter the violent extremist message. but that's, as i say, more of the same. in one way it is a break with the previous administration because the trump administration, in essence, at least from the white house perspective, downplayed the threat of domestic extremism. this administration has fully embraced it is the most dangerous. >> you laid it out in some reporting, quote, whether to

seek a law with specific criminal penalties committing or supporting domestic terrorism. they said they did not have enough information and asked the justice department to further review this issue. this is one of the biggest talking points, what is going on here? why haven't they address this had as of yet? >> what's going on this is a deeply controversial and complex public policy question. they weren't able to reach a consensus and have asked the justice department to study it and gather more data. there is no law criminalizing domestic terrorism in this country. none of the capitol rioters have been charged with domestic terrorism. federal prosecutors have put many isis and al qaeda sympathizers in prison for a small amount of support to those organizations. we don't have it in domestic law and some fbi officials believe

we need that to help empower more law enforcement scrutiny. it's controversial and they haven't decide wld to do it or not. >> clint, what do you think? >> there's a couple big challenges. they're talking about increasing information sharing. if we look at this a lot of these militia groups and people that showed up on january 6th had overlapping ties and so that's a tough part. they do a good job of mentioning the need in dod of policing extremism but are not saying what is extremism or is an extremist group. some of these organizations very clearly are talking about overthrow of government powers or nonobserving government powers but only going after the individual extremists and that goes back to what ken is saying. if there's no terrorism law,

you're really going all the way around the circle without getting at the heart of the problem. some want to overthrow through violence or the threat of violence processes. that will be a tough thing for them to crack going forward technically with the lack of bipartisanship that's going on on capitol hill. >> ken, let's talk about another of your reporting here and that's what clint was alluding to, declaring these organizations terrorist groups. the government can declare al qaeda is a terrorist organization but not necessarily proud boys. why is that? what's the debate going on there? >> reporter: it's about the first amendment of the constitution. people have the right to join groups and even express hateful ideas. it's not considered a possible, under current law, to designate

as a terrorist organization. there's a call in this strategy to take a harder look at international groups that may be supporting domestic terrorism. the intelligence community says that's not really a robust connection. groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers and the 3 percenters and whether they're terrorist groups, our law doesn't allow for that designation and makes prosecuting them difficult, more complex and that's why they are saying this is not about speech. this is about violent conduct. and really has to treat these people as individuals. the pitfall is when they're conspiring and saying things online as they were before january 6 that should have been a warning but was not treated as a warning. the question is why didn't the fbi pay more attention to that and is that because of holes in our legal system? >> clint, what exactly would happen if they're able to designate these domestic organizations as terrorist groups? how does that change the game?

>> it's a dramatic change for how people are investigated, based on group affiliation and their connections. think of al qaeda. if someone were to say i am inspired by osama bin laden, that becomes an al qaeda-inspired case, attached to a case at the federal level and the entire intelligence agency all work together and put those pieces together. it allows to you start to move, like ken was talking about, on things like material support to al qaeda or material support to terrorism. that leaves the fbi very flat-footed and puts the fbi and dhs, which we saw in the january 6 report last week and in this strategy in a weird place where they're not sure what publicly available information they're allowed to look at, what social media streams they are allowed to investigate because they haven't opened a case. there's not a case open which allows them to preemptively investigate.

that makes it very difficult, a very different line if you're an investigator to tread on. what is private information, public information, what is social media information? you can't pick up on every lead that says i am angry with the u.s. government. that's exactly what the department of justice was trying to stress in the opening moment that you showed today. >> pete, wrap this up for us here because as ken and clint were just kind of getting into, there have been some concerns raised about this new plan that individuals could be targeted because of their political leanings or their speech. what is the secretary, secretary mayorkas' administration saying about some of those concerns? >> reporter: it's a fine line because what they say is we want to monitor social media for trends. one of the things the fbi has said in this unclassified report on qanon it sent to congress is that one thing that's helped here is social media companies, and this is a word i haven't heard before until this report,

deplatforming qanon, depriving it, in a sense, of its audience. that's one of the things they want to do. they want to monitor for trends and what they say is they want to focus on individuals who advocate specific violent acts. the fact is it is protected speech in america to say the u.s. government ought to be overthrown. it's not to say let's go blow up city hall. that's where the difficulty is and trying to decide how to calibrate this question of domestic terrorism. while we were talking the fbi agents association, this is mostly retired fbi agents, saying that it is a domestic terrorism law. >> what is the likelihood these new policies come up in the january 6th hearings? >> i think it's likely because congress wants to know what is the u.s. government doing to make sure that something like january 6th can never happen

again and particularly they want to know why didn't the fbi and other agencies see some of these warnings we're all seeing and the answers are complicated. there are times the fbi can look at public social media and times it can't. a lot of that has to do with the rules of the road for what is considered speech inciting violence and what isn't. that's what this strategy shed some light on. >> all right, guys, ken, pete, clint, thank you all for now. we will continue to watch that press room, that press conference, and bring it to you as soon as it begins. but we are going to move on for now. we are keeping an eye on the president's trip overseas, who he's meeting with and how he's getting ready for tomorrow's high-stakes meeting with president vladimir putin. plus, over on capitol hill, as i just mentioned, january 6th is

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welcome back. we're following this breaking news. the attorney general speaking now on domestic terrorism. listen. >> u.s. marshal service, executive office for u.s. attorneys and with representatives of the national security division, civil rights division, the criminal division, and the office of justice programs. i'm pleased to announce that the administration is today releasing the first national strategy for countering domestic terrorism. each of your components will play an important role in ensuring its success. the national strategy is designed to coordinate and provide a principled path for the federal government's efforts to counter the heightened domestic terrorism threat using all available tools. it is the culmination of an effort undertaken at the president's direction by federal agencies all across the

government from the justice department to the departments of homeland security, defense, state, health, and human services and others. as part of this effort our law enforcement and intelligence agencies examine the evolving threat that faces us today. from that base of understanding we developed this national strategy to guide the work of a broad set of federal actors. at the justice department the deputy attorney general and i have already begun implementing a range of measures. among other things, we have begun to reinvigorate the domestic terrorism executive committee, and we will convene that interagency body in the coming days and months. attorney general janet reno originally created the executive committee in the aftermath of the 1995 oklahoma city bombing. the investigation of that bombing which required an enormous commitment of resources from agencies across the federal

and state governments, have demonstrated the importance of such a coordination mechanism. our current effort comes on the heels of another large and heinous attack. this time the january 6th assault on our nation's capitol. we have now, as we had then, an enormous task ahead. to move forward as a country, to punish the perpetrators, to do everything possible to prevent similar attacks, and to do so in a manner that affirms the values on which our justice system is founded and upon which our democracy depends. the resolve and dedication with which the department has approached the investigation of the january 6th attack reflects the seriousness we take this assault on the mainstay of our democratic system, the peaceful transfer of power.

over the 160 days since the attack, we have arrested over 480 individuals and brought hundreds of charges against those who attacked law enforcement officers, obstructed justice, and used deadly and dangerous weapons to those ends. that would have not been possible without the dedication of our career prosecutors and agents as well as the critical cooperation of ordinary americans who in acts large and small have shown that they are our best partners in keeping america safe. within the very first week following the attack members of the public took it upon themselves to submit over 100,000 pieces of digital media to the fbi. unfortunately, we know from experience that domestic terrorism and violent extremism comes in many forms. six years ago nine black men and

women were shot and killed while praying at their church in charleston. four years ago this week an attacker shot four people at a congressional baseball practice after confirm the players were republicans. two months later a man drove his car into a crowd of peaceful protesters against white sue problem sichl in charlottesville killing one and injuring many more. 2018 11 jewish worshippers were shot and killed at their synagogue in pittsburgh. and two summers ago 23 people, most of whom were latino, were gunned down while shopping at a walmart in el paso. such attacks are not only unspeakable tragedies for the victims' loved ones, they are also a tragedy for our country, an attack on our core ideals as a society. we must not only bring our

federal resources to bear, we must adopt a broader societal response to tackle the problems' deeper roots. this effort begins with taking a rigorous look at the problem we face. during president biden's first week in office he directed the administration to undertake an assessment of the domestic terrorism threat and then to use that assessment to develop the national strategy being released today. our intelligence and law enforcement agencies undertook that assessment in the first several weeks of this administration. in march they concluded extremists posed an elevated threat to the homeland in 2021. our experience on the ground confirms this. the number of open fbi domestic terrorism investigations this year has increased significantly. according to an unclassified summary of the march intelligence assessment, the two

most lethal elements of the domestic violence extremist threat are racially or ethically violent extremists and militia violent extremists. in the fbi's view, the top domestic violent threat comes from racially or ethnically, particularly those who advocated for the superiority of the white race. the march assessment concluded that the militia violent extremist threat, which is described as those who, quote, take overt steps to violently resist or facilitate the overthrow of the united states government in support of their belief that the united states government is purportedly exceeding its constitutional authority also increased last year and will almost certainly continue to be elevated throughout 2021. particularly concerning is the march assessment observation that the threat from lone

offenders or small cells pose a significant detection and disruption challenge because of those actors' capacity for independent radicalization to violence, ability to mobilize discreetly, and access to firearms. the domestic violence extremist threat is also rapidly involving. as director wray has noted we continue to observe actors driven by a diverse set of violent motivations, sometimes personalized and developed from a mix of violent ideologies. developments in technology exacerbate the overall threat. today people may be drawn to social media and then to encrypted communications channels. there they may interact with like minded people and indeed the world who want to commit violent attacks and they may then connect with others who are formulating attack plans as well

as mustering the resources including firearms and explosives to execute them. technology has amplified and enabled transnational elements of the threat. in earlier days foreign terrorist groups sat aboard airplanes to conduct attacks on america. now they take advantage of technology to inspire others already located in the u.s. to violence. the same is true for domestic violence extremists who increasingly take common cause and inspiration from events and actions around the world indicating an important international dimension to this problem. the man who allegedly killed one person and injured three in an april 2019 attack on a synagogue in poeway, california, cited as inspiration an attack that took place a month before halfway

across the world in christchurch, new zealand. that attack killed 51 people and injured dozens more at two mosques. in response to these many and serious challenges the national strategy today seeks to confront the threat from all angles. the strategy rests on four pillars, each of which is essential to support the whole. first our efforts to understand and share information regarding the full range of domestic terrorism threats. second, our efforts to prevent domestic terrorists from a successfully recruiting, inciting, and mobilizing americans to violence. third, our efforts to deter and disrupt domestic terrorist activity before it yields violence. and, finally, a long-term issue that contributes to domestic terrorism in our country must be addressed to ensure that this threat diminishes over generations to come.

we cannot prevent every attack. the only way to find sustainable solutions is not only to disrupt and deter but also to address the root causes of violence. we have not waited until completion of the national strategy to begin implementing it. at the justice department, for example, the fbi has increased the domestic threat information it provides to our state, local, tribal and territorial partners, enhancing training provided to these important partners and continues to work closely with them in our joint terrorism task forces. through the anti-terrorism advisory councils we have established in every u.s. attorney's office across the country, we are strengthening our domestic terrorism related prosecutorial resources and expertise. our civil rights and national

security divisions are working more closely than ever in determining whether a given investigation should be handled as a hate crime, an incident of domestic terrorism, or both this will ensure we consider all appropriate criminal offenses and that whenever we encounter domestic terrorism we treat it for what it is. through a directive we issued earlier this year we are ensuring we carefully track investigations and cases with a domestic terrorism nexus and dedicating additional resources to helping states, localities, and others focus on the threat. the office of community oriented policing services, for example, has started prioritizing grants to local law enforcement agencies committed to community based approaches to combatting racially motivated violence and domestic terrorism. and we will seek to determine whether there are any gaps in

our capabilities that should consistent with our needs and our shared values be addressed through legislation. to support these efforts, the president's discretionary budget request for fiscal year 2022 seeks over $100 million in additional funds for the justice department to address the threat of domestic violent extremism and domestic terrorism. the actions that agencies are taking in support of the federal -- of the national strategy are held together by several core principles. first, we are focused on violence not on ideology. in america espousing a hateful ideology is not unlawful. we do not investigate individuals for their first amendment protected activities. in 1976 attorney general levy

formed the foundation for a detailed set of rules that continued to govern the fbi's conduct of investigations today. in doing that he made clear that, quote, government monitoring of individuals or groups because they hold unpopular or controversial political views is intolerable in our country. as a national strategy makes clear, safeguarding our country's civil rights and liberties is itself a vital national security imperative. we do not prosecute people for their beliefs. across the world extremists or terrorist labels have at times been affixed to those perceived as political threats to the ruling order. but there is no place for partisanship in the enforcement of the law. the justice department will not tolerate any such abuse of

authority. the national strategy explains that it is, quote, critical that we condemn and confront domestic terrorism regardless of the particular ideology that motivates individuals to violence, closed quote. although we often describe motivations by reference to different violent ideologies, the purpose of those characterizations is to help us categorize and understand motivations. that is why even as we're here today to discuss domestic terrorism related violence, we are addressing violent crime more broadly. including through a directive to reduce violent crime that the deputy attorney general and i announced last month in the form of a new initiative. even as we augment against domestic terrorism we are relentless on international

terrorism perpetrated by foreign terrorist organizations like al qaeda and isis. our focus as members of the department of justice and as a federal government is to prevent, disrupt, and deter unlawful acts of violence, whatever their motive. as a national strategy makes clear, there is no place for violence as a means of resolving political differences in our democracy. the second principle is that we need not only a whole of government but also a whole of society approach to domestic terrorism. implementation will, therefore, occur across the federal government and beyond. the state department will focus on the transnational aspects of

domestic terrorism including mapping links between foreign and domestic terrorists and with the department of the treasury it will assess whether foreign organization and individuals linked to domestic terrorism can be designated as terrorists. the department of homeland security is expanding its intelligence analysis production and sharing. state and local partners and enhancing community based operations of state and industry partners to address threats while protecting privacy, civil rights and civil liberties. the development of resources and media literacy as a mechanism to strengthen resilience to misinformation and disinformation. the department of homeland security is focused on community based violence prevention

programs. to community partners and help prevent individuals from ever reaching the point. the department of defense will train service members on the potential targeting of current and former military members in order to help prevent radicalization. the department of health and human services will work with education, homeland security and justice to develop a website on federal resources including grants and technical assistance that can assist state and local authorities in identifying the resources they need to implement their own counter domestic terrorism programs. and those are a few examples. we have a track record of

successful collaborative approaches to the challenges posed by terrorism. not just at the federal level but also with our state, local, tribal and territorial partners. the justice department's first joint terrorism task force, for example, was established in new york in 1980. at the time it was staffed with just 11 fbi investigators and the new york city police department. today our approximately 200 joint task force have 11,300 officers for more than 550 local state and federal agencies. every day as our first line of defense against terrorist attacks. the work that we do to enhance the resources and capabilities of our local partners who are on the front lines of our counterterrorism efforts is vital to our success.

nearly every day i get a briefing from the fbi director and his team. in those briefings i am struck by the frequency with which a critical tim or lead in an investigation comes from a state or local law enforcement member or a member of the public. nearly 50% of our cases originate from tips and leads from law enforcement or private sector partners and private citizens who identify potential threats and report them to the fbi or our partners. groups continue to come to us depends on the extent to which we can continue to merit their trust. this includes making sure that our determinations are made tree from bias. so that, too, must be part of our long-term approach.

equally important is our work with partners. the government should continue to enhance the domestic terrorism related information it offers to the private sector. the technology sector is important for platforms to recruit, incite, plot attacks, and foment hatred. along with more than 50 other countries the united states has joined the christchurch call to action to collaborate with each other and relevant stakeholders including tech companies, ngos and academics to tackle the online aspects of this threat. the christchurch call is one example of the many productive engagements we have had with our international partners. our third principle is that we build upon and learn from the past.

a look at our past efforts to combat terrorism teaches valuable lessons about what can go right and what can go wrong. it should give us hope about our ability to rise and adapt to the challenge. i'm personally struck by three events that occurred not far from each other at different points in the last 100 years. when i visited the greenwood district in april of this year where black wall street once thrived in tulsa, oklahoma, i was struck by the failure to do justice after the 1921 massacre. over 1,250 homes were burned down. some 10,000 people left homeless. businesses, schools, houses of worship and 35 city blocks were destroyed. the number of people killed is

estimated in the hundreds. all of that destruction and death and not a single person was prosecuted for it. almost 75 years later, just over 100 miles southwest of tulsa in oklahoma city, after an attack that resulted in the deaths of 168 people the justice department successfully apprehended, prosecuted and convicted the men responsible for the bombing of the murrah federal building. and five years ago across oklahoma's northern border in kansas federal authorities disrupted a bomb for a mosque to kill its residents, immigrants from somalia. working with joint terrorism task force partners the government prevented the bombing.

no one died, and those who sought to commit it were convicted of their crimes. since the tragedy of 9/11, we have changed our intelligence community infrastructure, created national mechanisms for coordinating counterterrorism efforts across the government and disrupted and prosecuted hundreds of terrorism related offenses through a legal system that has proven resilient and just. we cannot promise that we will be able to disrupt every plot, defuse every bomb, or arrest every co-conspirator before they manage to wreak unspeakable horror, but we can promise that we will do everything in our power to prevent such tragedies and can further promise we will never again fail as we did after

tulsa to pursue justice. finally, the long-term issues that contributed to domestic terrorism in america must be addressed to ensure this threat diminishes over generations to come. we must promote a society that is to rant of our differences and respectful of our disagreements. the justice department remains acutely aware of the continuing let posed by international terrorist organizations. we will never take our eyes off the risk of another devastating attack by foreign terrorists. at the same time we must respond to domestic terrorism with a same sense of purpose and dedication. attacks by domestic terrorists

are not just on immediate victims but all of us collectively aimed at rending the fabric of our democratic society and driving us apart. to confront the menace they pose, we must understand and share information regarding the full range of threats we face, prevent domestic terrorists from successfully recruiting, inciting, and mobilizing americans to violence. we double and expand our efforts to deter and disrupt domestic terrorism activity before it yields violence and address the long-term issues that contribute to domestic terrorism in our country. the national strategy for countering domestic terrorism is a key step in our efforts. we have much work ahead. thank you all for joining me today and for the work you do to put this strategy into action.

thank you. [ applause ] if you are just joining us, you were listening to attorney general merrick on combatting domestic terrorism and what inspired the new strategy, the events over the last decade, the shooting at several synagogues across this country harkening all the way back to the tulsa massacre and changing the policy in this country. talking about the findings of which there's an elevated threat in this country to the homeland. he talks about the role of social media and the cash that is needed to do this, the $100

million in resources they are going to dedicate to this effort to change the policy. pete, i will start with you on this one and go around the horn here. give me your reaction to what we just heard from the attorney general. >> reporter: some of this seems quite logical and some very aspirational. to try to detect and deter violent extremism, a repeated emphasis, we're not going after ideology. we don't care if it's left inspired, right inspired, just looking for potential acts of violence. the notion that somehow the fet government or homeland security are somehow going to get at the root cause of racial hatred or ethnically motivated hatred, i

don't see how the government does that he canively. >> ken? >> i agree with pete. the speech underscored how this is much more than just what happened on january 6th. as consequential as that was. merrick garland reminded us he was the lead prosecutor on the oklahoma city bombing case back in 1995. two anti-government extremists, far-right extremists, blew up the federal building in oklahoma city, killed 168 people, including 19 children,a daycare center. and a lot of people in the post-january 6 environment, a lot of my sources as we were talking about the government's response to domestic terrorism, raise this as a moment where some people thought this would have been the wake-up call back then to the problem of extremism that courses through our society, but it wasn't. it was considered a one-off. and then 9/11 happened and our society was transformed in tackling international terrorism. garland alluded to the intelligence assessment president biden ordered into

domestic terrorism at the beginning of his administration, and it really found that, again, beyond january 6th there were 57 deaths from domestic terrorism, 47 of which were racially motivated and the big drivers are anti-government activists. this is a problem that the biden administration has decided merits an elevated response from the entire federal government from the fbi dhs, treasury, the state department. that's what this strategy is about, elevating this issue and throwing money at it, yes, and maybe some esoteric ideas that never may see the light of day, but it's a focus on tackling this problem which had been missing. >> a focus. and i have to wonder if $100 million is even enough money with what they have to combat. >> $100 million? it's a drop in the bucket.

that doesn't get you too far in the federal government. i agree with pete, getting at the root cause, you need billions to deal with that. if it's a whole of society approach you have to get all onboard. we just don't have that in this country. if it's on violence then the resources and the commitment should go to law enforcement and investigations. that's where we need to be focused at stopping the next boom to the mass shooting that might occur from one of these extremist ideologies. >> thanks for sticking with me, guys. really appreciate it. so we just heard from the attorney general. and right now house democrats are pressing forward with plans to investigate the january 6 insurrection. speaker nancy pelosi huddling with committee chairs to discuss their path forward. two house committees are holding hearings on the attacks this afternoon. fbi director chris wray will be one of the key witnesses during a house oversight committee hearing this afternoon.

at the same time capitol police inspector michael bolton testifying before the house administration committee. joining me is correspondent leigh ann caldwell and debbie wasserman schultz. congresswoman schultz is the share of the committee and sits on the house oversight committee. welcome to you both. what can you tell us about the meeting the speaker is having with committee chairs and any plans they have to move forward? >> reporter: so those committee chairs and the speaker have been meeting for an hour and ten minutes, still huddled in there. we haven't gotten any news yet what they've decided or are leaning towards. they do have some actions and there's a couple of them including having another vote on the creation of a january 6th commission by potentially making some changes people like senator susan collins, republican of maine, wanted. they can create a select committee, they can have the

standing committees authorized to continue to investigate or they can deputize one specific committee to take the lead on these investigations and that would be something like the homeland security committee. now that seems to be an option that a lot of democrats do like and that is because the top republican of that committee is someone who worked on the creation and the framework that members of his own party voted against. we are waiting and are told there will be a lot of conversations not only in this meeting happening today but today and tomorrow we could perhaps get some sort of signal on which way speaker pelosi is going to choose by the end of the week. >> congresswoman schultz, what do you want to hear from the fbi director? >> i want to hear why their response to the reports they were getting leading up to the

attack on january 6 were so lackluster. we saw merrick garland lay out what happens when we don't actually have the whole of government approach. you end up having supporters of someone like donald trump get him all the way to the white house, a united states capitol sacking that was the worst in more than 200 years. and folks in the government from the department of justice to the department of defense who didn't have an appropriate or urgent response and that's dangerous to our democracy, and we have to make sure that we are putting together the answers to the questions why the white house all the way to president trump, which we'll get answers today, actually tried to get the department of justice to challenge and overturn a presidential election that was demonstrated and confirmed to have the least amount of problems that we've had in

decades. >> congresswoman, you heard from the attorney general the new strategy in approaching domestic terrorism. two things that they have failed to address as of yet and i want to get your reaction to that. whether to seek a law with specific criminal penalties for committing or supporting domestic terrorism, also designating these organizations as terrorist groups as they do with groups like al qaeda. your reaction? >> i support doing both of those things. it is essential we make domestic terrorism a crime with real penalties. it has to be certain, swift and severe. unfortunately when it comes to the crimes of domestic terrorism we've seen across the country prosecuting domestic terrorism itself rather than the more component crimes is damaging to us being able to make sure that we can snuff out this rash of

domestic terrorism. >> i wish we had more time. thank you. coming up, everybody, president biden has just had one meeting with a world leader and the clock is ticking to his big face-to-face summit with putin tomorrow. up next, the preparations he's doing ahead of the high-stakes meeting and what tomorrow's summit will look like. summit will look like. so with your home & auto bundle, you'll save money and get round-the-clock protection. -sounds great. -sure does. shouldn't something, you know, wacky be happening right now? we thought people could use a break. we've all been through a lot this year. -that makes sense. -yeah. so... ♪♪ now's not a good time 3/5ths of nsync. are you sure? you have us booked all day.

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>> there have been a lot of questions about how this was going to go tomorrow. now we have a really good sense. we know president putin will arrive first around 1:00 p.m. local time, 7:00 a.m. eastern where you are. then president biden will arrive. then their first bilateral meeting. the president will be joined by secretary of state blinken. there will be translation. then they will open it up to a more expanded meeting which will include others from both sides. that will be more like 12 to 15 people total. after that wraps, we know the expectations from the white house this could go four to five hours. there are no meals planned. there may be time for snacks. then president putin will have his solo press conference first

and then president biden. they didn't want to have a joint press conference. they didn't want to elevate him to the level of what happened in helsinki with president trump several years ago. >> are we going to get a reading of these meetings, as we did not from president trump? >> we will have each individual side. the president will say here is everything i raised with president putin and how he responded. there may be a varying story from president putin when he does his readout. but they argue this comes from a position of strength that president biden can come out rather than appearing more friendly with putin side by side, he can be his own individual. the president for weeks before coming to europe has been studying meeting with experts including those who worked under the trump administration.

people may remember fiona hill people may remember from the impeachment proceedings. they say president biden will not be winging for it. he has been preparing for this for years if not his entire career. >> the white house, secretary of state are all downplaying the expectations for this meeting saying there is not going to be any deliverables. no switch will be suddenly turned on. do you think that's pretty accurate? >> i do much the biden administration has a representation for underpromising, but i think in this case it's very accurate. i think what is key in this summit is a return to normalcy. there aren't going to be these secret one-on-one meetings when even the notes of the interpreters are confiscated.

these are going to have is the kind of things that were done in the past. there will not be this weirdness done with president biden predecessor. the second thing is they don't seem to have a joint statement coming out, but i think the president is well prepared for a clear statement afterwards of what he's going to achieve and how he's going to achieve it. >> monica and chris hill, thank you both. "andrea mitchell reports" starts next. a mitchell reports" starts next with spring comes rebirth. everything begins anew. and many of us realize a fundamental human need to connect with other like-minded people. welcome back to the world.

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