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what could be his most consequential meeting of his presidency, with president putin. the president adding this monday that unlike donald trump he would stand up to the aggressive russian leader. >> he's bright, he's tough, and i have found that he is a, as they say when one used to play ball, a worthy adversary. >> president trump ended a 17-year long trade war that would suspend tariffs on things like french wines. >> it's in the overwhelming interest of the united states of america to have a great relationship with nato and eu.
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i have very different views than my predecessor did. >> and the president talked about his opposition while on the world stage. >> the leadership of the republican party is fractured and the trump wing of the party is the bulk of the party. but it makes up a significant my -- minority of the american people. >> joining me from moscow, and in geneva. michael, let's talk, first of all, about your view of what we should expect and what you think the president can achieve in the summit. >> normally, summits are places for deliverables, for win-win
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outcomes, russia, united states and even the soviet union and united states. >> all precooked. >> all precooked. this will not be a summit of deliverables. as i understand from president biden. sometimes you have to agree to disagree and air those disagreements. >> i was talking to sources that you were port of a group briefing the president. he has been preparing. we know how well he is prepared. it was you and fiona hill who was a prominent witness over
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ukraine. a large group of ten or so people trying to help the president understand putin better. i assume victoria as well of the state department. >> i shouldn't comment on that. but it is indicative he does prepare. that's a big difference from helsinki where that president didn't think he needed to prepare and that was consequential for him. i was at the last meeting the president had with putin. and tony blinken, we spent many hours getting ready for that. he understands for the big meetings you need to do big preparation. >> when he met putin as vice president, wasn't that the meeting where he said i have looked in your eyes and see you have no soul and putin said then
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we understand each other perfectly. >> there is a plus one, plus five and every now and then they like to pull aside. putin in his office had that frank exchange. it was about the occupation of georgia. >> this was before crimea. >> the president cares about georgia and ukraine. he brings a lot of experience about that, probably more than any president. >> you asked president putin about the very exchange. let me play it for you and lets ask about it on the other side. >> when president biden is asked
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whether he believes you are a killer, he said i do. mr. president, are you a killer? >> translator: i have gotten used to attacks from all kinds of angles and areas for pretexts and reasons under all kinds of fearness -- fierceness. none of it surprises me. this is an expression of u.s.cule tour. >> when i was asked that question on air, i answered it honestly. i don't think it matters in terms of the next meeting we are about to have. >> what is your take away of how putin is approaching the second meeting with joe biden? >> i think that exchange you just played underscores that inevitably this summit is about optics, about a game of diplomatic chess. the kremlin is telling me that
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president putin will fly to you tomorrow for the meeting with president biden and confirming that the meeting is set to start around lunch time there which is 7:00 a.m. eastern. just to give you a bit of insight with our interview. that schedule for the interview was moved twice and then on the day president putin was late for our interview by three hours. of course he is busy, that is inevitable. but president putin is famously late and has been late for many world leaders including president obama and president trump. a big question tomorrow is whether president putin will be on time. that will tell us something about how president putin is approaching the relationship with president biden. if he is on time, that isn't
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normal behavior, we might read into that he is trying to take a constructive approach or regards president biden as somebody he needs to take seriously or approach in a constructive and diplomatic way, but don't be surprised if he isn't on time. then for the biden administration, one of the challenges optically is how you present that. if president biden has been thinking about how to go into this and talking to the ambassador, but at the same time the russian leader doesn't start the meeting on time. >> michael, i think you might infer that's an old kgb trick to gain control over your adversary by changing the rules.
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he was so prepared. >> putin is late. i think he made secretary kerry wait five hours. he made in cabos waiting 45 minutes. from what i understand i think they have done something clever here. putin is to arrive first and greet the head of state and biden will show up second. so if putin is late, biden will not be chilling his heels. i think that's a good tactical move. >> i wanted to play more with your interview on cyber hacking and president biden's reaction. >> are you waging a cyber war against america.
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>>. where is evidence? where is proof? it's becoming farce-ical. we are accused of all kinds of things. election interference. and not one time did they bother to produce any kind of evidence or proof. >> if he chooses not to cooperate and acts in a way that he has in the past relative to cybersecurity and some other activities, then we will respond. >> i want to ask you both about that response. >> i think it's interesting to look at cyber because it is a good example of how difficult it can be to pin down president putin. for example, he goes into the room and perhaps putin says i
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want a cyber truce. a proposal was made for a reset on cyber, but in that proposal, it included a suggestion that that should have an agreement for the u.s. and russia not to meddle in each other's elections. i looked at that and thought that was fascinating and perhaps a trap for the biden administration. i thought perhaps kremlin would say we didn't meddle in your elections but we agree never to. but you have to agree not to meddle in ours. any time u.s. leaders made a comment about russian politics, you have contra intervened our
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agreement. so the deal and what the deal is and the wording entails. >> no chance they will accept that kind of deal. when we were in helsinki there was an offer to do a trade if you would turn you over to the russians. >> he loves that what about. you want to interrogate our kgb officers, we want to interrogate yours. there are not american cyber criminals attacking russia. there are russian cyber criminals attacking the united states. >> what a pleasure it is to have you here, ambassador michael mcfaul. and here in geneva there is street art depicting alexi
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navalny, a hero of our time. this area will be locked down during the summit. it is unlikely the russian president will ever see that street art in person. a lot more ahead of the critical biden summit in 24 hours. let me bring in casey hunt in washington. a lot of breaking news back home. >> indeed there is. it looks beautiful there in geneva. under pressure, new information documenting how president trump attempted to arm twist the justice department to challenge the results of the election. plus threat assessment on the qanon conspiracy theory and the people who think it is all real. d the people who think it is all real
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welcome back. new trump era e-mails show the former president pressuring his justice department to challenge the election outcome. it raised claims about election fraud in michigan that a federal judge dismissed and voting accommodations in key
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battleground stakes. this that president trump seized data from adam schiff and eric swalwell. democrats in congress have also launched their own investigations. eric swalwell was surveilled by the trump justice department. i want to ask you about these e-mails asking the doj to challenge the outcome of a legitimate election. >> it would be more surprising if they weren't sent. it was what he was doing. after the election he started to
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propagate the big lie trying to overturn the will of the american voter. we can't allow this to pass without consequences. he was not -- there was not a cancer on the presidency as was described with richard nixon. the cancer was the president and everything he so the to destroy. now it's on us. do we want this to happen again or do we want to say this is the new norm. to the attorney general, i like you are independent, but we can't for even handedness sake sweep it under the rug. there is no rug big enough for what this president has done. >> congressman, let's talk about what your party in the house is doing. the e-mails were released and
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she is requesting testimony from rosen. will you have to subpoena him to get that testimony? >> i hope know. hopefully rosen comes in and tells us what he knew. that's traditionally how it worked. donald trump is the biggest legal terrorist of them all. people have learned from him you can try and drag this out. eventually we are going to have to try to pass the protect our democracy act which i am a co-sponsor of which would fast track reform in subpoenas so you can't just wait out congress until a better congress, in your
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own mind, comes to power. >> the biden administration, justice department announced we are going to do an inspector general investigation into what happened with your records. are you satisfied with that response? >> it is an appropriate response but can't be the only response. that's why the house judiciary committee will be looking at this. barr, whitaker, sessions do not have to testify. we also want to know what did they know. this is not just about my phone or mr. schiff's phone. it is about your phone. if somebody spoke out about mr. biden or any future president, can you weaponize your justice department, or god for bid, if they learn about
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that from donald trump and put it at a state and local level. >> are you satisfied with how apple has handled your request for additional information? >> we have had discussion with apple. apple followed the law as i would expect a company to do. it was not on them to fight turning over a lawful subpoena. my concern is why was that subpoena authorized by the department of justice anyway. you can only look for information if you choose to do so. i did not leak then and have never leaked in my service in congress. this seems suspicious. with mr. schiff and my phones the only two targeted when there were others with the information, it feels politically motivated. >> thanks for being with us
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a big break today for some american consumers with a taste for french wine and other specialties. the president and european leaders today suspended a 17-year trade war to air subsidies agreeing to work together towards a common rival, china. this after it was warned that china is a military threat to the alliance. nato has been critical of beijing. joining me now is the president of the council on foreign relations and is also the author of the book "the world."
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and her book is a story of rebellion, courage and justice. richard, first to you. the nato leaders signaling a major shift when it comes to china's military might. is this just rhetoric or something that could become something real at the core of nato's mission. >> i think it's more rhetoric. nato doesn't have the capabilities to be a factor in the pacific. what nato could do is take on a large role of the european continent which could free up the united states. and the government who hats worked with us in coming up with a restrictive transfer policy. if we can agree how to deal with
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china economically, the nato members of europe play a larger role and i think that would be an ideal outcome. >> richard, i want to ask you about putin and the russians. you have had so much experience of putin, particularly under bush. >> i think the less said in public the better. there are those who criticize him for doing the meeting. i think he would like to do it. but we don't want to get into a public match with putin. the whole purpose is to settle the relationship, create something of a floor so, again, the united states can focus more on dealing with china which is a rising and more complicated threat. there is not a lot of upside here. there is a lot of potential
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downside. i think the real question is can the president signal if he were going to do things, this would be the price to pay. he doesn't want to do it. it's not in either country's benefit. i think he just wants to settle thing. >> much has been said back home about not having a joint press conference. the president said he didn't want to compete to see who was the better showman. by the way, we are on lake geneva and there are ferry fer ries. >> with putin, you will end up in the mud.
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i think transfer of miscalculation. we are not looking for fireworks. looking to calm things. joe biden wants to focus at home on his domestic agenda. the best thing is calm this down somewhat. >> thank you so much, richard haase. >> and after a touchy relationship, the possibility that turkey is going to stay behind after nato members leave and would help secure kabul. you spent many years in afghanistan. how important is that? >> it is important. but what comes next? it is important in this moment to take a step back and look at the relationship. we have moved on from the buddy
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film of the trump era. they have a clear area they will disagreet and areas they can work together, including afghanistan. >> as you know, turkey is complicated, first as a nato member, it has angered the allies by buying russian surface to air missiles. millions of syrian refugees have been displaced by syrian and asaad air strikes. how do we work through all of these complications? >> it is complicated. the united states has worked to reapportion the relationship. there are areas they can work
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together. afghanistan is one. and northwestern syria and italy is another. they may be on the opposite side of the syrian conflict, but there is way to cooperate including getting humanitarian aid in. they are seeking to work together on areas where they can while making it clear that the fact it took biden 90 days to call, the fact that the genocide was recognized under biden. >> indeed. they had a very edgy meeting when he was vice president and everyone was blaming america that sparked a coup. there is a bad personal vibe
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society. we must not only bring our federal resources to bear, we must adrop a broader societal response to attack the problem's roots. >> this comes as the biden administration rolled out the first ever national strategy to root out homegrown extremism. pete, can you explain what is and isn't new in this strategy. pete? >> it is an effort to turn up the volume on this problem. more reaching out to social media companies, more trying to counter the message. the government says it wants to engage with social media companies to get an idea of trends on social terrorism. but as the secretary said to me they are careful not to tackle
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ideology. >> we are focused on violence, the incitement of violence, drive to violence and commission of violent acts. we are wokking with the social media companies to be able to better identify the false narratives, to be able to identify disinformation and misinformation and really educate the american public. >> this is a line they are trying to walk between social media. this led up to the january 6 attack, that the government was i aware of that without getting into free speech. >> we heard from the fbi agents association. what did they have to say about it, and is there any
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consideration from the white house to changing this reality? >> their strategy is to take no position. said they are still looking at it. but a statement was put out saying -- >> so they endorse it. they say it is something the government should do. the justice department is looking at it. it's a difficult one. it is free speech to say let's tear down the government. it's not free speech to say let's blow up city hall and here is how we are going to do it. that's the difficulty for law enforcement. >> they don't seem to say whether or not the state department would designate domestic terror groups the way
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they do with international terror groups. >> they can't. there is no legal authority for that. the difficulty is this. if we say al qaeda is an organization overseas that wants to destroy the u.s., al kiya has -- al qaeda has no first amendment rights. saying that the proud booths or oath keepers or 3 percenters want to attack the u.s., that you can't do because you are attacking the ideology of expression protected under the first amendment. >> pete williams, thank you, as always for helping us understand it. coming up next, president bind takes on his rival party from overseas, something that didn't happen in the last four
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america is back, but some western allies are rattled by four years of donald trump and the polarization of the u.s. a question the president was asked last night. >> the leaders i am dealing with in nato and g7 are leaders who know our recent history, know generically the character of the american people and know where the vast center of the public stands. i think it is a shock and surprise that what's happened in terms of consequence of president trump's phony popalism has happened. >> joining me is peter baker, michael steele and casey hunt.
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peter, in your experience, other than donald trump, do american presidents talk about their political opponents while they are overseas getting ready for a summit? >> not a lot. that was an old-fashioned rule that went by the wayside the last four years. presidents historically focus on their international policies and do not bring their domestic rivalries into the fray. but president biden is trying to reestablish relationships with allies. but you are right, these days there is no real edge, no border, no boundary between domestic and international politics. it follows the president wherever he goes and he brings it with him. >> and michael, between president trump's role on january 6, republicans are
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questioning the election and all of these states passing discriminatory voting restrictions. is it a surprise that our allies would be surprised whether the trump dominated party will get back in power, or at mid terms or even trump being re-elected. >> they are concerned. republicans, certainly donald trump candidacy, could emerge in 2024. and we have a party that has taken a course that is anti-democratic in many respects. when you look at it, there is concern about what does the two-party system in america look like if one of the parties is diverging off what has been the stated goals and aspirations of the nato alliance, the g7 and
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our individual relationships with countries like germany and great britain. so there is that beneath the surface. what peter's point, what biden brings to the conversation, is a sense of let me tell you, we're not going to worry about 2024 yet. we're going to focus on what we need to do right now to shore up this alliance and reimagine what we need to do whether it's on issues like covid, which is the big initiative now to get the vaccine done globally or on other issues relative to russia and china. so, i think that there is some comfort that they take from biden, even though beneath that surface, there's a concern about how a political race may turn out in 2022, meaning giving the house back to republicans and what that may say about the alliance when they get into 2024. >> you know, kasie, it really
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strikes me joe biden's instincts to be bipartisan some in his party think too much covering him on the hill as i used to as a senator he was always working across the aisle and it seems as though this is kind of an indication that his skin might be a little thinner on this subject after infrastructure that you have been covering so intensely. >> andrea, it was, i think, a little bit surprising to me that he did go as far as he did in talking about republicans when he was on foreign soil despite, of course, the fact that, yes, president trump broke that norm when he was in office over and over again. but, you know, i also think that one of the things that he tried to focus on in his remarks, especially considering the timing of the putin meeting and how that is being set up is that, you know, vladimir putin spent 2016 trying to sew descent among the american public.
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and biden, i think, knows president biden knows that unity at home is going to ultimately lead to increased national security abroad. and pushing that idea forward, i think, was part of the calculus there. i think republicans back at home, i mean, some who grumbled and criticized him for doing that but i think behind the scenes privately they'll admit what he said is actually true. they are divided. you're right, i think the way in which congress has changed since joe biden was a member, we've talked about it during the campaign and he has put an awful lot of faith in the idea of bipartisanship and he has continued to say that that is what he wants to do, but the reality is rapidly becoming clear especially as he's overseas and now the left wind of his party here at home seems to be trying to essentially scuttle the bipartisan talks. that frustration is kind of exploded. as his attention has been else
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where. >> we know exactly, i think your take is exactly right. worldwide exclusive with vladimir putin. keir asked the russian president about his treatment and then pivoted to january 6th, which is what we might anticipate could happen tomorrow, as well. let's listen. >> do you know 450 individuals were arrested after entering the congress and they didn't go there to steal a laptop. they came with political demands. 450 people had been detained. they're looking at jailtime between 15 and 25 years. and they came to the congress with political demands. isn't that persecution for political opinions? >> so, peter, you moscow bureau chief for "new york times." that's classic putin. >> it is classic putin.
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this goes back to soviet days. any time they are criticized for any abuse of human rights at home, any violation of norms, they simply try to play the, you know, both sides card or what about. what about the americans? you gus did this, you guys did that. we heard it in moscow for four years repeatedly. it is classic way of trying to deflect and nevermind that theal nalgies are almost never comparable. arresting 400 people who violently assault the capitol is not the same thing as putting in prison a nonviolent dissident who simply embarrasses you and calls for your opposition. these are not the same things. they're not comparable. in the russian scheme of thing, this is always the answer to any criticism of their domestic suppression of decent. >> after comparisons to house mask mandates to the way people were treated in the holocaust.
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republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene visited the holocaust museum yesterday and then apologized for the comments on masks but stood by her comments comparing democrats. >> well, yeah. yeah, what else are you going to expect from her, right. probably enough conversation with kevin mccarthy and a few others to go, look, can you just go do the bare minimum. you show up at the holocaust museum and you don't do the maximum which is the rest of it. and that's, you know, where you get the, well, i'm not going to back off of the fact that democrats are nazis. so, this is what we expect in the land of marjorie taylor greene. >> peter baker, michael steele,
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