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president biden, russian president vladimir putin. good morning to you. i'm hallie jackson contining our special coverage. we cover this summit in switzerland. set to enter hour five as we speak. we know the stakes are high. we know the expectations are low, frankly, at least the public ones from the white house. our nbc news team with more reporting this morning on the ground where this summit is happening. we are expecting in the next little bit here a couple of news conferences. we do not know specifically when. it depends on what's going on inside the building you see on the left side of the screen. president putin speaks to reporters first. president biden after that will speak to reporters second. we think that will happen roughly sometime maybe in the next hour or two, since this whole thing was expected to go five hours. and that getting into where we are this hour. after that, of course, both leaders get on their planes and head home to try to sell this

summit to their citizens in very different ways. >> indeed. with our special coverage this hour, nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli joins us from geneva. he is at the summit site. mike, in listening to what has been said so far by the white house, they are planning to come out and talk about the fact that president biden was tough. how do they handle the possibility that vladimir putin will come out and say, we've got a stable, reliable relationship going forward when possibly they don't? quite likely, they don't have what they want to achieve in an ideal world in terms of any kind admission from him on cyber, on some of the other issues, human rights issues, as well as, of course, ukraine and navalny. you can make a long list of things president putin denieds.

>> reporter: one of the thing iz -- things i heard is something they said during the campaign, they see the president as a game dayperformer. regardless what putin may say as soon as the summit wraps up, that he can come out and clearly and directly lay out what in their view is the truth about what happened. obviously, during the campaign, the president was responding to misinformation coming from his republican rival. this is something they have a lot of experience at. you talked about tony blinken, somebody at the president's side for decades. he was at the meeting ten years ago when then vice president biden met with prime minister putin. some of the others in the room over the course of the summits haven't seen him operate on the world stage as much. they talked about how much they enjoyed watching him operate in this capacity.

there's a real trust in him to get this done. what vladimir putin also thrives in, instability, unpredictability, so they have to be on their toes and be ready to clear up any misconceptions, as we have seen, an effort to try to dampen the idea the president was nodding in agreement at the idea he trusts vladimir putin. these press conferences are significant moments for both sides. the president and white house making the decision that they would rather have the final word here to potentially clean things up if they need to be rather than set an initial impression and have vladimir putin come out and contradict it. >> mike, thank you. we may see action in the next little bit. we are joined by our senior international correspondent keir simmons and evelyn parkus.

it's great to have you with us. as you can see, our show of force here on summit day. it's happening as we speak. keir, let me get the view from moscow. interestingly, we don't have -- let's be candid. we know the timing of when the meetings began and ended. we don't know what they are talking about inside the room. russian media is trying to analyze what they can. getting into the nitty-gritty, not just on timing, with tickers up on state tv, but looking at ith a -- atbottles. it's a sign of people are looking at this thing. >> reporter: russian state tv moved from the timer to covering the soccer game between russia

and finland. russia winning 1-0. a bunch of pool reporters with the russians frustrated that they haven't been able to watch that game, even while waiting for president putin. we have been watching the reporters, the russian journalists moving to the tented area, ready for the news conference with president putin. that's coming down the line. they are getting ready for that. another reflection -- you are talking about the television echo chamber. we have been watching russian television commenting on msnbc and whether president biden was late for president putin. speculation and conversation while we wait for the news. as we have mentioned through the morning, the russians have been signaling they were ready to come to an agreement over the ambassadors going back to washington and moscow.

they wanted to talk about arms control. another thing from the russian media, by the way -- i think this is interesting to ask folks there that you have with you, is russian television interested in the fact that victoria newland, the under secretary of state is in the negotiations on the u.s. side. she's someone who for the russians is controversial. there was a famous phone call over ukraine that was leaked. i wonder what our experts think about what kind of messaging the u.s. is trying to give to have her there as part of the negotiations, if at any all. as you say, it's speculation. you will say one thing, i don't think that we can judge these coming news conferences as the end of the conversation. the conversation never ends with president putin. you will agree to negotiate. you agree on deals. he will threaten again, maybe attack again if he thinks he can get away with it with this

hybrid warfare type of approach. you have to expect that in the years ahead. >> let me bring in mike memoli who is with us. i'm sorry, but there's a signal now as we are -- we are following every twist and turn. you have seen the white house -- the reporters with president biden walk into the area where you are, perhaps a suggestion that we are getting close to the end of the second round of talks? what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. about four hours ago was when we saw the two presidents arrive to the villa a little bit away, a five-minute walk from where i'm standing. the protected pool, they stay as close as possible to the president so they can be pulled in or out as is needed to capture any moments that are necessary. just as we were talking -- you may have seen me waving at the camera to get your attention. i saw that 13 member press pool come to where we are, which is just a few feet away from where

the press conference will be. that would be a suggestion that they are wrapping up on site and trying to get ready, have everybody in place for the news conference, the dueling back-to-back news conferences later today. >> peter bakker, let's talk about the decision to have the solo press conferences. again, to hear from putin first, likely next hour, if it's wrapping up, and then president biden shortly after. what is the advantage, disadvantage? in my recollection, there have been solo press conferences before. >> yeah, there have been. the tradition in more recent years is jointly to signal that there's a partnership of sorts. obviously, that's a signal bide biden didn't want to sent. president biden is trying to straddle the line.

he abandoned the policy that president obama put in after the invasion of ukraine when obama tried to isolate putin, refused to meet with him. kicked him out of the g8. he is trying to balance against what president trump did, treat him with respect, praise him and so forth. biden is trying to be in the middle. the press conferences will be a way to set the narrative. he does go last. he will be able to correct any impressions that putin left that biden doesn't agree with. he will get on the plane and go home and try to sell it to the american public. it's a real interesting moment for him. the highest stakes in terms of international affairs since he became president. >> we are looking on the left side of your screen at a room indoors. that's where we expect to see russian president putin hold his solo news conference. there's no indication that it's

imminent. somebody who has been in these rooms, this is what it looks like. however, given what we heard in the reporting from mike memoli, there is a suggestion that perhaps -- perhaps these two leaders are getting close to wrapping this expanded bigger group meeting in geneva that has been going on by my count for about an hour and 12 minutes, if they started exactly at 10:00 a.m. eastern time, as we shall told. we will keep an eye on this. we will bring it to you live. there will be translation. we will -- vladimir putin will speak in russian. we will translate that into english. let's talk about your perspective, evelyn. you believe russia's reckless behavior is accelerating and has to be stopped. you said president biden can try to establish deterrents by spelling out consequences if putin doesn't stop. how does he do that in an effective way? explain how you think that would be strategic in the larger group

setting with the russian delegation and the u.s. delegation this one place. >> actually, hallie, it's interesting, because i have been in rooms like this, including with president biden when he was vice president and many rooms with ambassador nuland, who is an old russia hand. she's an experienced russia hand. i think having her there, having the general in the room, these are all people who need to hear what president biden is going to say or is saying or has said to president putin. they also need to hear the warning. while president putin is the man at the top, we know from our understanding of how the kremlin operates, he does take counsel of these people around him. it's important that they all understand there are no rules of the road for the cyber operations, whether they are conducted by the information agencies, the russian

intelligence agent. or whether it's these cyberattackers, these hackers who come in and take our information hostage and hold our companies hostage that way. these are all things where there are no rules of the road the way we have rules for the use of conventional force and nuclear force. we need some really clear conversation so they understand how the united states and its people would regard ongoing attacks like this. >> evelyn, could i follow up? it's andrea mitchell in geneva. in terms of cyber, you know, how -- what does president biden do at a news conference if putin comes out and says they are not responsible for solarwinds, the

ransomware attacks? he has to set the record straight. any semblance of progress from the summit will be seriously derailed. >> well, andrea, it's a good question. obviously, i'm sure it's on the mind of his team right now. the reality is that progress is not -- it shouldn't be measured in whether we agree with them or they agree with us. i think the real progress, unfortunately, is that vladimir putin gets the message, he goes home and he changes to some extent how he is executing this aggressive foreign policy. progress actually can't be measured in that press conference. it's going to happen in the weeks and months after today. right? in the press conference, i agree, he will have to set the record straight. he will have to mention all the intelligence reports, all the allies, what the russians have said, what independent actors have identified in terms of the

cyberattacks. he may have to go a little down that road. i think the main point will be to establish the fact that russia has been a dangerous actor. we are trying to act responsibly to deescalate the situation. >> peter, let me talk with you about the way that the white house has downplayed the idea of concrete deliverables coming out of the meeting. that's not the expectation that they have said and others have talked about. however, there are a couple of areas where they might find cooperation, specifically arms control, as is the hope of two families in this country, a discussion about the release of two americans, two u.s. citizens, both former marines being held in a russian prison under the pretext of what the u.s. has called a sham trial, convicted on these what they call preposterous charges. we have heard now from i believe both these men pleading with

president biden effectively to bring this up. peter, i'm being told the meeting has ended. this summit is over. 11:05. i'm looking at notes here. 11:05 is when the expanded bilateral meeting ended. it lasted roughly an hour five minutes. let's explain what happened this morning. we saw president biden and president putin in the smaller group meeting along with the secretary of state and along with the russian foreign minister meet for an hour and 33 minutes. the second part of it, the broader, expanded bilateral as it's called ended about 12 minutes ago, 11:05. mike memoli, let me bring you in. peter, i want to go back to you as well. mike, this is when things start to get going. we expected this to be roughly five hours. it was a little less than that. it was within the range. at this point, we will see president biden get into his vehicle. he goes to the press conference that he will do after president putin does his.

>> that's right. there's an area where most of the press have their filing center. there's an area for the staff. we presume the president has an area he can reflect, take in -- i'm sure he is going to be interested to watch president putin's press conference and huddle with his advisors about just the kind of message they want to send afterwards. it's interesting in terms of the expectations game. we saw both the presidents arrive just after 7:00 a.m. eastern time. now it's just after 11:00 a.m. with a small break in between, that smaller two on two session and the larger meeting. that suggests this was on the under of that. moving into -- we have seen members of the russian press corps at a different site take takeing their seats.

a meeting that the president -- we should remind everybody, he was the one who initiated this. when he phoned vladimir putin in april to announce a range of sanctions that they were imposing on russia in response to some of the cyber activities, he told the russian president he felt those actions were proportionate to russia's actions, but that he reserved the right to go beyond them. he invited the russian president to a face-to-face meeting. that's the backdrop to what we are seeing now. does the president feel like he has had enough in terms of assurance from vladimir putin today or a building of a relationship in which they can move forward where he would then decide what next steps in terms of our own sanctions posture with russia.

>> andandrea, to you. >> the point -- the obvious point, i think, is that they only met with the larger group for in your count a little over an hour. there were so many issues to be raised in that meeting. i don't see how anything substantively could have been addressed other than just going around the room once, if you divide it up. unless some other meeting is being scheduled or something that we don't know about at this time, clearly, they did not get through the long list of what the president had planned to raise, unless it was ra raised the smaller group. >> there was translation that was happening as well. right? that eats up some of the time when it comes to the content. andrea, we are fortunate to have you there live in geneva. you have to handle other obligations. we will let you do that. peter, put a thought on this here as we enter the next phase

of the summit. it has concluded after roughly 90 minutes of the smaller meeting, an hour plus of the larger meeting. analysts, peter, prior to this -- we talked about it on the air here, for example, yesterday, said this could go hours later than scheduled. it could go six, seven, longer. here we are on the low end of where the expectation was. what do you read into that? >> i think you are right. you are right to point out the translation means it was less time talking. we have seen these are two leaders who are known for filibustering. both of these guys can talk and talk and talk. the fact that these meetings were concise means they probably went through the talking points, each walked in with certain points they intended to make. it doesn't mean they hashed through the issues. this was -- it suggests that they used their meeting to lay the groundwork for where the

relationship is going to go from here and set the tone for future conversations about the governments. it's possible those secretaries of state and foreign ministers in the room that they say, let's have these guys meet in a later format to discuss these things in more depth. what vladimir putin wants is to be taken seriously, seen as a peer of the united states president, to be an important actor. he was shunned after the invasion of ukraine in 2014. now he is back on the biggest stage possible. what president biden wanted was to basically keep president putin and keep russia from becoming a huge distraction from him by continuing provocations, which we have seen in these last weeks and months, through cyber and other episodes. these are minimal expectations. we are not sure they met those. there weren't going to be big deliverables out of this meeting. >> let me be transparent with

you and our viewers. i want to be clear, we know that second biden and putin meeting ended. we don't know what's happening as we speak. there might be something added to the schedule. we think based on the guidance we received that the next thing that's going to pop up is the room where you saw the rush shap -- russian media and president putin holding his news conference. this could take twists and turns as that shot just went down. i want to bring in somebody standing by to react to what we are seeing live in this moment. we will keep these live shots up. senator shaheen from new hampshire, a member of the senate foreign relations committee. good morning. thank you for being on the program here. your reaction? peter, mike and i were talking

about, the second larger meeting lasting a tick over an hour, including translation, given the long list of items both sides brought to the table here. >> i think peter was correct. the expectation that anything really substantive would come out of this initial meeting was just not realistic. this was an initial meeting for the president to face to face with vladimir putin, point out some of the concerns that the united states has about russia's actions. he came into this summit with maximum support from our allies, from our nato allies, from his trip to britain, from the eu. putin came in with nothing, with the suggestion that maybe russia and china will do something together in the future. he was in a very strong position. i think it was important for him to be face to face with vladimir putin and to be clear that the

united states is going to try to hold russia accountable in the future. >> you have written this op-ed that's out new this morning warning against what you are describing here, which is president putin what you describe as expanding influence in the region, calling it a wake-up call for the west. what is your expectation for the message you want president biden to be delivering on that front, specifically as it comes to as you talk about russian activity in the black sea, for example, that could signal perhaps more action against ukraine at a moment when the world is watching other things? >> we know that putin continues to try and influence what's happening in ukraine. his action in belarus and support of the hijacking of the ryanair jet and crackdown. his occupation of provinces in the country of georgia. all of that speaks to his efforts to try and extend

russia's influence in eastern europe. it's important for us to both do everything we can to support those countries, ukraine and georgia, and let them know their looking to the west is important and we will support those efforts. also to try and prevent any future actions that putin might think about taking in the black sea or in the baltics and other areas of eastern europe. he needs to understand that we are watching very closely. despite the fact that we're going into the summer, we're paying close attention to what's going on. >> there's also -- senator, we are getting information in literately as we speak. i have the computer and the phone and everything else looking for reporting here coming in from sources. a white house official confirms the summit is over. we are moving into the next phase. we weren't sure what was happening here. i want to clarify that point for

folks here. senator, there's another issue that has come up that is very emotional for some folks here in the united states. that is the russian holding, essentially, of two u.s. citizens. this is a topic we have been covering extensively here, because the u.s. decried the fact that these two men have been held for nearly two years in a russian prison, convicted on what they call sham charges. this is something the secretary of state said would come up as some point in the discussions here this morning. what is your hope? what is your expectation, more importantly, for any progress on that front for the release of these two men? >> first of all, i think we have to remember that diplomacy is usually not fast. we have to be consistent in our messages to russia and the international community and we have to be persistent. we have to keep at the issues. that goes for the two men who are being held captive in russia.

we have to continue to speak up on the international stage that this is not the way civilized nations behave, to have putin arrest people and then try and do a prisoner exchange for people who have really engaged in criminal behavior in the united states. these are two members of the military, former military who we think are being arrested just as an effort to use them as pawns in putin's potential exchanges. we've got to be persistent in continuing to raise those issues and letting vladimir putin know where our red lines are, letting him know that we are not going to let this go. they are being held in prison inappropriately. we are going try and continue to make an issue of this until they are released. >> democratic senator shaheen, thanks for being with us.

a lot to talk about. that new op-ed out from you this morning. we are not taking our eyes off of what's happening. the door i think is opening. my monitor is small. it looks like we are seeing action here. if we can pull that up, wide screen. president biden walking out. we know the summit ended. it has because here comes the president. let's listen for a second. biden saying something that to my ear was inaudible, responding to as we know that small group of what's called u.s. pool reporters that's standing outside that villa where the summit was. the president now in his motorcade getting ready to head not too far. he is staying on the grounds for his news conference, which will happen after president putin conducts his own interaction

with reporters in a room we will show you in a second. we watch president biden pulling away. the summit officially over. his first face-to-face talks, two meetings between president biden and russian president vladimir putin on the shores of the lake in geneva, switzerland. they are moving slow. not going far. we will try to get clarity on what specifically president biden said to reporters in that moment. tough to hear. there are reporters who were with him that can shed light on that. i believe monica alba or mike memoli, keir simmons joining us. let's reset for a second. we had 93 minutes of president biden, president putin, the foreign minister, the secretary of state talking. there was a 45-minute break. when the u.s. and russian side debriefed other aides what to expect for larger meeting. the larger group meeting began

90 minutes ago at the top of the 10:00 hour and ended about 25 minutes ago. you saw at 11:30 eastern time, president biden walk out. he is getting ready for his news conference as president putin is getting ready for his. keir simmons has been tracking what's happen on the putin side. another live shot. talk to us about what you are hearing. i understand you have news. >> reporter: that's right. it's limited news, just to make clear about what i'm hearing. to state the obvious, i'm outside the kremlin. we do have a producer with the russian journalists there. what she is telling us is that the talk with the russian journalists is that this summit is shorter than they had expected. that perhaps is not a surprise. i will tell you why. because before the summit took

place, we did hear from an official russian news agency that president putin's spokesman was expecting this summit to go on four to five hours. i want to quote for you what he said prior to the summit. this is what he was saying prior to the summit. he was saying, no one is setting any time limits on the presidents. this is their choice. the agenda is so vast that it will be extremely difficult to cover it in four or five hours of talks. that's kind of a right-hand man to president putin prior to the summit saying, we can't get through all this in four or five hours. now we are having -- seeing this summit finishing way before for or four hours. the big question is, has this

been cut short or is there some implication from it? on russian television there was a timer to say how long the sum hit been going for. we notice that president putin turned up on time. that was a small victory for the biden team. then you had russian tv timing out the summit almost implying to say, the longer this goes on for, the more successful it is for president putin. i'm going to be fascinated to hear what happened in that room, why this summit appears to be shorter than the russians were saying it might be or would be or should be. whether there are optics here -- i don't want to go too far with this. there's detail important in the summit and there are the optics. is there something happening here, that message being sent with this being shorter than the

rus -- russians were saying. mike memoli is standing by in a different location, an outdoor one on this property. monica alba is with us as well. mike, do you have eyes on president biden or anything your camera can show us? >> reporter: no. you can't, unfortunately, see it. i saw just a few minutes ago as you were talking to keir, the beast with the u.s. flag and the swiss flag up front, just driving to the location where we are now, which is just a few -- literally 100 feet from where the news conference is scheduled to take place. i heard them doing a mike check. the race is on. the president of russia will be

coming out, having that initial news conference, followed shortly after by president biden. i think as we have been trying to discern what it might mean that this meeting was less than the amount of time we expected it to take place, initially, even the expectation the white house was acknowledging of four to five hours, i am thinking of an event i covered when biden left the vice presidency, he was a private citizen about a year and a half before he would announce his candidacy to run for president. it was at the council of foreign relations. he laid out what he would be doing if he were president at that time. i'm thinking of that now. part of what the now president, then private citizen biden was saying, it would be important to have an all of government evaluation of russia, the threat it poses, its activities as best as he could get information from all aspects. then have a face-to-face meeting

in which he would lay out a message privately to vladimir putin. and then wait to see how putin would respond. think about that. that's what joe biden was saying three years ago he would do if he were president. he is now president. we may be seeing that plan being executed. that might explain why it's less than expected, because if you wanted to actually have substantive results, lay out the range of issues and expect to see back and forth that might lead to a result, it would be a longer meeting. a shorter meeting is when a president, lays out the stakes and then they expand the group to lay out more issues, so that's sort of -- my frame of mind here as we are trying to learn about why this might be less than expected. >> what might -- based on your experience covering president biden, i imagine at this point the president is getting holed

up to watch and see what president putin has to say, debriefing with his team but looking closely at whatever we will hear from president -- he will get the first word coming out of this meeting. >> that's right. there's a communication strategy. what are the talking appointments they want the president to hit on? trying to anticipate what the questions will be from reporters. that's a part of the preparation that's happening right now. really, what biden is surely doing is now asking -- he wants to take the temperature of everyone else in the room, most of all tony blinken who has been at his side, part of the meeting ten years ago when he was vice president and putin was prime minister. what were their reactions to what they saw as they sort of try to take stock of the moment? then they will watch as closely as we all are what vladimir putin has to say. from the campaign, i remember how they didn't -- the biden

campaign weren't a fan of twitter. they thought there was often a misconception. the framing of the race, the stakes, the issues was never what they felt the broader public represented. they used twitter for rapid response. how are they going to be engaging? might we see -- >> live tweeting putin. >> i would guess that may be not the case. the philosophy is the same. you want to respond as quickly as possible. they know, even if they did a joint press conference together, which was very low in terms of expectations, that vladimir putin would still try to frame this on his own terms down the road. this is an interesting arrangement that they have now have where they can have the president come out and directly use his own message, speak

directly and respond if he feels the president of russia, he misrepresented that conversation at all. >> typically, as it works on the american side, the white house will offer what's called this two minute warning. we know when we are getting close to when president biden will speak. we don't know if we will get that for president putin. that's the next phase, to hear specifically what president putin is taking away from this summit and why it went, frankly, shorter than what the expectation was, what can be read into that, what the significant is of that. he will walk in through the doors in the seats in front of him, members brought in on the russia side, members of the media. obviously, u.s. outlets have presence and representation in that room, including nbc news. you can see dozens of reporters lined up there. monica, let me bring you into the conversation. i know we have a number of reporters and analysts ready for us as we begin this next part of

the coverage. the expectation was four to five hours. our research team has run the numbers. three hour and 20 minutes was the total talk time for both the smaller group meeting and the larger group meeting. it's not to the expectation it was. as we keep remiepreminding folkt does include translation as well. i know the white house is tight lipped at this point. what your assessment of where it goes next. >> reporter: here is one of the most interesting tells, the daily guidance that came out last night that gave us a rough idea how today was go going. in the white house's view, they believed this more expanded bilateral session was going to be split into two sections. they expected it to be actually the longer meeting and one that would necessitate a break in between. now we know that's not what happened. they only took about an hour and change to wrap that up. i think that is something that really is quite notable here,

given that they would expect the meeting and the session that had more than a dozen people in it to take more time naturally than the one that only had president putin, biden and the foreign minister and secretary of state blinken. that was more than an hour and a half. the second was an hour. they took about a 45-minute break between those two sessions. that's why if we talk about the total run time of the actual face-to-face, we are in the three-hour ballpark. the white house was preparing for four to five hours if not longer. some thought it could stretch into the night. depending how long president putin goes, president biden could be speak agent the sun is setting. clearly, that's not the case. things are running early. the major question in my mind is, did the white house feel like they got all the way down their list, not just of items the president wanted to confront

putin on, but on some of the areas of cooperation as well. we expected that was going to take up a lot more of the expanded bilateral session. if they only spent an hour with your point about translation, it's hard to see that they could really dive into these issues of arms control, of climate change, of containing iran's nuclear ambitions, humanitarian aide to syrians. those are thorny issues. to think that could have been covered in these meeting in a little over three hours i think is difficult. the critical thing will be president putin will get the first word, his interpretation of how discussions went. the americans are very pleased that president biden is going to get the last word when he takes questions from our colleagues a short time from now. >> look at this shot. i'm going to pull it up full. these are members of the russian delegation in the room for the expanded discussion. that bigger meeting.

that's the foreign minister. you can see him sitting there along with other key aides to russian president vladimir putin. reading the tea leaves -- we don't know for sure. this would signal this this putin presser is set to begin literally any second. when you have top officials like the foreign minister walking into a room, they're not going to hang out for five hours while they wait. we are getting very close at this point. we are going to bring this news conference to you live. it will be translated into english. it will be newsy. it will make headlines. after that, of course, as we have been talking about president biden will speak. we will bring that to you live as well. i want to bring in -- as we wait for this discussion, in addition to mike and monica and the rest of our team who has been covering this capably -- we see a wider shot from the pool who is in the room for russian side. professor the international affairs and associate dean at the new school and senior fellow of the world policy institute.

the great daughter of khrushchev. thanks for being with us. your first thoughts as the summit concluded after 3 1/2 hours, roughly, of talk time, if you will, as we tee up to the news conferences. >> thank you very much. i was actually listening to your discussion that it went -- they said it would go longer, but it didn't. on the russian side, they were saying that including the break, it would take four to five hours. including the break, it did four hours. maybe we shouldn't be reading that much into this. >> okay. >> of course, with translation, probably the american side would have long laundry list. i don't know if it all fell into putin's lap. i think something that we clearly have -- the summit happened. that's something we should celebrate.

originally, both sides were saying this is an achievement that they are going to look into each other's eyes, at least figure out how much they are expect from each other in terms of either bad behavior or good behavior. i assume that something like that happened. this whole giant line of russian men sitting there, of different capacity, somebody who works in ukraine, somebody who works in syria, somebody who works on the military and so on. you can see them. obviously, there was a conversation. how far that will go, that will be interesting to hear both from putin and later from president biden. >> we know that both sides, both president biden and putin agreed the relationship between russia and the u.s. is at its lowest point in years. i think you are coming to us live from moscow. >> i'm from moscow. >> good. i wonder, given your vantage

point, how are everyday russians on the ground, how are they looking at this in the context of their president meeting with the u.s. president? >> they have been expecting it. they have been many conversation about this for a long time. joe biden agreed putin is a killer. putin asked him to debate that point and other points in front of the tv audience. there was a back and forth. it has been expected. in this sense -- the excitement but not much excitement. what they are waiting to see, did putin show him or did putin take a knee or how that -- i guess it's a different connotation. did putin bow to biden? how it's going to play out between the two sides. if you see once again, there's a great shot. these are all macho men. putin is a macho men. we saw it in the library, when

joe biden was sitting in a more, i would say, appropriate manner and vladimir putin was sitting as a macho man. i think for them would be interesting to see who got him first and whether putin now with the press conference and then biden's press conference, whatever they say, how putin has measured up to this low point of the russian and american relations. is it going to get better? how russia will continue to deal with the united states. >> nina, we are looking live at vladimir putin leaving the site of the two discussions that wrapped up a little -- maybe an hour and a half ago or 40 minutes ago, i should say. president putin is making the walk presumably to the site where he will hold his news conference. listening in, because it sounded like reporters were trying to

shout questions. that's not something that putin responded to, that we have seen, in those instances when we have seen him live at various points throughout the morning here. he will obviously be getting questions when he walks into that room. to set the scene for folks who are not like me, like many of us, familiar with the geography here, this is all happening on the same grounds, this is a small space. if putin is heading directly to this news conference, is this -- let's listen in. we are waiting on the translation of vladimir putin walking into that news conference. we should be able to hear that in english. i believe we are working to get

that audio up. first question to one of the reporters in the room. >> translator: in moscow, we have reached agreement that this issue will be resolved. will be returning to service, permanent service that -- specifically the day after tomorrow. that's a mere technical issue. we reached an agreement ed amin

reach an agreement. there are many things that remain to be resolved. both resolved on both sides, including the americans are geared towards finding a solution towards ukraine. yes, the issue was discussed. i can't say it was discussed in detail. but president biden believes the basis for a settlement in ukraine, the basis needs to be the minsk agreement. as for entry by ukraine into nato, this issue was broached. that remains to be discussed. that is in general.

>> mr. putin said one of the topics was on will talks between russia and the u.s. regarding the star three tribute. have you planned talks on extension or perimeters or there are new agreements to be signed? >> the united states and russian federation have particular responsibility with regard to stability in the world. that's because we are the two largest nuclear powers and have the largest stockpiles of

warheads and delivery systems based on the levels and quality of nuclear weapons. we acknowledge this responsibility. i think it's clear for everyone the fact that president biden has taken on responsibility and has taken the decision, which we believe is quite timely, to extend the treaty for five years up to 2024. the question remains what happens next. we have reached an agreement that consultation will be reached at the interstate level. colleagues at the working level will set out the composition of the delegations and the place they will be working and how frequently the meetings will take place. please, let's give the floor to a foreign journalist, cnn.

>> -- hostile or was it friendly. and secondly, throughout these conversations, did you commit to ceasing cyber attacks and commit to stop with ukraine? >> as for the first general appraise al, i think there was no hostility. quite the contrary. our meeting took place, principlely speaking, we don't share the same positions in many areas, but i think both sides showed a willingness to understand one another and to

find ways to bring opposition together. the talks were quite constructive. as for cybersecurity, we reached an agreement. chiefly that we will start negotiations on that. i think that's extremely important. now as for who needs to take on any sort of commitment, i would like to inform you of something -- i'm talking about something that's already well-known but not known to the broad public, not from american sources. i am afraid i will confusion american sources, but they said most of the cyber attacks in the world are carried out from the cyber realm of the united states. second place is canada. afterwards is latin america

countries, then great britain. where is russia on this list? we are a country cyber territory has the most -- russia is not on the list, number one. secondly, we received from the united states ten requests regarding cyber attacks on attacks in the united states. as our colleagues have told us, they are from the cyber realm of russia. and there were two requests this year, both last year and this year our colleagues have received exhaust i have responses. for our part last year russia sent to the state structure of the u.s. over 40, and 35 this

year and we haven't received a single response on that front. this says we do have something to work on. and the question of who, to what degree needs to take on responsibility. that should be resolved during the negotiation process. we are going to start consultations. what we think is that when it comes to cybersecurity, cybersecurity is incredibly important in the world in general and specifically for the united nations and also important for russia. for example, we know there were cyber attacks on a pipeline company in the united states. we know the company was compelled to pay $5 million to these blackmailers. some of the money has already been returned according to my sources. but some has not been returned.

russia is encountering the same threats. for example, when it comes to the health care system of one of the big regions of the federation and we see this work is being coordinated from cyber realm of the united states, i don't think that the official have any interest in such type manipulations. but i think throwing out these insinuations at an expert level, that's inappropriate. we should sit and start working. that's in the interest of the united states and russian federation. in principle we have reached agreement. let's doing it. let's continue.

please give the mega phone -- was some of the question not answered? >> to stop threatening the ukraine, the reason the summit was called, or the timing of it was because of russia building up forces. the third part of the question was did you commit to stopping your crackdown to the opposition groups inside russia, alexi navalny. >> i didn't hear that part of the question. maybe it wasn't interpreted or maybe you decided to ask a second question. let's turn to commitments over the ukraine. only one commitment, promoting the minsk agreement. if we decide to do it, we will

do it without doubt. back in november of last year, the ukranian delegation submitted their documents how they plan to implement. take a look. it is not a secret document. primarily, political -- into the legal system and constitution. there will be a constitutional amendment, number one. number two, the border between the russian federation and ukraine will be occupied by the border forces of ukraine on the day after the election. what did ukraine propose as a first step? the armed forces of ukraine to their place -- what does it

mean? it means that ukrainian forces should go there. the second thing they propose is closing the border between russia and ukraine. and third, elections should be held in three months after these two steps are taken. you don't need to be an attorney, have a special education, to know that has nothing to do with the minsk agreements. what additional commitments could russia shoulder, i think everything is understandable. just like the united states carries out exercises on their territory, we are carrying out exercises. we didn't carry out exercises bringing our equipment to the