good day this is andrea mitchell reports. i'm kasie hunt and for andrea. we are following the huge breaking news in washington. obamacare surviving a third major challenge since it became law a decade ago. this time a 7 to 2 opinion with conservative samuel alito and neil gorsuch opposing the majority opinion that was written by stephen breyer. moments ago president biden reacting to the decision in a tweet. calling it a big win for the american people. and that is not all. another major ruling today. the unanimous decision in favor of catholic social services in their lawsuit against the city of philadelphia. a case involving foster care services and same-sex couples. what the justices stopping short of sitting in a nationwide principal for you to religious exemption cases. joining me not to help break it all down. justice correspondent pete williams. just waterman at the white house. jim a seam of the former deputy chief of staff to president obama. dr. zeke emanuel former white

house health policy advisor and the chief architect of the affordable care act. and civil rights attorney david henderson. pete, we will start with obama care. let's hit on a key piece of this majority opinion. here is a quick expert exempt from justice breyer who wrote we begin with the two individual plaintiffs, the problem lies in the fact that the statutory provision, while it tells them to obtain coverage, has no means of enforcement. with the penalty, that is the mandate penalty zero out, the irs can no longer seek a penalty for not one who fails to comply. so pete, talk us through this decision. of course the landmark case we have been waiting for. >> is a big decision for obamacare. i am not sure i would call it a landmark. only because the court took a pass on answering the fundamental question at the center of the case. which is was the individual mandate as it now stands unconstitutional. what the court says is come interesting question but you

are the wrong people to raise it. you have no stake in this fight. these 18 red states that challenged obamacare. so originally the question was, is a constitutional individual mandate the requirement that you have to buy insurance or pay a penalty unconstitutional? originally the supreme court says yes it is a legitimate use of the taxing authority. so the republican congress came along and said we will set the text at zero and the red states food and fit now you cannot say it is a legitimate use of the taxing authority. but what the supreme court said today is well, there is nothing now to really challenge. there is no way to get a grip on this if there is no penalty. what are you arguing about? how does this hurt you if it is no skin off your nose that obamacare is still around. not only did they say these particular challenges, these 18 red states led by texas, cannot challenge this, the court seemed to say it is going to be really very hard for anybody else to do the same thing. so, it is not a ruling on the

merits but it is the next best thing to it. because it basically says not you, and probably not anybody else, gets to challenged obamacare on this legal theory. >> my follow-up question is does this mean the end of attempt to challenge this law in a fundamental way? it is probably like you are saying probably so. >> certainly on this legal theory. i don't see how anybody else can come along and say in harms us to have to not pay income tax penalty. there have been a number of different theories about obamacare. including it originated in the wrong chamber of commerce, congress. none of them have been able to succeed. i cannot say there isn't somebody out there somewhere who will come up with a creative new idea to tackle obamacare. but i just don't see right now with that would be. >> so dr. emanuel, this law has

been at the center of our politics and many of our most intense political fights for a decade now. coming in under president obama, trying to address the question of the millions of people who did not have access to healthcare. does this seem like maybe it is finally a punctuation mark on this particular debate. obviously, healthcare obviously at the center of so many things. but this law frankly, has become pretty popular. the opinion has shifted on it has people have gotten used to having this. top us talk us through what this means. also what it means for doctors, nurses, hospitals, the system that has come to be getting used to the way things are done now. >> you are 100% right as the system has gotten used to working under the affordable care act and has instructed everything the that it is through the lens of the affordable care act. had the supreme court overruled

it it would've turned the whole healthcare system aside them. 21 million people not have coverage because of this. i think going forward, there are probably three or four big issues in front of the country to make this a reality. one is 17 million americans are eligible for either medicaid or the exchanges that are not enrolled. getting them enrolled would take the impact to 38 million people. and really the total number of people in the country covered up over 95% to 96%. that is a major issue that needs to be addressed. and i think can be addressed. second is affordability. even americans with insurers are now very concerned about affordability. whether it is drug rices or hospital prices or their deductibles. and i and a lot of pressure on that. especially once we get covid under control, that is less of a worry. the economy opens up. the pressure on affordability is going to rise. as we have seen from covid, the pressures around equity, making

sure all parts of society are important. the aca did narrow the equity gap insurance and actually help status between minorities and whites. and i think that is an important element that also will be need need to be addressed by expending of the number of people covered and also making a more affordable for those people who do have coverage. so that is the way i see this. stop annoying us in the courts. this is part of the fabric of the healthcare system. and now let's solve the unsolved problems. with because there are, as you point out, many critical problems. affordability really at the top of the list. talk to us a little bit about what it is like for you to get to this point. you are working at the white house when this became law. i actually covered the minutia day in and day out getting this past initially. and then of course this was a central campaign issue in 2012. what do you feel like this ruling means for your former boss and people who have been putting aside for a decade?

>> i and the happiest human you know today. this thing was harder to pass then both obama campaigns. the first one or the reelection campaign. there is a reason why it took 100 years to pass it in the united states. and we are seeing how difficult it was. we saw the scars for trying to get this thing passed. this is now the third supreme court challenge. the republicans tried 71 times in the house and senate to repeal various pieces of this. and finally, maybe today, we can go forward and say okay, let's make it work even better. i am incredibly happy. i am gratified. there are many millions of americans whose lives are better because of the supreme court decision today not to strike this thing down. and amount i just want us to do exactly what you guys were talking about. roll up our sleeves together,

fight participle he and figure out how to make this thing even better and cover even more americans. and hopefully the politics are done here. but i doubt it. the reason why, they tried to repeal this 71 times is because this is a big issue in the republican party. it is a very popular bill. only about one third of the country does not approve of it. sadly those are all republican primary voters. and you saw statements immediately this morning for republican leadership saying they are going to try again. so that is unfortunate politics. for those of us who have labored so hard to get this done, including barack obama, i am sure today is incredibly happy. >> i'm sure. i'm sure we have not seen the end of this issue. but at the same time we still have not seen a republican alternative which is about how we got here. and of course let's not forget that john mccain thumbs down dramatically in the middle of the night that ultimately helped save this law from the legislative perspective as well. but josh, let's bring it back to the here and now.

what are we hearing from the bottom white house so far? and other prominent lawmakers on this ruling. anything yet on how this moves forward politically. i mean there is also a lot of work to be done in the healthcare arena. there has been a lot of fixes democrats i wanted to make for a long time. but they have been unable to open it up. because it has been the target of so much from the republicans. >> a palpable sense of release relief. you would imagine just as the president and his aides are getting back into the swing of things after his foreign trip and returning last night. some of his aides still on their way back from your. and of course, there is a relief that they are not going to have to have another healthcare crisis as they are on the tail end of the of the covid-19 pandemic. we heard from the president a few minutes ago on twitter calling it a bit when saying the aca is not here to stay and saying it remains as ever a bfb. which is of course a reference

so that hot mike moment in 2010 when the aca was passed and biden was cut on the microphone telling the president that it was big blanking deal. we are also hearing from congressional democrats who are both pleased about this but also using it as a cultural against republicans who have worked for more than a decade to undermine it. take a look at what mexico city had to say. >> today the supreme court decision is a landmark victory for democrats work to defend protections for people with pre- existing conditions. we will never forget republican leaders embraced this monstrous way to rip away america's healthcare in the middle of a deadly pandemic. >> and of course it is hard to under overstate how type in the affordable care act is to president biden's own legacy. not only helping him pass the law but as a candidate in 2020

took a lot of he bystander behind the law. saying that the path forward to be should build on it. even as many of his democratic primary competitors were saying it is not enough. that we should go towards medicare for all. the white house feeling confident in the decision today as well as the fact that due to the special coverage time that they opened up because of covid- 19, they were able to put another 1.2 million americans into the marketplace. >> a remarkable day. so pete, let's change gears here. on any other day frankly, the, this ruling that the supreme court made in favor of catholic social services, it could have easily led our show this morning. but of course, has been a little bit overtaken by the obamacare news. can you talk us through this unanimous ruling we saw on this decision? >> sure, this is a victory for catholic social services. which sued the city of philadelphia after philadelphia canceled his contract to provide homes for

foster children. catholic social services says it could not place the children in the homes of same-sex parents. in the cities they will i'm sorry but that violates our city contract which has nondiscrimination provision in it. catholic social services said that would violate our religious freedom if we had to do that. today's supreme court decision is extremely narrow. it could not be more narrow. is that okay, we think catholic social services should win here. but the reason it wins is not what catholic social services and ask the court to do, which is the clear that there is a religious freedom extension to discrimination laws. what the supreme court instead said is, this is such a narrow contract year. and there are exceptions to the contract. sometimes the city enforces these rules, sometimes it does not. and because of that, your religious freedom can take residence here. but what the opponents of philadelphia had hoped the court would say here, and this was the lawyers for catholic

social services, is the supreme court would overrule its decision of several years ago that said there is no religious freedom to laws that generally apply to everybody. that is what the supreme court did not do. very narrow ruling, victory for catholic social services. doesn't really have much wider impact. was interesting. so david henderson, let's expand on this. it's talking about how this may not be a big nationwide impact. but are you concerned that perhaps this cracks the door to other antidiscrimination, to challenge us to other antidiscrimination laws that could have a significant impact? >> i absolutely am. this case concerns me is a civil rights lawyer. but i have to be honest, it concerns me even more as a former children's lawyer. i have for the fact that even allowing for the possibility that children cannot be placed in a loving home because we are

discriminating against individuals who want to provide at home. i agree what was sent from a legal point of view in terms of the narrow ruling that the supreme court handed down here. but when it comes to appellate law, we tend to intellectualize our way out ejecting the needs of everyday people. if there is a silver lining here him of the washington post has reported that the same-sex couple has never approached catholic social services before. and it is only one of 30 other agencies that can provide services to help benefit children in the city of philadelphia. at the same time, just last fall here in texas, our governor decided that social workers should be allowed to refuse services to people based on sexual orientation. and although this is a narrow ruling, i think it is unreasonable to anticipate that you will not see complaints and efforts like that revived her to today's decision. >> all right pete williams, josh letterman, and everyone, thanks for all of you for getting us started today. coming up next, shot in the

dark. why some teenagers are finding they are unable to get covid vaccine if parents will not give them permission. but first, whirlwind week, president biden back in washington knowing that g7 summit, nato meetings and the historic summit with lata mayor putin. so where does the domestic agenda stand now that he is at home. you are watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. nobody builds 5g like verizon builds 5g. thousands of engineers taking peak performance to a new level. that's why in parts of many major cities where people can use massive capacity we added verizon 5g ultra wideband, the fastest 5g in the world. it isn't just a step forward, it's a leap forward. because the more you do with 5g, the more your network matters. it's us pushing us. it's verizon vs verizon. and who wins? you. struggling to manage my type 2 diabetes

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it is something they cannot support. i actually asked house speaker nancy pelosi specifically about that today. in her press conference i asked her, does it meet climate change components? and here is what she had to say. i think it is important for people to say what their priorities are as we develop how we go forward.

one step, two-step, i don't think -- where do we want to end up and how will that happen kwik-e-mart >> so pelosi did not draw any redlines about it. especially the climate change component that keeps coming up as a big priority for these progresses. but it is still complicated. the politics, the contents on trying to get any bipartisan plan agreed to. >> it is pretty interesting how she framed that. essentially voice her concerns now then let's move forward and we will figure out how to make sure they are addressed at some point. even if it is not stage one of the process. michael crowley, let's put a button on the putin summit. some of the comments we heard from the president after his press conference came on the tarmac in geneva. let's take a look. >> russell is a very difficult time. they are being squeezed by

china. they want desperately to remain a major power. i found almost every world leader, no matter where they are from, how they are perceived or standing in the world. he matters to them. >> of course that word power is when we heard several times from president putin and his press conference. obviously incredibly important to the russians. what is your assessment of where the power stands in the wake of this? >> well, i think at the moment, their power stands fairly unchanged frankly. and you know, i think one reaction i have to hearing the comments from the president as i was hearing similar things in the obama administration. people have been saying for a while that vladimir putin was a seat at the international table , is cognizant of his standing, and they are persuasive arguments. and they may be borne out.

i think the reason to be skeptical is that he has carried on for the last several years with behavior that he knows is going to drop extreme international condemnation and ostracism. you know attempted assassinations with nerve agents . it is particularly a provocative and horrible way to target your enemies. not just kind of a gunshot in a dark alley, but basically a weapon of mass destruction. not to mention interfering in the democratic processes of western nations including the united states. he is not an idiot. and he knows those actions are going to continue to make him a pariah. so i just wonder whether appealing to reason anything to him hey, don't you want a seat back at the table western mark is telling him something he does not already know. however, you know, the fact that president biden is willing to sit down with him and have what apparently was a

respectable conversation in which they talked about potential areas of mutual cooperation, maybe there's not great harm in trying that. and maybe it was slightly nudged the russian leader on a new course. i just think that the past several years give us another reason for pessimism when it comes to this framing of's behavior. was understandably. it also discounts a little bit the idea that the most important thing to him our pressures at home, his domestic politics and remaining in power. which i think also perhaps a month sometimes counter to what we make a scene he was on the international stage. bill rooker, you've heard it all. you've heard it all when you were covering former president trump. yesterday we had very measured news conference from president biden. tactically the whole trip was that way. but he did kind of loses temper a little bit at the end and

then he tried to clean it up. let's take a look at that. >> how did that help in a constructive means >> if you don't understand that. >> i owe my last question or an apology. i have i should not abuse is a wise guy. >> he also on the tarmac called out a reporter for always asking negative questions. a little bit of joe biden's personality flashing the air. a unique window. but let's be honest, the reality was this trip was much a return to international norms and the usual conduct of a u.s. president with our allies and our adversaries than anything that we saw from the former president. >> you are exactly right casey. first of all, those were entirely appropriate questions for reporters to ask and good for president biden for acknowledging that and apologizing. that is not something we ever heard from president trump who famously tangled with reporters

and condemned them and never, never offered an apology for anything. he saw that as a sign of weakness. but in terms of the trip overall, you are right. president biden got high marks from those watching at home in part because he was friendly with our friends. and he was tough on our foes. and there was a sense of normalcy to that trip. he acted like a traditional american statesman as he was abroad at the g7 summit, at the nato summit and of course sitting down face-to-face with president putin. and it was an entirely different experience than the one, then the many once former president trump had when he would go to the summits. he famously through a pair of starburst candies at the german chancellor angela merkel. we did not see joe biden do that at this time. was i had forgotten about that. but you are absolutely right. we, of course, are not in a different era.

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welcome back. the united states is about to have a new federal holiday marking the end of slavery.

in a rare sight of bipartisanship last night the house voted overwhelmingly in support of the juneteenth bill. the president will sign it into law this afternoon just days ahead of june 19. when more than 250,000 black slaves in texas were informed had been freed by the emancipation proclamation. speaker pelosi and the members of the black caucus celebrate the black caucus bill this morning. sheila jackson lee the sponsor of the legislation in the house. congresswoman, you gambled this overwhelmingly partisan vote in the house last night. the vote was 415 to 14. talk a little bit about the significance for you and your home state of texas. and of course, for our nation, who, this is a remarkable day in our history that would only be formally acknowledged starting this weekend. >> thank you for having me this afternoon. you cannot imagine the moment that that gavel came down,

really brought it down for those who do not live. this was so significant because it encouraged people across the country. and it reckoned with the fact that a quarter of 1 million people were held as property for 2 1/2 more years. and frankly, i believe the affirmation of this legislation, this holiday, 48 years since the last federal holiday was established, really indicated that the original sin of this nation with the knowledge that american can begin to talk about it in a unified manner and we accepted the words of abraham lincoln. an action divided against itself cannot stand. last night, republicans and democrats, 415, voted to make juneteenth a national holiday. in texas, we have a lot of fun. we have great celebrations. but it is sober and somber and real. and americans will have an opportunity to experience that in a federal holiday.

>> so congresswoman, let's talk about another critical civil rights question at hand today and this year. and that's voting rights. which is really a fundamental existential question for so many people. and we saw senator joe manchin circulating a list of demands he wants to change the for the people acting says this is what he will cover my son. he doesn't want to make election day a public holiday but he will use a computer formula to do that and he was to allow voter i.d. and allow different databases to remove people from the rolls. we have already heard from minority leader mcconnell calling this rotten. what do you stand on what would joe manchin is suggesting. >> i have worked on voting rights for two decades plus. the work that we did last night

for juneteenth was bipartisan and it was teamwork. my team members in the senate, and team members here in the house that were bipartisan. here is where i stand. the congressional black conscious caucus the conscious of this congress along with my other colleagues know that yesterday was a start. it said to republicans and democrats questions of race can be voted on and the american people will stand by you. i will listen to joe manchin because our intent is to ensure that voting rights are past. it is an absolute necessity. i was here for the reauthorization about a decade ago. and it was bipartisan. i know hr one was written in part john lewis. the late john lewis because he knew what the infrastructure voting needed to be. i'm pushing that. i'm pushing hr for. the reauthorization of the 1950 -- voting rights act.

i'm pushing the justice and policing. yesterday was a start. we need to get in and engage in a discussion. and i would again say to the minority leader, it is sad when your legacy is leaving in a restaurant in washington to say that president obama would have one turn. your desire to make sure the president biden's agenda does not work. why are you opposing america's unity? and so let him stand as an isolated person. and i am willing to work, we are, with joe manchin, the democrats in the senate, republicans in the senate, and the house. and we are ready to get the job done. that is what we have to do. that is what this affirmation of this holiday was. we voted on it. it was unified. it was bipartisan. let's get working. we cannot dwell on negative talk. we have to talk and legal issues that will move us forward and

move us all forward for social justice and racial equity. >> of course the last five over major holiday was mlk day. thank you very much for your time today. we really appreciate you being here. up next, the age-old story, teenagers bumping his with mom and dad. but this time is it is about getting the covid vaccine. how teenagers are leaning on each other to try to change the minds of their anti-becks parents. becks parents. barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪

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[lazer beam and sizzling sounds] ♪♪ welcome back. there is a troubling trend of teenagers being hospitalized covid-19 anything intensive care. this is happening despite the vaccine being readily available for those ages 12 and up. but there is a big caveat. in most states if you are under 18 you need your parents permission to get the vaccine. and some parents are hesitant even if the child is ready to

roll up their sleeves and get the shot. savanna silva spoke to several teenagers about how they navigated this conversation. with everybody in our family has mixed reviews on the covid vaccine or even covid in general. making a 17 years old. she wanted the covid vaccine. but when she asked her parents for an appointment they told her they did not trust him. >> i may have yelled at them a little bit, i'm not going to lie. i was very upset. but i'd then decided that i will try again tomorrow. the day after that and keep going until i break them down peer because it was either i break them down or they break me now. >> reporter: according to a survey by the kaiser family foundation and estimated one in for parents say they will not allow their kids to get vaccinated. in all but 5 states, 12 to 15- year-old need their parents to sign off. for kids 16 to 18 it is all over the place. >> random times i would bring it up. just so they will get it in

their head. so after they said no and you got upset, what did you do to get information to talk to them about it? >> i went upstairs into my room and i looked up how to convince your parent to get the vaccine question >> that is what you google? >> reporter: on the other side of the search is another teenager. 18-year-old kelly. >> there is a lot of misinformation about how it works. >> reporter: she runs a website that connects teenagers like megan with the science-based information you're looking for. it was around before covid. but kelly says such as is skyrocketed during the pandemic. >> i see new posts every single day from every state. >> reporter: some even asking for help like fights on reddit. >> can you remove some of the messages you are getting from other teenagers? >> i want to get the covid vaccine to keep the myself and others say. i've done excessive research on it and i've doubled every argument my parents have about it but they will not budge.

>> what would you say about that? >> i give them my phone number and i said you can, and we can brainstorm together. >> reporter: how many messages like this do you think you have seen at this point? >> thousands. >> reporter: high school senior kenny anderson also experienced tension as well. with tell me what your family sequester more >> they were not in favor of it. >> but then he realized since he is 18 he could get the shot without his family permission. >> i did not dismiss their opinion. i just one day i turned in the form and i just went, did not really talk about it to anybody. and after i was done i like hey guys i got the vaccine. >> what would you have done if you were 17? >> i would have felt very scared because i'm going off to college. >> reporter: asked for megan, her research paid off. her mom eventually took her to an appointment and she is fully vaccinated with a message to others just like her. >> don't give up. keep a cool calm head.

>> joining me now is savanna sellers. savanna it is great to see you. a fascinating piece. what are the conversations like that the teenagers are having with their parents who might be a little more hesitant to convince them that it is okay to get the vaccine. >> the short answer is they are intense. megan coming her from her during that piece, she was the young woman at the end of the piece. she was able to come and convince her parents. she compared asking to get the vaccine to getty a puppy. she literally said it was like asking parents for a dog. she said before she was having to medicate, take deep breaths, but the big key is to make sure that you are getting your information from trustworthy sources so you can go to your parents if you are a teenager in the situation and provide them with that scientific information. there are actually

resources on that website mentioned in the that essentially function like chat but where the teenager can try out talking to their parents and learn how to have the conversation in the right way. of course, the tough thing is this is coming from a place of love on all sides. a parent thinks they are protecting their child and the child wants to get the vaccine to protect others. so it is coming from a place of respect. >> all right thanks very much for that important reporting. we really appreciate it. coming up next, gaining steam. the bipartisan pitch is coming together on capitol hill. we are going to dive into that coming up next on andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. to support local animal shelters. we're proud to have helped over 230,000 pets so far... changing the lives of dogs like jack, and the families

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and who wins? you. orn one of president biden's major agenda items may, emphasis may be within reach 11on republicans now support a bipartisanow compromise framewo on infrastructure after weeks of negotiations. that would, in theory, give it enough gop support but that is only the case, of course, if a paired down bill can maintain enough democratic support to pass the senate.or so, joining me now is one of the democratic senators s involved the negotiations over the bipartisan proposal. senator john tester. thank you so much for being here. let's start right there with that. 11 republicans who have signed on to this framework. is this framework also going to

be able to get all 50 democrats? >> well, time will tell on that. i think the key is we have to make sure that we have a package that we can all sign off on. we're very close, we're not there yet and hopefully have a package by monday and then once we have that package we can send it out to both democrats and republicans to see i we can get their support. >> senator tester, the thorniest part of this is, okay, we all know we want to spend money on new roads, bridges and things like that. figuring out to pay for that is really tricky. i want to zero in on two things in this or at least have been on the table at some point. the gas tax whether inflation and fees for users of electric vehicles, who of course, pay less in gas taxes. are either or both of those policy proposals in the framework as it currently stands? >> i think they may be in the framework. i certainly don't support the

gas tax and it would have an h impact on my support for the bill. so, hopefully we can remove that gas tax and get another pay for for that. the electric vehicle issue is less of an issue for me, but the gas tax, i think, could be a real, i don't want to say deal killer, but it could really have some negative effects on who supports it and who doesn't. >> i was just going to try to underscore that point a little bit. if the gas tax goes up here, would you be no vote? >> look, i want to get to a finished product, cassy and make sure we have something that as a serious investment and infrastructure and move it forward so we can compete worldwide in particular with the chinese.la so, i'm not going to cancel myself out on anything. what i am going to do is lobby hard and negotiate hard to get the gas tax out. >> so, senator, does this proposal, this bipartisan proposal, does this future

depend ontu making sure that democrats canth also pass a reconciliation package with 50 votes? i mean, is that the tradeoff here? you have to get this bipartisan package done with o 60 votes an the only way to do it is have reconciliation if. >> i don't think it's a tradeoff. the fact of thes matter is thi is a good package. i think the other fact of the matter is opportunity to do even more and ifpo we have to do, ev if we have to do it through reconciliation, that is not a deal breaker. so, hopefully we can get thisre through in a bipartisan way and hopefullywa we get another packe through in a bipartisan way but if we can't, i think we still need to deal with things like housing and child care and senior care and v.a. facilities. so, there's plenty of reasons t do another package, but i think the key is how are we going to pay for it and are we going to be able to get enough votes to do it. >> so, speaking of the other

package. one of o my colleagues on capit hill just spoke with senator berniewi sanders, chairman of t budget committee. sounds like they're talking about $6 trillion as an initial proposal fors reconciliation package. is there anyon way a package wi that kind of price tag, $6 trillion, would get 50 democratic votes in thege senat? >> look, i think we would have to see, it seems a bit hefty to me. but we have to see what's in it to make sure that it's money that, number one, is well spent and o helps move our economy forward and helps keep us ke competitive. as i said earlier, you know, our chief economic threat in this world is china. and we'verl got to make sure we can outcompete them and infrastructure is a big part of that. so any package whether it's this $579 million package or any package out of the budget committee, we have to look at it and make sure we're getting the biggest bang for the buck and make sure we move the working

families and businesses forward in this country. >> senator, let me broaden out our conversation just a little bit because, we've seen republicans already come out against joe manchin's suggested compromises on voting rights and mitch mcconnell calling it and they hope to essentially limit president biden to half a term by taking back the senate. mitch mcconnell has also basically said he wants to stop the biden agenda. do you feel like you can negotiate with republicans and especially with r republican leaders in good faith or have you lost faith that they're willing to do anything to work with this president in your party? >> look, i think that voter suppression is something that doesn't sell in any state in the union. i think we've seen t a lot of state legislatures, including the one in montana, do a lot to prevent people from voting, particularly certain parts of our populous from voting. i don't have a lot of faith that we can getro the other side of e

aisle to come along. that's changed in the last 25 years, bye the way. democrats and republicans used to work together to make voting easier and to make it easier to beer able to cast your ballot. now it doesn't seem to be that way. i think that's very, very unfortunate and i v think it's really important that we allow people to vote. for example, there's an effort to stop young people from voting. those are the people we should be encouragingfo to vote. they are going to be running this show in 10 or 15 years. their voice is critically important. we need to do everything we can do to make sure we get dark money out of campaigns because that is not good and i think everybody around this country, democrat and republican, is sick of the dark money and i think we need to do our level best to make sure we're making it easier for people to vote. i will tell you claims of voting fraud is a fraud. and we need to do our level best to make sure that people can cast their ballots in rural areas, urban areas and everywhere in between.

>> all right, senator jon tester, thank you so much forht taking some time to be with us today. we really appreciate it. thanks for all of you for watching. that does it for this "andrea mitchell reports." don't go anywhere, chuck todd is up next with "mtp daily" up next only here on msnbc. limu emu... and doug. so then i said to him, you oughta customize your car insurance with liberty mutual, so you only pay for what you need. oh um, doug can we talk about something other than work, it's the weekend. yeah, yeah. [ squawk ] hot dog or... chicken? [ squawk ] only pay for what you need.

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