73% of voters who turned out in 2017 the last time and this is because many people felt that they didn't have a real choice. most of the candidates were disqualified and the reformist camp in iran has lost much of its last. no one believes they have what it takes to make tangible changes in the country, and also, a lot of people i spoke to said they voted for rouhani last time so raisi wouldn't win and four years later he's become president with ease, so there was no point in going to the ballot box. raisi is an austere man who spent most of his career in the judiciary and staunchly anti-american and deeply conservative and there is a feeling of forboding here that he may seek to enforce a pure tan cal system of islamic govern am, possibly meaning more controls on social activities,

fewer social freedoms and possibly tighter controls on the media. >> there's a lot to digest there, but first thing's first, voter apathy never a good thing. thank you very much ali arusy from tehran. ♪♪ ♪ and a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports." we be gain with new reaction over the vote of voting rights. the senate expected to take up the vote for people voting rights bill, that will be tuesday, but its future could be in limbo after senator mitch mcconnell voted to block that bill. speaking on msnbc earlier, jim clyburn says republicans isn't be able to block this type of legislation. >> voting rights, like all other constitutional rights are not subjected to filibusters and now this reducing from 60 from 55, they didn't get it from me.

what gets it from me to remove the filibuster from constitutional issues as we have done for the budget because i do believe that it is very, very important for us to do that. >> also, infrastructure talks to capitol hill. a $1 trillion package is getting support from both sides and democrats are considering a $6 trillion bill without support from republicans. ben cardin telling me last hour it doesn't have to be one or the other. >> a lot of what's in this compromise, what's in it is fine, but it doesn't go far enough. so i hope that we can find a bipartisan pay it forward to pass infrastructure, but it needs to be accompanied by a bill that would fill in the gaps that would -- which is not included in the compromise bill. >> and across the country today, americans are celebrating juneteenth for the very first time as an official federal

holiday with marches and rallies planned from texas to new york. in the last hour, texas congressman allred called this a great day. >> in texas, juneteenth has been celebrated by black texans all my life and this is such an important holiday for us and to see it now become a national holiday, to hear the president of the united states talking about it in terms that he talked about it, to hear the first black woman vice president of the united states talk about it and sheila jackson-lee who led the legislation or opal lee who as you probably know is really the reason why so many of us got behind this and why it became law, it was a great day. >> now to reports from capitol hill and the white house on new information about the january 6th attack and the president's latest message on covid, with a welcome to you both, i will start with new details emerging from the january 6th, capitol riot investigation and scott mcfarland who is joining us with

the possible new connection that the fbi is looking into. scott? >> hey, alex. the courts were closed for the juneteenth holiday and remain closed this weekend, but the court filings are still coming in, and there's a lot of news in there. we got a 63-page fbi transcript of an interview with thomas webster, a former marine, a former new york city police officer and the feds say the man who attacked a d.c. police officer in this video january 6th. the transcript shows agent asked webster about any affiliation he might have with far-right group, the oathkeepers, 3 percenters or proud boys or capitol police officers. to all those questions, webster answered no, but he's still in jail fighting his detention. he's pleaded not guilty to several federal charges. new video of scott fairlam,

according to federal prosecutors. he is from new jersey and this is fairlam outside the capitol attacking an officer and menacing others. he's also pleaded not guilty, also being held in pre-trial detention. those are two of nearly 500 cases so far in the capitol insurrection, and this week the fbi director said to expect hundreds more investigations beyond those 500. alex? >> indeed, right you are. 500 and counting. thank you for that. president biden is touting a new milestone in the fight against covid. 300 million shots in 150 days. nbc's monica alba joining us from the white house. the president set that goal to have 70% to have americans vaccinated by july 4th. how is this measuring up? >> well, if we look at the last couple of weeks, alex, the progress has been so incremental. right now we're at about 65% of all u.s. adults with at least one dose, that that goal of july

4th, just two weeks from tomorrow does not look likely and that is not why you had the president touting these other major benchmarks and urging americans and encouraging them not to be complacent and for anybody who is still a little bit nervous or undecided, the president made the case that the new delta variant is something that should worry people especially some who are younger, even to hopefully try to get them off the sidelines and finally get their shot. the president saying he still hopes that the fourth of july will be seen as a celebratory and symbolic date to celebrate some independence from the virus, but that likely it will be difficult to get to his goal if we don't see a massive influx in the next few days. take a listen. >> just remember what the situation was 150 days ago. we didn't have enough vaccine supply for all americans. we didn't have the vaccine infrastructure or the people to administer the vaccines or the

places where the people could get vaccinated, but we turned it around together by acting quickly, aggressively and equitably. we are heading into the summer of joy. the summer of freedom. on july 4th, we will celebrate our independence from the virus as we celebrate the independence of our nation. >> one way the white house is going to mark that, alex, is with a major event on the south lawn where they will be hosting some emergency responders, health care workers, more than 1,000 people are expected and there will probably be a giant fireworks display as there usually is and of course, a very different one from what we saw last year in the middle of the pandemic and we should remind everybody that june was supposed to be this major month of action for the white house and he deputized vice president kamala harris to go out and travel and try to motivate more people to get these shots in arms, but just what we've seen over the last few weeks is something, a trend where these vaccinations

are in such a decline. demand is so low and supply is so high now that that's yet united states is continuing to send many of the surplus doses overseas instead. >> indeed. better than having them go to waste, that's for sure. monica alba at the white house. thank you for that. happening right now, millions of people in the u.s. are facing extreme weather from flooding rains to heat waves. in fact, right now a tropical storm warning is in effect for parts of mississippi and parts of north carolina are now rnd a tropical storm watch as claudette is moving north and across the west, excessive heat warnings are in effect today. in some areas the scorching temperatures are expected to be in the triple digits. let's go to nbc's steve paterson joining us from santa monica, california who is following the latest on this historic heat wave. i've got to tell you, my friend steve, you have done exactly los angelinos do, and they go to

santa monica and under the cover of june gloom and this is expected ten miles inland on. >> yeah. that's exactly what we're seeing right now, alex. i know this is where angelino goes to escape. you can see it right now, the marine layer and the cloud cover of the beach escaping every other part of the city before this gets unbearable. it's still pretty early on, as you look at the rest of the country. 11 states expecting triple digits and 40 million americans in some sort of extreme heat alert. hundreds of records this week broken and i'm not just talking about maximum high temperatures. i'm talking about how dangerous it's getting early on in the day. a place like tucson right now, they're hitting 100 degrees by about 8:00 a.m. not only does that talk about what happens to your own personal safety in trying to stay safe from this heat and also infrastructure taking a pounding. california right now under flex alert so we don't see rolling blackouts and power outages and

that's what climate scientists are trying to get across and breaking news, it's hot during the summer, but they're saying that this, we're talking about highs that are ten to 30 degrees above average right now, this would be extreme for the peak of august. a lot of those scientists saying a lot of this is attributed to climate change. that's exactly what one i spoke to said that this could be a startling new normal. i spoke to daniel swain. he's a climate scientist looking at this and just how hot it is right now. here's what he told me. listen to this. >> the low precipitation is obviously also a problem, but it really is increasingly these rising temperatures to the dominant factor in a lot of these things and we do expect those temperatures to continue to increase in the coming years as the climate continues to warm and so these changes may sound incremental, but the impacts on human systems and ecosystems is

really quite profound even for just a couple of degrees of warming. >> this is also happening at the fact that we are in this historic drought in california and about 50% of the american west which means it's exacerbating that drought. crops are suffering, and infrastructure further stress because a lot of these reservoirs that feed powerplants are also being stressed by the fact that there's a lot less water in the atmosphere in general. it is a bad situation for millions of people that live here and for millions more that rely on this area for produce and just sustainability in general. >> i have to tell you, steve. it is a lot to comprehend and that's a wide-ranging report you give us there and there are no immediate solutions. it's a lot. anyway, thank you for bringing it all to our attention from santa monica. let's go now, everyone, to a terrifying shooting in new york that should shock each and every one of you.

it was captured on video which we will warn you is both disturbing, frightening and frankly, incomprehensible and it all played out on the city sidewalk. these two young children were caught in the cross fire a few feet from their home, and wnbc picks up the story from here. watch this. >> reporter: two kid, a brother and sister just steps from their home, ducking for cover as bullets fly. a gang beef turning violent on sherman avenue thursday afternoon. the hitman targeting a reputed gang member firing at will. the guy trying to escape the gun fire falling on top of the kids just 5 and 10 years old. the hitman firing off a dozen rounds. none of them striking the kids. >> i'm disgusted to be honest with you. it's very alarming. >> it's yet nypd top uniformed cop rodney harrison told news 4 when he visited the scene. he has pored over the video several times and one thing is very clear.

>> they'll shoot at anybody at any time, in front of kids, during the day, and this is what it's turned into. nypd data showed shooting incidents are up 64.2% over last year. 634 shootings as of sunday compared with 386 during the same period last year. >> it is disgusting. really disgusting, and it's frightening, too. [ indiscernible ] >> as if shootings weren't traumatizing enough, the culture of fear, gun violence puts in a neighborhood can be worse. >> we need our police officers out here. this is why we make sure we deploy more cops especially out here in the bronx where we see the violence going back and forth. >> stunning, right? the search for the suspect is still ongoing and i hope they get him. >> mike lindell, the my pillow

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♪♪ ♪♪ the first juneteenth holiday celebrations are in full swing around this country from a walk through fort worth texas by opal lee, the 94-year-old woman known as the grandmother of juneteenth. she spent most of her life advocating for this federal holiday to the unveiling of a george floyd monument in new york. antonio in new york. i know you spent the morning in flatbush and bed-stuy. i'm curious what folks are saying about the significance of this new holiday? >> hi, alex. look, as these celebrations happen across new york city, here in heavily black communities like bed-stuy, people here, they are accustomed to celebrating juneteenth and while they feel that it's nice that the federal government is

now recognizing and nationalizing this holiday, for them it does not change how they feel about it or what they decide to do. this festival here in the park has been happening for over ten years. when you talk to people here, while it looks like a cookout, there are kids playing and people selling, vendor, food, jewelry and other items, it is also to some folks a protest and i want you to hear directly from some of the people that i've met today. >> so what does juneteenth mean to you? >> celebrating black people. >> my main issue with it happening the way it's happening, republicans voted for this holiday, but yet not one of them are willing to vote for the john lewis voting rights act. so i feel like you're giving us a crumb and it's a diversion from the real issue. if you feel we deserve juneteenth why not the john lewis voting rights act? so let's remember that.

>> reporter: that last point there is really the most important one because that has come up all throughout the day today that this holiday is coming in a national backdrop of a fight for voting rights, of a continued push for racial justice here and while people are grateful that in the wake of george floyd's murder that juneteenth and other elements of black history have been brought to the forefront in this country, many people tell me that they feel that this country has so much further to go and they want to see legislators, local leaders take action now and not just call out juneteenth and come to events like this one and actually go to work next week and make sure that legislation and action is taken in defense of black people and black voters, alex. >> that last interview that you did, very, very important sound bite there. antonio hilton, thank you so much. as the juneteenth flag flies high today overstate capitols we are joined by marcia chapman

professor at georgetown university and the newly minted pulitzer prize-winning author. gosh, lots to say to you. happy juneteenth and congratulations on the pulitzer and we'll get to the prestigious recognition to just a moment. i want you to comment on that last woman that antonia interviewed, yeah, we're getting this now, but it feels like bread crumbs. i'm curious about context because this was a holiday celebrated by african-americans for centuries and why is it important for americans to celebrate juneteenth as a nation? and how much does this count, i guess, is what i'm asking? >> well, i think that is so articulated by people who have been very critical of the federal government's decision to recognize this aspect of african-american history while we have a culture war and suppression over the teaching of 1619.

i think for many of us, we learned a cautionary tale of the martin luther king jr. holiday to hold king's values and sanitized it, so i think what we can see with this holiday is that people will not accept the bread crumbs and that they're going to use this moment to push people to say what this means to commemorate the struggle of people who were enslaved and then learned their freedom after it was granted. this holiday is very much like state actors versus federal laws that benefit african-americans. >> yeah. there are some aspects of the actual events that led to juneteenth that remain a bit murky. what is your understanding of how texas was able to keep people enslaved two full years after the emancipation proclamation. how did it actually come about? >> well, some people argued that because of texas' location and the lack of union soldier presence in the state of texas that it was able to evade the

emancipation proclamation and expand slavery in some parts of the state and at the heart of this issue is that even after the emancipation proclamation african-americans were enslaved in border states and there wasn't a complete eradication of slavery and it never fully committed to reconstruction which was supposed to be the legislative and federally led way to try to fully bring african-americans as citizens in people that depend on the federal government for relief and so in many ways this holiday is about the unfinished business of racial justice and of emancipation and i think people keep bringing up this issue regularly. >> let's take a listen to some of what the president said at the bill signing this week. let's listen together with this. >> nations don't ignore at the most critical moments. they don't ignore those moments in the past. they embrace them. great nations don't walk away.

we come to terms with the mistakes we made, and in remembering those moments we begin to heal and grow stronger. how much does that make sense to you, what he said. do you see an official recognition with juneteenth with teaching americans about the lingering fallout from slavery with critical race theory is why do you think republicans are so strongly opposed to this? >> republicans have basically had the party to uphold white supremacy as politely as possible and they use misinformation and a lot of dramatics in order to do it. i think that everyone who has been engaged in this fight to stop the children from learning history, should be ashamed of themselves to say there's celebration in juneteenth because even in their

explanation of what juneteenth is about, they are whitewashing the reality of that, as well, and so i think we have to be really vigilant against the rhetoric to turn juneteenth into a celebration of freedom rather than a deep indictment of the nation's reluctance to end the institution of slavery. >> yeah. going to get to the prize because you've won the pulitzer for history writing. this is a huge deal. it's huge. it's gynormous. you said you wrote "franchise" to help us understand where parts of society failed americans, being in mchas had to pick up the slack. so tell me what you mean by all of this. should society lean on a corporation like this to fill a void of this magnitude? >> absolutely not. i wrote "franchise" because i had this real curiosity about the moment that african-americans were terrorized by police and crying out for the dream of civil

rights, when there was no fair housing there was this explosion of corporate saturation in african-american neighborhoods especially with the fast food industry, and so what i take to task is a nation that allows for people who are demanding equal rights and when they offer opportunities to open businesses or to simply be consumers. >> you know, let me quote the pulitzer committee which described your book as a portrait of race and capitalism that masterfully illustrates how the fight for civil rights has been intertwined with the fate of black businesses. what would you say is the state of black-owned business today? what kind of support is still needed and where should it come from. >> black-owned businesses and they have to start bearing the weight of a society that leaves african-american businesses aside and while it's completely fine to make those choices as consumers, it doesn't get to the

reasons why george floyd is no longer here and why people are still crying out for justice and that rests on the hands of the federal government because it's the state that ultimately is responsible for its people and businesses should stick to buying and selling product. >> congratulations. thank you for the chat. your georgetown university students are awfully lucky to have you as a professor. thank you so much. after 15 months of no, the answer is finally y but before you book your tickets to the eu, why you need to read the fine print. that's next.

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this breaking news to share out of south carolina where a bus crash has left at least one dz and dozens more hurt. it involved a bus colliding head-on with an suv. that road is shut down while police are investigating the cause of the wreck and no word on how many people are onboard

that bus. we'll bring you updates as soon as they are available. more breaking news to report as we have this new video showing the damage from a reported tornado this morning in southern alabama. several homes have been destroyed and a school was significantly damaged. the likely tornado was spawned from that tropical storm claudette, and then there's this just in, the florida highway patrol, the highway 10 is closed in both directions due to high winds. flooding is also a concern across the region. we'll keep you updated on all of these developing stories. we have some new encouraging you in numbers in the coronavirus to share. president biden has had 300 million covid vaccines in 150 days. at this hour, 65% of adults have gotten at least one shot. canada is expanding its ban on non-essential travel and that ban has been in place since

march of last year and a victory for the cruise industry. a judge blocked the cdc from enforcing its covid rules for ships leaving ports. the cdc overstepped its authority and gave it to july 2nd to create new guidelines and the first test cruise from a u.s. port departs tomorrow from miami. and we're covering two big coronavirus stories for you right now with nbc's molly hunter in london and allison barber in brookfield, missouri. we'll go first to you, molly and the good news for you hoping to travel to europe and they're hoping to lift travel restrictions for all u.s. tourists, right? >> i have to say i'm surprised you're not in paris right now and i, of course, wish i was in paris, but this is good news and the vaccines and the vaccinations on both sides of the atlantic are getting people out the door. i want to play a little bit of sound from the belgium prime minister who certainly voices a lot of the optimism on this side

of the pond. take a listen. >> i mean, we have been -- we have been separated from the atlantic for too long due to the pandemic. the fact that travel picks up again shows that the vaccination, the vaccination approaches are working on both sides of the atlantic. >> now, the vaccines are working even against the delta variant that we have been talking about in the u.s. and the uk and travelers have got to be flexible and this is not 2019 and portugal, for example, last week opened up to american tourists and by mid-week they were seeing the highest number of cases they have seen since march and tomorrow germany opens up to american tourists. on monday italy opens up to tourists and a few things to be mindful of, read the fine print. every country will make its own rules and entry requirements may be a rapid pcr test and no global vaccine passport just yet and no eu wide certification

like california, and they had to test before they arrived on day two, on day five to get released from quarantine, on day eight and they had to test again on their way back to the u.s. and they're double vaccinated and read the fineprint and do the planning before you actually get here and to be clear, the eu has moved ahead of the u.s. and europeans and brits can't fly directly just yet and i know there are a lot of people there this summer. >> as the london co-anchor, any time you want to co-anchor from pair i i'm there. appreciate that. let's go to the emerging threat of the delta variant. let's go to allison barber in brookfield, missouri, where it was first detected about a month ago. i'm curious, allison, what we can learn about the delta variant there because they were right in the nation's heartland and the extent to which it is

spreading. >> reporter: i think so far they're telling us the lesson is that this should be a warning to people who aren't vaccinated yet that this is an incredibly contagious variant and it will essentially find you. missouri is working with the waste water facility like this one to see whether or not covid-19 is present in communities and to identify specifically which variants are there and what they found is not only that the delta variant present in the state of missouri, but they said that it is spreading particularly fast in smaller, rural communities where they have less vaccinated people in those communities. where we are right now, less than a third of the people living here are fully vaccinated. they discovered the delta variant in that waste water here just last month. listen here. >> in november when we weren't dealing with that variant being in our community we had maybe

one or two members of the household testing positive and now we have seen whole households testing positive and doing the same mitigation and isolation guidelines that we have been promoting through the whole pandemic. >> this definitely seems to be spreading faster? >> yes. >> reporter: and the county health administrator who you just heard from there said initially when they rolled out the covid-19 vaccines in this area they had a lot of interest from people 65 and up and of late, once you got into the range of 20 to about 60, they've seen the interest level drop to low levels that she dropped disconcerting. she says right now that is the group who is getting particularly sick with this variant of covid-19, the delta variant and that the rate of hospitalization right now among that unvaccinated group specifically with the delta variant is about 14% in terms of hospitalizations. alex? >> notable number there. thank you so much, allison barber. a fiery back and forth over the

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♪♪ ♪♪ the u.s.-mexico border at the center of a tense exchange. homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas defending vice president kamala harris as he faced questions on why the vice president has not yet visited the border.

>> it is my responsibility to manage the border at the direction of the president and the vice president, and i have visited the board or multiple occasions. >> the border patrol -- >> have you talked to the border patrol agents? >> and number three -- >> have you spoken to the border patrol agents? >> i most certainly have. i most certainly have, and number three, if i may, the vice president served as the attorney general of a border state of california, and she is quite familiar with the situation on the border. >> she has not been -- >> i have a limited amount of time. >> okay. and so do we. we'll make sense of this now as we are joined by california congresswoman annette barragan and the first vice chair of the congressional hispanic caucus. good to see you.

>> know you took part in that hearing, what did you make of that exchange and how important is it to take this talking point away from republicans? >> well, alex, republicans are focused on one thing and they're just focused on trying to go after the administration and they're not really focused on the problem or solutions. they're not focused on domestic terrorism which is the biggest threat to the homeland right now. it was sad to see the exchange with my colleague and the reality is that secretary mayorkas has been to the border many, many times, i myself accompanied with him, and i have seen him talking to the border agents and he was trying to make it sound as though no one has visit the the border and doesn't know what's happening. those root causes start in the northern triangle countries. you have to go to those countries to see what is happening and that's exactly what she has done. i wish our counterparts on the other side of the aisle would focus on the greatest threat to

our homeland which i'll keep repeating this, domestic terrorism here at home. >> the secretary brought up a good point that she was a attorney general of a border state. so certainly within her capacity in that role, she understood very well the issues along the border. >> there is no doubt that vice president harris understands the issues at the border. she's been to the border. we've had many conversations and the congressional hispanic caucus has and she understands this issue. i also will remind my colleagues on the other side that the situation at the border is not new. it has been ongoing. the border is more secure than it's ever been and so it's really a situation where, let's focus what the issues are, where the real problem is and this administration is doing everything that they can right now to address those root causes and it will be a long-term solution. it doesn't help that the prior

administration basically dismantled the immigration system. they took away programs for lawful immigration and that is making it a greater will cha efrj, but we will continue forward and if you take a look at the budget that the president submitted that affects the values of what we're trying to do. build an immigration system that's fair, that's humane and also secures the border, and we're on track for that. >> you mentioned the previous administration and we know donald trump is planning to tour the u.s.-mexico border later this month with governor greg abbot. do you view this as a stunt or do you think something concrete can come from this visit? >> it's all a stunt. this former president is -- just wants to be in the light and he misses it. this is more of a stunt with governor abbott and it's quite ridiculous, honestly, and i think there's a lot of conversation about whether they can even do this and if it's legal, not to mention a waste of

taxpayer dollars on what we know is an inefficient border wall. if you talk to folks on the ground. we know that modern technology is going to be helpful and addressing those root causes and also making sure they re-open the legal pathways will also help -- let's remember that right now migrants are coming between ports of entry because they're being turned away at the port of entry which is legal. so we are looking forward to seeing title 42, as well. >> you mentioned domestic terrorism and the threat of that, let's get to it with the biden administration rolling out the first national strategy to combat homegrown extremism. it includes calling for more scrutiny of public social media posts and better coordination among security agencies. do you think this could be an effective new strategy? >> absolutely. the first problem is that we weren't putting a focus domestic terrorism under the prior administration. so to see the biden-harris

administration pick up and reiterate the importance and working with law enforcement to basically tell us, hey, this is the biggest threat and we need to do something about it. this administration has come out with a plan and its budget also reflects dollars that will go to that plan, number one and make sure we're preventing and not just reacting and trying to prevent these domestic terrorism events and making sure there is a better system in place to get the threats to the partners and providing grant money on the ground to local state partners and this is an approach that will require all of us to work together, but i am happy to see that this administration is acknowledging and is putting their money with their mouth is on addressing domestic terrorism which is happening right here at home, something that our colleagues on the other side just want to ignore like on january 6th. >> there is one thing the white house did not make a decision or not and that was to seek a new

law fighting domestic terrorism. is that a law that you see changing? >> the administration is still looking at this. i would like to see us have the tool, all tools available necessary so that we can make sure that we never see another january 6th again, and that those that are responsible are held accountable and so if we tweak those laws then we need to do that. >> let me ask you how disturbed you are by the recent reports that the fbi is looking at some of these insurrectionists, those that were there on january 6th in the capitol as potentially having contacts in congress. >> that's very disturbing. unfortunately, i'm not too surprised especially after all of the reports we've seen about members of congress showing up to these rallies, helping organize, helping get people invited there and showing up and currently members of congress

who still think that it was just tourists coming through the capitol. it is very disturbing and those need to be looked into. i don't think we can have members of congress there. i don't think we should have members of congress there who are coordinating with those that are attacking our democracy and putting us in danger and it's super disturbing to me, and i hope they get to the bottom of it. >> california congresswoman, annette barragan, thank you very much for your time. >> can't stop, won't stop. that is mike lindell, the mypillow guy when it comes to talking about the 2020 election. who's listening? that's next. can you spare a few seconds to learn about cold water washing with tide? hi my name is steve. did you know washing in cold can save you $100 a year on your energy bill. why wouldn't you turn to cold? it helps the environment. what? because stone cold said so.

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deeper look at the tycoon turned conspiracy theorist and his quote divine mission to reinstate trump to the presidency. joining me now david, national political correspondent for "politico." it is a heck of an article that you've written so let's get into this. part of what you write, lindell has said that the election will be pulled down and that trump will be back in office by august, something that trump himself has reportedly been telling people. at the my pillow headquarters saying he might be off by maybe september, regardless he offered another firm deadline he's certain of. i will tell you the election is coming down 100% and there will be no machines in 2022. look, he's got the ear david of the former president. i know you spent a lot of time with lindell. does he really believe this is all possible? i think that he's a true believer. and i think even the people who are critical of him, the people who know him in town think that, they think he's wrong, a lot of people, and think that he

genuinely believes this. >> you also write that lindell is also becoming less welcome in some gop circles. last month he was kicked out of a meeting of the republican governors association in nashville, tennessee, to which he had said he had originally been invited. his business has suffered. more than 20 retailers have dropped his product, and dominion voting systems filed a $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit and accused lindell of spreading false accusations that the election was rigged. how much have these election conspiracies and tying himself so closely to trump hurt him? >> well, i think politically, it's been devastating. this is a man who we can laugh now and say it's a pillow salesman out on the prairie talking about a rigged election, but this is a guy who was legitimately considered a contender for public office in minnesota, somebody not unlike trump, or jessy ventura, a businessman, entertainer, who

might have had a shot at the republican nomination, i think no longer is that the case. largely as you point out because of these divisions with more main line republicans. >> well, you said, you know, lindell, you think is a true believer, but he is far from the only one who believes these election conspiracies. you've got polling data that says around two-thirds of republicans believe that trump did not actually lose the election. why is it so hard to accept the truth? >> i think you know, there's something so interesting about conspiracy theories and where we are right now in politics, and i think that it does offer, if you're a republican, for whatever reason, you believe trump, you believe the pastor who said trump couldn't lose, a conspiracy theory that says that he didn't lose is somehow comforting and i think that is comforting both to somebody like mike lindell and also through the people who follow him. so it's a huge number. and really, it's changed the entire complexion of the republican party. you talk to people now and say,

you know, what should republicans do differently in two years? well they say nothing. we did everything right. well, so if you didn't really lose, you don't have to have that self reflection and i think that's what drives a lot of this. >> how far do you think mike lindell is willing to take had? >> as far as a pillow salesman can take it. i think as long as he has money, he will continue to show up at these rallies and organize rallies and you see people mocking the crowd size but there is still a couple thousand people showing up at these rallies and i think he will continue to do that. what's more interesting i think is how far, lindell can take it so far, what i'm interested is how far the kind of ether around him exists so if we get past the midterm elections and let's say republicans take control of the house and the senate which is an entirely reasonable possibility, what happens if you're still at two-thirds of republicans believing that elections are rigged? and what happens then if a democrat wins the presidential

election in 2024? i don't think it's too early to start wondering about the constitutional crises that could arise in three years. >> i want to thank you for the chat and also the quote of the day. as far as a pillow salesman can take this. that's a good one. thank you. coming up next, we show you the ripple effects from a dark day in march and how in lives are lost, a deep void is left behind. are lost, a deep void is left behind clients know we have their backs. (other money manager) how do your clients know that? (naj) because as a fiduciary, it's our responsibility to always put clients first. (other money manager) so you do it because you have to? (naj) no, we do it because it's the right thing to do. we help clients enjoy a comfortable retirement. (other money manager) sounds like a big responsibility. (naj) one that we don't take lightly. it's why our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. fisher investments is clearly different. you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and you need it here.

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since the deadly spa shootings in atlanta, in what is now the defining milestone for modern asian-american civil rights. today, the families of the victims are still grieving and fighting for justice. in an msnbc exclusive, richard lui returned to atlanta to hear their stories firsthand as part of his nbc asian-america documentary. >> she had no family to help. unable to travel from china due to pandemic travel restrictions she would be buried alone without her family. but two strangers, kevin ying and charles lee, stepped in. they treated her like family. >> over 100 people come over, nobody here. >> it was really touching for us to see so many strangers. we had the representative from the korean community and someone actually from washington, d.c., as people who never met ms. fong

before and never knew her before and because they heard what happened over there, they showed up to pay their final respect to a stranger. >> no stranger to fong was her older brother. he worried about his little sister who lived in, to him, a strange land. he says his little sister worked at a young age because after her father died, they needed the money. she did the same now in the u.s. she helped pay for her nephews and niece's education. >> she 100% gave money every day. she is very, very open and positive. so even when they're young, they're living in a farmland, they earn very, very little money, but she was always happy with anything she got. >> when covid restrictions changed, will you come to see your sister?