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hydroelectric powers will shut down for the first time, putting more pressure on an overtaxed power grid as the threat of blackouts looms. on the other side of the country, tropical storm claudette is still pounding parts of the south, causing flooding and a tornado that touched down in southern alabama. >> the worst i have seen in the two years i have been around, but most part, consistent rain on and on. >> a volatile climate, spawning a strange new world of dangerous weather, spreading pain from coast to coast. >> that was nbc's steve patterson reporting. >> at the top of the hour, very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. we begin on capitol hill and a big week for congress as two major pieces of legislation could see major steps forward or remain in limbo. infrastructure and voting rights
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will both be center stage with a potential decision on the for the people act. but tomorrow, we're going to learn details of a bipartisan infrastructure proposal. both democrats and republicans signaling there could be compromise. >> the clear signal they could send is to say yes, let's do it. let's sit down and begin negotiations. we think that just as in the case -- >> one of the concerns that i do have about the bipartisan bill is how they are going to pay for their proposals. and they're not clear yet. i don't know that they even know yet, but some of the speculation is raising a gas tax, which i don't support. a fee on electric vehicles, privatization of infrastructure. those are proposals that i would not support. >> a lot of interest in having a bipartisan proposal. >> new reaction today from the biden administration over news that north korean leader kim jong-un has vowed to be ready for confrontation and dialogue
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with president biden. the remarks are the first directed at biden since the white house detailed how to deal with the threat of pyongyang. >> jake sullivan said the u.s. is and will be ready for a meeting. >> and the contentious democratic primary for new york city mayor is heating up this weekend, certainly. with an uptick in violence across the city becoming a major talking point for the eight leading candidates. we hope to play some video for you that is really disturbing for some viewers. we played it yesterday. at the moment we're having an issue with our tapes, but let me describe this issue. a shooting in broad daylight. it barely miss two young children in the bronx on thursday. a 10-year-old girl helping to walk and shield her 5-year-old brother. it is now a big talking point in the campaign. a bit later on this hour, as we look at this video, watch this for a second. horrifying.
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yeah. it is just horrifying. look at those two little kids trying to scramble out of the way. yeah. been terrible. and that's the topic we'll be talking about regarding the mayoral election in new york city, and we have a primary day on sunday. tuesday, rather, there. so let's go beyond the headlines. we have nbc's monica alba at the white house, scott mcfarland at the capitol for us. where do lawmakers stand, first, on the voting rights bill ahead of tuesday's critical vote? >> there was a flurry of activity in the last couple days. remember, this is something that the white house and the president really wanted to see action on. but there had been such republican opposition, it was unclear just how they were going to be able to do it. but somebody else that was really a democratic holdout was senator joe manchin of west virginia. he finally said that he would be open to a compromise bill, which in effect would unite his party behind something that would make
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adjustments like making election day a federal holiday, would ban partisan gerrymandering, require vote i.d., and allow for at least 15 days of early voting. and that was something that actually got the stamp of approval and endorsement from stacey abrams who had been a leading voice in this battle. so we did see at least that side of the party get behind this. but this procedural vote and motion that's going to take place on tuesday is expected to fail because republicans have already signaled that they're going to sink the measure. so where it goes from here is still unclear. but it's going to be about sending a message and trying to get republicans on the record in voting it down, at least that how democrats are framing it. but take a listen to how both parties talked about it on the sunday shows this morning. >> i appreciate what joe manchin is doing here, trying to find middle ground. unfortunately, what he does is what the larger bill, s-1, does, which it takes the election system in this country and
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federalizes it, so it's a federal takeover of our election system. >> we can disagree on all kinds of issues, but taking away the right of people to participate in american democracy is unacceptable. and the congress must address that in any and every way. >> you heard senator portman there refer to their main issue with the legislation, which is that they don't want the federal government to play a role in voting rights. at least that is the gop position. but remember, amalex, we have been talking about all these laws that have passed on the state level. this would help with that's correct but again, it's not clear how that's going to proceed forward in the senate, and voting rights is now something that has been assigned to vice president kamala harris, and the president really wanted to see something get done, some motion, some progress in the month of june. and we're just days away from that final task here. so that will be something to watch this week, absolutely. >> absolutely. okay, monica alba, thank you from the white house. from there now to investigative reporter scott mcfarland from
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wrc tv in washington. scott has new developments in the capitol riot investigation. welcome to you, scott. what can we expect from some of the hearings? >> very busy and impactful week in the january 6th prosecutions. according to my reporting, there are a series of high profile defendants going to court, trying to get released from the d.c. jail. some of the highest profile defends including thomas webster, retired new york police officer accused of beating a d.c. police officer here on january 6th. also, robert geswine of colorado, accused proud boy, accused of using chemical spray on multiple officers. in a filing yesterday, the feds said what he did january 6th was an act of terrorism. because it was designed to intimidate and to coerce action. there is this growing number of far-right extremist defendants trying to get into court, as the biden administration tries to tackle domestic terrorists. jake sullivan, national security adviser, spoke about that initiative this morning on the
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sunday shows. >> the president authorized a study of domestic terrorism in the united states, a report was released just last week on this issue. the attorney general gave a speech on it. and that collective action that this administration is undertaking on every aspect of this challenge reflects the seriousness with which we take it, and the efforts that we will pursue to insure that the american people are protected against this form of violent extremism and terrorism as with all forms of violent extremism and terrorism. >> a lot of qanon supporters who were allegedly part of january 6th are among those locked up pending trial. that's a big step in the criminal justice system. according to our latest reporting, about 1 in 10 defendants in the insurrection are in pretrial custody, most of them down the road in the d.c. jail, alex. >> scott mcfarland, thank you for that report. appreciate it. joining me now, jason crow, democrat from colorado, and
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former army ranger, and he's a dad, so i want to wish you a happy father's day. thank you so much for taking the time away from family to be with us here. let's get into it here. as you heard, national security adviser jake sullivan addressed the growingthet of qanon. how concerned are you about the warning from the fbi? >> thanks for having me back. always good to be with you. i am very concerned. i think we have to be very honest that we have a growing domestic extremist movement. it's not diminishing. we're not doing what's necessary at the congressional level to deal with it. the biden administration is being aggressive, the justice department is being aggressive. we have the right people within the administration to take this seriously, but we have to make sure we're convening a committee or a commission to take a whole look at january 6th and figure out what exactly happened, why it happened, and we're going to need legislation to deal with this as well.
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>> to the point, as you know last week, the biden administration unveiled this new national strategy for combatting domestic extremism. they're calling for hiring more intelligence analysts, screening government employees for possible ties to hate groups, but it does not go as far as to call for new legal authority. so give me your sense of the administration's approach right now. do you think it's going far enough or is this just one step in the process? >> well, we have been spending the last 20 years looking at threats from outside our borders. now we have this growing extremism from within our borders, so that's a mentality shift, a culture shift, certainly, for law enforcement perspective. the biden administration has a lot on its plate. there's no doubt about that. so it's really, i think, congress' responsibility to have the discussions, to hold the hearings, to have the public engagement, to talk to our constituents about how to do this. i'm somebody to respects greatly our constitution, freedoms of speech. i served in iraq and
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afghanistan. i fought for this country for that constitution and i value those things very dearly. but we also have this growing extremism movement that is dangerous. so we're going to have to have those discussions and those debates to figure out how we address that threat. but do so in a way that's consistent with our values. >> yeah, as you know, the doj has released more video evidence, and at the request of nbc news and other news organizations, but the video we're about to show you shows a former marine and nypd officer charging at police with a flag pole. this is hard to watch, but take a look. >> that behavior, again, from a former marine and former nypd
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officer. i'm curious your reaction to that, especially when you think of how 21 of your republican colleagues voted against a bill last week to honor january 6th first responders. >> well, for donald trump's most ardent enablers within congress, it's never been about supporting law enforcement. it's never been about rule of law. it's never been about public safety and order and it never will be. it's always about supporting blindly without question donald trump. and that's what makes those folks dangerous right now, because they're not -- they don't have an obligation to the constitution and the country, but a lot of people will. i have also given a lot of thought to the fact there were military, law enforcement that were in that riot, that were members of that insurrection. and obviously, you know, i was trapped in the gallery for a while during that day. >> yeah. >> i often thought, i have given a lot of introspection as to how
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my path diverged so much from the paths of the others. two veterans, both who have taken oaths and raised their right hands end up on opposite sides of the door on january 6th. the best answer i can come up with is the pervasive misinformation, the conspiracy theories, how it's gripped certain people. there's elements of racism and white supremacy involved here as well, but we have to do something about disinformation. >> would you include your colleague congressman andrew clyde, the man who, again, very notably described the riot as being just a normal tourist day, but he's the gentleman who refused to meet with, shake the hand of officer fanone, who was brutally injured on that day. he turned his back on him as he was saying, will you shake my hand, sir? i don't know who you are, he said. this is according to the congressman, how he responded. michael fanone, he told him who he was and pulled out the cell
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phone and hopped in an elevator as soon as he could. >> yeah, i don't really know andrew clyde. i'm not friends with him. he's not an acquaintance. i haven't spent much time talking to him and i don't expect i will. he is not somebody who lives rent-free in my head and i don't spend time thinking about him, but he's one example of several of people who will turn their back on law enforcement. there were police officers that died that day and in the days after, 140 were brutally beaten. i remember very clearly, i have gotten very close to a lot of those officers, actually, and i kept in touch with them. i called one the day after the riot, and he was just covered in bruises. was limping around the capitol complex. he came into work. he broke down into tears, saying i feel like i let you down. i said, no, you did not let me down. i'm proud of you. it's just been so hard for these officers. and they need our support. they need our encouragement.
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and they need some confidence to continue to do their job, because it's a very difficult situation with that force right now. and incidents like mr. clyde and others do not help. >> speaking of support, i know this is something you're passionate about. you and some of your colleagues in the house introduced that bill to protect the afghan interpreters who supported the u.s. for years and are now fearing for their lives. as we begin to withdraw the troops from afghanistan, jake sullivan did talk about this this morning. let's take a listen. >> paramount priority for president biden and for the entire team. we are processing these applications and getting people out at a record pace. we are working with congress right now, including the two representatives you just mentioned, to actually streamline some of the requirements that slow this process down. and we're doing the kind of extensive planning for potential evacuations should that become necessary. we will take all of these steps to insure that we do right by the people who did right by us. >> so congressman crow, are they
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taking care of this fast enough to your liking? >> well, it is certainly encouraging to hear that from jake sullivan. i know jake sullivan. he's rar man of character and integrity. he takes is seriously, as to other members of the national security council and the dod, and we're working with them to expedite the program, but i think some of the divergence in opinion right now is that this withdrawal that's going very fast, we're about half complete at this point. i think we'll be substantially done by the end of july if not sooner, this is not an all or nothing proposition in terms of evacuation. i think we could start it now because as soon as we don't have our troops there, and we don't have the logistics we currently have in place, it becomes much, much harder to do. so waiting has a cost. we believe very firmly that evacuation should start now.
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because we're not going to have the time and capability we have now later. >> can you articulate what the cost is by waiting? >> just lives. i mean, there's just no other way to put it. there are 18,000 sib applications right now. we think there's tens of thousands of others who are civic society leaders, women who have led women's rights issues and other who don't even qualify for the program who are at risk. we have to do this before it becomes a crisis. once it's a crisis, it becomes very hard to do. we have an opportunity, a window now to save lives of people who have stood by us and done great work. we have a moral obligation to do so. we're going to debate afghanistan for decades to come. we're going to debate the missteps, the things that went right, the things that went wrong. we'll have that debate. but what i do know to be true is that the next couple months, there is honor to have in standing by people who stood by
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dozens of republican-led states are fighting to keep critical race theory out of schools, but now that fight has moved to capitol hill. wisconsin gop congressman glen grauthm introduced a bill that would ban the curriculum in washington, d.c. schools and senator ted cruz this week using his time at the conservative faith and freedom conference to blast the idea of schools teaching the subject. >> critical race theory says america's fundamentally racist. critical race theory seeks to
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turn us against each other. and if someone has a different color skin, seeks to make us hate that person. and let me tell you right now, critical race theory is bigoted, it is a lie, and it is every bit as racist as klansmen in white sheets. >> that last part, pretty stunning. joining me now is shavar jefferies, president of democrats for education reform. welcome to you, and thank you, because i know you're a father. let me get your reaction to the comments from senator cruz. he used the argument that we hear from many republicans, that teaching critical race theory is divisive. what is your response to that? and his claim, again, that last point, that it is every bit as racist as the klansmen in white sheets? >> it's just another example of the mostly hyperbolic rhetoric. it's important to be clear about
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what critical race theory is because there's been a misrepresentative of what it is. critical race theory is a doctrine that a series of legal scholars proposed two decades ago recognizing that not only law schools but our colleges and k-12 institutions weren't teaching the ways in which race and white supremacy was embedded into the very foundational legal documents of our country. the united states supreme court in the dred scott decision gave the best primer of the reality. these are empirical facts. the united states supreme court dred scott surveying the legal status of black people and the founding of the country in the constitution and in the legal regime that prevailed in our country in the first half of the 19th century, the united states supreme court said black people were beings of an altogether inferior order who could be reduced to slavery for their benefit and had no fights that the white man had to respect. so there were no legal rights,
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no rights. after the civil war and the promulgation of the reconstruction, the united states supreme court continued in the civil rights case of 1883 and said the reconstruction only applies to discrimination from the government. the private seconder, employers didn't want to hire black people, when banks didn't want to give loans to people because they were black, if a hospital didn't want to serve people because they were black, they could do that. even in the governmental sphere, in the plessy gase, the united states supreme court said you could continue to discriminate against black people as long as they were separate and equal. they were never equal, but they were separate. why were they separate. because of the regime that said that black people were not people. they were beings of an inferior order. that's the reality of the legal status of black people in this country until the late 1960s. critical race theory says you can't teach law if you don't deal with the facts and the ways in which race and white spremary
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have been embedded into our legal foundation. >> a very wonderful definition there, and something that goes deep into history and a scholarly appeal here. when you listen to the likes of a ted cruz, you know, we have msnbc.com opinion columnist kevin cruise, writes ted cruz's erroneous definition of critical race theory explains white america and the senator is apparently confused about critical race theory and the kkk. i'm assuing you agree with that. i mean, in terms of today's society, how do you define critical race theory and how do republicans in general get it wrong? >> well, people like senator cruz, they're part of what has also been a long tradition. a lawn tradition of deniers when it comes to the realities of racism and white supremacy, even in the slavery period. there were people who said black people enjoy being enslaved. some people claimed slavery
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wasn't as comprehensive as it was. in the jim crow period, there were arguments jim crow wasn't what it was. so senator cruz is part of this long tradition of denying the realities of race in this country and even more, exploiting racism for political purposes. that's what he is doing here. the idea that the klan, the klan lynched black people. the klan participated in initiative race riots that murdered black people. the idea that teaching the reality of the ways in which racism is embedded into the foundational legal infrastructure of our country is equivalent to those who committed murder is literally absurd. >> shavar jefferies, we're having an issue with your audio. that said, it's clear why you're the president of democrats for education reform. we want to thank you for the time and the education you gave all of us. thank you. >> in a moment, a rallying cry for voting and taking freedom
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in just a few hours, demonstrators will gather outside the texas capitol in austin to support the for the people voting rights act. which the u.s. senate, of course, plans to vote on this week. let's go to josh lederman right there joining us from austin. josh, welcome. i know you spoke with beto o'rourke ahead of the rally today. what all did he tell you? >> well, alex, it was just a few weeks ago here in texas that democrats narrowly averted letting that restrictive voting law become law under texas governor greg abbott, who is now threatening to bring it back in a special session. and this is happening all over the country, with already this year, 14 states adopting restrictive voting laws, many in the works in other states. that's why beto o'rourke says that it's so important to make sure that these protections are codified in federal law and that
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the whole country should be paying close attention to what's happening here in texas. take a listen. >> this is the front lines. if we can stop it here in texas, ground zero, in the fight for voting rights, then i believe we're be able to stop tin other states and i believe we can inspire and maybe compel the u.s. senate to do their part and pass voting rights legislation like the for the people act. >> and just a few hours here in austin, beto o'rourke, julian castro, and others will be holding this rally in support of the for the people act. their goal is to show support, send a message to washington about the importance of passing that act as it gets ready for a vote in the senate on tuesday. but even if all democrats are onboard with that legislation, alex, it is almost assured to face debt by filibuster in the senate with mitch mcconnell saying no republicans will vote for it. unclear what will happen after that, but democrats here in
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texas saying it's important to keep up that fight. >> i was going to say, beto o'rourke not going to be deterred by that. thank you so much, josh. >> and new this weekend, a federal judge in florida rules the cdc cannot enforce covid restrictions on cruise ships beginning in july. let's go to garrett who is joining me from miami to talk about this. let's talk about this decision. tell me more, gary, and how would cruise ships handle unvaccinated passengers as they go forward? >> hey there, alex. it's been 15 months, but in a few hours, the freedom of the seas will be taking to the seas. it's not without a little controversy. there is the federal judge who said the cdc cannot enforce what is happening to cruise ships. it means the required mandated test cruise, simulation voyage that is happening this weekend, but it is still happening by royal caribbean. what they're doing is asking and having volunteers, 600 royal caribbean employees, take a
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cruise for three days and two nights to the bahamas and to cape cay, and they're also doing a bit of a simulated voyage. this is an opportunity for the cdc and royal caribbean to see what works, what doesn't work, and see what can be better before their sold-out voyage on july 2nd. you mentioned the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated folks on the cruise. there's a consensus if you're vaccinated, cruise ships, totally safe to go on. go for it. if you're unvaccinated, it's risky, but cruise lines are ready. here's what folks from royal caribbean had to say. >> we started to plan overall the comeback since we were shut down. so we have planned for many, many, many months. of course, the evolution of knowledge on covid have changed over time, so we have been very adaptable to changing the plan and so forth, but we have planned this for many, many months. >> and alex, as we get into this
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post-covid era, things are going to be different. as you know with a lot of things, there's an app for that. cruises, there's an app for that. everything from restervations on restaurants here, to a safety drill so you know what a horn sounds like, can be done on an iphone so they're not crowding people in small spaces on the cruise ship. but back to the unvaccinated versus vaccinated thing. regardless of that, they're sold out through october. alex. >> going to be interesting to see what experience comes for those 600 volunteers. thank you so much, gary. >> adam schiff wants a much deeper dive into what the trump justice department was up to, and that's next. and that's next. feeling sluggish or weighed down? it could be a sign that your digestive system isn't working at it's best taking metamucil everyday can help. metamucil psyllium fiber, gels to trap
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new reaction today to the trump justice department's secretly seizing electronic and phone records belonging to members of congress. politico reports that democrats want to untrump the doj fast. here's what house intelligence committee chair adam schiff said earlier today about being a target of the secret subpoenas. >> this is something i found out from apple a month ago, and that's one issue, one from apple and not the justice department about what had gone on in the last four years. the inspector general is doing an investigation. i talked with the attorney general about going beyond that. i think he really needs to do a wholesale review of all of the plitatizization of the department in the last four years. what happened to our committee, what happened to members of the
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press. >> and joining me now iseugene daniels, coauthor of "playbook." good to see you. adam schiff there says he wants an investigation of the last four years. is that realistic? i mean, how feasible is that at this point? >> it's difficult. a lot happened in the justice department over the last four years. but you can even hear and see from merrick garland and even president biden this is something that they are very interested in. maybe not the last four years, but specifically these new revelations and any other ways that trump politicized the doj. and it seems like went against people who were his political rivals. things that we haven't seen in this country before. so those are the issues that they're working through. obviously, congress wants to do some investigations. the inspector general for the doj is also going to have its own investigation. so all of these things at some point are going to come out. and we might get to know,
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there's been a lot of talk about how much pressure the doj felt under trump to do certain things like this. we were told by barr that politico was told by barr he was never told by president trump to do these things. he was never told, he never told trump about these investigations. but also, we know that president trump talked about this a lot. he talked about the kinds of people that he wanted to be investigated. so he didn't really have to tell them because he was tweeting a lot. >> not like he had to say specifically, go do this. just the way he communicated certainly was open to interpretation, to go do this. the idea of untrumping, if you will, the doj, beyond the inspector general's investigation you mentioned there, how much power does attorney general garland have to clean house? >> i mean, he has to be careful here. because he can't now be seen as being political. so he is going to have to make this balance of making sure and
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bringing back, and he's talked about this since he was nominated. bringing back the independence, and that's why he and president biden have been very clear about what they're not doing, which is discussing investigations. they are making sure that there's a wall between the two -- between the doj, the white house, and the administration. and so i think that he is interested in doing that. i don't know if untrump sg the way he would put it. that's the way it has been put to us, but more what he's interested in is making sure people have faith in the doj again, and the people in the doj feel like they're not being attacked by the executive branch. so there's a lot of work to be done on that part. >> for sure. you know, we are expecting eugene, a showdown over voting rights in the senate. do you see this playing the way democrats are hoping it will, or is there a greater risk when republicans vote it down, they can then spin that as a destreet for the president's agenda? >> i think they're going to, republicans are going to spin it as some kind of defeat, but you hear a couple things. for people who want to reform
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the filibuster, what they tell us is this is exactly what they want. to bring up some big high-profile democratic priorities to the floor, and then have republicans have to filibuster. what that does is the creates a frustration among these moderate democrats who so far have been unwilling to talk about filibuster reform or getting rid of the filibuster very publicly, though they do talk about it privately to us sometimes. so i think that is what they're hoping, that there's going to be all this evidence that something has to happen that according to these reformists that it's not working. what's happening right now is not working. that's something they're looking forward to, even though they want this bill to pass, because everybody knows it's not going to happen. everyone knows this is a bill that's going to go down, and that's why the biden administration has tasked vice president harris with some of this. they're going to look at this from different angles. she met with some of the 16 of the texas lawmakers who walked out so they couldn't have a forum in texas over the voting
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restriction bill there. they're working at this on a lot of different fronts. and that is something that when you talk to administration officials, that's what they want to make clear. on voting rights, they know they can't do a lot from the executive branch when it comes to legislation. they can pressure people, they can do those things, but they're also working to look at other executive orders that the president could sign, one of the things the doj could do, so there's a lot of work. >> before i let you go, i want to ask you about this excerpt from michael bender's book about trump's decision last year to hold a rally on juneteenth. he writes, trump said to one confidante y have done all this stuff for the blacks, it's always jared telling me to do this, and they all f'ing hate me and none of them are going to vote for me. you're in tulsa when trump held that rally. what's your takeaway on the new details? >> after all those years of
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president trump and other reporting and revelations coming out about these things and how he is, he views the world as transactional. right? and so that wasn't surprising. and i think you talk to advocates and activists and even republicans, they say the same thing. this is not something that was surprising. i was untulsa with president trump on that trip. i was also in tulsa when president biden was there. they are very different visits. and you know, that caused an uproar, and some of the activists and folks in tulsa, people whose families died or survived the race massacre, they said his visit gave them a jump to really do more and to be louder, and they had bigger juneteenth celebrations than they had in a long time because they knew he was coming, though he did move his date to the 20th instead of the 19th, but his being there and talking about it was something that riled them up. and so i think that's the thing
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that you continue to hear, is that former president trump is going to continue to be someone, one, because he's the leader of the republican party, and when it comes to issues of race, he's going to continue to be someone that gets people riled up on both sides. and more importantly, gives activists more fuel to get some of the things done that they want to do. and before i go, i want to say happy father's day to all of the dads, especially my father, my namesake. happy father's day. >> a beautiful thing to say. and the rest of it also made great sense as well. eugene daniels, thank you. politico's white house correspondent and msnbc analyst. >> why what happens in new york city this week should matter to the entire country. that's next. a bit later on, the two words more people are saying to their bosses and why that could be a big problem. i'm steven, i'm 52, and i'm a makeup artist. i met my husband in 2002. i miss those eyes. do you think you could fall in love again?
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new york city merrillal primary, violence in the nation's largest city is taking center stage. we will warn you, the video we are about to show you is disturbing. a 5-year-old little boy and hiss 10-year-old sister caught in the crossfire as a funman, an assassin fired repeatedly at higgs target this. happened in the bronx on sunday. the children were not injured. the shooting victim is expected to survive, he was shot in his back and legs. the suspect remains on the loose. joining me now, laura -- welcome to you. this video stopped me in my tracks when i first saw it. it is just one example from a string of vie lens in new york city over the last several months. how important is crime to voters right now and to the candidates at this stage of the race? >> i think it is absolutely the top issue at this moment in the
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new york city mayoral primary election. it has been growing in importance over the past few months. and now, in several polls, voters have said that they believe it is their top issue, right up there with the economy. and it has dominated the conversation on the trail in the last few weeks with some of these daylight shooting incidents, and the death of a little boy in queens, i believe, a 10-year-old boy. it's taken center stage in a way that i don't think anyone expected at the beginning of the primary contest. >> yeah. that death was tragic. i believe it was a drive bigang-related shooting. they are all awful. and this particular one, this 5-year-old boy, his 10-year-old sister scrambling. it is a miracle they were not hit. when it comes to eric adams, i know he posted his own personal reward in this shooting case vowing to keep all the city streets safe. do you see that as giving him leg up in the primary at this
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point? >> definitely. eric adams is a former n.y.p.d. captain and state senator from brooklyn. he built a reputation as a police reformer in the '90s, and someone who spoke out against the excesses of the giuliani administration, and his police department. but he is now taking a tacks that seen -- tack that is seen as conservative among democrats when it comes to tackling crime. he is not talking about defunding the police although that is a broad term. he's someone who wants to use policing to tackle the gun crime problem that we have. all the candidates do to a certain extent, but he has so much credibility on this because of his backgrounds as a former police officer. >> i know that one of the adams'
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biggest competitors is maya wiley, recently endorsed by alexandria ocasio cortez. she wants to reallocate a sum of the police department budget to social services. people would call that defunding the police. but it is just details on how to reallocate the money. how are voters reacting to the proposals? >> it depends which voters you are talking to. i think there is a very real conversation thing. i believe that maya wiley and eric adams firmly believe what they are saying to the electorate that their method for tackling crime is the best. and there is a conversation among democrats i think across the country about what is the best way to tackle gun violence. is it some combination of more aggressive policing, precision policing, plus the groups like
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violence interrupters who have credibility with people who might be picking up guns and shooting each other. but they -- they are both essentially talking about the same thing, in a way. wiley and adams are talking about finding ways to stop the cycle of violence. >> uh-huh. >> because the gun violence is cyclical. it is -- gun violence begets gun violence. so many of the people who pick up guns and use them are themselves or have seen their families be victims of gun violence. it is something that spreads like an epidemic. and you are trying to break that cycle and break it off. >> i want to get to a politico poll that shows adams leading the pack. do you think adams is the front-runner at this point? i wanted to ask about andrew yang. he was the front reasoner for time but this past weekend he was campaigning with another
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candidate, catastrophe rip garcia. >> yeah. the polling has been all over the place. there hasn't been as much as we have seen in previous primary election cycles. but eric adams has been at the front of the pack the whole time, or close to the front of the pack, with andrew yang. i think as the crime, the issue of crime grows more prominent in the race, he has scan dated some of that energy. you will notice even in that poll he only has 24% of the vote. and under the city's new rank choice voting system if no candidate gets above 50% of the electorate, then it is -- other people -- people's second votes matter. that is why yang had been campaigning with garcia, vying for people's second-placed votes. >> this rank choice voting is going to be -- we will see how that goes. complicated to say the least.
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it's a huge change for american workers. the "new york times" reports more and more employees are saying, i quit, likely because of the pandemic. let's go out to nbc's erin mclaw lip, clearly not quitting her job. she's joining us from pasadena, california. i am curious why you have people making this move, and why now?
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>> it's a staggering amount of people making this move. some 3.9 million in the month of april alone. that is a 20-year high. according to one microsoft survey, 41% of people worldwide are considering resigning. that number goes up to 54% for the next generation, gen z. and experts are pointing to a variety of reasons, from burnout, especially those front line essential workers who worked so hard during the pandemic to some folks simply not wanting to go back to the office. take a listen. >> as humans, we have a fundamental need for autonomy and freedom. and a lot of us got to experience remote work or hybrid work and the flexibility and freedom that goes along with it for the first time during the pandemic. and the pandemic has lasted for 18 months. and so that's enough time for many of us to get used to that, that autonomy. and one interesting anecdote or
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