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anyone's progress. the ben & jerry's, sometimes the night before, i started it and then ifinished the carton. >> i wish could i do that. i just finish it all. >> thank you very much. have a wonderful rest of your evening. good evening. we have a lot to get to on this busy monday. in a little while, i'll speak with beto o'rourke about what's going on in texas where a republican governor is pushing opposition to critical race theory in an effort to churn up outrage among the republican voters. democrats in washington plan to go forward with a major voting rights bill this week but with not a lot of specifics about what happens next. we begin "the reidout" with what is looking more and more like a major intelligence failure on the part of the fbi ahead of the january 6th insurrection. the bureau had not seen any actionable intelligence that a
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mob would descend on capitol hill. a new court filing seems to contradict that. nbc's ken dilanian reports, it was acknowledged in february, a february investigative report, that angry trump supporters were talking openly in the days before the siege about bringing guns to the capitol to start a revolution. the fbi document doesn't say where the fbi's review of social media posts were conducted before or after january 6th. but if the fbi didn't know about the social media post, what exactly were they doing? if they did know, why didn't they take any action to warn anyone? the fbi has charged 40 individuals with using deadly or dangerous weapons or causing serious bodily injury to officers. the fbi has arrested around 465 people so far in question, the insurrection and we're continuing to learn more and more from their court hearings. this morning, hunter palm pled
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not guilty to charges including violent entry and disorderly conduct on capitol grounds. the fbi provided screen shots from a video he nook which he's seen approaching a laptop in the speaker's conference room, announcing who is good at hacking? he later put his feet up on the table saying, i think i like my new dining room. i pay for it. we are learning about another defendant ryan samsel is charged with knockinging a police officer unconscious. he appeared in court today seeking a jail transfer. he has past convictions for holding against her will, choking to unconsciousness as well as choking and beating his pregnant girlfriend. nbc 4 washington investigative reporter clint watts, former fbi special agent and nat national security analyst, and charlie sikes, editor at large and nbc columnist. scott, i want to start with you. you've been doing some great
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reporting. i've been watching you on other shows. bring us up to date on these reports on violent individuals, including the man with his feet on the speaker's desk and this other man who seems to be extremely violent toward women. >> the latest man charged with having his feet up on the desk. he is the second of two. and there are untold number of defendant who's either mentioned, threatened or used vulgar terms. let's start with the other defendant who's have mysogyny at the root of their cases. ryan samsel. he is accused not only of knocking a female police officer unconscious, but they say he's done so on multiple occasions and been convicted of it. bind from minnesota is in court tomorrow. defense says not only did he not go for a police officer on january 6th but they say in
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2009, he held a gun to the heads of children. when a woman intervened to try to stop him, they say he assaulted the woman. he used a five-letter vulgarity, threatening her. you see this repetition and this pattern, joy. where mysogyny and this treatment of women is the root or the ant seedent. >> we're not saying any of these people are members of organizations but is there a strain of mysogyny that goes i know what what can be called racism, anti-black feeling, feeling that people of color are not legitimate voters, what do you think that mysogyny is creeping up in these prosecutions? >> it's been going on for several years and it really mixes with what i call online extremists which get together in these forums and they hate
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everything except for white men. you can really lump them all together. if they find one thing they don't like, they tend to find another. in a lot of the white supremacist forums, it is almost always a mysogynist group that has in cell. they all mash up together and rile each other up. it is not surprising. when you look at this moment across the board, whether it is in the online space or the proud boys, proud girls, you will find there is a lot of mysogyny in the ranks of these extreme. is. >> and to dig a little bit into that. we've seen that same behavior pop up in mass shootings. the demographic profile with these groups. we've had the fbi working proactively to try to get inside of extremist groups that could cause violence at other times. does it surprise that you they
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seem to be so unprepared if these online groups had this online chatter and were declare, and a former president declared they would all converge on the capitol. does it surprise you? >> in terms of the capitol, they don't see themselves protecting the capitol in that they are a domestic response forceful it gets confused about the fbi countries around the country as in new york city. in terms of scale, i think people get a distorted view from television and movies that there is an fbi agent on every corner. in terms of online space as well, almost everything is an online sort of association. and the businessest impediment for the fbi or department of homeland security, to go to social media and try to detect the supremism as if there's no domestic terrorism law. if this were an al qaeda or isis inspired movement, you would
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have seen enormous triggers that would have set off agents running in all corners of the united states. you would have seen also nope involved in helping or assisting people get to a violent event would be charged with material support. all of that falls away. it leaves the fbi always in a reactive posture. you see this even in the intel reports. we're nervous that we're watching protected free speech because we don't know where the line is for violence. you see director wray talking about policing violence. it is about two strides inside the capitol where that goes from freedom of assembly to i'm going to try to kill. >> the other thing that is unsaid, thud transition going from the trump administration to the biden administration. it feels like a reluctance to have any sort of forceful presence with trump supporters. let me talk about that. there is the politics.
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you can't disentangle them. here's ron johnson, a big apologist from these people that he hid from on january 6th. here he is lying about whether or not they were an armed threat. >> they talk about thousands of armed insurrectionists. i asked the fbi, not one 21 was recovered. either in the capitol or the grounds. that is just one of the latest big lies. >> i mean, the prosecution will prove him wrong. so why do you think he continues to try to make this pretense work? >> well, i just heard a phrase. the science fiction writer used the phrase, contact lunacy. i think a lot of these folks may not have been crazy before this began but they've had so much contact with it that has driven them over the edge. i don't have another explanation. or ron johnson.
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following the reporting, following what's happening, know how violent this was. to continue to deny it is amazing. you raise an interesting question about the politics. earlier today, i looked at some of my notes about the run-up to january 6th and i was really struck by how easy it was to know that something bad was going to happen. there was a major stop the steal rally in washington, d.c. on november 14th that turned violent. there were protests the night before that turned violent. the president was urging people to come in saying, this will be wild. i have no background in this but i'm seeing social media and i'm seeing what people are saying about the insurrection, about the need to storm the capitol about, the need to spill the blood of tyrants. this was happening in plain sight. i don't know what was going on but it was a massive intelligence failure. one of the things that we didn't
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know before january 6th, before january 20th, was whether or not the president was going to fire the fbi director. there were a lot of folks who wanted him to fire chris wray. was he looking over his shoulder knowing if he was more forceful about this, if he did raise the alarm, he might be out of a job? that's certainly possible. and that's another reason we need another january 6th commission. only something like that, we'll get to the truth, these very dramatic signals were missed and ignored. >> i have another question for you. i was hearing the same thing. every law enforcement friend i have, every person was saying be careful. don't be in d.c. around january 6th. i was hearing that and i'm here talking on tv and everyone understood that something bad was going to happen. i can only imagine if black
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lives matter activists were saying that, even they're going to be somewhere, they're going to protest peacefully somewhere. the amount of armament there. the. a tanks there, the amount of police there, unmarked police throwing people into cars. just because black lives matter says they're coming somewhere. it is hard to accept that there's nothing anyone in law enforcement could do. >> i think the challenge was the boss was the one leading the charge. he was on the lawn that day and said let's go to the capitol. that really did slow everything down. if you look at the defense department. that was because of the disaster that happened last summer and the previous summer during the black lives matter protests. they didn't want to get caught in that jam before. for director wray, he was probably trying to avoid being fired in the final days until the inauguration because separate from this, there was russian interference and the election which was the top priority for the fbi in terms foreign interference. they were very concentrated on
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that. we tend to forget in the days leading up to the actual election day, the fbi had the broken up michigan militia plot against governor whitmer and they did have several arrests. it was a very dangerous one at the. this again goes to the point of, if you have job line mobs stirring each other up. the arab spring caught everyone by surprise ten years ago. or this one where you see everybody rallying at the capitol, you have to build a system where you can talk about it and detect it. this will be a huge battle on capitol hill. when you listen to holley, he was asking dr. wray, under what auspices were you getting cell phone records for people that have already broken into the capitol? so from his perspective, i think he's trying to balance the tide. ultimately, we have to decide what do we let the fbi watch on
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social media? >> and ahead of the problems, being told to stay away from d.c. scott, you've reported before about some of the questions being asked about whether or not people had connections or were having conversations with political figures. with elected officials. do you know whether name like ron johnson, name like josh holley have come up? >> we know the questions are being asked. we got our hands on the retired new york police officer accused of beating a d.c. police officer january 6th. and they asked him. do you have any connections to far right groups, proud boys, 3 percenters. do you know any messages of congress or any congressional staff? such a pivotal question. the response from him is no. but i'll add this. the allegations laid out by federal prosecutors were quite
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unequivocal. this was an armed insurrection. by my count, at least three defendants were carrying in the mob, according to prosecutors that day. that doesn't count according to the pipe bombs at the rnc and dnc. >> it remains fascinating. we called ron johnson's name. let's show you what he was up to over juneteenth weekend. he decided after having initially blocked the juneteenth bill in terms of making it a holiday, that he would show up and here's the reception he got. charlie, can you get your head around why he would show up to that? >> it didn't go well. maybe he was hoping the people wouldn't know that he was the one senator who had held up the holiday for one year.
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he did that single handedly. so it took a good deal to show up for the holiday that he had been standing in the school house door blocking for all those months. shouldn't have been surprised that he was going to get that reception. he showed up. thank you all very much. still ahead, republicans nationwide are drooling over a virtual feast of cultural outbreak being served up by texas governor greg abbott. i'll talk with beto o'rourke next. then a behind the scenes push to pack all that outregion into a big old box labeled critical race theory. the woman who coined that phrase will join me. and big showdowns on capitol hill as democrats push for voting rights protections and infrastructure spending. also, american tourists, guantanamo bay and one of the dumbest things a president has
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this will be a major week for voting rights in washington. tomorrow senate will vote on whether to move forward to debating before the people act. in recent weeks, texas has been the center of the voting battle and governor greg abbott took break from feasting on culture wars. he vetoed the state legislature as punishment for texas democrats who stood together to block state's draconian bill. in just the last week, abbott has been almost singularly focused on feeding the gop rage machine. he signed a law banning critical race theory from being caught in public school, a thing that isn't happening anywhere. another one outlawed abortion in
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texas if roe vers wade is being overturned. all of that as telephonans broiled under record heat and the electrical grid operator asked residents who didn't have heat during a freak winter storm to conserve air conditioning. instead of fixing the grid, governor anti-pledged to build the border wall pledging texas taxpayers' money and having the nerve to ask for donations on top of that to pay for it. why? because he's up for re-election next year. politico says he thinks he is protecting himself from a challenge from the right and putting himself in the mix for the 2024 presidential election. that is if the disgraced twice impeached former president touring the border doesn't run. meanwhile,ability plans to revisit the voter suppression bill. last night, beto o'rourke
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rallied more than 1,000 people for the drive for democracy tour across the state to push for federal voting legislation. and joining me now, beto o'rourke, 2020 presidential candidate. thank you for being here. always a pleasure to talk to you. so lay out the stakes. it seems to me that the smapgs for all the stuff you see governor abbott doing and lots of other legislators and governors, they're trying to gin up outrage strictly to get out the vote. this is all about getting the base out by throwing dr. seuss at them and then mr. potato head and now critical race theory. the question in texas, is that a workable strategy for abbott? >> you're absolutely right. they're trying to distract us while they steal elections and the very democracy that we should be fighting so hard to protect and expand. texas is already the toughest state in the country in which to vote. hundreds of polling places,
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racial gerrymandering, they want to make it harder for those big cities to vote, harder for black voters to cast a ballot. harder for the disabled. there is a provision in the sb 7 election bill that the governor supports that would allow texas on overturn elections based on the allegation of fraud. you saw how hard rudy giuliani tried to overturn elections in pennsylvania and georgia and michigan and they're still maybe recounting the votes in arizona. texas can have a law, a statute that would allow this state to overturn elections in the future. we have to stay focused on this and fight back. that fight now has to be in the united states senate where we need the for the people act to become law. it protects us against these forms of voter suppression and it expands access to the ballot box for eligible voters by the tens of millions. through automatic voter registration, same day voter
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registration, making election day national holiday. all of these very popular across the country, and republicans as well. this is the thing to do to save democracy in texas. ? if you could have a conversation, and it isn't just joe manchin. from what we're hearing, it is probably eight, nine, ten of them don't want to do this. this would tap into the dark moan that politicians get. there is a lot of pushback against that and a lot of punishment out there whipping around for anyone who goes after that dark money. if you could have a conversation with them, given what is happening with your state, what would you say to the joe manchins and the anonymous others who oppose s-1? >> i would talk to them about what they do like. to really consider whether we
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want corporations and the very wealthy to have this kind of political power to purchase the outcomes of elections and legislation which is what we have now. the provisions in the for the people pact would make it harder for super pacs to coordinate, elevate the role of every day citizens in financing campaigns and diminish that in corporations and mega donors is how we get our democracy back. i remind them, so many have given so much including their lives for this democracy. those who served in uniform and died fighting fascism a half a world away to preserve at home, or those people, dying years ago for trying to register people to vote in mississippi. so we inherited all that service and that struggle. we make the most of it or we squander it. failing to pass the for the people act would squander that. we might use the 245-year-old
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experiment on american democracy. i think it is that existential and that important. and they need to hear from all of us. as stacey abrams has encouraged us to do, we have to call them. light up the switch boards and let them know. the first vote takes place tomorrow and it is a critically important one. we need the make sure that every one of them is on record. >> texas feels like our future, our dark future. because you've already off the grid literally when it comes to energy provided to your citizens, it is all up to these private corporations, whether people freeze to death or boil in their homes. you have open gun legislation. you can carry guns in mental health hospitals and everywhere else. and you've just had your governor, he vetoed a bill that would stop people from chaining up their dogs all day in the yard. i know what it is with these republicans and disliking dogs.
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it seems pretty dark. are you planning on trying to mount a bid to replace him? the other options, i have to tell you, beto o'rourke, the other options are scary. i lived in florida. allan west, who said you need to take your muskets to washington. you've got matthew mcconaughey maybe. are you going to run? are you going to try to bring some sanity to your governor's mansion? >> this fight that we're in right now for the right to vote and saving our democracy is the most important. i want to make sure that i'm focused on that. i think we have this summer to get it right. it is all on the lien right now. and the other thing, if you have the level of voter suppression envisioned in the elections bill here in texas, it might not matter who your candidate is. the deck will be so stacked.
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the odds will be so long. the playing field so tilted. so let's get free and fair elections. if we do that, i do want to consider how i can best serve this state. as a candidate or registering voters or supporting others. my focus will be public service. right now that means, fighting for the right to vote and working with others who do the same. >> thank you for saying that. it is not a given that we'll be a democracy five or even two years from now. people need to wake up tom. thank you for being in this fight. meanwhile, do you think your taxes are too high? blame critical race theory. a seasonal uptick many illegal migration? clearly, critical race theiry. you don't like lima beans and somebody serves you lima beans? damnu critical race theory! crity nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard.
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. some of you may be wondering, what is the zeal with the gop freakout over critical race theory? it is everywhere. it was even used as a gop call to arms at a conservative christian conference last week. >> the old marxism used economics to gain control. the new marxism, the new marxism uses identity politics. and the result looks nothing like america. there's no reason to believe that this new marxism will result in anything but what the old marxism did. >> critical race theory is racism. pure and simple. it should be rejected by every american of every race. >> let me tell you right now, critical race theory is bigoted, it is a lie and every bit as racist as the klansmen in white
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sheets. >> here's the thing. none of this is random. this is result of a highly manufactured strategy created by seasoned political operatives looking for the perfect wedge issue to take back power. to combat the energy of the multiracial coalition that took georgia and something to replace blue lives matter since january 6th exposed that slogan as a sham. conservatives in congress took note and started chattering which was then ingested into the feeder system of fox news. the tag line disseminated and the war against critical race theory took off. no one wants a boogie man near their kids and certainly not in their charms. the operatives know this. those fears got played up. now i know what the fears of trans kids taking over, talking about critical la that they believe teaches white kids they are racist. none of this is actually happening but who cares about a
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little old thing like the truth when you have the perfect buzz word for 2022. it even has the magic word in it. race. joining me now, kimberly crenshaw, co-founder and executive director, the legal scholar who coined the term. chris race theory. so it is your fault, madam. i tripped over the cush this morning. critical race theory! damn you! and you need to stop with the cicada race theory. i just wrote back a few of the notes what people are calling it. marxism, racism, bigoted. let's start with the marxism. that's the favorite up with. they're using that every time. i hate to ask dumb questions so please don't think that i'm dumb. is critical race theory marxism?
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>> here's the thing. critical race theory is not so much a thing. it is a way of looking at a thing. a way of looking at race. a way of looking at why after so many decades, centuries, actually, since the emancipation, we have patterns of inequality that are enduring. they're stubborn. the point originally was to talk about how law contributed to the status of african-americans, of indigenous people, and an entire group of people coming to our shores from asia. the point was to understand the problem to intervene in it. to understand why the greatest hopes for a republic were not being realized even though these hopes were encoded in law. so critical race theory just inherits the beliefs and the
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hopes of frederick douglass, martin luther king, who wants the law to do for freed people what the law did for enslavers. we picked that up in the '70s and '80s after the civil rights movement to say, okay, now we've had this big civil rights movement. we have all these laws on the books. but things really are not lucas different as they should. if we are really the society we say we are. so how law wasn't just the neutral referee. law was not always on our side. in fact, law was less on our side than for on our side and we wanted to tell these stories to do better with the promises that are embedded in the constitution. so. >> is there a k-12 curriculum that right now is being -- i'm sorry. i know it is a dumb question. is there a k-12 curriculum on critical race theory being
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taught in schools around this country? >> well, look, if it was news to most americans critical race theory was in k-12, it was news to me, too. i'm one of the co-authors of one of the few books on critical race theory. i think i would know if we were being taught k-12. basically, classic critical race theory is a law school course and it is really not taught as widely as i would hope it would. but here's the deal. this is not about anything called critical race theory is in k-12. it doesn't exist any way. it is a back lash effort to reverse the racial reckoning, unlike any we've seen in our lifetime. as you point out in the beginning, they can't say, we're for racism. they can't say derek chauvin should have killed george floyd with his hand in his pocket looking like he was without a care in the world.
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they couldn't say that. so they looked around and found a strange sounding theory that they could put all the grievances and resentments and mobilize people around this boogie man. and if our side cannot really understand what's going on, it is going to work. it worked in recouldn't instruction and kit work in this, too. >> and a gentleman who very vigorously requested to be on the show. we're going to take him up on it and invite him on this week. he said we've successfully frozen their brand. critical race theory into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. we will eventually turn it toxic as we put all the various cultural insanities under that brand category. to wit, fox news has mentioned it nearly 1,300 times in the past three and a half months and we've now discovered these parents showing up at school
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boards against their children being taught they're racist. it turns out they are republican activists. not just regular old parents. >> big surprise there, right? >> yeah. not surprising at all. so i guess my last question to you would be, what do you worry is sort of purpose of what they're trying to do? this is political. it is about getting out the white voters in 2022. is there a bigger risk to naming critical race theory as some sort of marxist plot? >> well, of course. the biggest risk is that this tried and true framing of anti-racism as racist against white people will win again. it won at the end of the civil war when civil rights were framed as reverse discrimination against white people. it won after brown versus board of education when integration was framed as damaging white children. and it could win now if people don't wake up and have a sense of what is at stake.
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so yeah. you'll hear all these cherry picked stories. a lot of them were not verifiable that the other side is putting out there. you're not going on hear, and you should, what is happening. you won't hear that it was the reason why a school teacher was fired. you won't hear about the affinity groups in colleges and universities, and the programs, the educational programs being canceled. so we need to see materially what this is doing in order to weigh into this. if anyone was mobilized by last year, if anyone is concerned about what they saw january 6th, then you are on our side with this and you need to get involved. >> it is not critical race theory. kimberly, thank you for being here and clearing all that up. coming up, tonight's absolute worst is so bad. if someone pitched it as a plot for a movie, you would laugh
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57 years ago today, james cheney, andrew goodman and michael traveled to mississippi to register black voters and never made it back. they were abducted, tortured and murdered by a white mob enraged that they were working to register those voters in the state. it took two months to find their bodies. five decades later, volunteers are still fighting against voter suppression efforts in communities of color. tomorrow majority leader chuck schumer will bring the for the people act, the reform bill to the floor for a vote. it would make voting easier. for all we know, that won't happen because the bill will die before even making it to the floor for debate. republicans from collins to cruz
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are unified in opposition. the question left unanswered is, what comes next? joining me, the principal and ceo of impact strategies and host of on one with angela rye. and the former minnesota senator, al franken. tomorrow, people would be confused thinking this is a vote about s-1. about the for the people act. it is not. it is just a procedural vote. can you explain what happens when as we know will happen, that bill dies because it only gets maybe 50 votes? maybe 40, 49, 50 votes? >> well, of course, this is not a bill that we can pass through reconciliation like we did the relief act. so this immediately brings to question the filibuster and i was encouraged that joe manchin in this audio that was released
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the other day by the intercept, has said that he is open to a modification of the filibuster, and we've been working on a modification that would basically right now, you need 60 votes to break a filibuster. this would put the burden on those filibustering and 41 would have to come to the floor. and they would have to stay on the floor. they would have to stay there, the 41, and they would have to debate. and it would have to be germane. i would like to see them defend why it is a crime to give someone water waiting in line to vote. i would like to see that. and listen, mitch mcconnell filibustered more executive nominees when barack obama was
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president than had been filibustered in the entire previous history of the united states. he said that obama would be, he wanted obama to be a one-term president. that was his goal. that is his goal here. i think the sooner that joe manchin sees that that is what is going on, i think the sooner that we can go to some kind of modification of the filibuster. >> and angela, do you think that there is, is there something to be said for doing this demonstration project? forcing all the democrats to say, they really are for the bill. it is be clear whether it is two people or more than two who have problems with this bill, and having everyone show themselves and show joe manchin and kristen sinema. do you think that gets them anywhere? >> i think we need to be gotten to, is not only a vote on senate bill 1 but also on the john
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lewis voting rights advancement acts. the fact john lewis almost lost his life and then actually did die, and there were senators on both sides of the aisle mourning his up in solidarity with what john lewis was all about, which is voting rights, is appalling. and i think that really what needs to happen is not just a cloture vote but there does need to come an end -- the filibuster needs to come to an end. it is literally stifling progress. i don't know how many times black people and people of color have to fight for voting rights in this country. the fact that it's been, i don't know how many years, but i went to law school, but 2013 is when shelby v. holder, right, was ruled on by the supreme court. they have told congress to act on voting rights since 2013. and so while we're having this conversation about whether or not progressives, right, are the
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thing, the problem children of the party, what really needs to be talked about is the fact that this shouldn't be a partisan issue. black people should be able to vote in this country, after being here since 1619, shout out to your critical race theory block. the fact that gun violence still hasn't been addressed in this country, the fact the george floyd justice in policing act will not pass the senate, has not passed the senate, it's just time. so it's not even a conversation on a cloture vote. it's a conversation around the filibuster. it's time now to be negotiating with kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. they're causing problems. if they're giving other centrist democrats cover, maybe it should be that vote, but no matter what happens tomorrow, there doesn't just need to be one voting rights bill voted on, there need to be two. that's the bottom line. >> let me play you former
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president obama who talked about the obstruction we're seeing here. here he is. >> republicans in the senate are lining up to try to use the fill abuster to stop the for the people act from even being debated. think about this. in the aftermath of an insurrection, with our democracy on the line, and many of these same republican senators going along with the notion that somehow there were irregularities and problems with legitimacy in our most recent election, they're suddenly afraid to even talk about these issues and figure out solutions on the floor of the senate. >> senator mcconnell has said that if these laws that are overwhelmingly popular, 71% back making it easier to vote, 50% back making it easier to vote by mail. if those are passed, it will lock republicans out, rig the election for democrats forever. that's what mitch mcconnell
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said. what does that say to you, senator franken, if he's saying it making it easier to vote will rig the election for democrats. they don't want to talk about it. >> he's kind of right. if everybody when had a right to vote gets to vote, they would probably lose. that's why, you know, all these states have been passing these laws to try to suppress votes. and then the most alarming thing, of course, is these laws to get the state legislatures or state officials elected state officials, partisan state officials to be able to overturn the election. that is an existential threat to our democracy. there's no question about that. look, these guys, mitch mcconnell is cynical. mitch mcconnell is in this, and the republican party right now doesn't stand for anything, i think, other than maybe for low tax cuts for their donors or you know, low tax rates.
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