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way. the bottom line is that the president and i are very clear. we support s 1, we support the . >> the readout with joy reid is up next. how are you? >> how are you, ari. thank you very much. have a great evening. we begin "the reidout" with a big redeal. what we learned tonight is the truth about what republicans believe. the republicans have for decades been claiming that the true reforms needed for voting in america are all about election integrity. they pushed voter id laws and sought to purge voters from the
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rolls. remember florida in 2000 and georgia last year? tonight republicans revealed those things were pretty much bs. given the chance to debate those republican friendly ideas on voting, they punted. not one republican voted to advance debate on the bill. surprise. because the bill didn't meet the 60-vote threshold to fill a filibuster, it won't get the chance to be debated. vice president harris tasked with the voting rights portfolio spoke to reporters afterwards. >> and i think it is clear certainly for the american people that when we're talking about the right to vote, it is not a republican concern or a democratic concern. it is an american concern. this is about the american people's right to vote unfettered. it is about their access to a right to vote in a meaningful way. nobody is debating, i don't
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believe, whether all americans have the right to vote. the issue here is there actual access to the voting process, or is that being impeded. the bottom line is that the president and i are very clear we support s1, we support the john lewis voting rights act and the fight is not over. >> the vote here comes as 14 republican legislatures have passed voting rights laws. joe manchin agreed to support bringing it to the floor for debate in exchange for a guarantee his voting reform proposal would make it to the floor for debate as well. the manchin proposal is giving republicans almost everything
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they want. once his proposal surfaced, manchin switched back to supporting the bill which he co-sponsored in 2019 but changed his mind on in 2021 for a while. with the democrats all agreeing to move forward on the bill, the question now is what's next? majority leader schumer vowed to continue the fight while lashing out against his republican colleagues. >> the republican leader uses the language and the logic of the southern senators in the '60s who defended states' rights, and it is an indefensible position for any senator, any senator, let alone the minority leader to hold. this vote, i'm ashamed to say, is further evidence that voter suppression has become part of the official platform of the republican party. >> so what's next? with manchin and kyrsten sinema's ferocious defense of the filibuster and our democracy
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hanging in the balance and republicans revealing they don't care about so-called election integrity, where do we go from here? joining me is former senator claire mccaskill, jason johnson. thank you all for being here. claire, i'll start with you. there's a great article in "the washington post" basically saying joe manchin kind of did democrats a favor, him putting forward the proposal that did a lot of stuff progressive democrats hate, national voter id and saying you could purge your voter rolls rolls. obviously they don't want it that much. they decided we don't want it because barack obama likes it and stacey abrams likes it. what do you make of what we've seen today strategically for democrats? >> joy, i haven't watched the
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senate debate over the last several years. i actually watched today. i was struck by something. i was struck by the fact that rob portman and tom tillis called up the founding fathers and said how the founding fathers wouldn't agree with some of the things in the bill. well, let me tell you what the founding fathers would be shocked to find out. they would be shocked to find out that we've had an evolution in this country that has left the united states senate as nothing but a shell of what they envisioned. it is no longer the world's greatest deliberative body. they won't even debate. they will no longer amend legislation. they are hiding behind mitch mcconnell and the all-important policy position of the republican party, we can only win if we keep you from voting. >> just to stay with you for a second, claire, what we're seeing is -- they talked about
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this on "morning joe" this morning -- is a lot of discipline from the progressive side of the party. for stacy abrams to come out and say, listen, if we can get voting reform through, fine, we'll do it. president obama saying it's not perfect, but we'll go ahead and do it. they wanted online voter registration, automatically register voters, same day registration and voting, extend early voting, reduce role of special interest money, end political gerrymandering. manchin said make election day a national holiday, mandate 15 consecutive days of voting, ban partisan gerrymandering, mandate voter id. decrease attorney general's authority. even in the end manchin and sinema voted to advance the bill.
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amy klobuchar saying they're going to do field hearings starting in georgia. there's an idea now they'll bring manchin's bill to the floor which would clear the way to say, we got it to reconciliation. does that seem like sound strategy to you having been in that body, claire? >> repetition is the best friend of political success. what you're going to see the democrats do over and over again is continue to emphasize that the republicans will not work with them on the things that america wants. and there's nothing america wants more than making sure that people are allowed to vote. and manchin's bill, it may not be perfect, but it would sure improve the voting rules in my state. you can't vote absentee in missouri unless you swear you have some kind of medical condition or are going to be out of town. there's no motor voting, no early voting. there's a lot of things that
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would increase participation in my state in manchin's bill. let's watch republicans hide behind mitch mcconnell's skirt once again. >> stewart, i feel like for my whole life, republicans have been saying we've got to have voter id, purge voter roles. manchin says okay. i don't understand how this is a sustainable position for republicans in some swing states where they've got retirements in some states where voters might look at them and say, wait a minute, i thought you want it, but now you don't why? because stacey abrams likes it, too? is this sustainable? >> i think it depends on how much the profile of this gets raised and how it's framed. this should be framed as a fundamental issue of americanism. there really is no voter fraud that matters in america. i worked in elections for 30 years on the republican side. if it was there, i would have seen it. it's just not there.
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it's a problem that doesn't exist but they're trying to use as an excuse, republicans are, to limit voting access. the sham of all this is easily exposed by the fact that, when did all these state legislative bills get introduced for the most part, pushed? after donald trump lost, in what most of republicans say was an illegal election. there is nothing about this to make the election system better in what the republicans are pushing. i hope it becomes a big issue because voting should be a fundamental right. we'll know the republicans are feeling confident when they start supporting efforts to make it easier for people to vote. >> jason, the fact they couldn't get lisa murkowskis of the world -- susan collins said there's nothing wrong with these bills. the fact they held together, what does that tell you in terms of the republican position
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versus the democratic strategy? >> well, it means that the democratic strategy has to be, i hope, what chuck schumer said. leader schumer said, hey, this is just the beginning, this is our opening gambit. vice president harris said the same thing. because republicans are not going to change their mind. they're not going to, in any shape or form, be open to improvements or protections in voting. i'll be honest with you, joy. everybody knows at the local level, we had polls a couple weeks ago in west virginia. most people are in favor of the for the people act. republican voters in favor of the for the people act. the republican party, their only interest is put -- you're not going to scare america by talking about the lady who goes on npr and writes books and lives in georgia. that's how desperate they are, trying to demonize this.
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the democrats plan, we're going to keep doing it over and over until you break or kyrsten sinema breaks or joe manchin says i'm sick and tired of coming to d.c. to vote for the same bill, that seems like the same strategy. i have issues with a lot of joe manchin's proposals, but it's better than nothing. it might hold the fort for 2022 to be a fair election as opposed to a joke of an election. >> that's the point, claire. if democrats can get through even mandating early voting in all these states, they can live to fight another day. let's put up the polls jason was talking about, 71% backed making it easier to vote early in person. 80% back requiring photo id. 350% back making it easier to vote by mail. al franken and norm ornstein have a proposal that would force
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the minority to put up 41 votes and hold the floor and hold the floor or lower the threshold to 55. you know these senators. is that something they could get manchin and sinema to go along with you think? >> never say never. i think there is some reform they would consider. certainly making people own the filibuster rather than calling it from their office and saying, i object and never having to show their face or identify who they are, i any that's something. i think some of the reforms, joy, that have been talked about where, if a bill comes out of committee on a bipartisan vote, it goes to the floor for debate and amendment, period. and that way, if you get some republicans votes in committee, then you're assured that it isn't going to get buried somewhere behind mitch mcconnell standing up and saying no, we won't do it. i think there are some reforms. just keep in mind, if chuck schumer does this over and over again and he adds in gun safety,
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and he adds in some things like help with day care and elder care and he adds in infrastructure and things like that, if he does that and the republicans continue to block and block and block, not only will we have a good midterm, we'll have a historic victory in the midterms. >> stuart, that is my question, too. republicans are acting as if they have a sure thing in 2022. that's not clear to me. people want infrastructure, they want police reform. people want things, they don't just want the libs on tv. >> i think there's two contradictory truths here. it's not smart politics, but they do have the odds on their side. it's only three times i think in the last, what, hundred years that the party in power has increased the number of seats they got in off-year elections.
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2002 was the last one. i worked on the republican side. we were able to do it because of the iraq war. we nationalized the election. that's what democrats need to do. they need to nationalize this election and make it a referendum on democracy because that's what it is. efforts to block people from voting is part of a larger strategy that republicans have. they can't change the way the country ask changing, so they want to change the way the country is voting. if you can make that a big national issue that is about what it means to be an american, i think democrats could win. >> last word to you on this, jason. latosha brown and black voters matter on an entire tour highlighting this thing. it feels like president obama is on it. this ain't going away. this is not going to go away just because mitch mcconnell says it does. >> right. no, it's not going to go away. i have this warning for
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democrats, you don't get credit talking about what the other side keeps you from doing. you can't go in complaining these guys are taking something from me. they have to get something accomplished. >> you're absolutely right. claire mccaskill, jason johnson, stuart, thank you. thank you for recording your own disgustingly criminal act. it looks like america will miss president biden's goal of being 70% vaccinated by fourth of july. there was more going on at the capitol today when it comes to voting rights, specifically on one of the most basic tenets of american democracy. yet we saw truly ridiculous arguments against it. i'll explain, "the reidout" continues after this.
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the cases of nearly 500 defendants from the capitol insurrection continue to wind their way through the courts. last night the department of justice released video evidence from the case against charles donohoe, a president of a local chapter of the proud boys, the group accused of organizing the attack. among video is footage of them gathering forces before the siege began with one specifically saying "let's take the capitol." another video shows a defendant admitting on camera he stole a riot shield from police. the most dramatic shows a thin line of law enforcement officers being overwhelmed who were trying to block them from advancing on the east side of the capitol. i should note the graflks on that video were not added by nbc news: we're also learning many have a history of violence including ryan mock of minnesota. according to court filings, he once held a gun to three kids'
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heads, then pushed a woman who tried to intervene. in order to arrest him, the s.w.a.t. team had to be called. prosecutors allege in court that following the insurrection mock threatened a witness multiple times when the fbi was soliciting tips to apprehend him. yet, we're still seeing january 6th apologists like senator ron johnson comparing them to a small minority of people arrested during the black lives matter protests of last year which were usually for minor offenses like curfew violations. senator johnson appeared to suggest the january 6th defendants are being treated unfairly by comparison. >> do you know how many people were arrested for the summer riots? >> we've had dozens of people arrested over the last year. >> how many are still being detained? >> i don't know. i don't know the answer to that. >> by using geo location, did we
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arrest people that participated in the summer riots in their individual state like we did with january 6th breachers? >> if you're asking how the federal bureau of investigation operates, you'll have to address those questions to them. >> speaker pelosi informed the house democratic steering and policy committee she will create a select committee to study the january 6th ininsurrection. >> were the proud boys and 3 percenters and oath keepers, more congealing that there were organized gruns plotting and planning the attack. what does that mean for the cases of these individual people? do we start to see conspiracy charges? what do you think happens next. >> republicans aren't sending their best, are they? sending criminals to the capitol, aren't they? what we're hoping is some of the
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more cowardly white domestic terrorists will start to flip on the organizing white domestic terrorists so we can start to have real conspiracy charges brought against the kind of overarching organization. that's kind of how a criminal investigation of this magnitude works. it's how it's supposed to work. you start by kind of arresting everybody, kind of the lowest level -- there are 800 people who breached the capitol. all of them committed a crime. you round all of them up, you lean on the weakest among them and start to build charges against the organizers. we're starting to see that happen at the ground level in terms of these particular groups. what we're not seeing, and what i still need to see from this justice department is any kind of commitment or statement or ability to prosecute the true
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intellectual leaders of this movement, many of whom seem to be in congress, seem to be leaders of the republican party. what's happening right now, the analogy i made, this would be like if after 9/11, the government said, well, we got the people on the planes and we didn't go after khalik sheikh mohammed or osama bin laden. we need to get the top level people who planned, thought and organized this attack on our country. i don't yet see merrick garland's justice department being willing to prosecute the powerful. they're willing to prosecute these low level people, trying to get the conspiracy charge together. but the actual power brokers who conceived of this attack, i don't see that yet. i'm still hoping -- there's still time for me to see it, still time for them to do that work. >> scott mcfarland is reporting at least in one instance, a
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defendant is being asked whether they know any members of congress. so maybe we'll see it go in that direction. what do you make of speaker pelosi's announcement that she's going to convene a select committee on her own since republicans don't want to go along. do you think that helps advance our knowledge? >> history needs to be recorded. the fact that the republicans don't want to be part of the recording of this history is, quite frankly, fine with me. i don't think the people who were complicit in planning this and carrying this out should be involved in investigating themselves, quite frankly. i believe there are members of congress who gave aid and comfort to the terrorists, and i don't have a problem with the democrats investigating that on their own steam. this myth of bipartisanship, this myth that things are only real if you get some white injectionist to agree with you is not one i subscribe. obviously i'm not a kyrsten sinema voter.
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i'm totally okay with pelosi and the democrats in the congress doing this on their own. >> let's move on to another topic here. donald trump's former bodyguard is under scrutiny. this is the "wall street journal" reporting. prosecutors investigating whether matthew calamari received tax-free fringe benefits as part of their probe into whether donald trump's company and its employees illegally avoided paying taxes. prosecutors advised mr. calamari and his son they should hire they other lawyer, from people familiar with the matter. it doesn't feel like weisselberg, he's standing by his man. the fact they're going after a second person? >> let's see if weisselberg changes his tune if his name is on an indictment. this is a choice that a lot of trump organization officials are going to have to start to make.
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do they want to be witnesses or do they want to be defendants? prosecutors will give them that option in good faith. and they will have to decide whether or not they are going to -- you said stand by their man. whether or not they're going to be so loyal to the trump organization that they're willing to go to jail for crimes that i believe they did at the behest of the people in charge there or if they're going to tell prosecutors the truth. that is their choice, that's their choice to make freely. we don't know how all those choices are going to play out yet, including the case of weisselberg. we don't yet know what kinds of pressures are being brought upon him. we certainly haven't seen the most pressure brought upon him which would be jail time. >> lightning round. 30 seconds for each answer. new lawsuits, the texas league of voter latino filing a suit against the texas voter suppression law. do you think we might see the
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garland justice department go after these laws? >> someone needs to bring mark gal lie son water. he's doing god's work. hopefully merrick garland has his back. >> donald trump asked his justice department to stop "saturday night live" from teasing him. i'm want to hear you respond to the fact that he was so whiney about "snl" teasing him, he wanted the justice department to go after them. >> the fragility of white men. it's delicious, slt not? i would love to see michael cha deposed. that would have been worth the price of admission. >> he would have done that straight face, where he's just like, what. i would love to see that, too. thank you very much elie mystal, always great to have you on. health officials are sounding the alarm as the u.s. gets ready to miss its july 4th vacation vaccination goal with a
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today the white house acknowledged that the biden administration will fall short of president biden's goal to vaccinate 70% of americans by july 4th. it did meet the goal for people 30 and older. getting young people vaccinated remains a hurdle for the government's monumental effort along with getting through to the vaccine hesitant. listen to comedian chris rock. >> i don't know what's up with people not wanting to get vaccinated. i don't know what's in there. i don't know what's in fruit loops, okay? i don't know what's in a lot of stuff. i had a jheri curl, what the
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heck was in there? you think i knew what they were putting in my scalp. >> touche. joining me is u.s. surgeon general dr. vivek murphy. people drink coca-cola. you can clean your engine with that? people are saying, with something that was developed by scientists who at great risk, they had to get it right, people are still afraid to take it. what do you get of the hesitancy, not the political one, the real one. >> i enjoy that chris rock clip. thanks for playing that. we have people out there who have questions about the vaccine. that's okay. whenever you're about to put something inside your body, you should know the facts about it. unfortunately there's been a lot of misinformation floating around. we find it among the unvaccinated that two-thirds of people who haven't gotten a vaccine either believe common myths out there about the
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vaccine or think they might be true, myths like, if you get the vaccine, you might get covid. absolutely not true. if you get the vaccine, it may lead to infertility or dna mutations. absolutely categorically not true. we know aided and abetted by social media and other technology that this disinformation is spreading. that's why we've got to be aggressive about getting out there and making sure people get access to accurate information. that's why we've been mobilizing a variety of messenger from local doctors and nurses to influencers and to others to make sure that people are hearing from people they trust in local communities and they have access to the vaccine which you can now get easier than ever before given how many access points we have set up. >> if i can make a suggestion, you need to get on tiktok. a lot of the disinformation is on tiktok. you need to get somebody to do tiktoks. >> on tiktoks, we've had a number of us working with tiktok
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influencers. you're right. my gosh, extraordinary reach, trusted by a lot of young people. great suggestion. >> absolutely. let's talk about this delta variant. my son the other day was calling me telling me about this delta variant. it's scary. it's much more containing shows. it now makes up 20% -- first identified in india, now makes up 20% of all new cases. how much danger are we in that we'll go right back into the drink now because of the variant? how dangerous is it? >> i'm quite worried about the delta variant. it's significantly more transmissible. it also may be more dangerous in terms of severity of illness that it causes. we've seen how quickly it has taken over in the united kingdom where it's getting close to 100% of new covid cases are delta. we've seen a surge here, too. i'm worried. let me tell you who i'm worried about. i'm worried about those who are not vaccinated. based on the studies coming out
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of the uk, if you're vaccinated, you're quite well protected, particularly against hospitalizations and deaths. the worry is if you're not vaccinated, you're at greater risk than before. i don't want to see a growing divide between the unvaccinated and vaccinated. we've got to close that gap. that's why we're working so hard to get people vaccinated everywhere. >> in this country we can't do what duterte did, if you don't get your shot, you'll go to jail. 65.4% of americans received at least one dose, 55.9% are fully vaccinated. age 12 and over -- we went from being really among the worst in the world to really being not terrible shape. how much protection does that give us? how close are we to something like a herd immunity that will protect our kids in school, younger americans, at least in states where there are high
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levels of vaccination? >> joy, i'm really glad you asked. what's interesting, given how big a country america is and how diverse and varied our regions are, we've got some states and regions which exceeded 80% of vaccination rates, others below 50%. your level of risk, your kid's level of risk depends on where you live and how high the community vaccination rates are. i say this as a dad who has two young kids, 3 and 4, we don't have a vaccine available for kids that young. this is why we say the vaccination effort is more about what you're doing for yourself. it's about the step you're taking to help protect those around you. even if you don't get seriously ill, you can transmit the virus to those more vulnerable. what we've been hearing in the last couple weeks, more and more data about long covid symptoms, shortness of breath, headaches, brain fog that people experience
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more than a month after their symptoms. we're finding people with mild or asymptomatic infection can show up with these long haul symptoms. there are many reasons to get vaccinated. the way we'll get there is not only by each of us taking steps to get the right information and get vaccinated, but we've also got to turn around to our family and friends, ask them if they have been vaccinated, or help them get vaccinated. it's about stepping up for each other that we'll get our country protected against covid and move forward. >> get vaccinated so you can live to eat more fruit loops which you shouldn't be eating all the time, because that stuff has a lot of sugar. dr. vivek murthy, thank you. a young man saluted insurrectionists lecturing us about how the democratic process should work. 13 candidates running for the office of mayor of new york city with polls closing an hour from now.
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polls are closing in the new york city mayoral primary in just over an hour. if you don't live in the big apple, you might be asking why should you care. well, new york is larger than life, a city that creates larger-than-life politicians who often taking the national stage from ed koch, rudy giuliani and michael bloomberg. there's a chance we'll hear a lot more from the winner of this primary. this is also one of the few races where they represent a microcosm, from eric adams to kathryn garcia and maya wiley to andrew yang. this is the first time the race will be decided by rank choice voting.
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msnbc's steve kornacki is at the big board to explain what that means. go, steve, go. >> what we're also watching in some ways is a grand experiment. new york city, 8.5 million people. no jurisdiction, meaning no city or no state in the country as big as new york city that's tried something like this, ranked-choice voting. we're all going to kind of get an education on how this works and if this works. let's take a look at first, how does it work. democratic primary. 13 candidates. if you're a democratic voter in new york city, your ballot is going to look like this. you'll see all these candidates and be asked not just, hey, who is your first choice, but also who is your second choice, your third choice, your fourth choice and your fifth choice. you can rank them one through five. you can check off five different names on the ballot if you want to. that's what folks are doing today. there was an early voting period, mail-in voting, too. how are they going to determine a winner from people marking off
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all these different names on the ballot. let's show you what the final poll looked like. this is a maris poll. this is not the actual results. we're putting them up on the screen. we want you to have a sense of how it works. let's pretend the numbers we see in the final poll ended up being the results, people's first choice. first choice is eric adams. let's pretend you're looking at the first choice results from this primary. what would happen in ranked-choice voting? the first thing is they'd go to this last-place candidate, foldenauer and they would be eliminated, out of the race. then they would take the supporters for the last-place candidate and say, okay, let's look at the ballots. who were the second choice of these voters? some might have wiley.
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some might have adams. they'd reallocate those votes, run the numbers again. we'd get the results. whoever came in last place in the next round, let's say isaac wright, he would then be eliminated. and on and on we go. they are going to do this for 12 rounds until it gets down to two candidates standing. they'll run the numbers one more time and then that will be the winner of the democratic primary. in overwhelming democratic new york, very likely that candidate becomes the next mayor. the polls are open until 9:00. mail ballots had to be postmarked today but still had a week to get in. new york city takes a while with it's elections. long way of saying i don't think we're going to know who won this until the middle of july. >> it's so confusing, but only you steve kornacki could make
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that make sense. excellent job. it seems like a huge headache to me, but okay, new york city, go ahead, do you. steve, appreciate you. let's bring in christina greer from fordham university, professor of political science. i have been completely confused, christina, about what this all is about. i'm going to note that my chick chickadees sent her their "i voted." does this system impart anything positive to the electorate? what's the point? >> it's supposed to give voters more of an option so they don't have to choose someone strategically. they can really vote their preferences. we've seen this work in minneapolis, in san francisco. obviously there's some real opponents. some of the candidates do not believe in ranked-choice voting. eric adams is one of the major
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opponents. one, this is a democratic town. we have to put an asterisk on that because we've had 20 years of republican mayors. two terms of giuliani and three of bloomberg. bloomberg was a republican, he caucused with george bush and governor pitaki. as you saw in your first picture montage, there was no david din kens. this time we have four african-american candidates. so there's so many options for voters. this is also the first time we're using ranked-choice voting. some people worry about the education that we've given new yorkers. many new yorkers don't actually read. they speak english or speak their particular language their ballot comes in but don't necessarily read that. there are concerns about how it will be implemented because, as steve said -- you all chuckled, but we might not know until mid july. we might not have exit polling
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this evening. joy, you've reported on this extensively, the longer it takes, it obviously erodes voter confidence in who the winner will be when the results come out. we have to wait for absentee ballots to come in. i participated in early voting. voting, so we'll have to count those votes as well. >> apologies for not having david diggins in that montage. andrew strange is on a strange sort of flub. you've got eric adams who seems like the giuliani friendly candidate, but he's ahead. you've got maya wye lis. is there somebody who is considered a favorite here other than eric adams and why eric adams, because he does seem to be the more conservative candidate. >> he is. he's more of the moderate candidate. keep in mind, joy, when crime and public safety are primary issues for voters, that's when
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you see voters wanting to hear more about a former police officer who's moderate and centrist. i would not put andrew yang in this race. our more progressive candidates are catherine garcia running more of a technocratic bloomberg middle of the road campaign. andrew yang is all over the place. he's insulting the mentally ill. he's one way on homelessness. he's sometimes moderate to conservative. sometimes he's progressive with the universal basic income. he's a wildcard. he comes with a large national presence of strong blue hat supporters. so, it's hard to call. but when crime and public safety are trending as the primary issues for voters, we know historically voters tend to be a little more conservative. so, it would be interesting to see the strategy because of three progressive candidates. she's the front runner right now. if the strategy she's endorsed by aoc and elizabeth warren,
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that's something new yorkers want. but also when your second and third choice does matter. even if maya wiley is the majority of second choice vote, they could become the 110th mayor of new york city because of right choice voting and how people have to think about their second, third, and fourth choices on the ballot. >> very significantly. we're looking at potentially the second black mayor, maybe the first black woman mayor or latina mayor of this city. it's a big deal. >> right. well, we don't have any latina candidates. kevin garcia is not latina. her last name is. >> good to know. >> that's something voters can come to discover throughout the race. with ray mcguire, eric adams, maya wiley representing their best ideological diversity of the black electorate in new york city of over 8.5 million voters.
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♪♪ for just the second time in history the senate held a hearing on legislation to make washington, d.c. the 51st state. the d.c. statehood bill has already passed the house twice. and the biden administration supports it. and today washington mayor muriel bowser made a case for equal representation for the more than 700,000 residents of the district. >> senators, we ask you to right the wrong that occurred some 220 years ago when the residents of the district of columbia were stripped of their full congressional representation, and we ask you to do it now. >> bowser argued there's no
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legal or constitutional basis for excluding residents of the district. the population higher than vermont and wyoming. and one that's currently 46% black from having a say in the democratic process. since d.c. has no senators and just one delegate in the house, who can't even vote. naturally republicans are against the bill, mostly using the excuse of how democratic the district already is. just over 5% of residents voted for the disgraced former president last november. and at today's hearing, the usual suspects offered up more bogus arguments like d.c. is too rich for statehood. >> there's certainly poverty here, but this district is not made of many disadvantaged individuals. this is an elite group of people here. they have a vested interest in the power of the federal government. >> it's been well-known that when you move to washington, d.c. at any point, you're moving
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to an area that doesn't have two senators. no one is compelled to be here. >> the percent of d.c. residents living in poverty is higher than in wisconsin, and senator langford didn't address how it disenfranchises a third of native born washingtonians. there was republican josh hawley whining about how the bill undermines our democratic process. >> it is a fundamental process of our democracy that the constitution of the united states is the supreme law of the land. what congress cannot do is override the constitution any time it becomes inconvenient for a majority in congress. >> yes, yes, yes. as we all know mr. fist pump to the insurrectionists, trying to decapitate our democracy has no business lecturing anyone about our democratic process. for that, he and his fellow
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