. good afternoon, i'm chuck todd here in washington. we have a busy hour here today. we have new reporting on the president's bipartisan infrastructure deal. is it on the verge of collapsing? less than 24 hours after it was announced we'll go to capitol hill for the late nest a moment. also kamala hill will deliver remarks in about 30 minutes. we expect she will take

questions about what she learned and what she saw, and we have new reporting on the announcement late this morning that they plan to look at georgia's voting laws. first let's start with the condo collapse in florida. there have been no additional survivors buried from the rubble since early yesterday morning. they announced this morning that the number of people unaccounted for has risen to 159. >> it's incredibly moving to be on site with these safety personnel and fire rescue. they're totally motivated to find people. they have to be pulled off of the shift, that's how motivated

they are to continue their efforts. this work is being done at extreme risk to these individuals. debris is falling on them as they do their work. we have structural engineers on site to ensure they will not be injured, but they are proceeding. they are taking extraordinary risk on the scene every day. we are expecting a close eye on that. pretty soon given the severity of a collapse we could be looking at a mass casualty incident. so why did it happen? it is now the subject of an investigation. we're going to speak by a veteran who has been contacted already by working on an

official investigation to if i recall figure out what happened. what changed since yes, and how have the search and rescue efforts gone given the fact that it is maybe not a safe place for people to be digging around? >> you know miami well, and over the course of just this last couple hours, there has been intense spurts of rain nap number, 159, did not change from this morning. you mentioned there there be a press conference here later this hour. but just three individuals and bodies were covered here. e we want everyone to set the scene of what this looks like out here. this is the reunification center. standing here where folks, family, and friends are coming out and you just try your best

to introduce yourself and for so many it is very tough understandably here. i want to introduce you to maggie. i appreciate you opening up your story to everyone here. you're missing a loved one. >> you're telling me you were in london last night? >> yes, for a conference, and i woke in the morning to the news. we saw it, and we sthau it could be her building and then found it it was definitely her building. i got sent right to voice mail. >> what have these last 18 hours been like at this reunification for you? >> it's been a little agonizing, right? it is different faiths and

ethnicities. i have a mother, you have grandchildren, brothers, sister-in-laws, children, all of these people just missing. and everyone is just hoping for the best. >> you gave your dna? >> i did, as part of the process yesterday they took your dna. >> this afternoon we're waiting for more information, but what about i want to be very appreciative and do a shoutout to all of the officials today. yesterday was hard with not a lot of updates. rick scott came in, we had the mayor of the county, the fire department, and they committed to give us updates every four

hours. there was a update of the strategy they're taking, the gimt they are bringing in. >> can i ask you one more question. what is this like here and what do you want people to understand about your mom and what these families are going through? >> there is a lot of patience, a lot of prayer, a lot of hope. a lot of despair, and it's all being balanced. as far as what i want everyone to know about my mother is that she was a strong woman of faith, and i'm doing this because hopefully she's alive, but regardless she would want me to be strong and to prepare for the worst but believe in the best. >> chuck, one of the families here, 159 unexpected for.

we couldn't to wait here just a couple blocks away. >> that is a strong mother that her mother just raised there as well. please thank her for us. turning now to the engineer that literally wrote the book on the miami-dade building code. john, let's begin with this, this building was wilt in 1981. tragically we learned after hurricane andrew, that buildings built in miami-dade county went through one type of inspections, sometimes, and buildings that were holder and sometimes they were better than this, why should some of us not be wondering about the initial construction of this building from the beginning, sir? >> well, what happened is we did have a building collapse in

1974. a concrete building, because of defearuation of the program. there is a recertification meaning any building over 40 years has to have an independent evaluation to see that it is structurally safe. so that is in place since 1974. and so of course any building after that, we would sigh see additional matters. and the way you do the investigations on a concrete building, it is very details. and officials, the license engineers, and around 1985 we

had another collapse for a building in construction in florida. it was so we incorporated the building wall in florida that means that the building since 1984 has to have the scrutiny of an independent structural engineer for holdings that are more than free stories all. so you to account for all of it in the building. and certifying that for the building official, before they approve the final construction of the building into we believed, and of course we believe that we have after andrew, you mentioned andrew, we adopted even stronger codes. and that brings us up to like

185 miles per hour winds, or 150 miles per hour winds, and we believe that we have all of the safe guards in place to protect bheem are now living in existing buildings, the only thing is that they have to main temperature them, you don't wait 40 years and then start looking at your buildings to see if there is a problem. they are required to maintain it the way they were originally build. and to basically 40 years was a line in the sand to say okay, that validates that. so that's bha i'm saying for all of the people now living in these buildings here, they did not field and they feel like they jeopardized the way it came down. we don't know, this is very

unusual. this is a big mystery and we won't know until duo a until we have an investigation. >> where did you begin, i'm sure you saw the video of the building coming down. based on what you have seen, where do you want to start your forensic investigation. walk us through that. >> well, i mean, we have -- we have seen the video, we have seen it go to the north and come down first and then it brought down the east section. so i would want to focus on the center section, but the problem is that what we normally do on these is we remove -- we pick up the various pieces of concrete.

we take them to a field and set up the whole building, all of the debris on the field, and the engineers can look at it as it is and see if there is any telltale signs. but we have to work our way all of the way down for that center section. but the problem is that we have an unstable building, still. we have to make sure that the building there it shored up. there is still stuff flying off of the building because of wind, so certain responders and our inspectors, our forensic engineers are not jeopardized as well. we want to remove and document the condition of all of the pieces and put them in a location where we can further examine them. the strength, the condition of the steel, the foundation,

looking for evidence of settlement. the bottom slab of the building. we would have to get them in for boring to check the conditions. there is undermining that took place. there was an engineer doing the certification, and we wanted to see his report. see all of the pictures of the building, it was a big under taking for every piece of investigation that is so valuable. >> let me ask this. you made some mentions of 1984 the codes got tighter. if someone live-ins a condo building, higher than three stories, built before 1984, do you think we have to rethink what the inspection process looks like for buildings that

old these days? >> no, the codes didn't get tighter. they have larger wind speeds, but as far as concrete is concerns, the concrete, we still have the same safe guard to protect the concrete from salt water, salt intrusion, that sort of thing. so we have buildings here, the whole thing is being maintains. we have may safety factors in the design of these buildings. this was relatively new building. this is a bigamist ri to all of us. >> john, i know your expertise is gone as well.

joining me now is sally thank you for spending a few minutes with me. i want to go to this. >> how concerned are you about buildings of a certain age, and i guess the first thing on the agenda after we get through this is to figure out is the investigation process working? >> these buildings have sustained tornadoes and hurricanes on a yearly basis. and they have done fine. before people jump to conclusions, it is, say, 12 stories. some of the buildings are 40,

50, or 60 stories. and they have done well under our building codes. and you know something? it is a standard practice. i hope that people feel confident in the people who put the product together, put the building structure together, and with the inspections going in and the ongoing maintenance as it proceeds. this is an exception to the first time.

not only from miami-dade fire and rescue, which does international search and rescue, but the city of miami because of the county mayor, the governor, and the president, and they are sending their fire department. and they have multiple task forces coming back. we are rotating our ships, it is right next to lights they are working as part of this, and they're working the storms

earlier this morning. so it is the same crews, under ground, in the garages, above the ground, and on the roof. and i don't know how many more people could suggest, butting it putting it on the scene. we need to be respectful and we need to recognize that we're fortunate enough for them to find sound or visual survivors. >> have we had any news? some people said they heard tapping. is there good news about dogs finding anyone, hearing voices, anything like that? >> i can't be specific on it. there was a joist yesterday about 10:00 in the evening, and it wasn't determinable what it was, but if you can see behind me, with the fireongoing --

fire ongoing. they have to clear access to get to the fire source and put it out. but in the meantime they're extracting rubble after they ascertain that there is no person's alive or deceased as part of that. so they're painstakingly clearing it cautiously and moving ahead. the building has been deemed about unsafe structure. that was done in the last half hour and is posted. >> i know that this is personal for you as you said you live on miami beach, you're a lifelong resident, anyway, we're all hoping for any good, any sign of good news to come, good luck and hang in there. >> prayers for everybody, thank you. >> thank you. we're going to stay close to the story throughout the hour. as i said we're expecting a update from the governor and some local officials.

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welcome back, as difficult as it was to get to a group to announce a bipartisan agreement on infrastructure, now they have to keep the deal from getting derailed. the deal already could be on the verge of falling apart. they say the republicans are disappointed that he was not definitive on signing it without

a reconciliation package. senator lindsey graham said if biden is going to tie them together, forget it. that's extortion. democrats say all 50 of their folks are together on this. but there is something going awry. leann caldwell is on capitol hill. mike memoli. did the president tie his hands saying he would not support this deal unless what, right? that's the question i have in my head. any reconciliation deal? a reconciliation deal of a certain amount of money? is that meaning they all have to

be tied together? people knew this was a two-step process, but linking them to the point of locking himself in, did he mean to do that? >> the president would not have said anything yesterday unless he had to do it. let's start by making this point clear. democrats would have one shot at a reconciliation process for whatever they would choose to use it on. i think what we saw yesterday from this process, while it may have begun with the need to make every effort to show a bipartisan initiative was made here, the process ended with the leverage that progressives in the caucus had with asserting themselves. the fact that the president so clearly linked these, this was not an ad lib. this was in the prepared remarks and he repeated it, and we know

that the best vote counter in town was nancy pelosi. she said nothing would happen in the house until the measure was was done with that part of the process. the left flank was getting nervous that the bipartisan path is the only path, and now is this deal already in trouble depends on the answer to this question. we saw the white house put out a readout of a call between the president and kirstin sinema. she was unhappy with what she heard from the white house, and that is the deal being in absolute trouble. >> we have not gotten a readout from nine other senators if he

is doing this by calling senator by senator. they are doing reconciliation with thinking they could not get in the bipartisan deal, and suddenly republican senators are saying they're shocked. >> well, republicans are telling me, republican sources, i should say, that they always knew that the democrats would do reconciliation. what is the problem for them is that they have now so inextricably linked together, that president biden said he would not sign the bipartisan bill unless he also received a multitrillion dollar reconciliation passion at the same time. and my sources are telling me in is not the commitment they received from the white house. that was not the commitment outlined from the president in their meetings.

there is a lot of anger republicans about this. they think the entire situation might be derailed 24 hours after it came together. republicans were mostly okay with with this. they say you spend trillions and raise people's taxes, we're okay with that, but we want this deal, but if they are in the same package, and the president won't sign one without the other, that is making them angry. >> it is interesting. was it news to you that these two would be this linked. i understood it as a two-step process, not a jump process. that is right, and that was news to me with them coming out so

strongly for it, and actually republicans are telling me they're okay with that. they know speaker pelosi will do what she was going to do and schumer will do what he needs to do to keep his members on board. they were negotiating with the president. and so you know the democrats have to do this to keep the progressives on board. but also they will be thrilled if the negotiation fell apart because then they can do everything they want and the president, they think he needs to clean up and we'll see what he does and if he chooses to do so. >> that is the thing, i hate to say that he gave away his leverage publicly. but when is the ability to bring

everyone here together. >> he did whisper quite a bit yesterday, but i asked him what i thought was the fairly obviously question, in the room, which is have you gotten ainsurances from all democrats that they're in support of both'ses of legislation. i think he knows this is a very fragile situation. but you also heard him say that he believes yes, there is a divide in his party and that was interesting to hear him acknowledge. he often says it is overblown,

but he said the party is rational. it will take awhile, and there are any number of things, a lot of outside pressure, and signaling that the democratic senator number change here imperils just about all of the operation. >> i think a lot of senate democrats and progressives are assuming that sinema and joe manchin are free votes in a reconciliation and that is also perhaps that wishful thinking there. we shall see. the fact that the deadline is now september 30th means i think health care took over a year to pass, we may, hello, 2022, we will see. by the way following breaking news out of new york. the "new york times" is reporting that the d.a. may bring charges against the trump

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welcome back, we expect to hear from vice president kamala harris. harris is in the el paso today where she is looking at processing facilities. but harris is not in the rio grand valley. that is where the surge of migrants being prosecuted ill legally is taking place. she is also facing scrutiny for not stopping on the southern

border on a recent trip to mexico. jacob, look, the politics of when do you visit and all of this stuff, this is political theater. why is she in the rio grande valley instead of el paso. >> she would see the area where there are more border crossings than anywhere else. that is true through the biden administration. they are trying to stop people from coming through that area. and what they say about why they're coming to el paso is that this is where the administration policy started and they use that to pivot to a fair, safe, humane orderly system. that did not stop them from being criticized they, like

title 42, that is not being rescinded. they're being criticizes for not showing up sooner and they're being criticized for not going far enough. >> so you lived with these numbers, you have seen these firsthand. it seems to be a tenable situation where there is over flowing unaccompanied minors. where are we now? do we surge more personnel, try to create some space for them to try to get their arms around this? have they had any success? >> they have and it is important to note on a person by person basis the number of a pry he

thinks is lower than it was because of the title 42 policy. and the other thing is the central processing station, the numbers are low there as they are across the border, but the same cannot be said where she did not miss it. and that is really important to note today as well. she could have shown up at ft. bliss. reports of people here, young children, committing self harm. taking away things like pencils according to court documents, but she didn't go there. she didn't go to hhs, and that's another area she has been criticized. not doing enough to move away from the large scale influx

sites where the health and the well-being of the children is up for debate according to the advocates on their behalf. >> so congresswoman escobar, is that a -- what do you make of that description? is it the same sort of mind-set? people were escaping for different reasons from eastern europe. is that a fair description? >> i'm not so sure, it has been what it is today for quite some time. when i reported for dateline, i stood at the port of entry where the vice president went today and you can was children coming back and forth by the thousands going to local high schools here. this is, they call it, the

border protection region. they are so interdependent and they always have been. it is not something that would be new it has been here for a long time. that is something that has always been important. >> jacob, on the ground for us, in your expertise, always appreciate it, thank you, sir. >> we're going to bring you the vice president's remarks when they happen. up next we're going to check in in minneapolis. that's where derek chauvin will find out how long he will serve

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welcome back, they are sparking a racial reckoning. they found him guilt of second degree murder. disturbing details about how chauvin murdered floyd by kneeling on his neck. chauvin is only the second police officer to face. type. shaquille brewster is joining us now. he knows this case better than anyone else. tell us about how the community in general is preparing for this

sentencing and, you know, is there -- i have talked to some folks who, while, they feel good about the verdict, or pessimistic about what the sentencing may bring. >> the question of how long he will serve but there is not as much tension as you saw. there is no bipartisaned wire. there are no military vehicles. but people are watching and we know that derek chauvin is facing 40 years in prison, but he is unlikely to face that much time. they are looking at 10.5 to 15.5 years.

the defense is asking for time served and probation. so there is a wide range. the judge overseeing this case gave a hint that the unless he may decide on is a little higher and that is because he said there are four aggravating vak forests. one is the fact that there was children present, but it's not clear where the sentence will land on. i think you look to the family and listen to what they said, no matter what that number will be, no matter what that number is you still have the reality that george floyd is dead and not coming back despite what the court system says. i want you to listen to what one fairway member said in an interview this morning. >> the full justice is to have our george back and that's not going to happen.

so we're hoping that we get the maximum. i think he deserves the maximum because i think that what he did, the way that he murdered my cousin, was deliberate. in his position he should be held to a higher standard. he is supposed to be one that is protecting us. >> what can we expect when things start at 2:30 eastern period. we know there will be victim impact statements. we know the prosecution will make their arguments, and we may, potentially, hear from derek chauvin himself he could announce that official decision, chuck. >> we're about 45 minutes away from the beginning of that hearing. coming up the new announcement about voting

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it's a thirteen-hour flight, that's not a weekend trip. fifteen minutes until we board. oh yeah, we gotta take off. you downloaded the td ameritrade mobile app so you can quickly check the markets? yeah, actually i'm taking one last look at my dashboard before we board. excellent. and you have thinkorswim mobile- -so i can finish analyzing the risk on this position. you two are all set. have a great flight. thanks. we'll see ya. well we told you vice president harris is going to speak. she's speaking right now in el paso. take a listen. >> whether it was when i met with children who are unaccompanied minors or i met with leaders who have been on

the ground in el paso for many, many years doing work that is directly about supporting and interacting with folks who are crossing this border. my trip to guatemala and mexico was about addressing the root causes. the stories that i heard and the interactions we had today reinforce the nature of those root causes. a lack of economic opportunity very often violence, corruption and food insecurity. and the basic needs not being met, including fear of cartels and gang violence. so the work that we have to do is the work of addressing the cause, the root causes, otherwise we will continue to see the effect what is happening at the border. it is going to require as we have been doing a comprehensive

approach that acknowledges each piece of this. informed also by the recognition that the united states is a neighbor in the western hemisphere and not only do we have a reason to concern ourselves with the root cause issues because of what we see at the border, but also because we are, we live in that neighborhood. the western hemisphere. and like anyone living in a neighborhood, one must understand and see the effect and the relationship between fellow neighbors. so, that's the work we've done. i want to, in particular, recognize secretary mayorkas. the time that we spent with the dedicated men and women of cbp has really enforced the work that secretary mayorkas has done in terms of bringing technology and resources and bringing

professionalism and support to the men and women who are on the ground doing the job every day. i commend all of them for the success they've seen thus far. i call it progress. we are not exactly where we want to be but extreme progress over the last few months because it was dedication and his efforts. with that, i want to also make a point when we have the conversation about what is happening at the border, let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about human beings. let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about stories that as the bishop shared and many of the community folks shared, involve horrendous tales of abuse and fear and harm. not only for folks who are companying here in their own country experiencing that, but along the path of their

migration. and so let's recognize with a sense of humanity that these issues must be addressed in a way that is informed by fact and informed by reality. and informed by perspective that actually is dedicated to addressing problems and fixing them in the most constructive and productive way. the president and i are absolutely committed to ensuring that our immigration system is orderly and humane. and i do believe that we are making progress in that regard. so, with that, i'm going to now introduce the secretary of the department of homeland security ale mayorkas, to make a few comments. >> thank you very much madam vice president. i'm privileged to be with you today. i recommended to the vice president that we visit el paso because it is one of the busiest

sectors on the border. el paso reflects the many diverse elements of our mission. it demonstrates also the progress that has been made in the work that remains. in march, this sector experienced overcrowding, unaccompanied children and staying at the border patrol station for more than an average of 120 hours. we saw too many children in a border patrol facility not designed for them for too long. the president and the vice president directed me and the execution of my responsibilities as a secretary of homeland security to take care of it. today, the situation is dramatically different. the border patrol station is not overcrowded with children and unaccompanied child spends an average of less than 30 hours in it. border surges have been a challenge for years and years. and to address the challenge

successfully requires a multi-part plan. we have a plan. the vice president is leading our nation's effort to tackle the root causes of migration why people leave their home in the first place. i and my colleagues in the cabinet have been directed to execute the rest of the plan. to build safe and legal pathways for people who qualify for humanitarian relief under the laws our congress have passed. to rebuild our country's asylum system that was dismantled under the prior administration. in an orderly and just way to remove those whose claims for relief do not qualify. i'm immensely proud to lead the work force, the men and women of dhs and executing our responsibility to secure the border and execute safe, orderly and humane process as the

president and the vice president have directed. i am grateful to the vice president for leading the effort to tackle the root causes of migration, her focus on what is happening in the northern triangle countries of origin. i am hopeful that congress will pass immigration reform to fix a system that everyone recognizes is broken and i am thankful for the chairman's years long leadership and championing of this effort. thank you. >> for several years i served in the senate with kamala harris, senator from california. we worked on many issues together. there was never a doubt in my mind when it came to the issue of immigration that we were of the same mind as to what america needed to do. when she was given an opportunity to join president

biden in leading this country, she was also given an opportunity to use that commitment to immigration to solve one of america's hardest political problems. her attendance today in el paso is an indication of her caring and her commitment to meaningful immigration reform. and i want to join her by saying that the congress needs to do its part when it comes to immigration reform. it has been 35 years since we've had an immigration bill. everybody complains about the immigration system and they should. it's broken. but when it comes to dealing with it, many of the folks in the senate and the house don't want to lift a finger. we need a bipartisan effort to come up with a meaningful, humane, sensible immigration policy in america. i want to salute the congresswoman, veronica escobar. she and i discussed her vision of immigration reform.

i believe she's moving in the right direction in terms of dealing with not only the challenges of today, but what our nation looks like tomorrow. it is an honor to be back here in el paso with the vice president. i thank her for the invitation today and i will let the congresswoman at this point say a few words. >> thank you, chairman. >> as you see here, we are still awaiting to see if vice president harris will be taking question, but that's all we have now. geoff bennett will be taking over as soon as i pass him the baton. i'll see you on sunday on "meet the press." >> as we come on the air this hour, we're following a number of breaking stories on this very busy friday. we're expecting the president to speak at any minute now from the white house. he'll appear alongside pete buttigieg to mark pride month. that event appears to be already

under way. after he designated the pulse nightclub where 49 people were killed in a mass shooting back in 2016 and let's listen tine the president right now because he's talking about the condo collapse in florida. >> and i promise you the administration, the congress will do everything possible to be of assistance now and after this occurs. after they decide exactly what the stay of play is. i am glad to welcome everyone here to the, to the white house here and in person virtually. survivors and family members, victims and the pathbreaking leaders like senator baldwin, just over five years ago the pulse nightclub, a place of acceptance and joy became a place of unspeakable pain and loss. and we'll never fully recover but we'll remember. and we have to