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6:00 a.m. eastern. "velshi" starts now. today on "velshi," the latest on the tragedy and a mystery collapse in the florida high rise building. and charges against the trump organization could come as soon as next week. and what does 22 1/2 years in prison for george floyd's killer mean to the community that fought for justice? i'll talk to one of the people responsible for bringing george floyd's murder to the world's attention. the justice department is taking the big lie to court. what we know about the georgia lawsuit about new voter suppression laws now on "velshi." it is saturday, june 26th. i'm ali velshi we're live in surfside, florida at the site of a tragic and mysterious
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building. the champlain powers high rise building. right now four people are confirmed dead. 159 are unaccounted for. despite the round the clock efforts, no survivors have been found since thursday. nonetheless officials on the ground are to the losing hope. >> our firefighters have been working around-the-clock. they have hope, we have hope. >> one of the four known victims of the tragedy has been identified as 54-year-old stacy fang who passed away shortly after arriving at a local hospital. she is the mother of a 15-year-old who was dramatically pulled from the rubble after the collapse. he is reportedly in stable condition. the building was home to a large
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jewish population as well as nationals from a multitude of south american countries including colombia, argentina, venezuela, uruguay and paraguay, including relatives of the first lady of paraguay. as far as the cause of the sudden collapse of the 40-year-old 136-unit building, it largely remains a mystery. but there's much educated speculation about contributing factors including that building on shifting sands could have contributed or a possible sinkhole or a construction defect or corrosion. the building was set to undergo a 40-year recertification as required by miami-dade county building code. it was set to undergo a major repair project as well. the "new york times" notes this morning a newly released 2018 report from a consultant documenting evidence of major structural damage to the concrete slab below the pool
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deck. and abundant cracking and crumbling of the columns, beams and walls of the underground parking garage. the report does not say the building was at risk of collapse but it said it needed to be fixed in a timely fashion and aimed at maintaining the structural integrity. but this all means that the big question remains, how can a 40-year-old building simply collapse in the middle of the night? with so many similar buildings not only in this immediate area but across florida and in coastal regions in other parts of the country, buildings all over this country, can this happen again? are we in danger? joining me live is vaughn hilliard. he's also with me at surf side. the impossibly sad family reuniication center is here.
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you have been there with those families. they even have been relocated because it was taking them so long to get them information. what is the scene there? >> that transfer of these families took place yesterday evening. they were previously at a community center which had become sort of this open-air area where friends, family, people driving with paper towels, jackets, clothing, donations were all congregating. last evening they were moving folks to this hotel, providing them rooms because we're dealing with a situation where you have hundreds of people looking for their loved ones. desperation. there is a special hope there, particularly that first day, but in the hours since, it's become more desperate as folks are seeing the difficult weather situations that are hampering that very rescue effort. we're about a mile away from the scene of that condo collapse. even from where i'm standing we can see the smoke slowly
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billowing out of that building. talking to families, i want you to see a couple for yourselves. people are coming up with photos and eager to send you text messages with photos. this is louise. his son is missing. he was standing quietly on the curb wanting to show people images of his son. you have maggie ramsey. her mom. she drove from orlando two nights ago. four-hour drive from orlando. her mom, she can't get in touch with her. this is manny lafante. i want you to hear from a woman who introduced us to manny, she's just a friend of his. she said he doesn't have family and is desperate for folks like us to get his message out. that he's also one of those 159 unaccounted for. >> i haven't seen him anywhere.
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i've seen his -- i've seen so many pictures, we have many, many good friends in there. partners, business partners, daughters in there from puerto rico. we're from puerto rico. manny is a dear friend of ours. he lived alone. he's a divorced man. single father. he took care of his children. his children were picked up the night before at 9:00, 9:30 at night. >> walking through that community center yesterday, a great number of folks understandably don't want to go on camera here because for these folks, it's the reality that the best-case situation is that their loved ones are suffering beneath rubble waiting to be saved here by these rescue crews that are trying to do their best under difficult circumstances and there's an anger among some. i met a woman named ashley. her sister, cassie, believed to be underneath that rubble. her frustration was that cassie had long complained about the water and the flooding in the
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parking garage. she said there were cracks and she would often complain about the lack of maintenance and the lack of upkeep. and her sister now blaming that. we don't know why this building came down, but a lot of folks are waiting through a situation that could take weeks if not months. >> in my decades as a reporter, there's no sadder story than covering the families of those waiting for word on their loved ones. thank you for doing that and giving us those pictures. thank you for telling their real stories. he's a few blocks north of where i am now. we're on the south side of the building collapse, he's on the north side. we'll stay close to you. i want to bring in charles kessel, he's one of the three commissioners for the town of surfside. thank you for being with us. we're so sorry for the loss in your community. there's a synagogue where ten me members of the community are
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missing. there's the family of the first lady of paraguay, six members of their family may have been in this building. s it's a close-knit place, and it's been 159 people missing since yesterday morning. >> i know. it's shocking for us and for the loved ones and families of those missing. surfside is a close-knit place, i know a lot of people that live in each of the buildings. we hear from them regularly. folks living in these buildings are not shy. they're assertive. they like to know what's going on. they like to tell us of any concerns they have. so that's been one of the real surprises. i have heard, you know, a number of concerns both going into the 40-year recertification that's slated for this year. >> that was normally recertification. >> yes. yes. >> a building goes through recertification here every 40
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years. >> yes, in miami-dade county. and there are the building issues that have to be kept up with. sometimes they're done better than other times. but a lot of engineers were in the bidding preparing for the assessment and making improvements and repairs. they had commission studies. it's just shocking that they wouldn't have found something -- some kind of fatal flaw to get everybody out of that building. you do very good reporting there, i must say, there's the possibility of something natural involved here. there could be multi points of failure that just have, you know, have been in alignment in a catastrophic way. >> the buildings in america just don't fall down. we have earthquakes and buildings don't fall down. if you look up this line, the buildings are of similar vintage. in one in front of us is newer,
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but generally speaking, the yd that the buildings are 35, 40, 45 years old. there are similar buildings. have others said am i in danger? >> of course. people get scared when something like this happens. i know i and the town manager, we always take any concerns seriously regardless of who it comes from and in what manner. but this has people a bit on edge. so yesterday somebody came forward of photos of things they were concerned about. and i wanted to make sure we were ready to receive those, even though the town staff is stressed now because we need to be open for business as usual but also sensitive to residents during this time. >> what about that? i know you've been involved with some of these people waiting for word. you tried to make them as comfortable as you can in this hotel, there's no amount of comfort if you have not heard from your loved ones for 48 hours. >> yes.
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i think being at the community center, which many of them were already familiar with, was a good thing up to a point. it was becoming unsustainable for this many days. some were familiar. now it they're in a less familiar place. hopefully it's more comfortable. regardless of where they're at, every minute is an eternity. the news has not come necessarily regularly or frequently nor does it change. but they all do want to have regular updates clearly. even if it's just the weather has changed and the dogs are going back in. i'm going to be talking with them and walking over there, i'm grateful to have stopped by and spoken with the miami-dade rescue team from the k-9 unit. they said that they're going in there -- >> these are rescue k-9s, not cadaver dogs. >> yes. >> dogs looking for life. >> yes, looking for life. that's given me fresh hope because, you know, we see the
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weather, we smell the smoke. we see the rain. we see them trying to put out the fire. there's a lot going on in addition to a pipe of rubble. and -- but if the k-9 unit, search and rescue, if they're ready to go for a few more days or however long they determine, that gives me hope that we could have survivors. >> the hope of the country is with you, commissioner. keep us up to date on what's going on. >> thank you. commissioner charles kessel of the town of surfside. joining me now is a forensic structural engineer, joel figueroa, a fellow with the american civil society of engineers, founder and lead special inspector with s.e.p. engineers. he was on the front lines in haiti after the devastating earthquake in 2010. as you have seen, there is a 2018 report that has come out, which we have seen here at nbc,
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that discusses abundant cracking and spaulling of the concrete walls. it included instances with exposed deteriorating rebar. some of this damage is minor, most of the concrete deterioration needs to be retear repaired in a timely fashion. it is not an indicting paragraph but sounds serious to somebody like me who is not a civil engineer. what do you make of that report? >> sure. it definitely sounds concerning but also important as forensic engineers, we have a process. we want to respect that process and not jump to conclusions and speculate. i'm sure that report will be taken into consideration when the forensics team and the team
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out there going through this rubble and collecting the information and data to be used to figure out what happened here, i'm sure they'll take that into consideration. but it can be concerning. >> the main issue, we'll get to the bottom of this because we always will, that may have remarkable effects all through south florida, through this state, through the country about things that have to be fixed and the time in which they have to be fixed. the bigger issue now, is there are rescuers in there who are worried. there have been fires in there and they're worried about putting the fires out because of the weight of the water. there are firefighters in there who are worried when they step on something they may cause more damage or injury somebody worse who may have survived. >> if you can think of this as two different structures. we used to have a structure that was standing, now we have
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another structure that's collapsed. so these elements are now in a completely different arrangement. so there's definitely always a risk, you know, of moving the wrong element or, you know, causing some form of shifting. but i'm sure that the team that's out there, you know, they're very well trained. they have been through this before. first responders are also very well trained in that. i'm sure they're carefully going through the rubble and just making sure that, you know, that they do it in a manner such that, you know, we optimize the debris removal but also not jeopardize any potential lives that may still be beneath this debris. >> you were talking yesterday about a 1981 collapse of a five-story condominium in harbor kay, florida. that collapsed because workers were pouring concrete on a roof
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slab, and you seem to say that was a product of a flat slab construction. is that relevant to this particular matter? >> well, in forensics, as i mentioned before, there's a lot of contributing factors. i know flat slab was a popular style of construction in those times. and, you know, just to be clear, the 1981 collapse, that occurred during construction. this building is obviously withstanding the test of time. the similarity here is that it's a similar structural system and there's many different failure modes, you know, of collapse. so the comparison was drawn more to the type of strict wall system that the building in 1981 was constructed of, compared to potentially from looking at pictures this building didn't seem to have any beam construction in the floors just from the pictures, not that they're not there, but we'll
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figure that out once the investigation gets a bit further. >> joel, thanks for your time. joel is a fellow with the american society of civil engineers, he's the lead special inspector and forensic engineer with s.e.p. engineers. you can see those live pictures. we're getting those from a helicopter above the site. our investigation on this continues. search and rescue efforts are ongoing. 159 people are unaccounted for. we'll hear from congressman carlos carbella, he's waiting on news from some of his own friends. and lieutenant russell honore will talk about the search and rescue efforts in light of the disaster. here's more from witnesses and family members. >> unfortunately we did hear screams but i couldn't tell
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where they were coming from. >> that's the hardest part right now. it's -- he keeps asking me when is she coming over? he saw the footage this morning. he know the building fell. >> she was an amazing person. it's not fair. pain? yeah. here. aspercreme with max-strength* lidocaine. works fast and lasts. keep it. you're gonna need it. kick pain in the aspercreme if you wanna be a winner then get a turkey footlong from subway®. that's oven roasted turkey. piled high with crisp veggies. on freshly baked bread! so, let's get out there and get those footlongs. now at subway®, buy one footlong in the app, and get one 50% off. subway®. eat fresh.
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we're back. i'm in surf side, florida. for those of you who know the area or know south florida, it's off of collins avenue in the 80s. i'm at 86th just east of -- 86th and collins avenue is where i'm at. look at what the helicopter is showing us now. it's above the scene. they're showing us removal of debris from the scene. it's there to augment the hand searches going on. literally people are taking bricks, stones away and putting
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them in buckets. there are also dogs. you will see adogs on site. these are not cadaver dogs. these are dogs that smell for life. while there are 159 people unaccounted for, the job is to find people alive. the idea is that there may be pockets, even though this building has pancaked, there may be pockets in which people are alive. if there are those pockets, there may be air, which is why the firefighters are being cautious about how they're applying water. what they don't want to do is fill up those pockets with air. it's a controversial situations because the fires are keeping them back in some instances. lightning that kept them back. today the weather is relatively clear. this is south florida where the temperature and the weather changes frequently. there were heavy rains yesterday. that holds them back. the rescuers can still work but it impedes their search. the way they're trying to find
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people is they're listening but they have not heard anything since thursday from a human. they have dogs, lights, cameras that go into small spaces and sonar. all of that is at play while they try to rescue people. i will speak to the former florida congressman who has a personal connection to this disaster. he will join me on site after the break. first we're over 200 miles south of orlando which became the site of a horrific attack on the lgbtq community. it was at the pulse nightclub shooting. yesterday president biden designated the site as a national memorial. the president declared pride is back at the white house. s week rashida... rashida: dan, no pain, no gain. okay? dan: yeah i know, it's just...hello? claire, what? fire? ...or always road tripping on empty dan... rashida: i told you this would happen.
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who are still unaccounted for this morning after a condominium building collapsed behind me here. i'm in surfside, florida. it happened early thursday morning. rescuers are combing through the rubble trying to find survivors. the search and rescue -- it is still a search and rescue, not a recovery mission, included teams from mexico, teams from israel. they've been using top of the line cameras and hearing devices, sonar devices to sift through the devastation including hand to hand searches and dogs. this article from the "new york times" about the search stuck with us. on thursday, crews briefly heard the voice of a woman trapped somewhere under the wreckage but it went violent before they could find anyone. joining me now is the former floor dan congressman, carlos
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curbelo. he knows four people who were at the surfside towers. one is a friend of your mother, and another is a colleague. >> yeah. j.p. chavez who collaborates with the network, his grandmother and his aunt slept in the building. and his mother-in-law and her best friend was here. her best friend was here randomly staying one night. it's difficult to process. there's no one to blame. there's no explanation. everyone is just very sad but at the same time numb and waiting for more answers. >> what is the feeling there? do people want to know even if the news is bad or are they -- for every hour they don't know, are they holding out hope? >> as long as they don't knows there hope. but that lack of knowing and understanding, it also creates a lot of anxiety. so i have found that some people just want to know what happened. they would love for the bodies of their family members or
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friends to be recovered just so they know. others are still clinging on even though when they saw the way that building collapsed, a lot of people just assumed the worse. >> what did you think when you saw it? we don't see these unless it's an implosion or a terrorist attack. there are many buildings here that are 35, 40, 45, 50, 55 years old. >> never saw anything like this before. at first i said maybe there was foul play. maybe somebody did this. there is no evidence of that. another thought i had was do this have something to do with sea level rise, the ocean getting under these buildings, we don't know. the sad part is it will probably take months to get these answers. >> talk about this area. when you drive up and down colin
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collins, you see lots and lots of communities. it's south of bell harbor. there's a st. regis and a ritz up the road, but this is much more of a community and it's very diverse. >> this is beach-front property, but a lot of individuals who saved for years had condos here. this is not a condo development for the wealthy. certainly there's some wealthy people who lived there. a lot of hispanics, cuban-americans who grew up on the beach of cuba, came here and saved money to live on the beach. the jewish community had a big presence and it's miami so you had a lot of tourists from latin america. this is not just a national story but an international story because of the nature of this community. >> this is an interesting point about the tourists from south america. it's wintertime for them. it's typical for them to come to south florida. we think it can be hot here, but
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this is a big tourist season and we do know there are a lot of people from latin america who are part of that 159 who are not accounted for. >> that's right. it's the time of year when people from south florida leave and you get people from all over the world coming here. unfortunately some of those people were here maybe just for one night like my mother-in-law's friend. it's just, again, unimaginable. >> south florida has disasters. some of the best search and rescue teams in the world come from here and go to other places for hurricanes or a tornado. but in a hurricane, a tornado, an earthquake, your mind can process that's why it happened. but there's no why yet. that's difficult for our minds. >> that's right. there's a randomness to this event that makes it so hard for people to understand. we do know disasters here. every time we get a major hurricane, we know we'll lose people. none of us here can understand
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why some people who are spending a night with a friend in a random apartment building on the beach are all of a sudden gone. >> carlos, always good to see you. sorry to see you under these circumstances. >> it means a lot to us that you came. >> carlos curbelo, a former congressman from florida. joining us is lieutenant russell honore. he led one of the largest search and rescue missions in the country's history after hurricane katrina in 2005. this is work you're familiar with. this is the problem. things -- structures have been destroyed. we believe there are people who may be alive in that structure, up to 159 people. you need to get in there and try to save them without doing more damage. >> absolutely. we have the best in the world in terms of urban search and rescue right out of dade county there. they are called on to go around
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the world and they're starting to get some of the esteemed counterparts from mexico and israel as you stated earlier. the issue is that pile of debris there. and it's not stable. this work will continue for days on end trying to save peoples lives. but i think the local government and the first responders are doing all they can. the big will remain, how did this happen and what are we going to do to prevent it from happening in other buildings? >> no kidding. there are a lot of people worried about this. but for this particular rescue, there are a lot of people around here who have family members and friends among those 159 who are unaccounted for saying why aren't there thousands of people here? the volunteers have offered to go and dig through that rubble. authorities are saying that would be unsafe. there are people who want to see
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literally -- i want to ask my director to show you that site. they want that place swarmed with people, picking up rocks, putting them in wheelbarrows and having them sent away. authorities are saying that can't happen. >> we have to defer to the experts. those urban search and rescue teams know what they're doing. you move a piece of debris and you cause more problems. this is based on years of training and experience around the world and dealing with collapsed buildings that this one looked like it would be the result of an earthquake someplace. they know what they're doing. we hope and pray that the friends and families continue to show patience and prayers. but these guys know what they're doing. it's not just a function of going in and starting to pick up stuff. this is a deliberative effort based on science and technology and engineering. and they're not getting the results everybody wants, but you
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can't beat them for trying and they're doing it the right way. >> how long do rescuers keep looking for survivors when the odds of those survivors drop precipitously with every hour? >> well, there will be a point in time where the political leadership will start to speak with the first responders who are doing the search along with medical expertise. it's normally a government decision at the local level when they stop search and rescue and go to recovery. even then the work will continue to look for people who might survive. but there will come a point in time, hopefully we'll have a good day today, and they'll get some people out that might be still -- that will be hanging on inside the building. so hope is eternal here. but that's a political and a
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first responder decision. >> we have a helicopter up there. the sky is actually clear. it is not raining. so hopefully this is a good day. general, i want to ask you about something. last june 1st when i was covering the protests against the murder of george floyd, there is new reporting now that the president at the time had talked about invoking the insurrection act. there's new reporting in the new york times that responding to that interest white house aides drafted a proclamation to invoke the insurrection act in case trump did that. you're a military man who understands history, you understand the rule that the roman empire had about crossing the rubicon. there is a general feeling in the western world that the military is not used for civil law enforcement. you existed in a different circumstance because you were
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called to bring order to new orleans after katrina. but how do we evaluate this idea that donald trump was thinking about using the insurrection act to settle the protests? >> it was amateur hour in the white house. they used everything they could to try and retain power. this would have been most inappropriate and as the lawyers in the pentagon would tell you, it doesn't meet the constitutional test for using troops inside the united states. and that law is laid out pretty good. the congress and the senate has a role to play. but thank god general milley and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the secretary of defense at the time pushed back hard enough and basically told him to go shove it, they weren't doing it. >> general, good to see you. thank you for joining us. lieutenant general russell
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honore. we are standing by for a live press conference here. they do them several hours with updates. at the last update we knew four people were confirmed dead in this collapse of the condominium behind me. we also know that there were 159 unaccounted for. we are hoping both for an update on that and as general honore said perhaps some success in rescues. talking about covid for a moment. the delta variant accountstor 20% of new cases of covid in the united states and experts say it's much more vicious than what we've seen in the past. coming up next, which population is falling prey to the variant and what its spread means for recovery. onstar, we see them. okay. mother and child in vehicle. mother is unable to exit the vehicle. injuries are unknown. thank you, onstar. ♪ my son, is he okay?
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8:40 a.m. in south florida, surfside, florida. we're expecting an update from the mayor of miami-dade county any moment now. we'll keep that in the bottom corner of the screen and when that happens we'll go to it. we're hoping to learn if there's any rescues at the site and whether the number of people, 159 unaccounted for that come down or changed in any way. i'm keeping an eye on that to see what happens. we'll bring that to you live. i want to talk about something else that's been taking a lot of lives in america, the covid-19 pandemic. it's far from over. this delta variant first
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discovered in india, it's surging in the united states. dr. anthony fauci says it accounts for 20% of new cases and it's going to become the dominant variant here in weeks. meanwhile the world health organization deemed it the most transible transmissible of the variants so far and is urging people to wear masks, even if fully vaccinated. delta has been prevalent among unvaccinated americans. >> reporter: described as covid on steroids, the delta variant is sweeping the country. it's not only much more contagious, it's also more deadly. most vulnerable, the unvaccinated. which according to the cdc amounts to just under half the country. now making up the vast majority of covid hospitalizations. that included josh garza. >> it hit me pretty hard. >> reporter: within days of being admitted to the hospital with covid, the 43-year-old was told he would need a double lung transplant. >> what was in the back of my
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head, what will i do if i don't leave this hospital? what is my family going to do? >> reporter: and you had been offered the vaccine? >> i had a chance to take it, get scheduled. i didn't. i felt, you know, we were following all the guidelines, we were wearing the masks, i felt it was enough and it wasn't. >> reporter: across the country, several states are lagging behind in vaccinations. only 39% of alabama's residents have gotten one shot. >> the vast majority of our hospitalized patients for covid have been persons that are unvaccinated. we do not want to see us in alabama to get back to the numbers we had last fall and early winter where we peaked at over 3,000 persons hospitalized with covid-19. >> reporter: vaccine hesitancy is very real, particularly in communities such as racially diverse south central los angeles. >> when we think about the
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tuskegee trials, we look at the abuse and the medicalization of racism in this country, those are the things that may very well need to be addressed for peoples who openly accept the life-saving essential medicine you're offering them. >> reporter: as for garza, he's still recovering. while the double lung transplant was successful, doctors warn he'll never be 100%. regret is a heavy word. >> yes. absolutely. >> reporter: do you have regrets? >> yes, i do. that's why i -- i feel like if i'm here, you know, still on this earth to help somebody else make that decision, i would recommend, you know, at least do the research and feel comfortable about your decision. just don't bypass the actual vaccination. >> well, to make matters worse, global health officials are detecting a mutation of the delta variant called delta plus. more than 80 cases have been
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this video was released at the request of nbc and other news organizations. this defendant is just one of the many rioters, insurrectionists facing charges for their role on january 6th. the gravity of the situation is daunting on a few of them. the arizona republic reports that six proud boys may be taking a plea deal after being charged with conspiracy, unlawful entry, disorder. officer michael finone has been trying to convince republican lawmakers to investigate this insurrection, the reasons behind it and the people connected to it. kevin mccarthy finally agreed not to do those things but just to meet with him after weeks of dodging his requsts for a face-to-face meeting. imagine that. not meeting a cop whose job it is to save your life. during a private meeting, he urged mccarthy to denounce the
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lies and conspiracy theories being spread about the riot but he left the meeting supported saying mccarthy pledged to address the lies only on a personal level. republicans have been blocking any effort to form a bipartisan commission to investigate the insurrection. so on thursday, house speaker nancy pelosi announced the house will establish a select committee to look into what happened on that day. still ahead, i have much more on the deadly condo collapse from surfside, florida. plus derek chauvin sentenced to 22 1/2 years in prison but the fight involved in this is far from over. coming up next, i'll speak to an activist who helped us to see this story. maybe it's because of her that so many of us saw what happened to george floyd. here's with what george floyd's daughter had to say about her dad to the court in a prerecorded video. >> if you could say anything to your daddy right now, what would
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hopeful that an ongoing federal indictment, separate charges, will add years to chauvin's jail time. meanwhile it's more than a year since the death of floyd. but the work and activism are in full bloom. after the snansing family attorney chris stewart said he hoped floyd's spirit will bring change and he called on congress to pass the justice in policing act immediately. >> there are conversations happening between black and white that never would have happened before about policing. there are conversations happening between senators that we are pushing and urging to stand up for what you believe in. if you believe in law and order and change, then you will pass this bill because it protects everyone. we are getting off the sidelines and realizing that if you critique policing it doesn't mean you hate every cop. you want the bad cops gone. and we only will change things by leaching the sidelines and coming together in the middle no matter what color you are. >> with me now is an
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award-winning rights attorney. the minneapolis chapter of the knapp street. instrumental in making the chief of police aware of the george floyd case last year. she is the one mo texted him and says have you seen this video? nikima, how are you feeling? you knew about george floyd before most americans did. saw that video very early on, let the world know about it. how are you feeling about in sentence? >> i think that this sentence was too light in light of what derek chauvin did to george floyd. we essentially witnessed a modern day lynching on may 25th of 2020. and so the judge had an opportunity to send a message by sentencing derek chauvin to at least 30 years in prison. the maximum that he could have received was 40 years in prison. minnesota is a determinant sentencing state which means that derek chauvin will serve
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two-thirds of the 22.5 years in prison, roughly 15 years. so the last portion of his sentence will be spent under supervised release, which means he can be out in the community with his family and enjoying his life. >> do you take some solace in the fact that the federal government has gotten involved and putting civil rights -- human rights charges on this? >> absolutely. it's long overdue for the federal government to be involved. number one, in investigating the minneapolis police department through the doj's patterns and practices investigation that is now happening with regard to the minneapolis police department. but beyond that, i am thankful to know that federal civil rights charges have been filed against derek chauvin as well as the other three former officers who were involved in the murder of george floyd. so my hope is that through that
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process derek chauvin will have a linkier prison term than the one handed down by peter cahill. >> how much does this change in our world? much has changed in the last year, no question. chris stewart was right. he said there are conversations going on between white people and black people that just didn't happen before may of last year. there are conversations going on in the senate that might lead to some sort of a deal on the justice in policing act. what changes in your mind as a result of both this conviction on the sentence? >> well, i think that the changes that took place had a lot to do with, of course, the world taking to the streets to stand up for justice for george floyd, 26 million people at least took to the streets within the last year. and folks in various jurisdictions also applied pressure to their local government officials. and so for the first time we saw
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new york city end qualified immunity. we saw the state of maryland overturn its police officers' bill of rights. and we have seen some police departments that lost funding as a result of their previous behavior as well as voluminous portions of city budgets that have been used on police departments. additionally we have seen corporations say that they're going to focus more on diversity and inclusion. but the proof is in the pudding at the end of the day. we need for the federal government to take action to pass the george floyd justice in policing act, to pass the emmit till and i lynching bill and as well as focus on reparations for those who were enslaved in this country. there is a lot of work to do. it's important to reset expectations and understand that
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this whole system is not going to change based upon what officer being convicted. buts in a conviction that we can celebrate because it's been a long time in the making. and george floyd represents many victims who have never gotten justice and never sawny accountability as a result of being killed by law enforcement. >> good to see you again. thank you for joining us. an award civil rights attorney and formerment of naacp's minneapolis chapter. we're awaiting the update on the condo collapse. we will bring the press srchs as soon as it begins. search and rescue teams are scouring the rubble for survivors. none found for more than 24 hours. our coverage continuing with another hour of "velshi" right ahead. r hour of "velshi" right ahead. it's saturday june 26ing. i'm ali velshi live at the site
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of champlain towers collapse. awaiting an update here in miami-dade county county we'll bring it live to you. four people are confirmed dead. 159 remain unaccount the for, despite the heroic ongoing efforts from rchkers and first responders, no survivors have been found since thursday. nothing heard from survivors since thursday. nevertheless, officials on the ground have not lost hope. >> our firefighters have been working around the clock. sparing nothing to get to the survivors. they have hope. i have hope. please, world pray for miami, pray for surfside. >> of the known -- the four known victims of the tragedy, one of them has been identified as 54-year-old stacey fang who passed away shortly after arriving at a local hospital. she is the
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