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from msnbc headquarters, welcome to "alex witt reports". we have breaking news on the champlain tower collapse and concerns this hour over a fire still burning under the rubble after three days. >> we're facing very incredible difficulties with this fire. the fire has been going on for a while. it's a very deep fire. it's extremely difficult to locate the source of the fire. and so they've been working around the clock, these fire

rescue teams, brave men and women, under the rubble. >> so that fire is creating heavy smoke conditions, of course complicating the search for survivors. no more rescues overnight. four have tied, 11 injured, 159 remain unaccounted for. new questions today after the town of surfside released documents relating to the building, that show that in 2018 inspectors observed concrete cracking in beams and walls. and now officials are turning their attention to a nearby building. >> that building is the same design, the same building, probably the same materials, same name. i reached out to senator scott and mayor cava and expressed my

concerns about that, and asked them if they would consider helping me evacuate those people and relocate those people in that building temporarily, very temporarily, so we could get in and do a forensic study of that building. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard is joining me from surfside. that statement right there, certainly very concerning. i know we're hearing more from the people who have not just made it out of the building, but were also able to rescue some others as they made their way to safety. >> reporter: exactly. you're talking about those buildings next door. we're just lucky half of that tower, the champlain tower collapsed. there were more than 150 survivors that were able to make their way out. i want you to meet justin willis, one of those individuals who was sharing the experience of trying to help others. take a listen. >> i don't think we understand the severity of it until we walked into the hallway. so we walked into the hallway right where the elevator would be and once we turned left, you

realized that the apartment next to you is basically gone. their door was caved in, you could see out into the ocean, basically, from the top part of the building and the elevator shaft is gone. the elevator door is basically on the floor. coming into the rescue center and seeing more, like 80-year-old ladies, 90-year-old ladies that are just thankful to be here and crying and seeing the people they used to walk up and down the beach with maybe 15 years, it makes your heart break, but at the same time it makes you feel good those are the people that you helped them see another day. >> reporter: i think justin said it there. these are people that are neighbors. not only in the literal tower there that they shared with these individuals who are missing in this collapse, but also around the community. this right behind us is the new reunification center that was set up here overnight where folks, family members who are in

town have hotel rooms they're able to stay in. and before these local officials and the governor have been giving their public briefings to members of the press and the public, they've actually been meeting here in one of the hotel ballrooms with these family members, giving updates. the hardest part is the reality that it was 5:30 a.m. yesterday that the last body was recovered. it is now more than 32 hours later. you can see through the course of the day, the individuals who are desperate for information, they've been coming in and out of this hotel. but with every passing hour it's tough, especially when you're looking literally just one mile down collins avenue, you can see the smoke that is coming up from that smoldering, from those fires that these crews are still working on. because for these families here, they're waiting for information, and despite being able to see that tower just one mile down the road, they have no control over the search that is taking place. among some, there is frustration. there's desperation.

but there are more than 300 personnel that are on site that are trying to meticulously work through the scene here. you and ali velshi were talking about the situations where they're trying to work deliberately through the scene with hopes that there are still individuals who are able to survive underneath. they don't want to cause any further damage if in fact there are still living individuals underneath the rubble. >> you've got to hope and pray there are. thank you so much. joining me, david downey, chair of the international association of fire chiefs, urban search and rescue and retired miami-dade fire chief. i just have to ask, what went through your mind when you first heard about this collapse? >> well, of course, immediately i thought about how could that happen here at home. knowing that we had a very strong fire department, very

strong search and rescue team, i knew that these resources would be employed very quickly. i never imagined it happening here. after i saw the collapse, i never in 40 years have seen a building come down like that. >> i'm curious the struggles and dangers the rescue team is dealing with. miami's search and rescue teams are well respected globally. they travel to disaster sites around the world, they've helped with rescue and recovery operations. you're saying you've never seen anything like this at home. we're giving folks a live picture right now. it's stunning and heartbreaking at the same time. what are they facing as they try to dig through all of this? >> well, the ongoing complication is the threat of a secondary collapse, either collapsing void spaces that might exist or the collapse hurting the rescuers. so we're constantly monitoring that building that's still standing, although very

unsupported. also looking at the debris that's hanging off of that building, and if that could come loose and hurt the rescuers. we've dealt with weather issues, rain, lightning, and then, of course, this fire that it seems as though they've got it under control, but that has complicated the research operations as well. this is just one of those things that every time you have a problem, you work through the problem and you keep moving forward. that's what they've been doing, around the clock, 24 hours a day. >> david, if you had your drugters as we listen to the mayor talking about the situation with the building, which was built at the same time as the champlain tower that came down, using likely the same materials by the same builder, would you want to see everybody evacuated hours ago? i mean, that decision has yet to be officially made. >> i don't have any information. i don't know what the nature of the issue was in 2018 involving

this building, and so i would just be speculating. i couldn't comment on that. >> what about how long a search like this can go on? at what point does it shift from rescue to recovery? i mean, is there a breaking point? >> there's absolutely going to be a transition. it's going to have to happen. a lot of factors are taken into place. the type of collapse, the type of extraneous issues, including the fire, including the water, and also the presence or absence of void spaces. all of those things are being looked at in an effort to make the determination. and the determination may not be all or nothing. in other words, there may be sections where they transition to recovery and sections they say we're continuing to actively perform rescue operations. there's no hard timeline, but it's a methodical approach. having sat in that seat and had to make that decision twice in

my career, it's an incredibly hard decision to make and you want to take all the factors into play. >> david, you said you don't know some of the details. let me just ask you your gut opinion on this, because i'm going to remind our viewers this 2018 report that you mentioned there, it's been cited in "the new york times" that an engineer warned of major structural damage at the florida complex and urged the managers to repair cracked columns and crumbling concrete. the work was finally about to get under way when the building collapsed. so that finally part is what i would love to get your thoughts on. three years passing between this warning, this report being issued, and the work scheduled to get under way. it seems like an extraordinarily long amount of time, that this should have been addressed sooner. do you concur with that? >> well, obviously if there were

issues, serious issues that were detected, i would expect that they were addressed as early as possible. again, though, i don't know the nature of the issues, i don't know the nature of the problem. there's a lot of factors that come into play. i'm not an expert in that area. certainly these things have to be looked at. people in our industry are going to be very interested to learn, to find out what brought this building down and we hope that we can learn from this so we can help the thousands, hundreds of thousands of structures that are literally in the same boat as this structure. >> david, if you were there working in a rescue and recovery operation right now, what would be the first thing on your mind? what would you be doing? >> well, the first thing on my mind is, you know, developing our strategy, making sure we understand the breadth of the collapse, what are the boundaries, what are the areas, searching the surface, and then

drilling down into those void spaces. so developing a very not cool, very systematic, deliberate plan in order to effect as much rescue as possible. that's what's taken place right now. and they're doing it as i would do it. they're doing it as i would have implemented the plan. they're starting to layer some of the large pieces of concrete and see if they can unearth any other void spaces. again, this is a process that takes a considerable amount of time. and when you have evacuations from lightning strikes and the fire, it just complicates things. but the rescuers still have hope. i asked the families to still have hope. we're going to make sure that we work as hard as we can to find any survivor that's in there. >> last question to you, david. when i look at the video from underneath, i don't know if it's a basement or a first floor or a

parking garage, but you see a dozen or so fire and rescue teams there. how precarious is that work? could that building literally come down at any time? we're giving our viewers a look at that right now. >> that's one of the biggest fears, is the possibility of the building coming down. our teams utilize structural specialists, engineers that are trained to look at these buildings and they help us make the decisions whether we're going to go, not go, or what we need to do to stabilize it. in that picture you'll see these gold-looking struts. those were struts that were put in by the rescue team to stabilize part of that structure so that they could work. an incredible risk, but these risks are calculated, these risks are measured. when we're looking for life, we're going to take those risks. >> david, you represent an amazing bunch of heroes, let me tell you. thank you so much for talking to us. appreciate you. now let's take a look at today's other big headlines.

in washington, less than 24 hours after the white house bipartisan lawmakers struck a major deal on infrastructure, new reporting suggests that plan may already be on the verge of collapse. republicans are reportedly furious after president biden made clear he would not sign that bipartisan bill without a separate reconciliation bill passed along with it. the white house scrambling to save the deal. it comes as congress is also gearing up to move full stream ahead with a select committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. the house is set to set this week for who will be on the committee. some democrats are concerned about who republicans will pick. >> you know, it wouldn't shock me if he chose jim jordan, marjorie taylor greene. he's got quite a collection of characters to choose from. it's not my expectation, given kevin mccarthy's past practice, that he'll do anything other than bend the knee to donald trump. in fact, we probably can expect that donald trump over the next

few days will issue recommendations as to who he thinks should be on this committee, and kevin mccarthy will follow those recommendations, hook, line and sinker. that's not going to stop us from uncovering the truth. >> vice president harris, fresh off a visit to el paso, her first trip to the southern border since being tasked by the president to lead efforts on immigration and stem the flow of migrants making the dangerous trek. it comes after months of pressure and criticism from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. the vp emphasizing her focus is on the root causes of immigration, drawing stark contrast to the previous administration's border policies. >> when we have this conversation about what's happening at the border, let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about human beings. and so let's recognize with a sense of humanity that these issues must be addressed in a way that is informed by fact and

informed by reality. >> joining me now is texas congressman veasey, a director of the house services and director of energy and house committees. welcome back. it's good to see you. we're going to talk about the vice president's trip to the border in just a few moments. i want to start by getting your thoughts on the doj's lawsuit challenging georgia's voting restrictions. how strong a case does the doj have? >> yeah, no, absolutely, as chair of the voting rights caucus i am elated to see they are doing this. obviously the blatant maneuver to try and strip african-americans of the same right to vote as white citizens in that state is pretty obvious, and a lot of it relates to the big lie that was told that the reason why republicans and donald trump lost georgia and lost the senate races was because of fraud being committed in places like atlanta, and, you know, what's even worse, i

think, is that a lot of these bills were passed ten years ago to try to do the same thing. now that african-americans are taking advantage of, for instance, vote by mail there in the state, they want to try to scale it back. it's absurd and i'm glad that the justice department is really taking notice of this and they've gotten involved. we need to continue to watch what's going to happen in texas. i don't know if you know, alex, but on july the 8th governor abbott has called the texas legislature back into session and we expect just as bad, if not worse, of a bill to be passed here in the lone star state and we would hope that the doj would get involved there as well. >> listen, there's been a lot of back and forth on that texas bill with the legislature walking out and the governor saying you're not going to get paid for walking out. it's been very antagonistic. the doj's message then to texas is what? if they're doing this in georgia and coming after georgia, would

you expect that texas would be next, if they're successful? >> i do think that texas would definitely be next. but in order to help the doj do their job the right way, we have to pass hr-4, the john lewis restore the voting rights act. that absolutely has to be passed. i want viewers out there to know that the republicans are deliberately trying to get these bills passed before we can get hr-4 signed into law because they purposely want to do this so they can say that when they passed their law that this hr-4 was not in place and the voting rights act had already been gutted. they know exactly what they're doing. they're in a race against the clock and we need to be acting as if we're in a race against the clock. i can tell you for the next ten years, particularly as it relates to redistricting, and

not just the ten years during the redistricting maps, but each cycle, as each cycle progresses, you're going to see more and more aggression from places like georgia, places like texas and other states. you'll see them follow suit to try to make it harder for minorities to vote if we do not pass hr-4. i'm glad the doj is doing what they're supposed to be doing. i think that the people that are in place now are going to do a good job of making sure that all people's votes matter and all people's votes count. but we in congress need to help them do their job bypassing hr-4. >> let's go back and revisit the vice president's trip to el paso. let's take a listen to what kamala harris had to say about the reason behind her visit to the u.s.-mexico border. >> we have to deal with causes and effects. so being in guatemala, talking

with mexico as a partner, was talking about addressing the causes and looking at the effects of what we have seen happening in central america. i'm glad to be here, it was always the plan to come here. >> how do you assess the administration's efforts so far at the border? >> i think vice president harris is right on. i visited guatemala, i've visited honduras before and the conditions there and the corruption in those countries is absolutely terrible and you have to get to the root cause and make sure that we're working with those countries and making it clear to them that they have to clean their act up when it comes to corruption. i know that the vice president is also talking about u.s. companies making an investment there so people will have opportunities to pull themselves out of poverty in those countries. and ultimately, alex, what we have to do is pass a comprehensive immigration reform that will give people the

opportunity to apply for asylum in their home countries, but also deal with the reality on the ground here in america. i mean, people have to remember that when we sit down to eat every evening, it's because of people from places like guatemala and honduras and the fact that they've been working in these meat processing plants, they've been working on these farms. when houses get built here in the great state of texas, it's because people that come from central america and mexico probably built the house and there's a demand for the type of services that they provide and passing a comprehensive reform bill that reflects that is the way we need to go. i love what the vice president is doing. i think that her trip, you know, is obviously great for texas, and also that it sends a message that the administration is taking immigration seriously and

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some new fallout after former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin was sentenced to 22 1/2 years behind bars. that is more than state guidelines recommend, but certainly less than what prosecutors wanted. nbc's shaquille brewster joins us from minneapolis. how is the floyd family responding to the sentencing? >> reporter: you know, you have a mixed reaction from the family as well initially. and when they were in court, especially during the victim impact statements, the emotional statements where we heard from the daughter of george floyd, from george floyd's brothers, and also his nephew, they made

clear when they were talking to the judge that they wanted to see a maximum penalty imposed for derek chauvin. we also heard in some interviews ahead of the sentencing hearing the family attorney saying they wanted to get 30 years at least that prosecutors were asking for. we did hear from them afterwards. i want you to listen to what we heard from them right after the sentencing, what they told reporters outside the courtroom. >> i just want to reiterate, not just black lives matter, all lives matter. we need to stand up a fight. can't get comfortable, because when you get comfortable, people forget about you. >> 22 1/2 years is not enough. we were served a life sentence. we can't get george back. >> i don't think any sentence would be enough because what truly would be justice would be for us to be able to have george back. but with that being said, i would just like to take this time to thank the countless number of people that have been supportive of us since the very

beginning. >> reporter: so you definitely heard that appreciation and the fact that derek chauvin is going to jail for a period of time that's longer than perhaps the sentencing guidelines suggest. but they also have that -- they're not satisfied, they're also saying they're not satisfied completely because they wanted that maximum sentence. that was a sentiment that you also heard from some of the demonstrators out in front of the courthouse yesterday. we also saw some small demonstrations throughout downtown minneapolis from people who said they wanted to see the larger sentence. when you listen to what legal experts say and the justification of why the judge didn't go to the 30 years or maximum 40 year penalty, they say essentially it's to preserve the case and sentence in case this gets appealed. cahill went ten years above the suggested sentence. they say if he went any higher, many legal experts say that would have opened the door for an appellate court to essentially overturn the sentence. so it was a matter of making

sure it was a sentence that wasn't based on emotion. you heard this from the judge on the bench yesterday, it wasn't based on emotion and based simply on the facts and what has previously been done and what he can point to in case law. that's what you have there. but bottom line is that derek chauvin, the officer convicted of murdering george floyd, he will spend a significant amount of time in prison. you have that 22 1/2 year sentence, which means with how things go here in minneapolis and minnesota, he'll likely spend about 14 years behind bars. >> thank you so much for that. joining me is writer and editor for msnbc daily. welcome to the show. what was your initial reaction to the sentencing? >> my initial reaction to the sentencing was that this could have been a lot more lenient on chauvin. like i'm glad that he got punishment that felt appropriate for the crime. now, whether or not it could have been more, that is debatable.

but i feel like anything less would have been a real slap in the face for a lot of people out there. 22 1/2 years is nothing to sneeze at. it's a stronger sentence than we've seen in basically any cases of police officers, or in this case a former police officer who have killed people while in the line of duty, who have murdered black people. so it's a step in the right direction and i was interested in how shaq was talking about how the judge had to rely on case law. the next time this happens, this sentence can be shown as a fair and reasonable sentence, to then build upon the next time, because there will be a next time a former police officer is on trial like that. >> you're right, this will go into case law history and be studied as well. let me talk about what happened after the sentencing. one of the lawyers for the floyd family reflected on the impact

of this case. take a look at what was said. >> there are conversations happening between black and white that never would have happened before about policing. there are conversations happening between senators that we are pushing and urging to stand up for what you believe in. if you believe in law and order and change, then you will pass this bill because it protects everyone. we are getting off the sidelines and realizing that if you critique policing, it doesn't mean you hate every cop. it means you want the bad cops gone. and we'll change things by leaving the sidelines and coming together in the middle. >> thoughtful assessment right there. do you agree? is that a fair assessment? >> i think so in the sense that we are seeing conversations that would not have been taking place two, three, five years ago. even after ferguson, even after everything that we've seen in terms of the growth and development of the black lives matter movement. we are seeing conversations that

would not have happened had it not been for the george floyd murder and protests that followed it. he mentioned senators having discussions, tim scott, republican of south carolina, believes that the deal on police reform is near at hand. the fact that they're still pushing to try and find some way to get the bill through the senate, it's welcome to me. will it be as good a bill as i would like? probably not. but i'm glad they're working on something still. >> this is one case. there are many, many, many others, and there was a pretty heartfelt statement that was offered by jacob blake sr., relative to his son and the kind of thing that he wants for his son and how he defines justice. take a listen to this. it's pretty profound. i thought we had that sound to play. let me tell you, it almost brought me to tears. i was listening to him and he

cried when he talked about what this meant, and he said he was beseeching people just in general, why do we not have the kind of justice that we deserve? and it was so painful to watch him cry over this. you know, you've got to react to that because he's right. >> yeah, absolutely. and i think that what's going to be really interesting moving forward is i think it's going to be interesting to see how this affects police officers moving forward, whether this actually acts as a deterrent. one of the things that we've heard for years is the reason we need police to be hard on crime is to deserve as a deterrent to criminals. does that work in the reverse? does it work if the police, former police officers like derek chauvin getting punished for the things that they do, will that deter other police officers, or will it make them more likely to try and hide things, make it more likely to not cooperate with the legal system? will it make it so that the blue

silence that we see normally around police officers and misdeeds, that wall of protection that they circle around themselves, will that be strengthened or weakened? and all that matters because when black people see the ways that the police protect themselves, that they don't then offer to people they should be protecting, that makes you wary and unsure whether or not the police are actually fighting for you, and that brings you to the point that we're at right now where we're calling for major reforms to policing. >> always thoughtful conversation with you. thank you so much. how long could someone survive in that collapsed building in miami? we're going to examine that question next. and a new study sounds an alarm about life expect aens among minorities. sadly, it is no surprise to medical experts.

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apartment building collapse, heavy smoke conditions are hampering the nonstop rescue efforts that's coming from a fire under the rubble that's been burning since thursday. family members and officials are hoping for a breakthrough. >> we're facing incredible difficulties with the fire. the fire has been going on for a while. it's a very deep fire. it's extremely difficult to locate the source of the fire. and so they've been working around the clock, these fire rescue teams, these brave men and women, under the rubble. >> a 2018 engineering report showed the building was resting on a concrete structural slab that had major structural damage and needed to be extensively repaired. i want to bring in msnbc medical contributor, founder and ceo of advancing health equity.

it's good to talk with you. let's talk about the surfside, florida, building collapse. officials are saying this is a search and rescue. when you see these images, put into perspective how someone can survive this, being trapped in the rubble with all the toxic things that would be around. >> thank you, and let me say how devastating this is and condolences to the families. i would say that three days is typically the amount of time that people can go without water. it actually also depends on an individual's health status, their age, and other medical problems. i would say that this weekend is the most critical time. there are people who likely died immediately from the impact, we call it blunt force trauma to vital organs like the brain or heart or the lungs, but other people who may be in an air

pocket really can survive three to five days. and so, again, the search and rescue committee, this weekend is such a critical time. knowing that there is the fire, the smoke, we also worry about carbon monoxide poisoning for people who may still be under the rubble. so i would say that chances are very slim, but we've seen people survive collapses like these before. so i would keep the hope high, but also recognize that the next few days are incredibly critical. >> definitely, it's a race against the clock. that's for sure. let's move to the troubling news in the coronavirus pandemic this week, because there's new research which shows among the many impacts of covid is a decrease in life expectancy across the u.s. and it is black and hispanic americans that will suffer the most. let's take a look at the numbers from 2018 to 2020, the life expectancy for hispanic americans has decreased by

almost four years. for black americans, it's down about three and a quarter years. for white americans, down about one and one-third years. so you have this during the pandemic, and we've discussed certainly how communities of color were being disproportionately impacted. they're now still feeling the brunt. why is this happening? >> so i want to give people some context. typically from year to year, life expectancy may change by a few months. so the fact that life expectancy for all racial groups in this country have changed a magnitude of years is incredibly significant. and then looking at black and hispanic groups, it's devastating. i think what we see there, we see the impact of systemic racism. systemic racism kills and we're seeing the impact of racism and what we call social determinants of health, jobs, housing, transportation, access to healthy foods, access to health

care. and in those numbers we're seeing the impact of those factors. i think in the long-term, i know in the long-term what is needed is reinvestment in these communities. what we've seen is really a legacy of processes and policies that have led to underinvestment and lack of investment in black and hispanic communities and now we're seeing the impact of that on the health status of these communities. >> i'm curious about the research which shows the pandemic is going to have long-lasting effects on health in america, leaving millions of people to live sicker, die younger. it's going to exacerbate the discrepancies already seen between the wealth and health of black and hispanic americans and those of white americans. can you put into perspective how this is about more than just health and how do you square this with those people who still say they don't want to get a vaccine, and if they get covid they think they can survive it? >> the social determinants, we've seen black and hispanic

people in this country lose jobs at a rate that is disproportionate. we've seen people delay health care or seeking health care as a result of the pandemic. and so i think that over the next few years we are going to see these long-lasting impacts. so what i will say about people who are still refusing the vaccine is that this is complicated. it's not simple. people are traumatized by racism. they're traumatized by their inability to trust or not trust institutions because our social institutions have not always been trustworthy to these communities. so what it's about is really building trust, engaging with communities, realizing that people are not going to change their mind overnight. but i believe the biden administration is headed in the right direction in terms of partnering with community-based

organizations to really engaging with communities, encouraging vaccine outreach and education and continuing that and realizing that's not going to change overnight. >> doctor, as expected, a very thoughtful answer to all the questions. thank you. a capitol police officer severely injured in the january 6th insurrection, finally gets a leader with house leader kevin mccarthy. was it worth his time? we'll give you answers next. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. did you know prilosec otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins? heartburn happens when stomach acid refluxes into the esophagus. prilosec otc uses a unique delayed-release formula

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mio... water tastes like, well...water. so we fixed it. mio. developing right now, fallout from a meeting between a dc metropolitan police officer and house republican leader kevin mccarthy. the officer who was injured in the january 6th attack said he was disappointed after that meeting. let's go to amanda golden on capitol hill with more on this. what was the officer hoping to achieve? >> reporter: alex, as you know, there was serious back and forth between officer michael fanone

trying to schedule this meeting with republican house leader kevin mccarthy. going into this meeting yesterday, they spent about an hour together in mccarthy's office and fanone was looking for concrete commitments, including hearing from mccarthy denouncements of republican lawmakers who have been spreading conspiracy theories about the insurrection we saw take place on january 6th, as well as calling out those 21 house republicans who voted against awarding the congressional gold medal to police officers who defended the capitol on that day. the other commitment he was looking for was to hear from mccarthy condemnation from congressman andrew clyde for comments he said, indicating that it was a normal tour day here on capitol hill. when mccarthy was looking for a response to fanone, fanone relayed to reporters mccarthy said he would address specific issues with specific members privately. he did not respond to larger commitments fanone was looking for. when he was exciting from his

office, here a some of what he told reporters about the meeting. >> i'm tired. i'm just mentally and physically exhausted. i'm ready to go home and drink a beer. >> hell, no. >> i asked him for some specific commitments. one of them was to take the select committee seriously and appoint serious participants, not obstructionists. >> reporter: as the officer alluded to, the other news is that house speaker nancy pelosi has said that the house will bring about a select committee to investigate what took place on january 6th here at the capitol. that's after senate republicans last month did block that independent bipartisan commission that was going to investigate the events leading up to and through the insurrection. but in getting a commitment back

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some new signs this weekend that donald trump's business could be facing great legal jeopardy. multiple people familiar with the matter tell nbc news the trump organization could be hit with criminal charges by the manhattan district attorney as soon as next week. this would be against the company, not mr. trump himself. in a statement, a lawyer for the company said quote, the corporate office will plead not guilty and we will make an immediate motion to dismiss the case. joining me now is suzanne craig, investigative reporter for "the new york times," a big welcome to you. so your colleagues at the

"times" were the first to report on these developments. tell me what you've learned about what could be the main focus of these charges. >> i think immediately, there's a lot that they're looking at and immediately what they're zeroing in on is what's known as, it's called noncash compensation, when you get, you're an employee, and you get a perk as part of your employment, let's say you get a car, you get an apartment, these things need to be disclosed to the irs because they're considered compensation. they're just not cash. and what the manhattan d.a. is zeroing in on is were these perks disclosed at all or properly. and that's what i think we're going to see coming in the next week or two, possibly it looks like this week, in terms of charges, potentially both against the trump organization and against the company's chief financial officer, a gentleman by the name of allen weisselberg. >> in a statement, an attorney for the trumps said that quote, it looks like they're going to

come down with charges against the company, that is completely outrageous. they could not get allen weisselberg to cooperate and tell them what they wanted to hear and that's why they're going forward with these charges. is there any evidence to back up the claim, any evidence you've seen? i'm curious what this could mean for weisselberg. >> it could mean a lot both for weisselberg and the trump organization. if you start with allen weisselberg, he has been an individual that the manhattan d.a. has been hoping to get to cooperate and that hasn't happened. charges up the ante on that. that could still happen, they could get cooperation frim from him with a reduced charge or additional charges layered on and i think you will see superseding or subsequent charges in summer, both against allen weisselberg and the trump organization and others and for the trump organization, this is very serious, criminal charges are, could be crippling to a firm, and they're looking at, you know, you not only have to, if you're found guilty at the

end, there will be fines, there could be a monitor put on the business, but there is something known as collateral consequence and that's the things that happen outside of the courtroom, that are very serious, and when you have, i think the main thing for the trump organization that they will be concerned about is lending, they already have, you know, we have a lot of work and we've seen a lot of tax information from donald trump, he has more than, his companies do more than $600 million in debt. a lot of that, hundreds of millions is recourse to him. if he can't get loans because of this, or he has difficulty getting loans, that will spell a lot of trouble for the trump organization. this is not a company that is in great shape, fortune 500 company, and their finances, they are not doing well, so this is just going to layer on a huge, huge issues for them going forward. >> i know that according to the "times" reporting that mr. trump's lawyers met with senior prosecutors, they were hoping to

get them to abandon this inquiry and any plans to charge the company. how do you interpret that? >> i think that's pretty standard when you have, due often have companies saying, yeah, you've got us, i mean they're going in, and i think what they're doing though is they're publicly telegraphing in advance that they feel they have a very strong position, and what i read into this is this is going to be one hell of a fight this summer. this is going to continue on, and it's going to be very open. it's going to be, argued very publicly and very openly all summer, with the manhattan d.a., as the manhattan d.a. marches towards potentially other things and you have to think this is one charge, they have donald trump's eight years of his taxes, they have notes that have gone back and forth between the trump organization and his accountants. they've got a myriad other information, and they are trying to put that together. this is just one piece. i mean i can't imagine we are not going to see additional charges, and additional issues come up all summer leading towards something big in the fall. >> but the "times" reporting

says it has yet to be made clear whether or not donald trump himself will face any charges. what quickly is the likelihood of that? >> you know, this is going to be my analysis. i think right now, they're looking at the trump organization as a way, i don't know to potentially avoid that but there are political issues around trump, charging him and they may be saying, let's now go after the trump organization, rather than him but i don't think we can preclude that we may see charges against him, you know, towards the end of the summer. we just don't know and i think it's important to say what we know and what we don't know and that's still i think just to be determined. but this is very serious, what's happening potentially in the coming weeks. >> as things are revealed, susanne craig, please come back and speak with us about what you uncover. thank you very much, from "the new york times." >> thank you. a warning for millions of americans this weekend that if they don't take heed, it could be a deadly mistake. t. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this...

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new today, some extreme heat warnings for millions in the northwest, as record-breaking temperatures are expected this weekend. let's go to msnbc in portland, oregon, where it could get hotter than 100 degrees today. welcome to you. what are people doing to prepare for the excessive heat? >> right, alex, in fact, it could get up to 110-plus degrees over the weekend, here in portland. people are doing whatever they can, you got to think about the

fact that normally mid june is about 75 degrees here, so it's a lot hotter than what they're used to. this region is just not prepared to deal with this type of heat. so this weekend, there's going to be a real challenge. the pacific northwest is bracing for scorching heat from california, to washington state. >> we're going to be staying inside. it's going to be triple digits. >> reporter: cities like portland, spokane and seattle, are preparing for an unprecedented heat wave expected to reach over to idaho. >> this is going to set records. this is going to be the hottest that has ever been experienced in human history in this region in the world. >> reporter: it's estimated 24 million residents in the pacific northwest are under heat alerts, with temperatures expected to break june records, reaching 113 degrees in washington, and oregon, and 114 degrees in idaho. >> when you're talking about temperatures that are this high, every degree makes a real big difference in terms of the impacts on people. >> we want people to watch out