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to the continuation of the search and rescue process. we've continued all night to build that trench. and as a result of that we were able to recover four additional bodies in the rubble. as well as additional human remains. >> now at the same time a new push is under way to temporarily evacuate the champlain north tower near the collapsed building. >> it was decided that we would not evacuate the building but give residents the choice and offer them an alternative because of their justified fears of living at least for right now in a building that they don't understand or don't know is safe or not. and, quite frankly, i think we all understand that. i think given what's happened and given this building just fell down out of nowhere, which was completely inexplicable, i think those fears are justified. >> so the death toll is now officially at nine but more than 150 people remain unaccounted
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for. florida's governor says signs of progress will soon become more visible. >> potentially rescuing somebody is the name of the game. you're going to see a lot of debris moved out of there. there's a site that's located, the debris does have forensic value and that will be parsed once it's taken, there's a big warehouse that's identified and some of the dump trucks to be able to move that out as appropriate. >> a statement from the consulting company that inspected the south tower. more say they found something cracks and breaks in the concrete which required repairs to ensure the safety of the residents and the public adding roof repairs were under way. however, concrete restoration
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had not yet begun. the condo association is also reacting to the collapse. here is what its attorney told nbc's sam brock. >> this is not unique in terms of having concrete problems. if there is an engineer who believes concrete pitting and falling and rebar deterioration poses a hazardous risk to the building and a risk of collapse, that needs to be clear. that needs to be in big, bold, red letters. >> miami-dade county now jound taking an immediate audit of all buildings 40 years and older to be completed within 30 days. to nbc's chris pallone who is joining me now from surfside. welcome to you on this sunday. some new signs of momentum there. this is a desperate race against the clock. >> reporter: they're starting to make progress on the pile, these search and rescue teams as you
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outlined at the beginning here. they've been able to dig a trench into the pile more than 40 feet deep in the pile allowing them to get to parts of the debris which ultimately led to the additional four bodies that was just announced in the press conference. the total now stands at nine confirmed dead, sets of remains have been recovered. they are in the process of being identified at this peart but finally over the last 12 to 24 hours we're seeing some progress where firefighters, search and rescue teams, are able to recover some of the bodies. public officials are still striking a positive tone saying they believe that there are pockets, crevices, holes, where somebody could be alive in the rubble. families understand that as time passes that is less and less likely and officials in the last
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hour revealed the firefighter in charge of the search said they aren't finding any crevices or holes at this point where they might find somebody alive. i'm at the family reunification center where the 150 families are waiting for word on their loved ones, getting a sense from the surfside mayor about what their mood is, what those families are asking about when they meet with public officials. >> there's many emotions in that room. there are a lot of questions that are getting answered now. i went to that -- we've been updating the families all along butter on in the process during one of the updates i asked them what they needed and they said less politicians coming to talk. and they wanted to hear from the experts and the rescue teams doing the work and they wanted their questions answered. we don't have a resource
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problem. we have a luck problem. we need some more luck. we need good weather. we need fewer fires. and we need some miracles. >> reporter: the administrator of fema criswell is here today on behalf of the biden white house. she is also meeting with some of the families. the federal government is providing some aid, so the people displaced from the building, for the families of the people missing, and you mentioned at the top there's also the opportunity for people who live in a sister building not far from the collapse site, if they want to evacuate out of fear something may be going wrong with their building or it may be structurally unsound, no indication of that, those people will receive some assistance if they want to relocate for the time being, alex. >> chris, do you have any idea how many people remain in that north tower? it would stand to reason they would have bolted some time ago
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because of what happened so close to them. >> reporter: it's hard to tell. we do know some families immediately after the collapse relocated themselves for a little while and then others came back. others said they're not leaving at all. there's own another tower -- so the north tower is the most similar to the one that collapsed. it's just a little smaller footprint, a little bit fewer units than the one that collapsed, but there's actually an east tower that was built some time after the original two. obviously that is being inspected. the concern is not as high about that one. at this point some people have left. they've come back. it's unclear exactly how many are leaving for good at this point. >> you have to wonder how well they are sleeping if they're sleeping in that tower. that's for sure. thank you, chris pallone. we'll see you again. joining me right now the mayor of miami-dade county. madam mayor, it has been a hell of a few days for you and i thank you for spending some time with us. we did air your news conference this last hour, but can you update the statistics for our
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viewers now? give us a sense where things stand with the rescue operation? >> we are at 130 that are accounted for. 146 unaccounted for and nine confirmed dead. >> so we've heard much about this trench that you described. give us a sense of its purpose and also how dangerous it is getting this thing cut into this collapsed pile of rubble. >> i think it's really important that they were able to build this trench. they did it during a time that was overwhelming and trying to create also a separation so they could go to the side of the
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trench that had less smoke. and clearly this has become a major conduit with different layers and playerses where there may be crevices and they were able to find some bodies. this is all dangerous. these teams are in there taking risks on our behalf and on behalf of these families and loved ones. it's incredible what they're doing. they have to be careful it doesn't collapse. >> the ability to bring peace to loved ones, if their loved ones have passed, certainly, but when you talk about having hope and thinking that there may be crevices, have they identified anything right now that is showing tremendous promise, or are they still looking for something? >> these rescue workers are proceeding on the assumption
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they will still be able to find people. that is why we are in the search and rescue phase. we have to stand with them. we have to pray with them, and we have to have hope with them. >> amen to that. you may have heard me talk to go my colleague chris about a temporary move, those who care to evacuate the north champlain tower. do you know how many residents are still living there or saying we want to get out for a while? >> what i heard from the mayor earlier was that nobody had taken up the offer of assistance. >> interesting. let me ask you about what we he also heard which was from the attorney representing the champlain south tower condo board. and, yes, there was the report that was created in 2018. we've all become somewhat familiar with that. how familiar did the board become with that? do we know exactly how any concerns were expressed within the report that they submitted? it seems like the attorney is suggesting that things needed to be highlighted better.
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to quote her, she said it should have been in big, bold, red letters. >> yes, i just want to be clear here that i'm focused on the safety of those who are in the rubble. beyond that we have numerous engineers here from the federal, state, local level assessing what's going on in the building and also monitoring it during the rescue operation and we know that we need to assess this so it never happens again and we're going to be doing that at the county level and we'll be working with our municipalities to do the same. >> you've given a 30-daytime frame, look at every building -- is it 40 years and older? where does the threshold lie for inspection? >> correct. we're talking buildings over five stories and we're talking about those ready for their 40-year recertification or subsequent recertification. we want to be sure that everything is up to date. >> okay. with regard, again, to that report in 2018 and there was some roof repair under way, it
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would appear the pool deck, which was reportedly included in 2018's report about the precarious nature of it, that is where things may have begun the collapse of the south tower. again, not confirmed. there's anecdotal evidence but it would stand to reason if that was cited in a report it was relatively unstable. do you know anything about repair work and how they would assess where they would begin to make repairs? the roof versus a pool deck foundation? >> this is a city building, and we know the city is on it but we, of course, all want to know everything we can possibly learn about this so we can create any legislative changes necessary to shore up what may have helped to avoid this tragedy and when the investigation proceeds i know we'll learn much more about it. >> when we talk about, tragically, those still
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unaccounted for, can you describe very generally if there is an age demographic, sort of top to bottom, that you believe you're waiting to hear from? and if there's a chance some people have gotten out and still have yet to communicate with a loved one to say i'm safe? >> yes, thank you. it's really important to understand that unaccounted doesn't necessarily mean they were in the building. these reports of somebody who lived there but maybe was somewhere else, it may be people that they thought were visiting, and at the same time there may be people who were there people don't know were there. so it's a very fluid number. >> do you have a sense whether this particular tower housed primary versus secondary home residence? >> we know this is obviously a building that's been there 40-plus years and a lot of people were regular homeowners.
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there were also regular visitors. i don't have that exact breakdown but many, many of these residents were known in the community. these are friends and neighbors, co-workers, people who went to temple or church together. i have been overwhelmed with contacts by people i know in this building one way or the other. >> yes. this certainly has to be an excruciating wait for the families of those missing. how are you helping the relatives? what's this been like for you as well? >> so i am a social worker as well as an attorney and, of course, my first concern was to support these families. we have brought in every possible resource for them. they've not had to worry about where they're staying, their food. counseling is available to them. pastoral care and volunteers of every stripe are there to assist
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them. so much so that we obviously have to do a good job to make sure that they can understand who is there and who they want to talk with. so we've been holding regular meetings with the family members, giving them a large amount of detailed information about the search, about the dna process, everything that they want to know to help them feel -- to be reassured that we are leaving no stone unturned. >> mayor of miami-dade county, daniella levine cava, i have to say from our perspective you've been a beacon of hope and competency. thank you very much for your time. so at this hour the numbers remain 9 dead, 156 unaccounted for. we'll, of course, bring you the latest updates as they come to us here at msnbc. let's take a look at the other top stories of the day including a clarification of sorts at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. president biden walking back the statement he made just a few days ago regarding that
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bipartisan infrastructure deal. initially saying he wouldn't sign it unless a broader reconciliation. he said he will sign it regardless. republicans reacting this morning commending the president's move. >> we were blind sided by the comments the previous day which were that somehow the two bills were connected. it was a surprise, to say the least, that they got linked. i'm glad they've been delinked and we can move forward with a bipartisan bill that's broadly popular. progressive democrats are holding their cards close on whether they would support the bipartisan package without a bigger bill alongside it and where they are drawing the line. >> while we can welcome this work and welcome collaboration with republicans and in those areas where there is agreement, republicans are more than welcome to join so that we can
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get this work on infrastructure done. but that doesn't mean that the president should be limited by republicans particularly when we have a house majority, 50 senators and the white house, and i believe we can make sure he's successsuccessful. also on capitol hill, house members are set to vote on a select committee to investigate the january 6 insurrection. there are new concerns over who will sit on it as one controversial republican is raising her hand. >> would you like to serve, to be on the committee? >> sure. that would be great. >> and you would show up and ask questions? >> absolutely. of course i would. >> and joining me now is california congresswoman barbara lee, a democratic member of the house appropriations and budget committees. welcome back to the broadcast. thank you for joining me, congresswoman. so if marjorie taylor greene is on the committee would it make a
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mockery of it? do you think democrats would stand for it? >> alex, let me take a moment to send my prayers to the family and residents in surfside. i watched your report. i tell you, it's heartbreaking. i just want everyone to know that my constituents, just like everyone throughout the country, stand ready to do whatever we can do to help in the process and the brave first responders who under such dire circumstances, it's so hard to do anything from afar but i just want to say that we're ready to help in any way possible and we're continuing to pray during the search and rescue mission. >> good for you. appreciate that. >> we all are feeling this. >> absolutely. >> it's devastating. let me just say with regard to -- >> marjorie taylor greene. >> it's quite amazing that she
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wants to be on it, she would be on it, and that's up to leader mccarthy if he decides to place her on it. but i think we'll have strong democrats who understand the importance of this, will bring forth the facts. it's too bad the senate did not support the bipartisan commission because we have to get to the bottom of this. i hope that mccarthy makes it bipartisan and he has to decide who he wants on the select committee. but we have to get to the bottom of this and conduct a full and thorough investigation. >> and let me just confirm relative to marjorie taylor greene, it's my understanding she serves on no committees right now because of her outlandish behavior and rhetoric in the past six months. so just confirming that. no committees and yet she wants to serve on the select committee. >> that's correct. >> do you think it should be made up evenly between democrats and republicans? >> again, that's up to the speaker.
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hopefully, first of all, republicans will participate. we're not sure they will at this point. i was sitting on the floor january 6, right there on the floor in front of the podium, and this was a harrowing experience. these insurrectionists were there to kill people. they were supporters of donald trump. we cannot allow them to get away with this. we have to understand and investigate the causes and what took place and move forward so this will never happen again. so however the speaker determines the select committee should be established and who should be on it i think is so important we get to the bottom of this because this is not going away. white supremacy is the greatest national security threat. this select committee has to dig deep and come up with the recommendations and the truth
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about what took place on january 6th. >> new analysis in "the washington post" that says democrats pushed hard last year to rein in police. a rise in murders is prompting a shift. the first example is minneapolis where a year ago the city council pledged to disband the police department but now the mayor there wants to replenish the police force. also in new york a year ago city activists were chanting defund the police and now a leading candidate in the mayoral race is running on a law and order platform. so would you say that "the washington post" headline is a fair assessment of where things stand? what i would say, alex, we have got to pass these gun safety measures. we have got to pass the loophole. we have to pass the bills for background checks.
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we have to make sure that, here in california, a judge ruled the assault weapons are allowed on the streets, weapons of war. and so i think the big piece right now is to make sure that these guns, that these ghost guns and i talked with the police chief in my district, in oakland in terms of gun violence, it starts with getting these guns off of the street. also, we have to understand that we need to put more resources into youth programs, into mental health, and what constitutes public safety for black and brown communities. this is complex. we have to have a comprehensive response. >> i do want to make a point that san diego judge who ruled assault weapons were okay to be out on the street fortunately was overruled to keep california streets a little more safe than what might otherwise have happened there. let me ask you about last week and the former minneapolis
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police officer derek chauvin who you know was sentenced to 22 1/2 years in prison for the murder of george floyd. do you have any faith that since some degree of punishment was doled out some of these police officers, the rogue ones, if you will, will be more mindful of their behavior going forward? >> well, let's hope so. i wanted to see the maximum sentence. derek chauvin committed murder. he did not get the maximum sentence. this did crack the door open for police accountability. justice would be that floyd never would have been killed in the first place. and so, yes, the door was open. no, i don't believe the sentence was sufficient, but i believe now the message has been sent this one case -- can you imagine, one time in history that this has happened. now we have to move forward and pass the george floyd policing
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and justice act, which would be the next step, and make sure we ban chokeholds, that we make sure qualified immunity is there so that police officers understand no one is above the law. we have to have a national database. all of the provisions of the george floyd justice in policing act is our next step toward real justice. >> okay. i know you will not stop working towards that. california congresswoman barbara lee, thank you for your time. good to see you. there was at least one report this past week suggesting ivanka trump and jared kushner trying to distance themselves from their time in the white house in an effort to rewrite history. is that the case? we'll get a read on that next. t.
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me? because, she said, i was much closer -- >> lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! >> yeah. okay. so that was not a clip from the 2016 campaign. in fact, that happened last night. donald trump making a return to the rally stage in ohio. the former president sticking with his greatest hits doubling down on election lies and airing personal grievances. ali vitaly is here to talk about it. was it like deja vu? what else did you hear but kind of a compilation of the trump greatest hits? >> reporter: yeah, that's exactly what it was, a series of deja vu. as much as this is a new inflection point, advisers say this is the beginning of a much more public posture for him over the course of the summer. he wants to take a bigger role. so we're going to see more
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rallies, more appearances at conservative events. at the same time, though, there wasn't much that was substantively new in this speech. at one point he even asked the crowd if he should go into some of the old grievances and relitigating the big lie of the 2020 election. the crowd said that's what they wanted to hear from him. and that's exactly what happened in my conversations with voters, too. i asked if it was time for more bigger vision for the party going forward. they said, no, they wanted to hear the greatest hits from the former president. that's what they got. there was a little bit of reaction to what's been in the news cycle lately. he did talk about vice president harris' trip to the border. he also spoke about general mark milley's tense exchange this week on the hill. listen to what he said about that. >> our generals and our admirals are now focused more on this
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nonsense than they are on our enemies. you see these generals lately on television? >> boo! >> they are woke. >> reporter: and, of course, he didn't name milley there but at the same time it was pretty clear what he was talking about. and, again, what milley said when he was on the hill sparring with a republican congressman was effectively just defending the idea of studying critical race theory which is the thought process and thinking around institutional racism in the united states. he likened it to the same way we study marxism and other things but he, himself, is not a communist. trump clearly picking up on that. at the same time, though, alex, this rally comes against the backdrop of legal troubles on the business front for the former president. we know from sources telling us that next week we're likely to see charges from the manhattan d.a., the first criminal charges he'll be bringing, and those could be against the trump organization as well as its ceo. >> so interesting.
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it all seems so passe. if that's the way he wants to go, then, okay. thank you very much. let's bring in peter baker, msnbc political analyst and chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." hey, peter. as you listen to that, trump is putting himself out there again, bringing back his infamous rallies. is there any sense the crowd wants to keep hearing this same tired stuff is dwindling? you heard her say, no, they wanted to hear the same stuff. but the volume, is that dwindling? is his influence waning at all? >> well, i think it's like going to see a 1980s rock band. you want to hear the classics, not the new stuff. the new stuff isn't clearly as memorable to you. you hook on to things that got you there in the first place. look, he is still the leader of the party. you saw senator portman from ohio say that this morning.
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even as republicans would like to find ways of moving on. his point this morning, the senator's point, was we can't basically be relitigating the past. we need to focus on the future, particularly the 2022 midterms. i think you're seeing republicans in washington trying to focus on opposition to biden. more traditional political stance than talking about president trump. he's not willing to leave the stage. unlike other former presidents like george w. bush or bill clinton or barack obama, president trump has made it clear he's not going to simply cede the spotlight to his successor or anyone else. >> i got tickets to an eagles concert and i want to hear "hotel california." i get that. there are at least 17 different books on trump currently in the works with trump giving about 22
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interviews to a list of reporters, that includes you, peter. what can you tell us about that experience and the president's mentality behind this? >> well, it's interesting. he is giving interviews across the board to a lot of authors, some he doesn't think will write books he will like but feels it will be worth trying to influence them anyway. he is eager to shape his place in history and in the current modern political conversation as well. so my wife, susan glasser, and i are working on a book on president trum. we went down to mar-a-lago to see him along with others. we interviewed with him in the lobby mar-a-lago. that's where he does these interviews where you're part of the show, in effect, as people come in and out of the place tore dinner and activities there. i think he relishes in the idea of somebody listening to him and telling his version of the story. these interviews are not going to change these books necessarily, but he hopes his
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voice will be participate part of them and give him an opportunity, even if the books are hostile or skeptical. >> you say you get the interview in the lobby, so people are coming and going. is it all just a show, like trump wants to show he's being interviewed by the great peter baker for a book? is that what it's about? >> he is a showman. that's part of it. he's there in mar-a-lago -- this is obviously before he moved up to bedminster. we were down there a couple months ago in mar-a-lago. tgs part of the show. he enjoys the attention and wants the attention of the authors and from the people coming in and out of his club. after the interview, again, it was a daily occurrence with different authors coming in, after the interviews he then steps out onto the terrace and, you know, talks to whatever group might be having an event. while we were there it was eric trump holding an event on
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pediatric cancer, a fund-raising event. trump came out and waved to the crowd, and then he has dinner on the patio where people again stand up and applaud him and come by his table and wish him well and all of that. there is a showman part of it. he's always, of course, been a showman. that's where he comes from, reality television and even his time as a real estate developer is a lot about showmanship. >> speaking of insider books, jared kushner is writing a book about his time in the trump administration. are jared and ivanka trump trying to distance themselves? are they hoping a book will be the record of their four years as memories actually fade? >> well, i think they're trying to frame their participation as they would like it to be seen. the parts where they feel like they had some good influence and did some important things. for jared in particular, he's
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most absorbed with the middle east efforts he made. he helped broker what they called the abraham accords that would bring normal diplomatic relations between israel and a number of muslim and arab states which was obviously a breakthrough. not the palestinian peace agreement that he had once promised but progressed towards some sort of a better middle east and he wants to focus his book on that rather than some of the more controversial aspects of the trump presidency. >> okay, peter baker. we can't wait for your book. a man whose grandmother is missing in the ruins of the condo collapse next.
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possible. in fact, one grandson found comfort in an envelope that he found on the ground. >> and it happened to be my grandmother's name, hilda, and it was a birthday card given to her a couple weeks ago. what are the chances that would happen? i just feel like it's really god's way of comforting us to say, either way, whatever happened with your grandmother, she's okay. >> that's a beautiful interpretation there. authorities confirm nine people have died. 156 remain unaccounted for and they remain hopeful they will find survivors. senator mitt romney appeared on the talk shows this morning. while you may not agree with some of what he says, he did deliver one of the most amusing lines about where exactly donald trump picked up the big lie about the election. the election dan: yeah i know, it's just...hello? claire, what? fire? ...or always road tripping on empty dan...
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ohio making it clear the big lie is not going away. >> the crime of the century, which i consider to be the election of 2020 -- the big lie is what took place on the evening and the morning november 3, november 4, november 5. our supreme court, i must say, i am ashamed of our supreme court. we'll never stop fighting for the true results of this election. >> joining me now founder of the national voter protection action fund, susan dell percio, and david jolly, former congressman from florida and an msnbc political contributor. guys, why do i feel like i have to apologize for the conversation we're going to have? but let's start. susan, the statements, in fact, they're all lies. but why does donald trump keep spreading them? it is six months later, moving into seven months later. why can't he just let it be?
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>> because he's playing to the crowd. you had a great interview earlier and basically said this is what the crowd wants. if that's what the crowd wants, that's what donald trump -- >> but hang on. it's a lot different. i also mid the analogy with peter that, yeah, it's like going to the concert and wanting to hear the greatest hits. it's a lot different where you have there paying money to hear music than dealing with somebody who was the leader of the free world and who may indeed yet want to be again the leader of the free world. come on! >> but i will -- trust me, i defend nothing, absolutely nothing of what donald trump says, but to your point about paying to see the eagles, people pay to be engaged with donald trump. he's still raising money for his pac, is still engaged with a certain group of the republican party and he's not going anywhere. i think david has mentioned this before. he wants to stay in the pot light especially with potential charges being drawn against him.
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>> david, let me get to this point because he did have a couple new targets let's take a listen to what he said about the military. >> our generals and our admirals are now focused more on this nonsense than on our enemies. you see these generals lately on television? they are woke. >> slamming general mark millie but let's take a listen to what he actually said. >> i want to understand white rage and i'm white and i want to understand it. so what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the constitution of the united states of america? what caused that? i want to find that out. what is wrong with understanding, having some situational understanding about
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the country for which we are here to defend? >> how is that controversial, don? >> it's not. it's not. but it speaks directly to the soul of the problem with -- i won't say the republican party but the trump sector that there is a rampant anti-intellectualism and we in the media have reduced our politics. i have read books, that doesn't make me an anti-semite. we should learn about the perspectives that have shaped this world. if 2003 don't learn about them we are bound to repeat them. if we don't do a deep psychological dive, not only into trump-ism but in the mind-set that he was able to foster that allowed american citizens to storm the capital and kill five people, if we don't probe that mentality, it's going to happen again and more people are going to die and that's what we have to stop running from and critical theory
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is a small piece of that. i think the general is spot on and shape on silly folks like matt gates who would dismiss those thoughts. >> there's the battleground civility poll, the gop actually stands on the cusp of winning back the house and senate if it can build back its base. someone like an older or suburban woman that have really left the party to some degree. a top pollster says to win republicans need trump to go away, david. from what you're hearing, is that what they want for trump to go away? republicans have had the opportunity to distance themselves repeatedly from trumpism after january 6th but they choose not to. >> that pollster is spot on, alex. republicans will win the house of representatives unless donald trump screws it up for them. you can take that to the bank. and by screwing it up, look what he did in the georgia runoffs. hats off to georgia democrats
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for mobilizing and getting their candidates elected. but republicans could not run that race when donald trump was saying that the election had been stolen and fighting all these grievance politics narratives. i doubt he will go away here. not just because he's donald trump, he needs his ego soothed, but there are two things happening in politics right now. donald trump has to get out there, or he's going to lose his front-runner status to people like governor ron desantis, a nikki haley. ron desantis is nipping at the heels of donald trump. trump knows it and has to get out there. that's what you're seeing in the rallies. the second thing is donald trump is terribly off message. yes, these are the greatest hits like at an eagles concert, but this is not what the republican party is going to run 2024 on. it's not what others are going to run on. donald trump needs to stay out there if he wants to be in the game but he has to get on
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message or will continue to lose this for republicans like he did over the last four years. >> i want to is have all of you listen and quickly respond as we listen to mitt romney and what he said on the election fraud false claims this morning. >> the question is what were your sources of information? where did he hear that the election had been fraudulently carried out? did he hear it from the justice department? no. the intelligence committee? no. where did he hear it from? the my pillow guy? rudy giuliani? what were their sources of information? the election was clear. it wasn't the outcome the president wanted, but let's move on. >> your reaction, susan, don and then david. >> mitt romney's absolutely right. and we should move on. unfortunately, donald trump is out there doing what he's doing, but even bill barr had said to him it's bs and we know it's not true.
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only donald trump wants to fight this. >> don? >> he's right. we should move on. but when it came time to act upon moving on by passing voting rights reform to fix what states have done in service of the big lie, mitt romney did not cast a vote in service of moving on and letting the senate examine voting rights reform. he can miss me with the statesmanship until he's ready to put it to action in the united states senate. >> okay, calling him out there. david, last word to you. >> he could have been talking about josh holley, ted cruz, the six senators and the 121 house members who tried to kneecap our democracy during that time period. good for mitt romney for calling out donald trump, but the humiliation and the scorn should lie with 127 on capitol hill that actually enabled this man. >> david, susan, don, always good to talk with you both. thank you guys. see you soon. are you dreaming of a getaway that eluded all of us during covid? we'll go to the high seas for a
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flight right now american passengers are on a cruise ship for the first time in 15 months. the celebrity edge is the first to set sail. he joins us from aboard to give us an inside look at the new normal. are you having a great time and how about those passengers, do they feel safe? >> reporter: i'm relaxed. absolutely. i'm relaxed. we're south of the bahamas. just north of havana, cuba. you might call this a test of how it's going to work but these are paying passengers. it's all about the safety and the protocols for covid. how do you feel? do you feel safe? >> absolutely. it's fantastic. >> great. >> reporter: that's the thumbs up.
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the pool is full. we have an opportunity to talk to the man who has been putting this all together for the royal caribbean cruise line. he's going to join us here now. talk to us a bit about, first of all, you're at sea, first one leaving from the united states. how is it going so far? >> it's going wonderfully. you're seeing, everybody is having such an amazing time. it's almost as though the last 15 months just disappeared. >> it's been a brutal 15 months. shut down. the cdc very reluctant to get started. now you're at this process. 99% of the people on board. that's the passengers as well as the crew are vaccinated. how do you move forward and what happens if somebody does test positive for coronavirus on a future cruise or on this one? >> as you say, it's been a brutal 15 months. we're still not over it. there's still covid around and we need consciousness as we move forward. we have a pathway and we're showing it. the protocols on this ship and the way this was organized, mean
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that you are safer on board this ship than you would be in your home community. the vaccines and the contact tracing and the treatments all of that and the testing, all of that allows us to meet that goal. everybody is having great time doing it. yes, there will be cases in society. we know that every day. we know there will be cases on board a ship at some point. what we have shown is we know how to deal with it and to make sure a few isolated cases don't become an outbreak. >> let's talk about the vaccine passport. you're not required to have a vaccine be on board. you're encourage it. i'm turning this way and looking up at the camera for a reason. beyond our television camera, there are cameras for security purposes. if i were to test positive for coronavirus, how would you do then the contact tracing to find out who i came into contact with on the vessel? >> that is one of the beautiful things is unlike on shore where somebody will say what do you
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remember who you were close to, we're able to use ai and also other technology to make sure we know exactly who you -- >> the facial recognition. >> facial recognition, pattern recognition. we have these tracelets which will allow us to check who you were close to. >> and then test them. >> isolate everybody and test them and that's something you can't do on shore. yes, it's possible somebody will come on board with covid-19. if that happens, we're quickly able to identify them. quickly able to identify everybody and isolate it and no fuss, no muss for everybody else. >> thank you very much. we'll do the elbow bump. >> on this ship, we don't have to. we can shake hands. >> all vaccinated. >> reporter: i'll step out of the way to see folks here. you may wonder, okay, the 99% are actually vaccinated. the crew is wearing masks, if you see one of the crew members
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come by. >> right there. >> reporter: the ship itself is running at 40% capacity. that's sort of the slow ramp up. royal caribbean has 62 ships and are hoping if this goes well, as they plan it to, they will by the end of the year have the ships all up and running and maybe with a full load of passengers. alex. >> okay. i was looking far to this segment all day. you delivered, my friend. i look forward to seeing you. thank you. pride celebrations in this country are returning to the streets of new york. we'll take you there, next. the streets of new york. we'll take you there, next the scent made quite an impression. ♪ i swear ♪ it was like that towel and jaycee were the only two left on earth. but... they weren't. you can always spot a first timer. gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. try the new light scent from gain. hello spring daydream.
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celebrations are back? >> reporter: good to be with you. the message i keep hearing is that pride is back. i mean last year they only had two months to figure out how to move the event from in person to virtual. this year, even though there's a huge crowd behind me, it's still scaled back. it's about a sixth of what it was in 2019. about 100,000 spectators expected to watch the parade here along 5th avenue. the theme for this year is supporting lgbtq plus businesses. many of them suffered in the era of covid. this is the sixth anniversary of the supreme court ruling that same-sex marriage was protected by the constitution. there's progress but still more progress needs to be made. i talk to one of the grand
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marshals about the importance of celebrating pride and being here in person. let's listen to what she said. >> to have community members and the world see a positive image of what a black transwoman is and to see the work we have done is unprecedented. it's never been done. we have pride in ourselves every day of the year. having it again this year and having this cut down version of pride is still pride. >> reporter: a cut down version. every 30 minutes they have a sequence of the parade going along this route. that's why i'm able to hang out in the middle of fifth avenue now. somebody else new, pride organizers are banning uniformed lgbtq officers from ban flg the march. a lot of officers saying why do i have to hide part of myself. >> i think you'll have to get a live studio audience for your shows because you got a big old cheer. you'll get used to that out
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