tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC June 27, 2021 1:00pm-2:00pm PDT
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are now also learning much more about warning signs documented in this building that date back years before the shocking collapse. plus we're learning a lot more when it comes to infrastructure. where does the biden administration go from here, as the white house and some lawmakers run damage control. senator bill cassidy had this to say to his republican colleagues. >> if you go home and talk to constituents who are stuck? traffic for an hour and a half getting to work and an hour and a half getting home, three hours a day that they don't spend with their family, they want these -- they want a bridge come to go a town near them. >> however, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez says this is the democrats' one big chance to get their as to -- >> republicans are welcome to
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join, but it doesn't mean that the president should be limited by republicans and we have the white house. plus the trump organization facing charges, "the washington post" david faronhold will join us to break it down. i do want to start in florida alternate this hour. we do have answers for some of the missing people. searchers now working around the clock. they found five more bodies and human remains. we're also finding out more from the engineering firm hired to assess the building back in 2018. they have released a statement that says, in part, our report detailed significant cracks and breaks in the concrete which
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required repairing to ensure the saved much the residents and the public. the report did not say the structure was at risk of collapse, but noted that repairs were needed to maintain the structural integrity of these, and also -- failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extents of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially. he also set 18 months lapsed between when this inspection was done in 2018 and whether the condo association hired their company to detail repairs to be done. the developer was charged by canadians authorities for evading taxes. they were alleged to which skimmed tens of thousands in
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coin-operatedsh before banking the money for themselves. i'm going to speak from "the washington post" and the reporting that an engineer warned of structure damage years ago. what is exactly what they found? you don't want to my that, it's coming in 20 minutes. republicans say they were blindsided by biden, saying the bill would need to be tide to a reconciliation package, but seemed to be back on board that biden has clarified he will support the bill on its own. >> it was a surprise, to say the least, the two have gotten linked. and now it's clear we can move forward. >> mitch mcconnell wants infrastructure as much as anyone
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else. he wants the jobs this will create. i think leader mcconnell will be for it if it continues to come together. >> democrats are warning that more hurdles are inevitable. watch this. >> every week there's probably going to be another problem that arises. we'll work through those problems, and i think we'll get good supports from both sides of the aisle. >> i want to bring in rick. great to see you, great background, looking beautiful today with the sunny weather. >> thank you. >> hearing some confidence, right, getting this infrastructure deal with the walk-back, a pretty significant walk back. how important do you think it
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was? >> two things. one, it was extraordinarily important that the president clarified his statements, because the -- left the deal understanding that they had a deal. that deal was on the one infrastructure bill, the smaller one, that they all wanted. when he linked those two together, that was really a fumble. that was a fumble on the 50 yard line. he did recover his own fumble, but when you have slim majorities in the house and the senate, if just doesn't work that way that you get to try for transformational change. every time there's a large transformational change, it's because the country was behind it, but the country is not behind it. they all want infrastructure, but they don't want the kind of change that they have not been convinced is needed. therefore, biden really -- by the way, we need this
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infrastructure bill. i'll tell you why. the story that leads every more, which is the champlain condominium, that's a warning to every single condominium association, but to every municipal, every county, every state, that there are roads, bridges that should matter to people's live, and when they're not maintained and unfixed, people's lives are in danger. >> i mean, i was out -- i was out in mem tills covering the bridge shutdown which i mem there was a significant crack in this bridge. god forbid this bridge collapse
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the campaign manager for ray mcgwire is here with us. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> talk to me "the washington post" essentially writing this -- we heard that from alexanderia ocasio-cortez earlier today on one of the morning shows. what do you make of this fine line? and then the other stuff whether it comes to reconciliation? >> i thinking this a bit of a tussle between the past and the future. i agree with everything said earlier, the importance of infrastructure and what that
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means. i absolutely understand, but it is true that historically republicans and democrats have been able to agree on the importance of infrastructure bills, but this is also a question about the future. in the midst of a covid written, where we have seen so many change take place, we have to rethink the future of work. we have to rethink what it means for the future. what constitutes a small business. not necessarily just a bakery, but a childcare worker, for example. the correspondent is, can we get this included in the largest dialogue about the infrastructure, the future of work as a time the biden administration needs this big win, and they want to push something through in time.
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so it is a tension between what we normally consider infrastructure, where the country needs to go. >> basil, can you -- we heard a republican on the airs earlier talk about how he believes democrats need to get it to get it together. of course a republican will saying that about the democratic party, but nonetheless, what is the timing that the americans can accept when it comes to this deal. you bring up, for instance, child care. >> well, in temples of the timing, sooner is better than later, especially for the pared down bill. you want something passed quickly so you have the opportunity to sell it, market
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it. we obvious use the term shovels in the ground. to be able to at least try to get something visible for voters, so up that done early. the problem is aoc, elizabeth warren and other progressives have said, we're current if you focus on this bill, it's unlikely we'll get anything else done. but i understand the administration's concerns as well. >> do you also agree, rick, in they focus on the bipartisan bill, there's a possibility other parts of the larger bill that will be passed through req sill will fall by the wayside,
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despite what the president said? >> yes. in a practical sense, that's probably what will happen. presidents can do lots of things at the same time, but large legislation doesn't obvious happen in tandem. >> basil makes great points about rethinking the future of work. i agree with his point. my point is, i'm not sure government is the best starting place to be the rethinking about how work is changing, it has changed on its own. we see that in minimum wage and we can codify things into law, but first prove to me that you can do the fundamental basics of governing, which is fix the roads, fix the bridges, fix the rail. why include high-speed internet. fix it, make it work. when people trust that those things work, then we can look at the others, but this huge
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transformational change when connect even fix bridges and roads, i don't believe it will happen. do the first, then we'll try the second. >> this is exactly what you're saying, and that's the real fear of progressives like aoc, right? if in fact the midterms come and go, there's no possibly to get it through by reconciliation. it's all about timing here. >> rick is absolutely right. i think what has been traditional the case, when you try to legislate the big issues and policy changes, the country doesn't have the stomach for that. that's the coin of the realm. holefully you build it to a
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collection of a major policy change, but it's hard to get that stuff passed when you're trying to legislate. again, you know, for particularly younger generations for more progressi democrats, they don't want to hear it. they want change now. it is a tension that exists that, you know hopefully biden and his wisdom of the administration can balance that. >> i quickly want to talk about th january 6th select committee. the senate, they have already said this is understanding necessary. what do you see this as the intention? >> i hope the intention is to get to the truth of what happened. it's just me, i guess, when one party seems to be materially
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involved in an insurrection, that party ought to be disbanded. the democrats are politicizing it to some extent, but nevertheless, the truth has to be found out. the way way a formal inquiry where we can settle the matter. the world is watching this. we have always upheld ourselves as a democracy, where it's a self-governing people, and all of the world's autocracies are pointing at us saying, see? it's all corrupt. that's a tragedy. he thinking democrats to a external extent has politicized this. do you agree with that? >> you're talking about
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congress, so everybody is political, but it is about accountability. it is about accountability. we heard a lot of this when we're going through how many impeachments? two? >> seven, just kidding. >> yes, it's about accountability. the question is, is a trump republican going to actually speak truth on these issues? that is not going to happen. >> no. >> so, it's going to seem onesided, but unfortunately that is the reality of our moment. >> i don't want to play her sound, but you snowe who i'm talking about. marjorie taylor greene, now saying, rick, she wants to be a part of the select committee?
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>> been banned from all committees, so why would she -- i don't know what she does all day. she just stalks people all day, parent, is what she does all day. which is illegal, by the way. >> i appreciate you both, guys. that was a fantastic conversation. thank you so much. coming up. more reporting from "the washington post" that -- and we have more after the break about what was found and how nothing was done to fix the problems. we'll be right back. was done to fix the problems we'll be right back. to shine your brightest. as you charge ahead. illuminating the way forward. a light maker. recognizing that the impact you make, comes from the energy you create. introducing the all-electric lyriq.
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years ago, engineer frank mirabito said failure to replace -- could called it to expand exponentially. joining me with more on this is kim bellware, thank you for joining us. i think a lot of the concerns for those standing by, over 150 people still missing, nine people now confirmed dead. now there are these reports from "the washington post," from your paper, talking about this inspection in 2018. the wording to me is astounding that nothing was done. >> thanks for having me. this report originally economiesed, this was part of an
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ever to assure this could pass a 40-year inspection that the town required. buildings every 40 years, they need to be recertified for saved, so they had commissioned an engineer to do this inspection report to reveal what needs to be done so they can pass. that's where they learned there were these -- i don't want to say catastrophic, because that's a specific term, but there were major failures in the actual construction of the building, specifically how it came to waterproofs were underneath the pool deck and entrance ramps, so this was build flat instead of on a slope, so water could just sit on tap until it evaporates,
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instead of drank out. the more it does that, the more it can get into the steel which accelerates the deterioration of the conee. concrete. when this older building had been constructed, and then also some even more recent attempts to fill flaking in the concrete with epoxy, and just some contractor errors, so they're accumulaing a list of things that needed to be fixed. terms were like "in the near future" so there weren't exact dates, but it was flagged to the association as safety issues they needed to address. >> it's fascinating to me that they would write that things could get exponentially worse if something was not done with some of these issues.
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do you have any idea why these repairs were not started sooner? >> it's not entirely clear just yet. mea colleagues did a report yesterday, that it took the condo association at the champlain tower south about 18 months to approve a repair plan for this. so they had this information, this report from the engineer, and it took another 18 months for the association to make a decision. it's worth noting that some residents had already filed a law, so there were a lot of questions remaining. there were also e-mails released that indicated the estimated cost was going to be expensive, upwards of $9 million. i can't say for certain in the context of buildings like this, this is kind of an upper
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middle-class community, the average price is maybe half a million. is $ million expensive? we know the association had taken out a line of credit to pursue these repairs. the roof was being repaired when this collapse happened. in addition to this report, there are a lot of other factors they are looking into whether that could have been a contributing factor. >> tell me more about the residents that filed lawsuits against the association. do you know when it happened and why? >> unfortunately i have not been following it closely. i do know there are some residents who have hired a lawyer. we haven't heard a responsible from the condo association's lawyer as a result of this complaint, but that's something i haven't been -- i'm afraid i can't give you a good answer on that one.
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>> i appreciate that. what more are we learn about the developers? the tower north, that's a ser building, and there's towers east, which is a bit newer. it was built in 1994, and residents say they're not as worried, but the building is newer, and afternoon new building standards went in after hurricane andrew. so it has similar materials, similar layouts. the similarities and the fact they're all within roughly 1,000 feet of each other has been causing a lot of questions for residents as to whether those are safe. we no from updates for people
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who want to evacuate are eligible for federal assistance. and we know from 2018 report, this engineering report that was made for the tower itself, they indicated the design -- there was in failure in the design that had to do with the waterproofs structure and that construction. >> kim bellware from "the washington post," thanks so much. still ahead, everybody, criminal charges against the trump organization are expected to drop. who will they target? will any of those involved flip on the former president? we'll have more, coming up next. ? we'll have more, coming up next. . and try new drug free pepto herbal blends. made from 100% natural ginger and peppermint. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's
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close in on the trump organization following an announcement the company could face criminal charges, we are learning more about who else could be under scrutiny? nbc has confirmed that they are looking into matthew calamari. he had been employed by the president benefits county taxes him. also he son an employee at the organization, currently live in trump-owned apartments and recently retained an attorney to represent them david, thank for joining on this. i appreciate it. call to me about this. this is not something we had heard about a lot. not as much as alan weisselberg,
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the cfo. they have denied any wrongdoing, but nonetheless they have lawyered up. is it likely we'll be hearing more names like his? >> it's certainly possible. they're indicative, like michael cohen was, in the way they ran this company. it's a small company at the top. and the people who have been there have been there forever. calamari since 1982. they owe their years career to trump. calamari started as a body guard, now the c.o.o. of the organization. it makes se sense to look at hi. the difference i between between weisselberg and calamari, i think calamari does not know as
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much about the inner workings, so might be less valuable to prosecutors, but certainly they seem to be looking at everybody in the top echelon. >> you told nicolle wallace that weisselberg was going to stay loyal, before we heard the breaking news that the charges would drop this coming week, at the soonest. do you city have the same view? >> well, look, this week is when host likely it all guess real. right now it's been relatively easy for weisselberg to stay loyal, because what does it cost him? he hasn't been charged with anything. it's no guarantee that he will be charged. if charges are filed and/or against the trump organization, now alan weisselberg starts to see for real the focus of the risk he is taking on.
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he may look at that and say it's a few penny and are alleged usual -- or weisselberg may say i don't want to go to jail for donald trump at this stage in my life. it's hard for us to know how serious this case is against either. >> any idea? >> if i had to guess, i would say major, only because the manhattan district attorney has put behind this a lot of resources. if they charge weisselberg, it would be a real escalation. you know, this is a way to show the world and trump org, look, we are serious. and if it's something piddling,
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i don't think they would do it. >> would you expect charge to come this soon? >> i did -- not against trump. i did against somebody like weisselberg. if this process concludes before the end much the year, which i think cy vance, who is retiring, would like to have happen. until weisel birk feels a real squeeze, vance doesn't know what kind of witness he has or what kind of case he has. >> and they're not going to know until the charges drop. david, thank you. coming up, everybody, the white house is running damage control. biden himself has even been working the phones.
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welcome back, everybody. the infrastructure deal could be back on track today. some major back-and-forth in washington this weekend put the bill in jeopardy. president biden himself was making calls in an effort to salvage the agreement, now that he clarified he will sign it without a bigger package. at least some republicans say they buy it. >> i do trust the president. he made clear in the much larger statement, carefully crafted thought out through piece by piece, that if the infrastructure bill reaches his desk and it comes alone, he will sign it. >> anita, take us behind the scenes. we are in the middle of the press conference, he essentially
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attaching the reconciliation bills republicans behind limb, they were smiling together, joking together, and suddenly the president says this thing, and it seemed like everybody freaked out and maybe this was going to fall apart. what was the president doing? who was he calling and what do we know about what he said? >> it really does seem it was an off-the-cuff remark he made. this was separate, remember, from when he was apt with republicans and democrats. i was, and he kind of just said it, but has self-disciplined. some democrats were upset, and so the white house went into draj control for a couple days
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until this lengthy statement came out, backtracking. what we saw was top aides like steve richetti, calling people up, talk to go people on capitol hill, as well as other aides, the president himself calling, so it's really these republican senators they were worried about. five republican senators who were part of the deal, but also some centrist democrats. remember, the president doesn't have or didn't have the votes he needed prior to this. so he wanted to make sure he had gotten these folks back in line. so it seems like it did. >> we're just not shirr about that. we sauce mitch mcconnell making some harsh statements. obviously they need 60 votes.
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i do think some republicans already skeptical now. the thing was thinking, he kind of she had out loud, but i do think that the white house went a long way to try to deal with this. that statement was incredibly lengthy and long. we saw his aides walking back over, softening it -- but nothing was really working. two days in, they felt like they had to put out that statement. good to see you. coming up, jonathan capehart he will speak with members of the administration as to explore what is being done to advance the rights of the community.
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welcome back, everybody. watching the images out of florida are just horrific. imagine being one of the survivors who narrowly escaped with your life or a family waiting for a miraculous discovery. the hope of survival become a little less. many of us will not understand that uncertainty, but many of us can, those who lost loved one in 9/11. not as catastrophic, but it is a catastrophe. these people went to bed with plans to wake up in the morning, just like the people on 9/11 with plans later. they had plans to immediate the next day to go to the beach or
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welcome back. today millions of americans across the country are celebrating the last weekend of pride monday. the party will be got started in new york city with the annual pride parade. although still scaled down, rainbow floats and celebrations made their way through the streets today. also this week, the first active nfl player came out as a gay man
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creating a major milestone in major league sports. in honor of pride month, jonathan capehart sat down with members of government to discuss being part of the lgbt community. here is a portion of his interview with secretary of transportation pete buttegeig. >> what would you tell your 13-year-old self, if you could turn back time? what would you tell yourself. >> i guess, hang in there. i mean, at 13, i was beginning to understand that i was different. no. not understand. i was beginning to perceive that i was different, and not understand. and the understanding that i had to gather was the task of years
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and years. and i guess it would have been nice to hear, there is nothing wrong with you, just hang in there. but, you know, things worked out great for me. i know not every teen who's realizes that they are different can say that. so what i really want is -- 13-year-old pete came out all right. i want to make sure 13-year-old whoever you are out there knows to hang in there, that -- not to say it will be easy, but there is a lot of people rooting for you, including the president, and people like me. >> makes me emotional, jonathan. great to see you. thanks for joining us. >> great to see you, too, was minute. >> two takeaways from that -- when you said if you could turn back time, i sang to myself gym
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if i could turn back time ♪♪ . now it's in my head. but i felt like secretary buttegeig was really speaking to 13-year-old kids around this country, really, that struggle with this identity that they are learning about themselves, of who they are. and the importance of representation. >> uh-huh. yasmine, i actually pulled that question just out of thing air and just decided to ask him, you know, hey, what would you tell your 13-year-old self? you can even see, even in that clip, how we motional he got in answering that question. you can see his eyes filling up with tears. when you watch special tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern, i asked him a follow-up question about, you know, his being so emotional. and you can see it right there. he is somebody who if you have seen him interviewed over all this time from being mayor of south bend or his run for the
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presidency that his being gay and his journey to coming out is one that is still very much on the surface. you saw on that clip just how grateful he is. he still remembers that journey. and he knows that there are millions of people across this country who are making this same journey. just being able to tell them, you are going to be okay, it's going to take time, and the president has your back -- that was the key thing that just sent chills up my spine when he said night yeah. and that journey, it applies to everybody, gay, straight, wherever you are from, whatever you are about, right? hang in there. there is nothing wrong if you, if you feel like something is different about who you are. that can apply to every single person watching that interview, and that story that secretary buttegeig shares with you. what else can we expect tonight for the special, jonathan. >> yasmine, we are going to have six very senior members of the biden administration who are out
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lgbt people. you saw transportation secretary pete buttegeig. we will also have assistant secretary of health, dr. rachel levine, the first out transgender person confirmed by the united states' senate to her position. principle deputy white house press secretary jean pierre. pealy toby ar. ned price, and also the senior adviser to the white house for lgbt engagement, reggie greer all talking about their journeys to coming out. and then here's this one special thing that's going to come up within the special. there are 50 -- 50 out lgbt members of the administration who show up on a zoom wall at the end. and really when you see it, just the fact that in 1953 president eisenhower signed an executive order purging gay men and lesbians from the federal government.
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and here you have tonight you are going to see with your own ice 56 out lgbt members on a president's administration on national television. it is true -- i don't know about you, but i think it is going to be truly special and historic. >> it is special, historic. the irony, the dichotomy of this happening and you have across the country still people trying to restrict the rights of the lgbt community and the fight that is still ahead for the lgbt community. >> uh-huh. >> in this country. >> yes. elected officials are trying to pull us back, to take away our rights, to block us from sharing in the american dream. but the thing to take solace in is that the latest polls show that the majority of americans are for lgbt equality. >> jonathan, my friend, thank you, we cannot wait to watch your special right of the white house tonight at 10:00 p.m.
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i hope everybody tunes in. that wrapsz it up for me. i will be here saturday and sunday fourng weekend. i will be in the share. and now i turn it over to reverend al sharpton, and "politics nation." good evening. and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, in the rear view. right now, i'm struggling with a troubling thought that most of the actionable legislation in congress dealing with inequity appears historic on its face but is symbolic in its application. that is not to minimize the infrastructure breakthrough last week and the purported amenities purported to come to communities of color. it is also not to
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