i hope everybody tunes in. that wrapsz it up for me. i will be here saturday and sunday fourng weekend. i will be in the share. and now i turn it over to reverend al sharpton, and "politics nation." good evening. and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, in the rear view. right now, i'm struggling with a troubling thought that most of the actionable legislation in congress dealing with inequity appears historic on its face but is symbolic in its application. that is not to minimize the infrastructure breakthrough last week and the purported amenities purported to come to communities of color. it is also not to denigrate the

federalization of juneteenth before that. and now, national celebration of black freermd. but there lies at least part of my point. infrastructure. it will pass because white americans, including republicans, agree on the need. and they are proportion addly affected by bad roads, and substandard airports. and it's also easy to make peace with another paid holiday. but as we saw last week with the for the people act and for months now the police reform legislation in george floyd's honor, senate republicans remain adverse to helping black americans overcome threats that disproportionately affect them, like bad cops, and suppressed votes. of course, on voting rights, it makes sense from the gop's standpoint, why empower that

will and already have defeated you? but on curbing police -- lethality, there is really no excuse not to proceed. unless, of course, all lives truly don't matter. and so we start with congresswoman karen bass, democrat, of california, who is coauthor of the george floyd justice and policing act. congresswoman bass, i'm very happy to finally get you back with us. you and your counterpart in the senate, senator booker has kind of kept your head down trying to get this bill done with the republican counterpart tim scott. and we talked in the civil rights leadership with a lot of the senators, both republican and democrat. and on occasion, you guys. not to try to upset the process. but you know, it's time for us

to really do a check. where is this? we keep hearing that it's close, they are coming close. but then we hear this or that. and i think it's timely to interview the legislation because on thursday you and senator cory booker and tim scott announced the framework that the justice and policing act has achieved after months of strong negotiation in the senate. and then the next day, as we watched derek chauvin receive a 22-year prison sentence for the murder of george floyd, as the architect of the floyd act, i wonder what went through your mind as you watched that sentencing. and where do negotiations now stand, as much as you can share with us, at the reported breakthrough moment? >> well, thank you so much for having me on, rev. and i have to tell you that the emotion i felt when i heard the sentencing was the same as the verdict. you know, we have seen so many

of these cases go to trial. and then there is a -- either a not guilty verdict or the sentence is so light. so i was relieved that the sentence was long. for the family, you know, george floyd will never be back again. and for his daughter. and that was so moving, to hear her. so to me, it just adds extra pressure on us to get this job done. and it's especially critical that we get it done before the august recess. i am encouraged. we have been working hard. there have been months, long hours, of discussions and negotiations. and the framework, i believe, is a good way to go into the two-week senate recess. the house is in next week, but senate is off for two weeks. but you know that doesn't mean that we are not working. so negotiation also continue. and i am hopeful that when they come back and we are back, that we will be able to say that there is a bill. >> i have said to senator

booker, and to you, and i said it at the press conference with george floyd's family at the sentencing on friday that there is a difference between two slices of bread and a sandwich. a sandwich has meat or something in the middle. and we don't want two slices of bread. we want some meat. we may not get all of the gravy we want. but we at least want some meat in the bill. and we are confident that manchin and others have understood that from us. and we are confident with you and cory booker in the room and senator scott that whatever comes out, there will be some meat in this this will not be two slices of bread to make us look like we are eating something. >> absolutely. and the meat that you are talking about is accountability, it's transparency, it's accreditation. i mean, there are several key factors that are the meat. and it will be a complete bedreal of all of those people that were out in 50 states

around the country, countries around the world, if we do not have a substantive piece of legislation. but i will tell you, rev, that i am worried, because there is an excuse that is just awaits us. and that is the upparticular in crime. while crime is going up, we don't need to talk about police reform. we need to let the police do whatever they need to do and throw as much money into it as possible. that increases the urgency. you know we have experienced spikes before. and you and i know there are ways to deal with them. i am encouraged by the biden administration. when i heard the president come out and hear his response to the upparticular was one to reduce guns and also provide funding to the communities to do the prevention work. you know our communities spend -- we have wonderful organizations out there fighting but they are never given sustained resources. hopefully this time will be different. >> we must say openly, and i

agree with you, i'm concerned even over the fourth of july holiday, any violence is doing violence to our passing this act. any kind of uptick by any people in our kbhunt that have marched with us, rallied with us, that would excuse or even participate in any vie lens, you are doing what the adversaries of trying to hold police accountability want to us do. >> right. >> let me ask you this. what does regrouping look like for democrats after the defeat of hr-1, the for the people act, this past week? the president says it's far from over. the justice department is now suing the state of georgia over its new restrictions. but in the senate, the opposition was unified against hr-1. and their leader said the same can be exempt -- expected for the john lewis act. how do you bount back congresswoman? >> a couple of things, thank goodness for an administration

with an actual deputy of justice that works on behalf of the american people. to see a.g. garland file that suit was just a lint of a relief. but we have to keep pushing. here we have not just voter suppression, but literally taking the vote away. i saw the purging of over 100,000 voters in georgia. you know, rev f this was another country we would be talking about sanctions, we would be talking about cutting foreign aid. and we have a term for this -- because you know i also focus on foreign policy. it's called the closing of the democratic space. that's exactly what's being attempted here in our own country. and we just absolutely cannot stand for that. >> your speaker, nancy pelosi, announced the formation of a select committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. senate republicans of course united against a bipartisan commission last month. details are few at this point. as a member of the house judiciary committee, what are

the ramifications for america? and why do you suspect that an investigation into a domestic terror attack on the capitol is so controversial for a party that is supposedly value law and order? >> well, i think, first of all, the party doesn't value law and order. it depends on the situation. could you imagine if there had been pushback after 9/11, that we didn't want to study what the causes of 9/11 were? i think it is incredible. literally, this was a group of traders in my mind, that organized and participated in an insurrection. and we have a party that says we don't want to know about it. i think that it is critical because we need to get to the roots of how widespread are these organizations and individuals in our country. and is there further violence that they might commit? the government certainly says

it. the justice department certainly says that that's the case. so we have to get to the bottom of it. this extremist organizations. and now you have the former president on the road with his revenge rallies. and so the combination between the two? this is very dangerous. and it means that one party is not interested in protecting the american people. >> now, congresswoman, briefly on that note, i want to quickly get to the news that the district attorney of manhattan is expected to file criminal tax evasion charges against the trump administration. the report says as early as this week. do you have any thoughts about that? >> well, i mean, i think that this is just the beginning. just think. we know of all of the corruption -- actually, we don't know the details of all the corruption that took place in this administration. but i know that attorney general james has been on the case. i know they have been on the case in manhattan. so i am not surprised by this. and also, i won't be surprised to see many more charges filed

in the future. >> all right. thank you for being with us, congresswoman karen bass. let's bring my panel of political strategists and podcast host angela wry, and former republican strategist rena shaw. rena, you are part of a group of 150 republicans who label themselves as anti-trumpers, launching a new organization called the renew america movement. the goal is to find and support candidates in 2022 midterms to pivot where the gop is headed in a post trump era. what made you want to be part of this movement? >> the renew america movement isn't just anti-trumpers. it is a broad coalition of officer right left people. it is people like myself who opposed trump from the very beginning, but it is also people

that recently voted for him. that's important because what unites us is not support for one person but it is the share recognition that the republican party abandoned its principles. and it has done it because it wants to kater to a really extremist, conspiratorial group out there who thrive on the fact that worry divided americans. >> speaker pelosi is convening an investigation of the january 6th attack. now trump aides are prepping an order to invoke the insurrection act. it allows a sitting president to deploy active military troops to handle domestic events.

president trump denied that report. interesting to me, it was under debate during unarmed protests, but when the capitol hill insurrection happened we saw no attempts from the white house to quell the violence. is the word hypocrisy truth here? >> more than hypocrisy. we have someone who repeatedly lied about reports in the "new york times." also someone who has a treacherous relationship with the troops. we have someone who is the poster child for all things terror surrounding people of color, whether it is xenophobic comments that he made at the height of the coronavirus pandemics or it's when he was coming down the escalator announcing that he was going to run for president, and called mexicans drug dealers and rapists. of course he's not afraid of the very people he encouraged to go

and act violently, to go and even come and attack his own sitting vice president at the time. there was a noose hanging on a platform on capitol hill. so of course this is someone who urged this kind of behavior when he had the opportunity to tamper some of this down, he told these folks to stand back and stand by. right? even before january 6th. it should be of no surprise to any of us. what we also know is that he regularly tied black lives matter protesters and protests to antifa. he called them terrorists. >> yeah. >> he called these folks names. this is something that we are very familiar with. and we have to be very clear that donald trump's presidency may have ended, but white supremacy has not. it is going to be incumbent upon all of us to ensure that a january 6 commission actually happens and that we get to the bottom of what exactly occurred thanks to donald trump. >> and what was instigated to help make it occur or to set the

crime up for it to occur. rena, the investigation looking into trump's organization dealings is heating up, sources telling nbc news that the manhattan's d.a.'s office will hit the organization with criminal charges regarding tax-related matters as early as next week. although it's not trump personally who will be hit with the charges, how might this bode for him, his remaining businesses, and even his re-election efforts and efforts in the midterm elections. >> it is no doubt going to complicate matters entirely. i mean this is a first step where we see sort of the curtain being pulled back on what the trump organization really is. we know from an inside source now, somebody who is in charge purse there that this could be catastrophic for the president if it gets to the place where we get the see real numbers, where his entanglements were where money flowed in and out of.

that's the complication. we wering waiting for it a few years. we didn't get to see it. is this going to change anything with trump's base or anyone of those who protect him? no, because there is no truth telling in the republican party. that's my problem with the party. there is no effort to any kind of reform. they had so many years, five years of blatant in your face actions that showed us who this man really was, and they still refuse to accept it. so what i want to say to my fellow americans who still think trump is somebody who is innocent, who is not really guilty of any sort of crime, pay attention. now is the time to see that he's out of office. there are real serious people in law enforcement who want to make sure this isn't a political witch-hunt today that we are upholding democracy and doing our country proud by standing up

for the very principles. and the principles are this, rev, that one party wants to attack the rule of law. >> that's right. >> they want to attack the norms that our democracy is founded on. that's the real problem here, you can't get them to change overnight. you need a slow effort to hold people accountable. that's all this is. what we are seeing right now are people trying to walk away from trump. we will continue to see more of that. what we need to do is put on pressure and expose these people for whoer in and hole them to account. and that is where i am steadfast. >> we must keep that pressure on? indeed. >> angela, president joe biden yesterday confirmed his support for the prospect infrastructure plan and clarified that he did not threaten to veto the bill if it comes without a reconciliation package. this is a reversal from what he said last week about wanting the two bills in tandem. despite coming to an agreement thursday there is still an uncomfortable amount of

uncertainty surrounding the legislation. what problems might lie ahead between the two parties that would prevent its passing through the senate in your judgment? >> well, there are several, rev. i think one bite at the apple is something that democrats have to get very familiar with really quickly. you talked earlier to congress member bass about the senate bill hr-1 or senate bill which is the for the people act. they have been trying to pass this since last congress. on top of that is the voting rights act now named over john lewis. they are not going to get two bites at the apple there. and certainly not going to get two bites at at the apple with the infrastructure package. i want to understand that democrats want good will with the republican party but there is a coalition that wants to look backwards and focus on holding donald trump accountable but we still have aging notice of, economic disparities that

exist, we have people who are staying at home with loved ones and can't afford to do that. we have people's voting rights being threatened at the local, state, and federal level. yet there is inaction. it is not just the republican party that's at fault. it is also moderate democrats that can't seem to figure out where their values lie. and very rarely does it lie on the side with people who have been most marginalized and disenfranchised. yes, it begins with notice of but doesn't end with voting rights. yes it starts with police violence but doesn't end with gun control and gun safety. we have to get to a point where people finds their upper moral camp as and this is worth doing for the american people regardless of the political aisle you stand on. to joe biden's opponent i would love to see a bill in tandem but that means it has to be brought together in one single package because, again, it's one bite at the apple. >> one bite at the apple said

angela write, thank you both for being with us. coming up, "politics nation" brings about a interview on a new documentary that dives into the city's struggle with its confederate history. the film's director joins me in a bit. plus, our voting rights are under attack. we have no choice but to rise up. so i'm going to tell you how. but first, my colleague richard liu with today's other news stories. >> some of the stories we are watching this now. nine people are now confirmed dead in the condo collapse in surfside florida. over 150 people remain unaccounted for. rescue teams are searching around the clock. a fire deep within the rubble hindered recovery early. firefighters quelled those claims. they are using sonar, cameras, and search dogs. portland oregon set an all time record high saturday soaring to 108.

a heat wave sovereigns the pesk northwest. seattle projected over 110 for monday. senator mike riskel passed away at the age of 91. he was known for his anti-war messages on the hill. he was critical of the vietnam war leading a filibuster and reading 141 pages of the pentagon papers allowed. elected to the senate in 1968 he ran for president twice, 2008 and 2020. more "politics nation" with al sharpton right after a short break. break. introducing the new citi custom cash℠ card, a different kind of card that rewards dan where his spending is trending. just ask stepping outside his comfort zone dan... dan: okay, i don't know where the hole for this is. or fourth time streaming that period drama dan... dan: you just made me miss her best line, dan: so now i'm going to have to start it again. even insisted he didn't need directions dan. dan: okay, i'm not lost. i'm exploring.

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are once again focused on the erosion of voting rights in this country. in what can only be described as a coordinated attack on democracy itself, republicans in state legislatures across the country have been passing bills intended to suppress the votes

of anyone who isn't already in their corner. and in most cases, it is obvious that these laws are targeting voters of color, young voters, and disabled voters with almost surgical precision. it's so indidious that even the department of justice is taking action against georgia. attorney general merrick garland announced a lawsuit saying the state's tactics are intended to, quote, deny or abridge the right of black georgians to vote. and yet this week senate republicans blocked even the possibility of debate on a national remedy when they successfully filibuster the for the people act. perhaps the most galling display of this anti-democratic cowardice is the reality that 50 republican senators who blocked the bill represent 43 million

viewer americans than the 50 democrats and independents who tried to pass it. so what can we do about this latest and greatest threat to democracy? well, we've been backed up against the wall before. in the summer of 2017, the republicans having take ten house, the senate, and the presidency, they declared their intention to repeal obamacare despite its wide popularity. but americans took action, rising up together, and showing up in droves for their representatives' town halls demanding they protect the health care law by any means necessary. it was a narrow sick tree, and know it was a narrow victory, it was a victory nonetheless. as congress heads home for its summer break, the activism of 2017 can provide a blue print

for how to save our democracy in 2021. and come august, we can rise up in even larger numbers. >> voting rights are under attack across america. >> and we are ready to rise up. >> on august 28th, 2021. >> august 28th. >> 58 years to the day after my grandfather led the march on washington. >> people all over america. >> in atlanta. >> washington, d.c. >> miami. >> houston. >> phoenix. >> and cities and towns across the country. >> will join together in the same non-violent non-partisan spirit of dr. king. >> to tell our elected officials we won't wait any longer. >> we need federal voting rights protections for every american. >> we cannot sit idly by as our votes are suppressed and our voices silenced.

so in the spirit of dr. martin luther king jr., the national action network, which i am the head of, together with martin luther king king iii and his wife andrea, and the march on coalition will peacefully march in washington and all over america to demand the foundation of this democracy, our votes, be protected. it has been over 200 years since our foundered ratified the constitution, and countless lives have been lost in the struggle to ensure that we, the people, means all the people. we cannot, we will not go back now. and so i invite each and every one of you as president of nan, as a civil rights leader, as a black american, to rise up, stan for voting rights in your own community. and come march with us in august. raise your voice and protect

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backlash over a plan to remove these prominent monuments have led to death threats. >> i am here at the monument. it is extremely chaotic right now. >> we cannot have reconciliation without you. >> we have intentionally misrepresented this history to our own citizens, on purpose. >> these people who are really bigoted, i bet we could just change their minds. >> we are back with a new film from the minds behind the daily show. looking at the persistent fight over removal of confederate monuments. the neutral ground, premiering july 5th on pbs from director c.j. hunt examines why the mt.s of the lost cause and a morally

noble confederacy continues to be points of discussion rather than objects of ridicule. and c.j. hunt joins us now. >> thank you, mr. hunt, for joining us tonight. can you explain for our audience what was happening in new orleans in 2015 when this project began, and why it was the catalyst for your film, the neutral ground? >> reverend sharpton thank you for having me. it is an honor. i also appreciate you leaving on the trailer of my dad laughing in my face. i moved to new orleans in 2007 to become teacher. by 2015 i was doing comedy writing. for me, comedy is a coping mechanism for figuring out how to put voice around the things i find really crazy and upsetting. as you remember n 2015, the most crazy thing, the most upsetting thing -- one of the most, was how hard some white people in

america were holding on to symbols of the confederacy even after a murderer massacred nine black people in a church in charlton. even after newsom climbed on the flag to pull that flag down you still had lawmakers saying this is our heritage, this belongs above our capitol. and you had folks coming to city council pretending that moving a monument across town was the apocalypse. i brought a camera to try to capture that. >> as i am viewing your film i am wondering how much the mainstreaming of the confederacy and mythology of the lost cause has played a role in the last five years leading into the insurrection. because even before trump, several states incorporated confederate symbols into their flags, into their license plates. and i'm old enough to remember a

show called the "dukes of hazzard" where the car was a big confederate ral rat flag called the general leigh. >> general leigh. >> that is popular culture. and it is tolerated culturally in a way the swastika isn't. why is that? >> first r.i.p. to general leigh, both the car and the general. eve your sentence -- before this last insurrection, there was tolerance of the last insurrection. that's the craziness around the confederacy. you can't name another war where we have us that, thousands of statues to a losing army, right? you can name another war where we judge cause of the war not my the many founding documents they had but by what was in the heart of some soldier, what leigh wrote to his wife. that's the absurdity of the

confederacy. this is the oldest propaganda campaign in american history. second old toast columbus discovered america. but as we have seen with the trump administration, you know, we witnessed a big lie be born in our time. we know what it is like to have someone say what you saw with your eyes didn't happen, it was something else. they weren't insurrections, they were patriots. the south wrote that story into our landscape right after the war. and it has stuck around so long we can't even recognize insurrectionists now. >> wow. i want play for our audience because i got such a kick out of it, you and a group of reenactors and a history lesson. roll this, please. >> throughout history, why have white supremacist always been attracted to the confederacy? rebels. >> rebels. >> that word right there, rebel. >> everybody wants to be a rebel. >> absolutely. >> you think white supremacists from kkk forward have been attracted to the confederacy not

because of slavery. >> it is because of the word rebel, that's it. >> i have been seeing it wrong? it is a black and white issue. >> it makes sense. >> that's all it is. >> i don't care where you go, it is a black and white issue. >> what, the kkk? >> the course of our production, were you ever convinced that anyone still willing to fight and die over the confederate statue or that understood that history as noble could legitimate had he not be racist? >> it is a fair question. you know? i mean, people are willing to fight and die over these things. those who were in new orleans remember folks who were not from there coming with ar-15s, you see the footage, and standing in the neutral ground saying they are going to die for that statue. people forget that charlottesville was inspired by white supremacists going there to try to top the city council

from removing a robert e. leigh money uchlt. yes, people are out there trying to fight and die for these. as to somehow it is possible to do that without be racist, i will say i have empathy for those who have not questioned the story they grew up. i don't think it is a question of whether you grew up with a lie. i think the question was once in 2020 you were being confronted with the fact that this was not true, that it emboldens racist murder do you have the moral courage to look back and say i guess that doesn't make sense, i guess that is true. if you don't have that moral courage yeah, i do think that is racism. >> thank you for being here, c.j. hunt. the neutral ground airs july 5th on pov at 9:30 p.m. up next, it wasn't just coronavirus hitting communities of color the most. another deadly trend has been affecting minorities amid the

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despite fewer cars on the road, traffic deaths were up last year by 7% overall. but 23% among black people. joining me now is professor charlie brown of rutgers' university, founder and ceo of equitable cities. now, professor, let me start with possible explanations for this disparity. according to the "washington post," researchers have concluded black communities tend to be crisscrossed more, by more dangerous roads, and the situation was compounded in the pandemic because black people were more likely to have the kind of essential jobs that required them to be out on those roads. are there any other factors? let me put it that way that we should be aware of for this startling discovery of the

rising, the rise of deaths by automobiles last year in the pandemic? >> first of all, reverend sharpton, it is a pleasure to be here, you are looking dapper as always. >> thank you. >> in addition to what was mentioned, other factors should be considered, includes a look of lighting in black and brown communities. as that report showed, crashes were up during the nighttime. this is indicative of the fact that in contros to black and brown communities' white counterparts they disproportionately work during traditional hours. it also has to do with vehicle access and ownership. blacks and latino households were much less likely to own a car than their without counterparts. therefore a dispoe portionate

share were forced to walk, bike or take. transit to work. as we take into consideration public transit, they are more likely to use public transit, but when we determined public transit wasn't as accessible to them during covid that left them to look at alternative forms of transportation such as walking, biking or catching a ride with a family or friend. place matters, too. let's not ignore place in this investigation. initial reports show the increases in the traffic fatales were on urban enter states and interan kplegtive roads, 15 to 20% respectively. who lives in those location force the most part? overwhelmingly black and brown. then there is the matter of commute distances. blacks and hispanics also tend to live far their away from their jobs. these are factors that must be takeen into consideration. >> now, it's not just drivers and passengers at risk. in 2021, a report from smart growth america showed black

pedestrians were 82% more likely to be hit by drivers. is this something that can be addressed by infrastructure improvements and higher standards for drivers? or something else entirely? >> oh, absolutely. we all know, these communities are in desperate need, these black and brown and native communities are in necessary pratt need of safe, equitable and inclusive access to transportation options so they can get safely to their job. -- and services. unfortunately what we have seen though is that historically what happens is this victim blaming. and we also couple that with the fact that state and local governments are leebing heavily towards education and enforcement over nechlts in these communities. despite the fact that black and brown residents are keeling over disproportionately on our

roadways what they are receiving is disproportion ate shares of education. and our white counterparts receive infrastructure investments. it points to a deeper systemic issue at all levels of government. and we have to get to the root cause of it. but i will leave you with it as it relates to that we know nhtsa and others should be providing us with a demographic profile of the drivers that are striking, injuries, and killing pedestrians, bicycles and others on our roadways. why is it that we know more if race, the age, the gender, the sex of the victim, but very little about the drivers? traditionally, near 38,000 people die in motor vehicle crashes every year. you would think there would be an outcry to know the other half of that story. >> as bad as the disparity is in the black community, american

india and alaska natives traffic debts were even worse. is this also an issue of sun safe roads in those communities? how does the issue differ in rural areas like reservations? briefly, please. >> i know very much about this. it has a lot to do with the fact those environments cater to automotive traffic. you have to drive further to get to your daily needs, and lastly, it has to do with the fact many native american communities, some, i should say, have casinos. due to this, you have increased traffic from the outside. you have people driving under influence, and you have speeding. all which together will certainly increase the fatality rate on our roadways. >> all right, thank you for joining us, charles brown. >> up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. ybody who's had it. your uncle had shingles. you mean that nasty red rash? and donna next door had it for weeks. yeah, but there's nothing you can do about it.

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