tv The Mehdi Hasan Show MSNBC June 27, 2021 5:00pm-6:00pm PDT
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rez joins me. plus capitol police officer's brian sicknick's mother and partner are here to discuss the january 6th right iot. the u.s. conducted air strikes, one in iraq and two in syria. more on this breaking story coming up. good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. for years now whatever their views on taxation or social security or immigration, one thing the republican party has been crystal clear about, has shouted from the rooftops in fact, has been supposedly consistent on, is that they are the law and order party, the national defense party, the patriotic party of the military and the police. even though the democrat who won the white house doesn't even support the mantra or the policy, nor do the vast majority of democrats in congress.
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but here's what's become so, so clear in recent days. undeniable even. the long-standing and famous republican love for the police and law enforcement, their unflinching defense of the military against the unpatriotic left, it was all a lie. the blue lives matter sloganizing had less to do with solidarity with the police and much more to do with keeping black people in check. the unsupposedly unquestioning veneration of the generals turned out to be easily dispensable when one of those generals, mark milley, publicly came out and slammed the right wing hysteria over the teaching of critical race theory. on wednesday, laura ingraham was so mad at milley that she called for the defunding of the military. i'm not making this up. >> why is congress not saying, we're not going to give you a penny until all of this is eradicated from the military budget, nothing? this is my offer to you, nothing. that's what i would say.
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>> on thursday, on fox, tucker swanson mcnear carlson, who has never served in the military, went further than ingraham, attacking general milley in a ridiculously over the top and vicious way. >> mark milley is the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he didn't get that job because he's brilliant or because he's brave or because the people who know him respect him. he is not, and they definitely don't. milley got the job because he is obsequious. he knows who to suck up to, and he's more than happy to do it. feed him a script, and he will read it. hard to believe that man wears a uniform. he's that unimpressive. notice he never defined white rage, and we should know what it is. what is white rage? he's not just a pig, he's stupid. >> if i had opened the show tonight calling america's top general a stupid pig, right wingers would be demanding my head, insisting that this network fire me for being a traitor and anti-the armed
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forces because it's one rule for the white conservative, another rule for the black or brown immigrant. you might say tucker and laura are opinion hosts on fox. they don't represent the gop. but here is high profile republican congressman matt gaetz calling this week for the defunding of the fbi. yes, the same fbi investigating him over allegations of child sex trafficking. allegations gaetz denies. here is gaetz, who has also never served in uniform and whogs daddy helped him get elected to congress in florida, mocking general milley on twitter. one rule for the white conservative, another for the black or brown immigrant. how about if 21 house democrats had veeted against the ard wag of the congressional gold medal for defending the capitol on
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january 6th? the right would have lost their minds. and yet that's what 21 house republicans did earlier this month. or if aoc had refused to shake the hand of a capitol police officer who approached her in an elevator. can you imagine the attacks she'd have gotten? and yet that's what gop congressman andrew clyde did when officer michael fanone, who was beaten and electroshocked by the pro-trump mob at the capitol on 1/6 approached him on an elevator earlier this month. >> i asked him if he was going to shake my hand, and he told me that he didn't know who i was. so i introduced myself. i said that i was officer michael fanone, that i was a d.c. metropolitan police officer who fought on january 6th to defend the capitol. at that point the congressman turned away from me, pulled out his cell phone. it looked like he was attempting to pull up like an audio recording app on his phone and again, like, never acknowledged me at any point. as soon as the elevators doors opened, he ran as quickly as he
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could like a coward. >> officer fanone has been pushing for an independent bipartisan commission to investigate the january 6th attack in which around 140 police officers were injured. this is footage from the body camera that officer fanone was wearing as he was brutally attacked. after that attack, capitol police officer brian sicknick lost his life and two officers, d.c. police officer jeffrey smith and capitol police officer howard leibengood took their own lives. fanone has been joined in this campaign by brian sicknick's mother gladys and brian's partner. she said in an op-ed that her deep sadness turned to outright rage as she watched republican members of congress lie about what happened that day. over and over they denied the monstrous acts committed by violent protesters. together in may, sandra and gladys went door to door on capitol hill in an effort to convince republican senators to vote to create a commission to
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investigate the attack. some senators were polite. others could barely hide their disdain, garza says. and 20 more wouldn't meet with them at all. their efforts failed. on friday, gladys was back on capitol hill alongside officer fanone and capitol police officer harry dunn to finally meet with house republican leader kevin mccarthy. this is officer fanone leaving that meeting. a picture, they say, is often worth a thousand words. for more on what went on inside and their effort to seek justice for officer sicknick, gladys sicknick, and sandra garza join me now. gladys, sandra, thank you so much for joining me on the show tonight. i'm so, so sorry for your loss and for the fact that you have had to campaign like this and knock on so many congressional doors. gladys, let me start with you. can you tell us what happened on friday during your meeting with house minority leader kevin mccarthy? can you describe the mood, the emotion in the room? did anything kevin mccarthy say make you feel better about this
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whole horrific situation? >> no, not really. he just kind of spun his words, and he -- but we did get through to him how we felt. it was very difficult. >> i can imagine. were you able to speak to him directly and put your concerns? did he acknowledge your pain, your requests? >> i'm hoping he did because i -- you know, i did say how i felt, that i was very disapointed, you know, especially with the medal of honor. i mean, how dare they not give all these police officers, you know, their due because they're really, really hurting. and i did meet with one of brian's friends afterwards, and that officer was really, really upset. so i'm really upset for the
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officers who are not getting what they deserve. >> yes. i can only imagine. sandra, 140 capitol police officers were injured during the insurrection. in the following days along with your partner, brian, two other officers, howard leibengood and jeffrey smith died by suicide. do you believe all three of those officers would be alive today had it not been for that attack, and do you believe donald trump, a man who i believe you and brian used to support, was responsible for inciting that horrific attack? >> so absolutely yes. i feel that donald trump is 100% responsible for inciting that attack as well as all of the people that, you know, were enabling him, following him, too terrified to stand up against him. i mean they all set this in motion. so, yes, i do harbor a lot of anger, a lot of pain over an
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event that really never should have happened. as far as brian, the main issue for me was i wanted these members to acknowledge, a, his death. i never heard a word from donald trump. and as i had said, you know, earlier in other interviews, he never sent a letter, and he still has not to this day even though i have come out and said i did support him. he knew even early on that brian was a huge supporter of his. i mean it was all over his twitter page and, you know, other social media outlets. so, you know, he was the president at that time, so i know he cannot claim ignorance that he did not know. and so, you know, that is the thing with me. i accept the medical examiner's, you know, cause of death. but it doesn't sit well with me that something that could have been preventable, someone i
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loved and cared about very much, had to suffer and to deal with that kind of assault on his last day on earth. as far as officer smith and officer leibengood, i feel that everyone who participated in enabling donald trump is responsible for their deaths. and i say that with 100% conviction. it's the truth and the fact that these members of congress who continue to outright deny what happened that day, the severity of that day, is just absolutely unforgivable. i really have a lot of anger about that. >> i can only imagine. gladys, let me ask you this. kevin mccarthy, who you met with on friday, he was asked about the makeup of the select committee to investigate january 6th. have a listen to what he was asked. >> will you commit to not
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putting the members in your conference who are spreading conspiracy theories or trying to minimize what happened on the 6th on that select committee? >> just with the speaker, she's never talked to me about it. i haven't seen the structure, what she does or anything else. so i won't make any commitment until i go there. >> are you okay, gladys, with gop house members like conspiracy theorist paul gosar or andrew clyde having a place on that committee? >> no, absolutely not. none of them should be on the committee. it should be people with more backbone and knowing exactly what happened. they know what happened, and i think senator mccarthy knew what happened too. you know, and then i just don't like the fact that he knew what
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was going on that day, and he did not -- donald trump did not stop the insurrection. he could have stopped it. i don't believe that it had to go through all kinds of -- go through the pentagon. he was the person who could have stopped that whole thing right from the get-go, and he did not. >> no, he didn't. he didn't indeed. sandra, one last question to you. 30 seconds left. i have to ask, you've talked about secondary wounding, the pain that feel when they lose someone and then have that death downplayed, dismissed as it has been. brian sicknick's death by the gop. what has that been like for you, especially a party that claims to support the police? >> yeah, it's -- it's devastating. it's, you know, outright like officer fanone said, lies. they know the truth. they're lying about this. and some of them may have been lucky in the sense that when they said i didn't feel threatened, well, that was due
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to the bravery of the officers that day who fought brutally. and i think one of them had said, you know, we fought too good that day. i thought that was such a poignant, powerful statement. things could have much differently. >> yeah. >> so, you know, it's very upsetting, and i just want to say one last thing. the individual who planted those pipe bombs still has not been found, and i think -- >> so true. >> i think this political game that they're playing is incredibly dangerous. i mean, you know, it's like they're just setting the stage for another serious attack to happen and people to die. so they need to knock it off and get serious about this. >> it is very dangerous. i'm glad you made that point, and i'm glad you're both keeping up this campaign. i appreciate it so much. gladys, sandra, again, i'm so sorry for your loss. turning to tonight's
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breaking news, those air strikes that president biden ordered earlier tonight against iran-backed militias, quote, unquote, near the iraq/syria border. moments ago, the president ignored questions about the strikes as he arrived back at the white house from camp david. the pentagon says the strikes targeted operational and weapons storage facilities in response to drone attacks by militias against u.s. personnel and facilities in iraq, adding that the strikes were both appropriate and limited in scope, so they say. for more, let's bring in nbc pentagon correspondent courtney kube. she joins us on the phone. courtney, how expected were these strikes, or were they completely unexpected? >> reporter: so they were expected in the sense that we've been hearing more and more in recent days from u.s. military and defense officials about their concerns of these drone attacks that are happening in iraq and syria. what these are usually are these small, unmanned little drones, what the pentagon called unmanned aerial vehicles, that are coming in and attacking bases, at times trying to attack
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personnel. facilities in iraq and syria. and some of them have been successful in that they have damaged property and, you know, attempted to injure american personnel. so the fact that we've been hearing more and more about it recently, i'm not terribly surprised that the u.s. has responded to it. this is similar -- of course i'm sure you remember mehdi, back in february, president biden ordered another set of retaliatory strikes against iran-backed militias. in that case, it was because they had been carrying out a series of rocket attacks. those got a lot more attention at the time. these drone strikes, these drone attacks, they've been going on for some time, but they have stepped up just recently. one thing that we know about them is these strikes that the u.s. took tonight were carried out by manned aircraft, f-15s and f-16s, usually air force. there was one in iraq. there were two in syria. they were all three kind of along that border region between iraq and syria. and they struck at some of these
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militia groups. one of them is kata'ib hezbollah. it's one of the ones carrying out many of these attacks against americans, particularly in iraq over the last couple of years. >> yeah. of course the iranians are going to respond, or they've got a new conservative hard-line president. not going to sit quietly, are they? >> you know, given the fact that these -- this is iraq and syria, but in this case really more iraq is so complicated. this wasn't a strike against iran. this wasn't the u.s. conducting air strikes inside iran or even against really iran personnel. these are the proxy groups that fight on behalf of iran, or in many cases they are trained by and weapons are provided by iran, but they're not actually -- this is not actually a direct strike against iran. so i would not necessarily expect an actual attack by iran, a response by iran. but we should expect to continue to see strikes by the militia groups. >> let's hope this didn't
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escalate. nbc's courtney kube, thanks for your update. coming up, new details about trump's time in office are starting to reveal themselves in books, and they're not only unflattering, they're downright scary. the department of justice is going to make an example out of the state of georgia and show the people what happens when you try to oppress the right to vote. that's coming up next. not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ the lexus es. every curve, every innovation, every feeling. a product of mastery. get 0.9% apr financing on the 2021 es 350.
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president biden proudly revealed his bipartisan infrastructure deal this week. democrats and republicans coming together to work as one big happy family. you'll be forgiven to think we had ventured into an alternate universe. back slapping, handshakes, smiles and good times at the white house. both parties working together in harmonious unity, right? >> this reminds me of the days we used to get an awful lot done up in the united states congress. >> joe biden is destroying our nation right before our very own eyes. >> america can function, can get things done. >> we can use bipartisanship to solve these challenges. >> what he's done to our nation is unthinkable in a short period of time. >> america works. the senate works, and we can work together. >> we need a republican congress to shut down the lawless biden agenda.
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>> the republican party's de facto leader isn't interested in bipartisan politics, nor has mitch mcconnell. nor are republican-led state legislatures like the one in georgia, which is trying to decimate voting rights for black and brown residents, which the biden doj is actually suing them over. so how long can democrats keep up this weird balancing act, working with republicans to build roads and bridges while condemning them for demolishing democracy? joining me now is democratic congresswoman from georgia, nikema williams. congresswoman, thanks so much for coming back on the show. i want to ask you about these efforts to work alongside your republican counterparts. do you honestly believe we can have bipartisan politics while donald trump, as we saw there, as we saw last night, is still very much in the picture? ohio senator rob portman, a supposed republican moderate, said this morning trump is definitely the leader of their party. how can you hold on to your values and work with these people?
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>> i mean, mehdi, he's right. trump is the leader of their party, which is why i think you heard speaker pelosi loud and clear when she reaffirmed that the house and the senate make up the united states congress. and the house of representatives is not going to pass this bipartisan pill until we have the commitment and seeing the reconciliation bill pass for infrastructure. because honestly if you can't trust people to lead on democracy issues and to be on the side of democracy, how can i trust them on anything else? so i am cautiously optimistic about moving forward on anything with republicans. >> well, i'm glad to see that you are a realist in your party. republican senator john barrasso spoke with fox news this morning saying there's no way republicans are going to support the bipartisan package if it's linked to broader spending, a separate reconciliation bill that doesn't require their vote. have a listen. >> i'm a doctor, and i will tell you, you can get whiplash by
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trying to follow joe biden on this. take a look at what happened. first he agrees with a bipartisan bill focused on real infrastructure, and within two hours, he buckles to nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, who say not so fast. this bipartisan bill itself is not yet completely settled. there are a number of republicans -- and i'm one of them -- who is not completely sold on it. by there are a lot of republicans, probably ever republican who says there's no way we're going to support this first bipartisan bill if it is in any way linked and connected to this much bigger basically freight train heading towards socialism. >> last week joe biden was saying, congresswoman, he'd veto this bipartisan infrastructure bill if the rest of his spending plans on child care, climate change, et cetera aren't also passed in a reconciliation bill. now he's saying not necessarily. you're a house democrat. will you vote to pass a smaller bipartisan infrastructure deal without a guarantee from this white house that there will be a
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reconciliation bill with all the other crucial stuff that was left out of the first one? >> mehdi, i think there will be a reconciliation bill passed. speaker pelosi is going to bring up this bill only when we've already seen the reconciliation bill going through the senate. so we have her commitment as a caucus and we know we're doing the work of the people. this isn't about appeasing republicans in congress or appeasing one branch of government. this is about making sure that we're all working on behalf of the american people, and that's what i'm in congress to do. >> moving on to your state of georgia, congresswoman, the department of justice is suing the republican legislature there over the restrictive voting rights legislation that's been passed. governor brian kemp has hit back saying he's not scared of joe biden or stacey abrams or merrick garland. how important is this action from the doj, and what outcome are you expecting? >> this is really important. it shows that finally we have a department of justice who is truly representing the people of this country and willing to step
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in when our civil rights are on the line. right now we know that if the federal government did not step in and intervene in voting rights in the '60s, that me as a black woman in the south, i wouldn't even have the right to vote right now. so i am glad that the department of justice is stepping in because it also shows that it eventually won't be this conversation just about georgia. jar has been ground zero for voter suppression, but also we're seeing this in so many other states across the country. so the department of justice is showing exactly what i've been saying all along. it does not matter what your zip code is. your access to the ballot should be standardized in this country. >> congresswoman, i look at democratic and republican senators standing with biden outside the white house, i feel like, yay, we're going to get new roads and bridges even if we're not going to be a democracy anymore. there's this weird balancing act your party is performing right now. >> yeah, and i think that's why i said i don't really trust them, mehdi, because if somebody is not willing to stand up for
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the foundations of our democracy, then how can i trust them at their word or something as infrastructure? we saw republicans willing to vote against the american rescue plan, which was about getting our children back to school, people back to work, cutting childhood poverty in half, and they still weren't willing to do that. the verdict is still out, and we'll see what happens. >> well said, congresswoman nikema williams. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. coming up, an inside look at the trump organization as it faces possible criminal charges. but first a look at the headlines. stories we're watching this hour. search and rescue operations continue at the site of the collapsed condo in surfside, florida, the unaccounted for 152. minnesota lawmakers -- they include limits on no new york
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welcome back. it's time now for what i'm calling the 60-second rant. start the clock. last july i anchored a show on msnbc for the first time sitting in for chris hayes, and i used the f word, fascism, in relation to donald trump. back then some lost their minds. i was accused of exaggeration. in the months since, we saw trump refuse to accept the results of a free and fair election and then incite a mob to attack the capitol. according to one new book, donald trump called on his armed
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forces to crack skulls and beat the f out of racial justice protesters. last summer he reportedly said just shoot them. now we're also learning that trump wanted to invoke the insurrection act to violently put down those protests. according to another new book, trump wanted to send american citizens infected with covid-19 to guantanamo bay. when i said trump was guilty of fascism last august, i was accused of overstatement. nearly a year on given what we're reading and seeing, maybe the f word in relation to trump was an understatement. political newcomer india walton upset four-term incumbent brian brown to become the democratic candidate for mayor in buffalo, new york. she's here coming up. ester. and tonight... i'll be eating the chicken quesadilla from...tony's tex mex...in... katy. (doorbell) (giggle) do ya think they bought it?
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so how do you all wanna play this? low cash mode on virtual wallet fast. that's another level. it's not looking good tonight for the trump organization. manhattan district attorney cyrus vance is on track to announce criminal charges against the company as soon as next week according to multiple people familiar with the matter. the case is expected to center around an effort to avoid paying state taxes in the form of gifts and non-monetary compensation doled out to the organization's employees, including its top financial man, allen weisselberg. but it's important to remember these charges would be against the trump organization, not donald trump himself.
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nevertheless, trump's entire finances are based on that organization. it's what's kept him afloat, and it's everything that he exists for. any indictment would force the former president to defend the company he's run for decades. joining me now is barbara res, former executive vice president at the trump organization and author of "tower of lies: what my 18 years of working with donald trump reveals about him." thanks so much for coming on the show tonight. this is a crisis clearly for the trump organization. how much of a crisis is this for donald trump personally, who as we saw last night in ohio is still much more focused on his election defeat than his company? >> i think that it has to do with the level of belief he may have in what's happening and how it will affect him. he may not be at that point yet where he expects this is going to happen. he may be at the point where it's going to go away like everything else has in his experience. so if he is really cognizant of
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this being a major problem and could put him in a position to defend his company and not defend it well, then i think he's probably very, very angry and kind of beside himself. yesterday's performance was okay. it was toned down. it wasn't crazy like it might have been. >> good observation. i mean the bar is so low for donald trump. you worked at the trump organization at the same time as allen weisselberg. what do you make of this guy, and is he ever likely to flip because he's stayed pretty loyal to trump so far. >> you know, i was surprised that he has stayed loyal as long as he has, especially with the specter of criminal charges against him and maybe even his family and jail time. i don't see how allen would be willing to go to jail. now, why, then, is he not flipping? i love that expression because when anyone says "flip," it automatically trump did
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something illegal and allen knows it. otherwise, why would he be flipping? i think there's got to be reason why he's not, and what can trump give him? he can't give him a pardon obviously. those days are gone. maybe there's some kind of financial arrangements or maybe there's some kind of threats. maybe allen is petrified of trump. that wouldn't surprise me. >> the case is expected to center around these lavish gifts, including tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for one of mr. weisselberg's grandchildren reportedly as well as rent for an apartment, car leases. did you see conduct like that during your time at the trump organization? >> not to the same extent as it is now. i mean trump gave things away, things that didn't cost him any money for instance. gm gave him a cadillac once. they expected him to drive it around. he gave it to an employee. when i was there, it was things
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like tickets to the games and things like that. it wasn't things like apartments. but the potential was there. i could see how trump would tell me, you know, offer this guy this or offer this guy that. he had that mind-set of what can i get, quid pro quo, and practiced it, but not on the same level as now. >> barbara res, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for your insights tonight. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. coming up at the top of the hour, joshua johnson is live from the new york city pride celebration for "the week in pride." he'll be joined by representatives david cicilline and marie newman to discuss the equality act. and actress molly bernard on lgbtq+ representation. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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former u.s. senator mike gravel has passed away. he was 91 years old. he represented alaska for 12 years from 1969 to 1981. while there, he made a name for himself with his outspoken opposition to the vietnam war, to the military draft, and to president nixon's war on drugs. but he was most famous for his one-man filibuster in 1971. he broke down into tears while reading 4,100 pages from the pentagon papers to enter them into the congressional record. >> let me respond that we made such a sacrifice to preserve freedom and liberty in southeast asia. one may respond that we sacrifice ourselves on the continent of asia so that we will not have to fight a similar
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war on the shores of america. one can make these arguments only if he has failed to read the pentagon papers. >> after losing the 1980 alaska democratic senate primary, he didn't retire and become a k street lobbyist like so many of his colleagues. he later ran for president twice, slamming our endless wars and condemning hawkish democrats and republicans alike in the process. he continued to speak truth to power. so tonight, senator gravel, rest in power. now, the trouble-making heirs are not just aoc asked squad, but a socialist nurse who pulled off a huge upset in buffalo, new york. india walton joins me live next. do not go away. ♪since you hung around♪ welcome back, america.
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there's been a surprise twist in the race for mayor of buffalo, new york. activist waltman is now the democratic candidate for mayor having smashed her opponent for byron brown. walton set to be the first socialist mayor in new york state's second largest biggest city, she is likely to be on the first ever female mayor of buffalo. her win flying in the face of democrats that they no longer understand people of color or the centrists control the democratic party now. a young black self-proclaimed
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socialist set to change the game. joining me now from buffalo is the woman of the hour, india walton. thanks so much for coming on the show tonight. congratulations on your win. how did you pull it off, a nurse with very little party backing or name recognition running against a four-term incouple -- incumbent in new york's second biggest city. >> thank you so much. this victory belongs to the people. this was a concerted, organizing effort. so many people were disappointed with the response that -- or the lack of response, we felt, of it the murder of george floyd and during the midst of a global pandemic. we were just tired. and we turned our protesting and our outrage into organizing and people power. bernie sanders said the way to win against organized money is with organized people. that's what we set out to do. and we organized and we won. >> you did. and you mentioned george floyd. one of the big issues facing new buffalo is, of course, crime and
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policing. we all remember those awful images of the buffalo police officers who pushed over the elderly man peacefully protesting. the assault charges against the officers were dropped. but also there is the issue of rising violent crime on the other hand according to buffalo police. shootings are up 116% year on year. how do you as mayor plan to walk that fine line between reigning in the police and keeping violent crime under control? it's a tough challenge. >> thank you for that question. it's a very difficult challenge. and being a person who was up and from this community, i know the way we combat violent crime is not with police but with opportunities w resources, with equality education, with living wage, high quality jobs. our police budget is more inflated than it's ever been. we have police on the streets who are not preventing or solving crime, yet crime is up. it's clear we're not doing things that our scientifically
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proven and backed by data to be effective. so i'm looking forward to working with national experts such as the grassroots law project and others to reimagine public safety. and put the resources at the neighborhood and ground level and do things that we know naturally reduces crime and thus reduces the need for more police presence. >> you were asked by "the new york times" last week about defund the police. a slogan, policy popular on left. you're on left. yet, you said, "i try and avoid using negative language on campaigns" which i found fascinating. talk to me a bit more about what you mean by that. and what the implications are of that statement. >> you know, i -- it's funny you mention it. i just got an e-mail from marshal. i learned organizing from marshal gance and story telling and controlling the narrative. we tell our story our way. and what is most resonating with people is not the -- we don't
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want to focus on what we're against but what we're for public safety for all people. so we focus on the pros, what we're going to do, efforts we're going to make and reinvesting and putting our investmentes in the right places so we can create a safer community for all. >> so you're right about the power of story telling. just to be clear for our viewers and for the people of buffalo, put story telling slogan aside. >> the police budget is reallocated under my watch. we're going to remove police from services that are not trained or not a good use of time to do. currently in buffalo, we have police responding to mental health calls. we have them responding to traffic enforcement. even things like tall grass. and that's not just the best use of a police officer's time. so we are going to bring the
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professionals such as mental health professionals, homelessness outreach and social workers that can combat the societal woes that we've been expecting them to respond to due to cuts in services and have them better utilize their time in preventing and solving crime. >> so let's go back to story telling. you mentioned the importance of how you tell your own story. let's talk about the s word. socialism. it's a scary word. for democrats, democrats always worry that republicans will tar them all as socialists, will cost them votes. there is a number of democrats that i'm sure you know think the socialism label cost them house seats last november. yet you proudly call yourself a socialist. you just won a merrill race -- a mayoral race against the odds. >> working class people are really waking up to the fact that neoliberal politics is not
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what we want and not what we need. it is not what is going to improve outcomes and increase being it with, social and racial justice in our communities. democratic socialism means that we prioritize the workers, the 99% keeping our communities going. and we stop prioritizing and continuing to enrich the wealthy, you know, our neoliberal form of politics is the enclosure of wealth and power. democratic socialism just means we draw down power and wealth into the hands of where it belongs and that is into those of the workers and every day average people. we all have a part to play in governing our local, state and federal government. you should not have to be wealthy and powerful in order to make decisions regarding your own lives. and we all deserve safe quality affordable housing. we all deserve health care. we all deserve infrastructure that keeps us safe and we deserve quality education for our children.
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well said. i just want to play for our audience the moment you told your mother that you won this election. have a listen. >> mommy! i won! mommy, i'm the mayor of buffalo! yes! >> oh, my gosh! >> yes, mom! i won! >> i enjoyed watching that. i have to ask you, there is real passion on display. what does it mean to you to have won this primary as a young black woman? as an activist, as a political outsider? >> it means that we can. it means that despite the odds, i've even now, right, there are members of the billionaire class that mounting a defense against me and progressive politics. but it means that we can. it means that the power of the people matters. it doesn't matter how many challenges you face in your life, you -- we matter.
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working class people are capable of leadership. black women are capable of leadership. and we belong everywhere. i'm just glad, i'm so happy i can set an example and happy i can lead buffalo into the 21st session of being progressive and inclusive city that cares and puts people at the center of our government. >> i have to ask, you were a nurse, a community organizer. was there a particular moment when you said i'm going to run for mayor and defeat the four term incumbent? when was that moment? >> after the uprisings, you know, during the pandemic, ways collecting -- people were donate stimulus checks so we do buy groceries and deliver them to seniors in our neighborhood over in the historically black neighborhood in buffalo. i thought why is it the community that is doing the work of our local government. there are so many people doing such great work. i want to be able to support
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that. >> that -- aim glad you're able. to india walton, thank you for your time tonight. thank you all for watching. we're off next week. we'll be back july 11th at 8:00 p.m. eastern. you can catch me monday through thursday on "the choice" on streaming channel peacock. now time to turn it over to joshua johnson. >> hey. there i think it's about to get louder here than the conversation you just had. good to see you tonight. hello to you. i'm joshua johnson. great to be with you tonight for our especially "the week in pride." the we're live at the birthplace of the modern lgbtq rights movement, the stonewall inn. the celebrations are lively, you'll hear from lawmakers and activists about how far this community has come and where it goes from here. we'll focus on the equality act,
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