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collapse in surfside. our coverage continues right now with chris jansing. thanks, and good morning. i am chris jansing in for craig melvin. we are expecting an update from officials in surfside florida. it's day six of search and rescue efforts of the collapsed condo there. 150 people are still missing and 11 people are dead. the sense of duty that first responders are feeling right now is driving them deeper into the rubble. >> they respond to 911 calls in tampa, and tallahassee, and they are doing the same thing here. >> we will have more on reports of damage and new reports of the
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building before the collapse. we will go to the conference when it starts. today president biden is hitting the road to sell the infrastructure deal, but is the bigger sell in washington. the house select committee to investigate january 6th is taking shape. if you think it's too early to talk 2024, think again. some big-name republicans are making moves. so where does the former president fit in. answers from voters in iowa might just surprise you. day six of search and rescue efforts at the collapsed condo building. nobody has been pulled out alive since thursday. and msnbc's mike memorandaly is
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covering the white house. 11 people are dead, 150 still missing. what can you tell us about what first responders are doing on the ground in the larger efforts to investigate the collapse? >> chris, good morning. it's a two-fold push. search and rescue mission nonstop. this is a search and rescue mission. every official here will stress that. they are not calling it a recovery mission just yet, because they believe there are pockets of air within the rubble that could still be sustaining life. that's what is giving families hope. families of the 150 people still missing are not staying too far away from where we are standing at a nearby hotel.
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they are getting updates every few hours. and people survive collapses for more than two weeks in some cases, and that's what is giving them hope. as you mention, there's multiple investigations in play right now on a local state and federal level. we know a team of building specialists that investigated the collapse of the world trade center, they are on site, gathering and preserving evidence and taking a preliminary look to see if they should have a deeper dive at what went wrong at champlain towers. it appears concrete deterioration has only gotten worse. that was just a couple months ago. so the fact is people were well aware of significant issues. it was totaling $16 million in repairs. i want you to hear what one
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woman had to say about this ongoing situation. take a listen. >> this is a very tight-knit community, and we will remain that way. but officials at surfside need to be held accountable. >> reporter: as it stands now, you mentioned the president and first lady expected here on thursday. a briefing is set to happen in half an hour. unfortunately with each one of these briefings we have had over the last couple of days, we have heard the death toll kick up. if they can find one person, just one, it would give so much hope for everybody here left anxiously waiting. chris? >> amazing what they are doing there. the heroic work that they will continue with. mike, minutes ago the white house said president biden and the first lady will visit surfside on thursday, and that's
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a tricky thing because they don't want to take away from the work being done on scene, but they want to show support. >> you have been kinds of these parts of presidential visits before. white house officials saying they are coordinating with local officials to make sure the president and first lady's visits with first responders and those waiting for their loved once will not get in the way of the work under way. the fema director is on site and met with the governor yesterday and had a briefing that followed that with the president to share what he has been learning. there's a federal assistance team on the ground there from fema. and fema coordinating with the local government officials on a family assistance center. chris, you know this well having been part of coverage of vice
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president biden, now president biden, the role that he will be playing is one of consoler and chief, and wanting to meet with law enforcement and want to go meet with some of the family members where white house officials and the campaign before them is his superpower, as they put it, and it's such an important opportunity to lend his assistance at the time. >> the appreciation of families when somebody of that stature, obviously, shows up and talks to them, especially somebody, as you say, with joe biden's empathy and his unfortunate personal experience. mike, you stay with us. morgan chesky, we appreciate your reporting very much. on the ground in surfside,
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we are learning an engineering report found major structural damage under the pool deck and signs of previous garage concrete repairs were failing. msnbc news has obtained a report after that was done, and they said -- i want to go deeper with kobe carp, a local architect known for his work in surfside. appreciate you taking the time to be with us. it's standard to have a report done like this and it found structural damage, and then a surfside official said the building looks like it's good in shape. what are your thoughts on that
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considering your experience with town officials? >> number one, thank you very much for taking the time. i want to send my prayers and wishes to friends and family who are in the building and live in buildings nearby. i think right now what is in the report and information coming to light, obviously as we try to put this together, hopefully we have an opportunity as inspectors and the government officials come together and hopefully make our inspections a bit more thorough. you will see the drilling of the concrete for the salt quantity, and hopefully maintain and better proofing the condo
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buildings to meet that. >> and there was a letter that warned the building needed repairs, and it said in a letter why construction projects were worth doing. you have the push and pull of the finances of it, right? at some point does something say this needs to be done, not next year, ten years from now, but we need to look at this right now? are there real standards and processes in place right now? >> yeah, this is a very good
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point and quite frankly the homeowners association is made up of individuals who are not engineers or contractors and don't have a lot of knowledge and experience, and this building was built in 1981, so it is a rather young building, and i was 18 years old when this was being designed and built, and if it is not maintained, the homeowners association has an issue, and the saltwater and salt air continues to penetrate into the concrete and gets past the muscle which is the concrete and into the bone, which is the steel, and it starts to deteriorate the steel. this is the issue. once the steel starts to corrode
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it continues to corrode and to really be at a weakened position, to a point where you don't know what is behind the concrete and you don't know the exact situation. many times we go into these buildings and start to scrape away and find much more damage, much more cancer than we originally thought it was. that is a common denominator. this is a watershed point where right now what i am seeing, the government officials and inspectors, getting together, and this attention it's getting it will create a new opportunity and a new day for us to look at how we inspect these buildings and how they are moving forward. we went through the same thing after hurricane andrew, and we rewrote the code book. >> again, we don't know what happened here, but the "miami herald" reports, two days
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earlier there were damage of the pool taken by the pool contractor. according to that paper, he said this was standing water all over the parking garage, and severely corroded rebar under the pool. that's his report and we have not confirmed it. bottom line, an attorney for the champlain towers said there could be several factors, construction, drilling, sub surface problems. how do we get to the bottom of this. i am very curious about what the intense conversations might be among those of you who are architects in that area and understand the specifics of building where this bidding was built? >> yeah, those photos are regretfully very helpful to understand what is going on
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behind the scenes, and part of that report, if you read the report, there's actually a sentence in there where he is stating that if this waterproofing and this damage occurred here by the pool area, where else in the building could it have occurred, meaning i don't know if they had an opportunity to see the whole building, and i don't know if they went on the roof, but there are other waterproofing membranes that protect not only the garage and pool deck, because the pool is still standing, you can look at the aerials and it's still standing, and the rooftop, i didn't see any roof repair material on the existing building that is still standing. i don't know if the waterproofing maybe gave way on the roof. i think the forensic engineers will get through that in the next few weeks and months. i think that we will have a very certain direction as to the point -- the trigger point of
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this wildfire. it's like a wildfire. it has a point, and there's always a match or cigarette that started it up someplace. it's a compilation of issues. >> thank you so much for being with us. turning to capitol hill, new setbacks for the bipartisan infrastructure deal. the house will not take up the by -- bipartisan bill until the senate takes up the other bill. this comes as president biden hits the road pitching the near trillion-dollar infrastructure plan.
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nbc's mike memorandum boughly is standing by. mcconnell and pelosi are at separate ends of the spectrum it seems, so where does it all leave the bill right now? >> chris, the bill is very much alive. president biden pulled this out of a sinkhole over the weekend by clarifying the remarks he will not veto one bill without the other, and the remarks and mood i have heard from republican lawmakers and aides i have spoken to since then have bench more positive. there are are a couple things to watch for, the nonpartisan scorekeeper, they have to make sure the numbers add up and if they do they should be smooth sailing going forward. and mitch mcconnell, is he going to whip his members and try to pressure them if he does not get
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the demand from nancy pelosi. the speaker is not backing down on her remarks she wants to pass the families plan in order to call a vote on the infrastructure deal because the votes are not there among democrats to pass the smaller infrastructure bill without the other bill. moderates have gotten the memorandum row. joe manchin spoke to stephanie ruhle about that. >> if we don't have any republicans, i don't know that, and we will have to work it through reconciliation. i have not agreed on the amount because i have not seen everything everybody is wanting to put into a bill. >> that's joe manchin keeping the door wide open to the secretary reconciliation
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process. there's very little enthusiasm in the senate republican conference for killing this bill because everybody wants those roads and bridges in their state, and the question is how senator mcconnell handles this. >> yeah, and to the point how the politics shakes out, mike, and while the bill is missing critical initiatives on climate change i impose, i tend to pass the reconciliation bill, nonetheless, creating a step forward for the clean energy in the future. >> chris, i mean, what the president and the white house acknowledged yesterday was that he misspoke as he was diving into the parliamentary process of how these two packages will
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move through congress. what the president's trip to wisconsin is is about building that outside pressure in. he is traveling to a district that president trump won in the presidential election last year, but is represented by a democrat in congress. wisconsin, itself, a key battleground in the 2020 election, and it is one in 2022 that will have a marquee senate race. the president going to visit a bus depot today and talking about the public transit components and boosting broadband technology. that's the effort by the white house to shine a spotlight on what they believe is a widely popular proposal. we did hear from secretary pete buttigieg who offered his state of play. take a listen. >> look, we recognize that congress is going to handle it according to whatever process
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and sequence makes sense to them. that's one area where the minority leader is right. the president doesn't dictate processes, and what you will see is this administration continuing to go to bat for both sets of things. >> they are trying to try and remain focused at the white house on the big picture, and we are seeing the president on the road today. the white house announcing he will travel to michigan on saturday to promote the fact that the country, as they are putting it, america is back together from the covid, and the dnc is looking at a prepandemic life.
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>> thanks to both of you. we are expecting an update from officials in surfside florida a couple minutes from now. of course, we will have that for you raoeuf. we see the mic set up and ready to go there. first, democrats have put out there plan for a select committee to investigate the attack, and will it get any republican votes? we'll get to that next. uno, dos, tres, cuatro!
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this morning the house is one step closer to seating a select committee to investigate the january 6th insurrection. speaker nancy pelosi formerly introduced a bill setting the framework for that committee. it calls for 13 members of congress to sit on it, but the big question is how many if any republicans will it include. we are joined from capitol hill by garrett. this committee comes after republicans rejected the bipartisan commission, and how does speaker pelosi plan to set up the committee and who do we know will be on it? >> it will have 13 speakers, and the eight will be picked by the speaker, and the other five will be picked.
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the republicans view this as a political exercise. the speaker has to choose a chair and her members on it. and speaker pelosi floated the idea that she might choose a republican to be one of her seats on it. you can imagine somebody like a liz cheney or adam kinzingey. even the members, some of the 35 republicans voted for the commission to investigate january 6th, and they said we voted for the commission because we wanted to avoid this outcome and avoid a highly charged committee that will look like to republicans how the benghazi investigation looked to
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democrats. >> it could be very interesting to watch how that goes. thank you. coming up, we will head back to surfside, florida, where we expect officials to come to the microphones anytime now. plus, new research into how long the moderna and pfizer vaccines could keep you protected against covid. why scientists are now saying those vaccines could last for years. first, america is back. that's the mess edge from the dnc this morning, as it launches a new ad campaign after a year of lockdowns and economic hardship. here's part of it. >> the american holiday. a celebration of freedom. this year there's more to celebrate. the freedom to hug a grandchild,
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balconies. the building is gone. there's no elevators. it almost resembles the trade center. >> any second now officials are scheduled to give an update on the search and rescue efforts. so far 11 people dead and 150 missing and nobody has been pulled alive from the rubble since thursday. nbc's antonia hilton is on the ground. i was listening earlier and you spoke to a volunteer that is searching for survivors and described the scene so vividly as the gates of hell. tell us about the folks you have talked to and where this is all going? >> reporter: hi, chris, yeah, those words stuck with me as they painted such a visceral
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picture when you get up this close to the site of the rubble. now on day six of the search and rescue mission, the feel something a bit grim and there's a bit of a divide between the first responders and the public, where first responders are hoping to pull somebody alive from the rubble, and then the view of the friends and family of those that live in the south tower that came down, and many are losing hope and don't believe their friend or grandmother could survive six days under heavy concrete and sheet rock. there's a moment that lives a block away from where i am now, and her friend is accounted for and she told me she doesn't believe her friend is alive at this point. there have been moments where
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citizens have demanded accountability and trying to understand the pace of the recovery. you just spelled out those numbers. 11 people confirmed dead, but 150 unaccounted for. when you look at that number, it feels completely overwhelming to people here in the community. it's important to understand this has moved slowly for the first responders, because it's extremely dangerous. some of the family members witness a responder fall down 25 feet while doing the work, and it hit home how hard the work has been and why the process is moving at the speed it's moving. that doesn't change for the families, their desire to hear answers or get closure right now, and there's a position between the needs and the reality of facing the rubble here, and then the needs for the
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family to have answers, and so the presser set to start any minute, we hope to get answers and privately in conversations many people are moving from this hope that they are going to find their loved ones to a phase of wanting more accountability, and answers to how this happened and who is responsible for it? i think you will hear many people focus more on the next piece in the coming days. >> thank you for reporting. we are going to continue to wait for that briefing to start. meantime, today first lady jill biden is spending their day in dallas, and the trip comes as the administration is stepping
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up the vaccination push as the more contagious delta variant is spreading across the country. this morning the concerns over the delta variant grow, and protection from the pfizer and moderna shots could last much longer than we thought, meaning booster shots might not be necessary for years. those that have covid and then got vaccinated, they could have immunity for a lifetime. joining me now to discuss the significant development, an internal medicine physician. how encouraged are you by this research in these findings? >> the question we get all the time is whether we will need boosters and how often. this is helpful. they looked and found the
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vaccine produced a strong reaction that could protect against the vaccine. in this study, you know, vaccination led to high levels of neutralizing antibodies, which are effective against three variants of the various, including the baiteda variant that. we still don't know how long protection from the vaccines lasts, we know there's potential for the variants to evolve and side step the protection. >> let's talk about the growing
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concern over the delta variant, doctor. it's strongly recommended in l.a. people wear masks in doors, and a fellow californian, as a fellow californian, do you think they should be reimplementing these types of guidelines? >> we know the variant is extremely contagious and is quickly becoming the dominant variant in the u.s. at this point, given how fast this variant is spreading, vaccines alone will not stop community transmission. while we know that fully vaccinated people who become infected with delta tend to have milder symptoms, and those only partially vaccinated and the unvaccinated are certainly at high risk. this is why it's a good idea for
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everybody to wear masks consistently indoors and avoid crowded places. right now it's in our best interest to play it safe because a large portion of the country is still unvaccinated. it's up to all of us to protect the vulnerable, our children and people compromised and people across the world who have not yet had the opportunity to get a vaccine. >> a couple stories i saw and wanted to ask about and that's contract tracing. covid-19 contract tracers race against delta variant in the u.s., and says as the pandemic slows in the u.s. the public health department say they are finally able to stop new outbreaks. the challenge is convincing those that may have been exposed to quarantine and follow mitigation efforts, because so many people feel like, oh, we're
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in the clear now. especially those who have been vaccinated and could be still infected with a variant of concern. and even fully vaccinated people should consider testing under certain circumstances. what is your message to the vaccinated who have gone back to their, normal lives, for lack of a better term? >> i think in general we know the numbers of new cases across the board, and people are feeling this return to a sense of normalcy, and unfortunately we are seeing community transmission, and hospitalizations and deaths in places with low vaccination rates. as families are enjoying the warm weather, traveling and really planning for a return to school in the fall for kids and such, we really are urging everyone to get their vaccines and complete their course as fast as possible. they are safe and quite effective, and for people fully vaccinated, we still need to proceed with caution.
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things like the delta variant are emerging quickly and quickly becoming dominant, and the way forward is for us to continue to stay safe and think about our neighbors and friends. >> here, here. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. we are ready to head back to surfside, florida any minute. we will take you as soon as the briefing starts. first, former president trump has started campaign-style rallies again, but do republican voters want to see him run in 2024? we will see reporting about that and the other potential candidates making trips to iowa. plus, it's so hot in portland, oregon, the city had to shutdown the streetcar system, literally melting the power cables. we will get the latest on the
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we're tipping to follow the breaking news as we see folks setting up at surfside, florida. we are expecting an update on the collapse of the condo to start about 15 minutes ago, and we will continue to bring it to you live as soon as that happens. plenty of gop presidential hopefuls already have their eyes on iowa. the latest, arkansas senator, tom cotton. he's heading to iowa today to launch. there's a report in the "washington examiner," republicans voters not sure if they want trump to run again.
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senior political correspondent, and i heard some of this when i was in florida the last time. republicans not sure if they want former president trump to run again. what did you hear directly from voters? >> well, i heard some of the same. now, i think, chris, we have to understand where voters are coming from, republican voters. by and large they were thrilled with president trump's president see and wish he would have won, and they tend not to be too bothered that he never conceded to president biden and made claims about the election and republicans are undecided about this. i didn't do any scientific polling and i was in iowa covering nikki haley, and i was at a dinner full of republican
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activist, the kind that will show up at the iowa caucus every four years, and they had nothing to say but good about president trump, and -- again, in the back of their mind, they recognize as well as he did in bringing new voters in the party and winning states like iowa, he won iowa by eight or nine points twice, he still had problems with [ inaudible ], and they are thinking maybe we can put something together with trump's agenda, which they really like, but somebody with a bit more finesse that might allow them to keep the trump voters but claw back some of the traditional
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suburban democrats they lost in 2018 and 2020. >> yeah, and one of the interesting things is seeing trump signs in lawns and i was in ohio and i saw trump signs still in lawns. trump set the bar in many ways and i think there's other politicians who can build on what he has already built, and his wife said flat out, i would like to see another generation -- oh, i have to say thank you to dave. we are going to go live to the briefing. >> i know a lot of people are looking at that with bated breath as we all have been for many, many days. people ask, is there hope? what is going to happen? the way i look at it as an old navy guy, and you are missing until you are found and we don't
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stop the search, and i think that's what is happening. those first responders are breaking their back trying to find anybody they can, and they are going to continue to do that and they have been very selfless, and they put themselves at risk to do it. i thought about that, and then having met this morning with many of the families who -- yeah, this turned upsidedown, the world of a lot of great people, not only in the state but beyond. to hear the stories of the folks who are in the towers who either passed away or are missing, the amount of, i think, sympathy that has been pouring in is emblematic of the lives many of these people have been leading. they have touched people all across the world, not just here in southern florida and not just throughout the whole state of florida, and you know, it has
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been -- it's been very heartbreaking and very touching, because there's a lot of folks who have been experiencing unbelievable pain and the folks that have either passed away or who were missing are almost invariably incredibly special incredibly special people who have made a huge impact on not only this community, but communities all across the country and all across the world, and so those guys are out there breaking their back on that pile and they're digging tunnels and putting themselves in harm's way to try to find a void and an area where they can potentially rescue people. they had that mission and they're not shirking from it because they understand that in every one of those condominium buildings were people whose different families revolved around them, grandmothers, grandkids, brothers and sisters, and i just thank them for all
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their efforts and i thank them for leaving no stone unturned and the families, we're going to be there for the long haul on this and we're not going to look back and we'll be there with any support we can provide. thank you. >> thank you, governor. we'll have lieutenant governor janet nunez speaking spanish. >> good afternoon. i'll reiterate what the governor said in spanish. [ speaking foreign language ] i'll bring back antonia hilton there, and i know you've been talking to families and other loved ones. we're not giving up and we're treating this like a man down in the military and you're missing until we find you and we will keep searching. >> that's right, chris. that quote stuck out for me, too, you're missing until you're
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found from governor desantis. it's interesting until i'm able to speak to more residents in a few minutes to hear about how they're reacting to all of this, because as i've spoken to the community in the last 24, 36 hours there has been privately among many people an effort to start searching for closure or moving forward that their families can grieve. people are losing hope that their family members will be the miracle although for officials who are doing this backbreaking work and sifting through the dangerous rubble in the hopes of finding life that that is the message that they still want out there. that they're 100% focused still on this rescue mission, but there's going to be discrepancies there in the coming days and the point at which the tone shifts or the perspective shifts from officials. i think is going to be unclear right now, but i can tell you when you talk to families and friends that many of them are
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starting to find it painful to hold on to any semblance of hope that they're going to be one of the lucky ones, chris, and i am eager to talk to folks how they're going to process all of this because what i've consistently heard when they come out of the press conferences that they're not getting the amount of information they get and they don't fault first responders and officials for that, they understand how complicated and terrible this has been and you can imagine this is agonizing and people hope that with the press conference, two a day, that they'll know that a family member has been identified and just the pace of this has been so meticulous and so slow and you know, that is just at odds with how excruciating this is for the individuals that you meet here on the scene. >> antonia, thank you. we'll go back to the briefing now. >> throughout the night and throughout the morning, there are currently 210 people working on the mound. the urban search and rescue team
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has been augmented by teams from all over the state and all over the world. they are working throughout inclement weather. they're working as hard as they ever have, but they are able to make headway even in the face of all of those obstacles. so they're continuing with the 12-hour shifts. they take breaks, they're monitored medically and just to make sure that they can get back safely on the mound because it is such painstaking, grueling work. i cannot express enough how grateful we are for their service, their sacrifice, their passion they live to save lives and that is what we are witnessing. their bravery under extremely difficult circumstances, continuing and continuing. we are also so very grateful for
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everyone who has joinedous this effort, global team, state teams on standby for us so we can relieve the wonderful men and women out there. we truly have the best in the world conducting this effort. the federal teams of the usar search and rescue personnel are rotating in with our current teams. there are more than sufficient personnel on site. we do not need additional resources. we have the best and we have sufficient, what we need to get this job done. since our last briefing, no new fatalities have been confirmed, but we have been able to notify each of the 11 families who have lost their loved ones. this is very, very important that the notification has been able to occur and we are
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grateful to our miami-dade police department for their -- their very sensitive handling of this difficult matter and all of the names have been released to the public through our social media platforms. and today, we were also very grateful to learn that our president joe biden will be visiting surfside on thursday. he's going to spend time with the families who are affected and with our first responders. we've had his support since he called me, day one in the morning and this is so critical that we do have our federal support. so we are very, very grateful for that and we know that his support will continue throughout. i also want you to than i've been in close touch with our attorney, kathleen hernandez and i am very supportive of the grand jury she has announced and
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have worked closely with grand juries in the past and i am familiar with the process and i will do and my team will do everything possible to aid them in their efforts to continue that investigation. as i mentioned yesterday our building audit also continues and we are taking swift action to immediately identify and address any outstanding issues with the buildings that have not yet completed their 40-year certification process. that's our priority right now and just last night our building officer notified one of those properties, a building in northeast aid that four balconies must be immediately closed to residents due to safety conditions. so we are proceeding a pace with all of the buildings identified and i know within a matter of days or short weeks we would have addressed all of the safety concerns, and today i am also making an announcement they will be meeting with subject area
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experts from multiple relevant fields from engineering to legal to construction to development, to soil to geology to look closely at every possible angle on this issue related to building safety. so we -- they will advise me on issues related to building construction, chain of custody and requirements for reporting, condominium regulation and more so that my staff and i can develop a set of recommendations for changes that need to be made at all steps in the building process to ensure a tragedy like this will never, ever happen again, and i will be meeting with these experts in the very near future, and i will be planning to look for additional, perts who can advise me once further insights are achieved from this investigation. so we'll continue to pull in additional experts as new information becomes available to ensure that we're considering
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all possible angles, all possible factors and perspectives. for the families who have been impacted by this tragedy, we are continuing to do all that we can to support them in any way that they need. so our new expanded family assistance center has over 20 agencies now offering support, short and long-term counseling, home assistance, travel assistance, psychological and grief counseling, financial assistance, vase and passport support and much more and additional legal support and we will continue to offer our twice-daily briefings to the families and we've just completed our morning session before this conference. these sessions have been vital to assisting families to understand the nature of the search, the nature of the entire enterprise and this is so, so important as we proceed daily on our search and rescue efforts to
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have them fully aware of every step of the process. so, please, i know you join with me in your prayers, your wishes, your hopes during this incredibly difficult time for our families. [ speaking foreign language ] and good day. this is andrea mitchell reports in washington as rescue crews continue the race against time in a desperate search for any survivors, six days after that horrific tower disaster in surfside, florida, as new information comes to light that the condo board president warned for the need of repairs months before the collapse even though resident his previously been told the building was not in bad shape. as we continue to monitor this briefing, officials say 11 victims have been recovered. none since yesterday. 150 people are still unaccounted for, giving families some small hope for a
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