the bill. the 120 no votes against the bill were all from republicans in his caucus. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night with our thanks for being here with us on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. so, he had been a slave. he was enslaved to a white man named jam john emmerson in missouri. during the time that emerson called this man a slave, he moved several times, including moving out of missouri. he moved to the wisconsin territory. he moved to the state of illinois. both of which were not slave territories or states, both of which were free. that created an unusual situation. a white man, in the african american man he has enslaved. they start in missouri, they

travel to and live in free territory for a time, then ultimately they move back to slave state missouri. all right. when white men died, the african american man who had been enslaved to him, he tried to buy his own freedom from the dead man's family, from the dead men's widow. the family refused to allow him to buy his freedom. the enslaved man then decided that he would sue for his freedom, he would turn to the courts, and the basis for him suing for his freedom was that time in the free territory of risk consonant the free state of illinois. if an enslaved person was moved into free territory, into a free state, they are freed from enslavement. that is something that cannot be reversed, even if you go back to missouri. once free, always free. so, he sued on that basis in 1846.

it took forever, but finally, 13 years later, in 1859, the case was the subject of a ruling in the united states supreme court. it was a decision that hands down, no argument, is considered to this day to be the worst united states supreme court decision of all-time. part of that was its form. it was sloppy. it was flagrantly wrong on the facts, history, the law. it was poorly reasoned. it's logic was a broken pretzel. the chief justice who wrote that supreme court opinion, apparently one of the outcome that he wanted, and he got it. that supreme court justices remember today for basically nothing else, other than that terrible decision. the worst decision ever handed down by the united states supreme court. because the enslaved man who sued for his freedom, in the

case that led to that terrible ruling, was a man named scott dred scott. in his ruling in the dred -- dred scott case, he said not only was he not and title to be free, he ruled that mr. scott did not have standing to even sue for his freedom because, as an african american, he was not a citizen of the united states. he could not be. no african american in this ruling, how courting to judge roger taney, no african american was a citizen of the united states, or ever could be a citizen in the united states because of their race. none of the protections and benefits and shrine in the constitution extended to black people nor would they ever. the constitution was not for them in afforded them no rights and protection. for good measure, judge taney

also went on to say, the moon -- missouri compromise that established slavery in the first place, it was unconstitutional as. well insisting from the united states supreme court, that slavery could persist anywhere in the united states, and congress could have nothing to say about that. americans of african descent were not citizens of the united states in the never could be and the constitution did not apply to them. dred scott. the worst thing the united states supreme court has ever done. the worst ruling. both in substance, and inform. and of course, in effect. the dred scott decision nearly destroyed the country when it led to the civil war a few years after. the worst supreme decision ever. ruling in the dred scott case again, that was chief justice

roger taney. and this is chief justice roger taney. this exact -- exact bust of him sits in the united states capitol today. from 1810 to 1860, the united states supreme court held its sessions at the u.s. capital. they didn't have their own separate supreme court like they did now. they sat in what's now called the old supreme court chamber on the first floor of the u.s. capital. the architect of the capital says, since they moved out of there in 1860, that big room has been used as a library, as a committee, room it was used for storage -- for a while before they resorted to look now like it did in the 1800s when the supreme court sat there. the way you get into that chamber, you go through a robbing room. it's a funny word, but that still a thing. judges have to put on their robe somewhere. it's a robbing room. and this one particular robbing

room, in the united states capitol with mark -- which marks the entrance to this former chamber of the u.s. supreme court that was inside the u.s. capital, in the robbing room there there is a marble bust of just one person, roger taney. the man who read wrote -- the dred scott decision and saying black people were inherently by their race we are not citizens and had no constitution. it's just him in that room. it's not like the rubbing room is a hall of chief jeff's -- chief justices or something, it's just him. it's roger teeny, alone. looming over that entrance at the u.s. capital, as of right now. or, how about not? how about we change that? tonight, the house of representatives voted to not do that anymore. to swap him out. to take down from that place of honor, in the u.s. capital, the justice who read the worst

court ruling of all-time. instead, and -- replace him with another court justice who didn't do that. how about justice thurgood marshall, for example. might he work in that spot instead? you know, the house actually passed a bill to take down the roger taney bust last summer. passed in the democratic-controlled house last july, but it never went anywhere. republicans senate mitch mcconnell blocked it. they never took it. up so taney still sits there outside the old supreme court chamber in the u.s. capital. now, the democrats are in control of the senate. it's not mitch mcconnell there anymore, it's chuck schumer who's the majority leader in the senate. now the democrats control in the house and senate, maybe old roger taney will probably now get some downtime. maybe we will stop that ongoing honor at the united states capitol for him. see if somebody else might get a turn in that place of honor. the vote tonight, in the house,

for the second time in two years they've taken this vote. the vote tonight in the house to take down the roger taney bus that's on display in the u.s. capital was 285 to 129 120 members, republican members of the house voting no. to keep him up there. dred scott guy. speaking of the idea of the confederate flag inside the u.s. capital, tonight we learned that republicans in the house are moving the vote. telling the members in the house to vote no on the creation of a select committee to investigate the attack on u.s. capital on january. 60 attack where, supporters of former president trump violently attacked the u.s. capitol in an effort to try to stop the certification of the presidential election that trump had just lost. yes, that attack did include brooding the confederate flag through the halls.

republicans initially negotiated a plan for a truly bipartisan, baby sickly a nonpartisan expert independent attack and what led to it. the republican leadership in the house and senate then turned against that negotiated proposal, even though their own side had negotiated with the democrats. the delegate of republicans worked on coming up with a nonpartisan, or bipartisan vote for it they did. it was successful. then republican leadership said no, don't vote for it anyway. republicans voted no on a nonpartisan expert commission, even though they have come up with the idea that the filibuster in the senate. in lieu of that, now democrats have proposed instead a select committee that will include members of congress from both parties with a dedicated staff, subpoena power to go with the conviction of evidence. we learn that room publican want to vote against that as

well. it's literally their own place that was attacked by a mob, shouting that they wanted to hunt down and hang the vice president from their own party. republicans do not want to look into. it they will not vote for any inquiry, even nonpartisan, bipartisan, select inquiry. what happened, there they don't hear it. i love the beltway press. they still maintain that republicans are going to come along and vote and save benefit can numbers for joe biden's infrastructure bill. or bipartisan police reform efforts. or anything that the democrats and joe biden want to do. they were not instigate a crime committed against themselves, not that the democrats wanted. republicans are not interested in doing things with the democrats, big stuff, small stuff, they don't want it. president biden was in lacrosse

wisconsin tonight. talking about his infrastructure plans. talking about how his plans would be the biggest in u.s. infrastructure since the fdr era, which is true. it's true whether democrats are going to have to pass that alone, or with any republican support, that will be true. but this is just one in those things, when the past just looms, right? even as everybody is trying to move forward in their own way, the past sticks to us. e sometimes as a benchmark. the biggest investment we made since fdr, since the new deal. sometimes the past comes with us on days like this and in poetic ways. the moment when roger taney's bust gets taken down from the u.s. capital be replaced more carefully with a new bust. the attorney who argued the unanimous supreme court case that struck down separate but equal racially segregated cools

-- schools in our country. when his bus goes up in that place just as carefully taney's will come down. thurgood marshall went on to be a justice on that. when that switch happens in that roving room, that will be something when that happens, right? no matter who tried to stop. at no matter how many dozens of house republicans tried to head it off and voted against it. no matter how wrong the senate republicans were able to pull it off. that will be something when it happens. but the past is with us in today's news, in pettier and more destructive ways as well. we will remember mark sanford? he is a moderate republican senator with his own freighted history, right? in sanford you remember he is the governor of california, he went missing. his office initially tried to cover up the fact that no one knew where he was. he then tried to get away with a cover story that he was, surprise, off on his own on a

sudden not pronounce trip to go hike the appalachian trails, solo. he was not hiking the appalachian trail as you recall. he was in his -- with his mistrust in argentina. after mark sanford completed his term as governor of south carolina with that bizarre scandal following him every last day he was in office, nevertheless, the good people of south carolina saw fit to elect him to congress after he finished his term as governor. conthey elected him as governon 2015, he served his term, all was forgiven. all was, until he fell it would then president donald trump. he started be critical of donald trump. so, in 2018, three years ago, summer of 2018, mark sanford was running for reelection to that seat in congress, but he had made an enemy of then president donald trump. trump jumped into that south carolina congressional race, and endorsed against mark sanford, who endorsed a woman

who was running against mark sanford in the republican primary. at the time, this is what trump said. -- said -- he is mia, nothing but trouble. i fully endorse katie arrington. vote katie. in fact, katie arrington on the strength of that trump endorsement in the republican primary in the house carolina race on the criticism that mark sanford was not republican enough, she ousted him in the republican primary. the headlines were brutal. sanford loses in stunner. mark sanford survived the appalachian trail. he couldn't beat trump.

he was satisfied with that. until the actual general election was held for that congressional seat the general election that which is the primary,? right eneral he started to the general election in november and even though this was a seat in south carolina, trump's endorsed candidate lost. katy arrington had beaten mark sanford in the primary to become the republican nominee for the seat, but then it was a democrat named joe cunningham who actually won in november. so mark sanford was ousted from congress, but the republicans lost the seat. and what became of katy arrington? interesting. the post and courier in south carolina later reported that after that election in november, where the republicans lost the seats, right? the democrat who won the election won that seat in congress. he left south carolina to travel to washington to go start his new job. on the same day that katie arrington did too.

she just lost the election, why is she going to washington? she wouldn't tell the post and courier at the time why she too was going to washington after she just lost the election to that democrat she told the post and courier that she was going to see some groups of people and would not further elaborate but but by the end of that year she had somewhat inexplicably found herself serving in the trump administration in a high ranking job at the pentagon. she got the trump nod to mark sanford from senator -- but that you got the next nod to become a senior security executive at the pentagon by trump. right away. right after the election. that's how things went. and we know very little about her tenure at the pentagon since that time but today, bloomberg was the first to report that this still quite cryptic news, you see the headline there, top pentagon cyber official probed over disclosure concerns.

there is the lead, the official husband placed on leave in connection with the suspected unauthorized disclosure of classified information from the military intelligence agency. according to an official document. katy arrington, chief information security officer for the pentagon's acquisition and sustain office was informed last month that her security clearance for access to classified information is being suspended, quote, as a result of a reported unauthorized disclosure of classified information and subsequent removal of access by the national security agency. according to a memo made available to bloomberg news. now, we really do not know with this is about. she has herself a high-end whistleblower lawyer who said today that she's being deprived of procedural and substantive due process and that the national security administration, the nsa has yet to explain their concerns that have led to her having her security clearance suspended and her being put on leave.

but tell me more. and this could very well have nothing to do with the very weird politics of how katy arrington got to washington in the first place and how she got into a higher ranking pentagon position in the middle of the trump administration after her odd political back story there. right? we don't know. they have nothing to do with the weird political way that she got that high ranking pentagon job. we have nothing to do with the fact that to security clearances mrs. fended and she's been put on leave from that job amid allegations that she disclosed classified information. we don't know with this is about. but the fact of the trump administration actually did staff up so many of the most important agencies in government in such weird political ways looms. like every day. [laughs] it is an underappreciated part of the challenge of standing up and continuing the work of those important agencies in the post trump era now that joe

biden is president. i mean, just take the justice department. we've reported extensively on the proverbial hazmat suits that justice department officials now need to put on before they walk into maine justice headquarters in washington. right? ? they're trying to do the forward-looking work of the justice department under new leadership right? but they have to do it amid the toxic mess left behind by the previous administration, including a bunch of stuff that feels like it should be potentially examined and potentially serious ways. i mean, there was lots of attention in the news yesterday to an interview, former attorney general bill barr did with abc's jonathan carl. they published an atlantic magazine that includes extensive interviews based apparently on interviews with bill barr and the excerpt published yesterday that barr basically explains his decision to publicly admit after the election that it didn't look like there was enough fraud in

the presidential election to have changed the outcome. barr in fact said that to the ap reporter at the end of the election in the johnson caught reporting, we've got lots more details on how mad trump was that barr had done that. we get more detail about how that ultimately led to barr's resignation. later on around christmas time, before the inauguration. lots of news there. lots of consternation about that. those less attention to the fact that in this excerpt from jonathan carles book, he also documents that in fact, after the election when he was attorney general bill barr did contact at least one u.s. attorney in michigan. in pursuit of one of trump's made of conspiracy theories about how the election was conducted one of these conspiracy theories that there were some mysterious vote dobbs in michigan that were not real votes and that explains why it looks like biden won even though really trump did. as attorney general of the

united states william barr did not just listen to trump say that stuff and absorb it and do nothing with it, he in fact employed the researchers at the justice department. he contacted a u.s. attorney in michigan with that trash. as attorney general he did that. barr's successor as attorney general and after he left boston's deputy richard donahue contacted u.s. attorneys in michigan and in pennsylvania and in georgia, with more of that trash from the trump white house. the justice department did not just get pressured and berated by trump trying to get them to support his bogus fraud claims and get him to overturn the election. we now know that to successive attorney generals actually did shovel that stuff to u.s. attorneys to try to get the u.s. attorneys to deal with it. that is wrong and they're not supposed to do that.

if you're at the justice department now obviously you want to move forward with merrick garland's agenda and the biden administration's agenda but you can't just move for pretending all of that didn't just happen in the justice department and you can't assume that will never happen again if it happened there once it never got investigated and never got chased down and never had any consequences that needs to be fixed. and that is true over the government right now, after we just went through with the previous administration. we even having a much lower profile agency. take the agriculture department, there are stuff that needs cleaning up and in some estimations this may need cleaning up potentially with the help with the fbi. this is just a rocket of a story today in the washington post from a reporter named desmond butler who we are going to speak to in just a moment here's the lead. quote, it was a curious time for sunny purdue to close a real estate deal. in february 2017, weeks after donald trump's selected him to

be agriculture secretary -- south carolina from one of the biggest agricultural corporations in america. had anyone noticed, it would've prompted questions ahead of his confirmation. but mr. perdue, the former governor of georgia, did not disclose the deal. there was no legal requirement for him to do so. an examination of public records by the washington post has found that the agricultural company in question, archer-daniels-midland sold atlanta purdue at a small fraction of his estimated value just as the company stood to benefit from a friendly secretary of agriculture. during trump's campaign, sonny perdue wasn't adviser to trump. after trump won, there was lots of public trader about what's job sonny perdue might get and the administration. it wasn't hard to narrow down the most likely choice. he was in the business of agriculture himself. secretary of agriculture seemed like a good bet. purdue spoke to the press in early december about how he was talking to trump about his

skills and where he would might be a good fit. it wasn't exactly mystery that he was going to end up there. a couple of years before all this, before he was in line for the agriculture secretary decision, archer-daniels-midland had in fact started talking with perdue's company about selling this parcel of land. they bought it in 2024 about five and a half million dollars. when they went to him about it in 2015, they asked his company if they wanted to buy it for $4 million. that was 2015. but after trump won, as purdue was about to become secretary of agriculture, they decided to sell it to him not for the formal million dollars that he had already asked him for, they decided to sell it to him for $250,000. which desmond butler points out was 5% of the price the company had paid for it not a year before, was 16 times what's

purdue's firm was asked to pay for just two years earlier. that's doesn't puzzlers piece, quote, the timing of the sale just as purdue was about to become the most powerful man and u.s. agriculture raises legal and ethical concerns. from the narrow question of whether the secretary followed federal financial disclosure requirements to whether the transaction could've been and temps to influence a government official in violation of bribery stature's. prompt federal prosecutor tells the quote, this thanks to high heaven. quote, it deserves a prosecutors attention. only prosecutor with the powers of the grand jury can find out in facts whether there was a quid pro quo that existed at the time of the deal. the former head of the office of government ethics tells, quote, this may be a matter for the fbi to investigate, frankly. sonny perdue ultimately sold off the company that got the sweet deal on that property. it's not clear how much money he and his family had made off

of the sale after getting such a spectacular deal on it just as he was joining the cabinet. and of course, sonny perdue did make a number of decisions that were very favorable to the interests of the company that gave him the sweet deal. very favorable to the family of archer-daniels-midland. from decisions to meat processing plants to a tax credit that appears to put hundreds of millions of dollars in archer-daniels-midland's pockets. i mean, he might absolutely have done those things anyway without his private business dealing with archer-daniels-midland. archer-daniels-midland insist they got no special treatment from perdue during the trump administration. they said they didn't give his company a deal on the sale at all even though they previously asked him for $4 million for the parcel and then sold it to him for a quarter of $1 million. but the past looms here.

and if you are the new administration coming in after something like this, with stuff like this and all the agencies, you can't just let it lie in history, right? you have to clean this up. you at least have to investigate it, don't you? joining us now is desmond butler investigative reporter of the washington post. mr. butler, thank you so much for joining us tonight appreciate you being here. >> thanks so much for having me. >> let me ask you if i mischaracterized any of your reporting there or if i missed out on anything that's key to the plot here. >> now you've got it exactly right, rachel. >> did sonny perdue have any response to these very serious allegations? serious implications at least, here? did he or any of his representatives give you anything in response to this reporting? >> you know, i tried to reach him every which way. i called his businesses, i sent a letter to his home, i tried

former spokesman and never got any response from him whatsoever. i did get a former a names spokesperson to talk about part of this but he was pretty elusive. >> now, archer-daniels-midland says this was not a sweet deal. this was not some special deal for purdue on his way to becoming a trump cabinet secretary who's gonna be in a position to do nice things for that company. they say, first of all, they don't get any special favors from him and second of all it wasn't that great a deal. they just got this isn't underperforming asset. essentially implying that that 250,000 dollar price was market right. one of the things i found very interesting is that you did quite a bit of like work to figure out what this sale might have been priced at a fair market value. you had, you spoke with both the county tax assessor's

office and they did a multi million dollar assessment of that property. we also got an independent assessor to look at it, is that right? >> right, that's right. we had a professional appraiser look at it and his estimation came out at about five point $7 million. we've got a second appraiser to review that they can turn occurred. >> so if it was a property that is independently appraised at five point $7 million and perdue somehow landed it for $250, 000, i understand there's complicated issues around disclosure here. him on his way to an official once he was an official. but the prospect that this might have been a bribe, that this might have been a big company who stood to benefit from his favor doing him a big financial favor. who would investigate something like that? i mean on its surface there is a lot that looks questionable

here. what's the proper venue for this to be investigated? well, there's a lot of possibilities. it could be congress, it could be the inspector general at usda. or could be the justice department. >> desmond butler, investigative reporter at the washington post. mr. butler, this piece is a remarkable window into what happened here. head raises all sorts of interesting questions. i want to thank you and pretty good year by laying it out so easily to put this together visually and make it what's otherwise very difficult. you made it a clear story. thank you can congratulations on this work. >> thank you so much, rachel. >> much more news to get to tonight, stay with us. ght, stay with us. from the world's number 1 selling nerve care company. as we age, natural changes to our nerves occur which can lead to occasional discomfort. nervive contains b complex vitamins

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he was in congress for not good reasons. steve king became a famous member of congress because of how frequently here earned negative headlines for hayes increasingly blatant flirtations with really out their stuff on race and white nationalism. i mean that specifically. steve king would talk about birth rates and certain populations not having enough babies, and birth control turning america into a quote dying civilization because according to steve king white people have contributed more to civilization than anyone else. where are these contributions made by these other categories of people? where did other sub group of people contribute more to civilization? we need more white babies for white civilization, right? okay. steve king may -- met with politicians from europe and said things like cultural suicide by demographic

transformation must end. he said quote, we can't restore our civilization with somebody else is babies. he wondered aloud to the new york times quote, white nationalists, white supremacists, western civilization. how did that language become offensive? yes, how did white supremacist become offensive language? when did that happen? then you are interview was a couple years ago. now at that, point the republican party decided that stephen king was two out there for them. congressman mccarthy said they were no strip steve king of his committee. within the republican caucus of the house where steve king could sit around and twiddle his thumbs and take votes on the stuff once things got to the floor. he couldn't do any of the business that a member of congress was supposed to do. of thin that exile, that move e republican party to seal off steve king and a kind of

quarantine of crazy, that made steve king ineffective enough and unpalatable enough to his constituents at home in iowa, then he lost a seat. he lost a seat in a republican primary, last year, after spending almost 18 years in congress. and, you know, time has borne out the way somewhat republicans decided to do with steve king. since he lost his seat in congress, he sort have regularly pops up at overt white nationalist events, like this one, earlier this, year which was hosted by a guy who is an advocate for a white homeland. as in a country exclusively for white people. i will give you what country as to what that should be? the problem here, for republicans, while now former congressman steve king is there, at the white nationalist conference, as a living in body man of the party sort of, you know, showing its ability to cope with and exercise your

members who have this particular problem, look. at that say the -- same event, the same nationalist hello white nationalist event, steve king was alongside a serving member of congress. steve king spoke at that event, yes. the white homeland event. so did republican congressman paul ghosts are. he gave the keynote hosted by the white homeland. guide now, it appears like that wasn't a fluke. according to this invitation that went out on a right wing social media channel, paul closer to in some kind of fund-raiser on friday with the turn america into a white homeland guy. the event claims to be from paul go sars campaign, it's got a link to beth paul gosar will not get any money if you go to that. link the congressman event via

tweet, not sure why anybody is freaking out. that said, when asked about it today, congress and go so told people i have no idea what's going. i know fund-raiser scheduled for friday. it's a weird response whether your whole thing or fund-raiser where the white nationalist. not like, i wouldn't hold the fund-raiser for a white nationalist? i'm not a white nationalist, why would you associate me with. that actually i don't see anything like that on my calendar. does that mean is not on his calendar for friday? does that mean it's scheduled for a different day? paul gosar is not being's good -- talked about coy about this. we know from the steve king -- this republican party, kevin mccarthy is still the republican leader of the house. they can effectively kick up people that have this problem that manifests in this particular way. this proble thatin the case of paul goes ar, they appear to have lost the will. we have more on that in a moment. stick with us. stick with us.

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for the arizona republic newspaper. i want to show you the title of her laced his column today and it's about republican congressman paul costar and a new indication that he's planned a fund-raiser at the end of this week with a white nationalist, with a far-right activists who advocates for the creation of a whites only homeland. the recent column is called paul gosar is going full on white nationalist and the gop silence is not surprising. lori roberts joins us right now from arizona. thank you i appreciate your time for being here. >> hi, good to see you. >> i feel like a lot of us looking in from the outside at this phenomenon and what's going on to arizona right now is two things. one is the audit, the so-called audit of the presidential election results which seems to be having a sort of certainly

making national waves. there's some interesting polling out today which suggests that voters in arizona made themselves quite turned off by that. but then there's also this emerging story about congressman goes far and we have a direct parallel and republican congressman steve king who is effectively drummed out for stuff like this. yet congressman gosar has yet to face any consequences for this stuff at all. from your perspective in arizona, do you have an explanation for those of us in a national audience as to how these things fit together and how they're gonna work out? >> this is arizona. it's very difficult to say. congressman gosar is from our most conservative district in this state but he flies under the radar a lot because he's from a rural area and he doesn't really have a whole lot of power in congress and we've had to ignore him for a while. but i think it's been increasingly difficult.

first, he as you said the keynote speaker is the only sitting member of congress to do so and then he tries to form an american first caucus group representative marjorie taylor greene which he backed off of once he found out it's gonna be about saving one anglo-saxon at a time. now we have a fund-raiser which he's saying isn't true, isn't happening. but -- certainly thinks it is. he was on his podcast or livestream, whatever it is last night saying it will be on friday as a part of his white boy summer tour. and as you mentioned how to donate to costar's campaign and were known by the company you keep. >> the arizona audit that we've been covering from a national suppression steve it's

interesting to see this new polling that was released today. it was written up at politico .com showing that among arizona voters broadly, a politician supporting that audit actually loses their chance of being elected or reelected. i think it was by an 11 point margin. arizona voters would be less likely to vote for a politician who is in support of that audit that they would be for somebody who is not supported by audit. i have to wonder if that is going to have a sobering effect at all. if that is going to be -- >> no. >> no. >> because if you are a republican running for office in this day, you must support the audit. you must support donald trump and if you go, you're not going to get out of a republican primary. the fact that you're not going to win a general doesn't seem to matter to these people, whether they're in denial or it just doesn't matter the money keeps coming in and the red meat keeps going out.

they're all becoming more well-known. kelly ward, our own state republican chairwoman is now a national figure. they're all getting something out of it but i think there's going to be a huge blow back with the republican party. a huge reckoning coming in 2022. >> laurie roberts, columnist for the arizona republic thank you for your time and perspective on this tonight. i think we're all very much dependent on you another close observers of these phenomenon in arizona to make sense of them at the national level. i'm grateful for your time. >> thank you. >> all right, we'll be right back. stay with us. ay with us because with the right pain reliever... life opens up. aleve it, and see what's possible.

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1857. i actually thought i said 57, and we had 1857 up on the screen, but apparently when i squeezed the words out of my big dumb face, i said 1850, nine on 1857, which, i don't even know how that happened. i apologize for the inexplicable error. i hope you will forgive me. i will endeavor to do better when you see me again tomorrow night. now, it's time for the last word with slack or -- lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> you really screwed me up for this hour. i'm sure some point i am going to say 1859 in this hour, about something. i don't know why, but it will just come out, because that's the kind of mistake that i fear so desperately all the time. it is kind of magical how you can actually magically have the correct thing right in front of you and and says seven but it comes out and nine on live tv. apparently, live tv burns brain cells at a higher lid than possibly any other huma