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plus as we come on the air the urgent calls for more help in florida with new concerns about storms on the horizon. the latest on what we know about the victims so far, with new information just released from the county in the last hour, and growing evidence about the warning signs fueling multiple lawsuits, and a top prosecutor's pledge to open a grand jury inquiry. >> reporter: did you ever see any warning signs that something could have gone wrong. >> every day. plus with the trump organization bracing to be hit with criminal charges someone whose documents are in the hands of the d.a., allen weisselberg's former daughter-in-law on what she expects and whether she will testify if asked. we have a big show coming up in the next 60 minutes. we begin in washington, looking at the news conference where we expect to hear from house speaker nancy pelosi expected to establish at some point today a vote that would create that january 6th select

committee. our team will try to get questions in to her. a quick refresher on expectations for what this committee would look like. it's a lot of question marks. the legislation calls for 13 members, five in consultation with the minority leader. democrats can pass the bill on party lines. the suspense today is not really in the vote itself. it's who would be on this committee, who would share it and serve on it. what is the specific strategy for selecting republicans? i want to start with democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois on the intelligence committee. glad to have you on a day where focus is on the hill. >> good morning, thanks, hallie >> give us a sense of your expectations for potential republican support for this bill and the implications if in fact as expected there is little to none. >> i think that's a safe assumption given the fact that the vast majority myself colleagues voted to try to

overthrow an unlawful election. a defense supplemental keep us safe against a commission to find out exactly what took place january 6th so i have no expectations of any republican support on this measure. >> do you think anybody who voted as we talk about who should be on this committee, do you think anybody who voted against certifying the election or objected to it would be a nonstarter to serve? >> i agree. this is a serious investigation, our capitol was taken over for the first time since 1814. this is not a side show or a circus. there are some republicans who voted for the commission, some voted to affirm a lawful election, a very few voted for impeachment. i think there's a few out there serious minded and i think those are the only ones who should be considered. >> that is as you say smaller

pool than the republican conference as a whole to select from there. to your point, one of your colleagues alexandria ocasio-cortez told politico "the issue is that there are indications some of these folks were in on it and we can't have folks who were in on it in the investigation." given what she is saying and what you said on the show, do you think speaker pelosi should use her power to reject any gop picks she is not comfortable with and what would that do for the image of a fair investigation? >> if the republicans were concerned about a fair investigation, they would have supported a commission, we look back at the 9/11 commission which was viewed widely as very fair and nonpartisan and very important and effective. so i think the speaker has bent over backwards to be fair offering a 50/50 split and consultation with the minority

people to put people on this. they have to begin to take this seriously. i think it's important to have republican representation but they have to be serious and fair minded. the bipartisan commission failed feels like the nail is in the coffin. why are they hiring an outside investigator for the doj appointing a special prosecutor in your view? >> there should be some combination. we know the justice is investigating this to investigate those who committed crimes. i think congress needs to play a role. as we say, i was in the room where it happened and we have a right to know and congress has its own investigation as we move forward. you've seen great work done by congress in the past and you look at the work on the investigations of president trump. you saw the great work of people

like mr. raskin and mr. schiff. i think congress can take this on effectively. >> to your knowledge, does speaker pelosi and mccarthy asked lawmakers whether they'd serve on the committee. have you been asked. >> to my knowledge, she hasn't spoken about this. she keeps her own counsel on all these things. i was honored to serve on the intel committee as we investigated the russian attack on our democratic system as well as the first impeachment investigation, and i'd be honored to serve here. again, it is a very deep bench. she has a lot of talent to pick from and i'm confident there will be an excellent team to find out exactly what took place. >> has the speaker made her pick for who should share this committee? >> not that i'm aware of. >> what is your expectation for how long this could or should last. you look at the histories of select committees in the past talking years not months.

do you ownership this would be any different? >> it just depends on the level of cooperation. it could take a considerable period of time in my mind it should take up to a year. >> congressman quigley we appreciate your time and being with us this morning as we cover the latest on this vote set to happen today. we want to get you to the latest out of florida, because we are going to get an update from officials on the search and rescue next hour. 12 people have been killed in the condo building collapse. officials are making public new details about the victims, what can you tell us? >> we understand she is a 92-year-old woman named noriega,

and catherine noriega, mother of a nearby police chief in a town nearby which gives you a sense of the community here how it's affected, so many people are close to someone involved in all this. there is a line of first responders part of the rescue operation. at the front of the line there are chaplains and towards the back of the line there are police officers, others doing all kinds of jobs here, at any moment hundreds of people here and hundreds on that pile trying to find remains. there are some reports there may have been more remains found overnight. we'll pin that down when the briefing happens in about an hour or so. there are 12 confirmed dead and 149 who are unaccounted for, and the question everyone has now is how long can this go as a rescue operation before it becomes something else. here is what the mayor of

surfside said about how long he thinks people can survive there. >> one woman in bang lawestern was pulled -- bangladesh was pulled crying out after 17 days. we're not losing hope. we're not slowing down. we're not giving up. we're going to pull everybody out of that rubble and we're hoping and praying for some miracles. >> reporter: they say they're not short of resources. they're short of luck is the way one public official put it the other day. the effort continues. they are using every technique available, drones, sonar, imaging equipment, as well as their bare hands and small buckets to try to move this incredible mountain of debris that still has these people trapped underneath it. again, this is just going to go on. there's a lot of anticipation tomorrow visit of president biden coming.

he's expected we understand to spend quite a bit of time here with the families, with the first responders because of the magnitude of what's happened here and because of the universality of it, the entire country is feeling the pain that this community is. hallie? >> ahead of president biden's visit to the scene where you are tomorrow. ron allen, thank you for your reporting. we'll have more in the show. come up next, prous cuters in new york could bring an indictment any day against the trump administration. we're live with the former daughter-in-law who might be charged, why she's ready to testify to a grand jury and former president trump heading to the border today, his former acting dhs secretary, chad wolf joining him and us to talk about why now. first, multiple northeast states declaring a state of emergency as the heat wave peaks across 11 states. tens of millions of people right now are under heat advisories, and excessive heat warnings with

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we have breaking news coming out in the last few minutes from the "wall street journal" reporting that the manhattan district attorney and his office is expected to charge the trump organization and its cfo, allen weisselberg, tomorrow, citing people familiar with the matter. the charges focus on tax related crimes and donald trump the former president himself is not expected to be charged in this batch. nbc news has not yet confirmed this report but it does sync

with what we heard several days ago charges could come in as early as this week. allen weisselberg's former daughter-in-law, jennifer weisselberg. thank you for being on the show. good morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> we know that you have provided some documents to the district attorney's office. so let me start here, miss weisselberg, laying out if we can in a lightning round and talk more in a second. here to lay out some of the facts of the matter here. first, have you testified in front of a grand jury in this case? >> i'm not even going to comment at that at this moment. >> you have been asked to testify? >> we've been prepping and i've been meeting with the district attorney in the last two weeks. the specifics -- >> the specifics you'll keep that to yourself for the moment? >> yes. i was asked to keep them to myself because we really want to

succeed. >> when you say you have been prepping, what does that mean? what does that look like? >> we've been going through questions pertaining to compensation perks and taxes just to review how to i guess to inform a grand jury. it's very complicated how it works. i met with them. i've been meeting with them. they've been terrific but i shouldn't say more than that, and it will come to light. >> let me ask it this way. if you were asked, if you were at some point asked to testify, is that something that you would be willing to do? >> yes, absolutely. i am ready. i'm prepared and that's what we're preparing to do. my documents at this time are witnesses themselves, they are being used, and they're being walked through the grand jury panel. >> you said that you've been having conversations with the da's office. has the pace of the conversations picked up in say the last couple weeks? in other words have you seen anything personally to suggest

to you charges could be imminent here? >> yes, subpoenas have been gotten, things like they're wrapping things up. there's been conversations with my lawyer and things are moving at a faster pace. >> i have to interrupt here, jen, because we are getting confirmation here from our team at nbc news that two representatives of the trump organization and i'm reading this to our viewers and to you, miss weisselberg at the same time, the two reps of the trump organization tell nbc news they've been told to expect charges to be filed against the trump organization as soon as tomorrow afternoon. law enforcement officials are not confirming the timing of the charges and nbc news is not reporting if it's clear allen weisselberg will be charged tomorrow. that is the latest coming in as we're on the air with you from our team at nbc news.

charges expected tomorrow according to trump representatives and not based on our reporting mr. allen weisselberg will be charged. you know allen obviously. you have provided documents in this instance and in this case. there have been no indications based on our reporting that he is cooperating with the da's office. have you seen or heard anything that might contradict that? what is your sense on his front moving forward. >> it's unbelievable breaking news. in terms of flipping, i've been doing a lot of think being it and i think on his own taxes, he left himself in trouble but not the same trouble. the trump organization and to lead the grand jury through those documents would then incriminate his own sons and problematic for reasons that

lead not into issues cash but possibly into issues that were going on in the white house that we can talk about it at another time. the trump org is really at the core of where he has to be honest and where there's a lot of criminal liability. >> do you think allen allen weisselberg is not cooperating because he's trying to protect his family and sons as well as former president donald trump? >> not exactly. i think they're already in trouble. i think he's not cooperating. when somebody doesn't cooperate it's because the other person might have a lot of leverage on you and that is a reason why you are afraid to flip. >> who do you think has leverage on him and what do you think that leverage entails? >> i think it's donald. >> what is the leverage?

>> issues with the presidential inaugural committee. >> you can tell us anything more about that? >> it seems like it bleeds into the trump organization and there were some things going on after donald was already president when they were capitalizing on making money for themselves. it looks like in depositions allen weisselberg was involved along with the cfo and the white house to orchestrate that money and one of the organizations that stole the money looks like it was the trump rg and i just have to tell the truth, i'm serious. >> do you think this goes beyond the apartments and cars, those benefits. do you believe this goes deeper than that, base odd your

knowledge as somebody a part of that family for year up until your divorce in 2018? >> great question. it's beginning with the taxes and i think those are finite. it's a great way to show how the company tries to use tax strategies to benefit themselves, loans or insurance in any way to benefit themselves, that's the goal. it goes way deeper into the loans and they've done a really, working hard for years and i think it's way more than the taxes. >> we've been juggling this breaking news that is quite literally to the last five minutes. allen weisselberg and his attorneys have not commented on the investigation or these impending chargers. i need to be clear with our viewers and that front and perspective. regarding the charges we do expect from reps from the trump organization to be brought

tomorrow the first criminal charges as you know brought under the manhattan d.a.'s investigation. >> my response is accountability. everyone in this country is looking for accountability on a federal or state level and i'm very happy there's finally accountability and justice. it matters and it could change the direction of the country if we start doing the right thing, telling the truth. >> can i ask you while i have you, donald trump's former body guard mathy calamari has come up. has his name come up in any of your discussions, have you been asked about any of that in your discussions with the d.a.'s office? >> absolutely. this is a family affair. all of them, yes, that has come out. matt calamari and the weisselbergs are kind of at a war for trump's affection.

matt and his brother mike run operations on construction and yes, his name has come up. >> i want to be clear our reporting indicates as of right now the "wall street journal's" reporting i should say as we said at the top of this discussion indicates as of right now the former president himself donald trump is not expected to be charged based on people familiar with that discussion to the journal. i wonder based on what you have provided to the manhattan da's office and based on the conversation you've had do you believe the former president himself holds any liability here? >> absolutely. i believe we'll get the indictment. >> against him? yes. >> what makes you say that? what makes you confident about that? >> out of the statute of limitations i'm not a lawyer. tax experts have said that whether it's your organization

or whether it's your personal name on it, if you're taking deductions on compensational loan, personally to save money on payroll taxes to get people on the 401(k)s, skimp them on their disability and you're aware of it and maneuvering it, i think that if it's your company and maybe i'm wrong, if it's your company and you're the ceo and your name, that sharpie is on everything, i would expect if that was me i would think that if that was my company that that would be coming. this is against the former president, distinguished office, there is some grace towards that. it's, we will see what happens. >> now that we have been reporting and confirming at nbc news through the trump org reps the charges are expected to be filed tomorrow, given we know

that, now, jen, is there anything else you might be comfortable with sharing to revisit our conversation at the top of the interview any conversations you might have had with the grand jury? >> not at this time. the investigation is not stopping because this happens tomorrow. i'm still, we're still meeting, sending over documents and still continuing to plunge away. that is happening the next six months in place. >> do you have meetings set beyond this week, next week. do you know if you'll have further discussions with the d.a.'s office? >> my lawyer, duncan levin is in constant contact with them, yes. >> jennifer weisselberg, we are grateful for your time. well timed given the news coming out now, significant news. go ahead, jen. >> what are the odds? what are the odds?

up believable. >> jennifer weisselberg thank you again. somebody who knows about what is happening here, provided documents to those investigator, jen, we appreciate your time. we want to say our own tom winter is scrambling to a camera to join us with more details on his reporting. we'll have these ahead after the break. we'll talk about something else related to the former president, his trip to the southern border today. critics calling it a stunt to rally his base. somebody joining him former acting dhs secretary chad wolf standing by live to talk about the goals and what they hope to accomplish, coming up. siness wa, but then an influx of new four-legged friends changed everything. dr. petsworth welcomed these new patients. the only problem? more appointments meant he needed more space. that's when dr. petsworth turned to his american express business card, which offers spending potential that's built for his changing business needs. he used his card to furnish a new exam room and everyone was happy.

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we are back and we are following that breaking news right here on "msnbc reports" from our investigative team that in fact two representatives from the trump organization say they expect charges to be filed against the organization as soon as tomorrow, this is key because the question on timing had been an open one since last week, when we first began reporting

this possibility. let me bring in correspondent tom winter leading our coverage of this. what do you no he? >> a couple of things. charges are expected tomorrow and one representative of the trump organization telling adam reese perhaps 2:00 p.m. will be the timing for the charges tomorrow. hallie, a couple of things. first off, nobody in law enforcement is commenting on the timing, though perhaps tellingly nobody is telling us it is wrong either so that's the first thing. the second thing is i think if you had told me two months ago, three months ago the trump organization's going to be charged, i would have said that's probably the final action in this, but that legal thinking and that legal calculus has changed and so i think it's important to know some of the things that the trump attorneys have been talking about recently saying that they've been told the investigation will be ongoing. i don't think this is necessarily the final action in this investigation tomorrow. it is a significant one. it has the potential to have a tremendous impact on the trump

organization and here's why, hallie. it is possible that banks, because this is now going to be an organization that is believed to be under criminal indictment, that banks may say you know what? we want to call our loans. you guys need to repay us and repay us now. we don't know the terms of the loans and don't know what redress the banks have but this is significant for the trump organization, as it may impact their financing, it may impact their day-to-day business and i think there's a thinking here, hallie, that the amount of pressure that this will put on the indictment of allen weisselberg the cfo or any other individuals the amount of impact this could have on the organization could pressure them and could pressure maybe other individuals who are no longer paid by them to perhaps come forward and speak. >> tom, i'm taking this here, a couple of questions. do we know anything about the way this announcement might come tomorrow? what is your sense? would prosecutors hold like a news conference? is that even in the realm of possibility or is this more of a

filing that we would see? talk us through what your expectations are there as far as we know. >> my expectation is it's going to be a filing, hallie and'reports are true and our reporting is accurate in that this investigation is going to be ongoing, it has been the prerogative of manhattan district attorney cy advance is not hold press conferences and not speak about it. i would assume that would be the case for tomorrow as well. >> you talk about this investigation being ongoing. i don't know if you had a chance to see our interview that we just conducted on the show with jennifer weisselberg, allen weisselberg's former daughter-in-law, just as this news was breaking. i know you were sprinting to a camera so i'm not sure. she suggested the grand jury would be seated for another six months and she also expected this to be an ongoing process that her lawyers she said are in constant contact with those individuals that are doing the investigation from the manhattan d.a.'s office. i wonder what you make of that, tom, and what that says to you. >> a couple of different things. this dove tails to what i was speak being before. i think the investigation has the potential to have some legs

depending upon who comes forward, who speaks with them. it's still ongoing. you know, hallie, it's been four months and six days since the manhattan district attorney's office has been able to have trump's tax documents. i think that's important. so they've made a lot of headway in a short amount of time. what other things might they figure out as they continue to go down the legal paths particularly if anybody begins to cooperate with them. i think that's important. i think there's more steps for them to go down. this is a tactical thing, it's a tactical thing for trump's attorneys to suggest what they've suggested that this is very limited in scope and very ticky tack and outrageous legal thing to file. they're clearly trying to fill in the runway and represent their client. on the other hand we've heard nothing from law enforcement that leads us to believe that this will not be a significant action tomorrow. it might be and in new york while there are statute of limitations concerns if you start getting into conspiracies and schemes you can say okay

this certain action happened within the last two or five years, whatever the statute of limitations might be, but, hallie, you could bring in prior bad behavior to show that there's a pattern of this over time. so we shouldn't expect tomorrow's charges, i don't think to be just limited to the last several years. i think that we're going to get a lot more information that potential certainly exists, hallie. >> tom, you talked about and i want to pull on this thread a little bit, the tactical way that the former president's attorneys have been handling this. as you know, i've been in contact with my sources in the trump orbit over the last week, several days. i don't want you to get out ahead of your skis on anything you're hearing. can you give us insight as to the demeanor of some of these representatives of the trump org as you are talking with them and our colleagues are talking with them given the charges are coming. by all accounts these are not insignificant and there may be with some experts of collateral consequences, things that aren't necessarily legal but affect the

brand in a way that could be detrimental to the organization moving forward. >> i think the collateral consequences here is a big part of it. i've been focused on the law enforcement side of things. adam reese, yourself, others have been speaking with folks in the trump orbit, based on their on the record quotes and the things they're saying publicly, they're trying to put a fire hose of cold water on what is about to come that is the smart strategy as a defense attorney i was speaking with dan goldman the other day on with nicole wallace, he talked about the times he's gone up against ron frischetti, the attorney for trump in this whole investigation and dan goldman, former federal prosecutor led the impeachment the first time around of the president. this is somebody experienced, knows new york media, knows how to work the media and you had to put information out. i think he's trying to get us to focus on certain things. it doesn't mean he's inaccurate. it doesn't mean that his points are not valid but obviously he has a client to represent and when you talk about the

collateral damage of collage damage to the president and children's wealth to in his words an empire that's built in the golfing hotel and private business community when you look at all of that or private property community, that that could all be under threat perhaps as soon as 2:00 p.m. tomorrow, i think you're going to see a voe riff russ response from the president's representatives from the trump organization's representatives and we'll have to see when we actually get the charges how detailed they are, what information we actually get in them and then what that information tells us about the trump organization and then we'll see what the impacts are from there. an awful lot of unknowns as much as we know about the trump organization as much as we think about this investigation. there are tens of thousands of pages of documents, much more than that that the manhattan district attorney's office is looking at and they were able to get after defeating two challenges from the president's attorneys in the supreme court, that they've been able to get here, so there's a lot of this

that we just don't have any insight into because it's protected by grand jury secrecy, hallie. >> tom winter, i know you have been working the phones so i'll let you get back to it. thank you for jumping in front of a camera with breaking news developing now here on "msnbc reports." tom, thank you. you heard tom talk about the potential for vociferous response from the trump organization. it is possible we may get a response from the former president himself because he is going to be in front of cameras later on down in texas. why? not for anything having to do with the trump rg but everything having to do with what's going on at the border. he and a group of high-profile republican, roughly 30 members of congress we expect are heading to the southern border trying to put immigration politics front and center. he's touring parts of texas today with governor greg abbott there. as for governor abbott, he's now promising to fulfill the former president's campaign promise and build his own border wall saying he plans to use $250 million from the state budget, he is

soliciting private nations. the crowd funding website set up by the state made something like $450,000 in just about a week. i am joined by somebody else who i understand will be at the border. president trump chad wolf, former acting secretary of homeland security in the trump administration. secretary wolf, good morning and thanks for being on. >> thanks for having me, hallie. >> a lot to get into, a lot on the border and i'd be remiss if i didn't start with the news in the last 20 minutes the potential for the former president's business, for the trump organization to be charged we expect tomorrow by the manhattan district attorney's office. your reaction? >> i don't know figure about that, haven't been following that case, focused on homeland security issues so i'm watching the reporting on your show as many of your viewers will recall. >> as you talk about your capacity as you're working on homeland security issues you are not at the border appearing in any official capacity, neither is the former president.

what is it that you're hoping to accomplish down there other than the pop ticks talking about a campaign issue i know republicans are hoping to capitalize on. >> for me, i can't speak for former president trump or others this is drawing attention to the impact on border communities and americans across the board. illegal narcotics or the human traffics that we see in record numbers, it's important to continue to talk about this, continue to try to find solutions to the crisis that we see there today. >> we talked about governor abbott's border wall just a moment ago. there are critics who say this is a misuse of funds, probably not constitutional given the immigration enforcement and the federal issue. that say point mr. secretary that you yourself made publicly when you were in the administration. that it is not up to local authorities tone force immigration laws. that is dhs' job. how is what governor abbott is doing okay in your view? >> i think the issue here is that the federal government is not actually enforcing

immigration law along that border. so you have states that are very, very -- >> wait a second, mr. secretary. the administration would say something different. theish auto is you governor abbott would like to as he said fulfill the former president's pledge to build the wall in texas alone. i'm specifically asking about the constitutionality questions. immigration enforcement you acknowledged is a dhs thing. governor abbott is not the dhs secretary. >> right, but there are things that governor abbott can do as governor of the state of texas to protect communities, to protect his citizens, including border inpractice structure on different lands in the state of texas as well as making sure that's holding those that have no legal right to be here, he can certainly hold those individuals. what the state of texas likely can't do that other states likely cannot do is actually deport individuals. that is a federal government responsibility when you talk about enforcing immigration law. >> got it. can you explain, mr. secretary, and i really wonder this, how is it that you are going down there

to the border with donald trump today, willing to stand next to somebody whose administration you resigned, repeatedly undermined a key part of our democracy lying about an election which you yourself have called the most secure election in u.s. history. >> a couple of things. the invitation from governor abbott i was happy to accept that invitation and two this is about border security and i've been talking a lot about that, i talked about while i was in office and president trump was sincere over the four years in trying to bring some rationality back to border security and immigration enforcement. i think we accomplished that in 2019 and 2020 and unfortunately we've seen that undone in a matter of weeks earlier this week, sorry, earlier this year. it's important to have that debate so i think that's what this trip is about, and that's what we've been talking about over the last several months is how do we bring border security back to the border. >> i would be remiss not to note that surge at the border started while former president trump was in office.

separately i wand to make sure i understand what you're saying, in your view then and i don't want to put words in your mouth but trying to read between the lines. first you said invited by governor abbott, not donald trump which to me is an indication you're looking to distance yourself from him and you believe immigration is more important than the lies that donald trump has been spreading about the election, which is why you are appearing with him today. do i have that right or no? >> no, you don't have that right. i'm very proud of my service in the trump administration over four years and as acting secretary and what we did to secure the homeland and part of that is the border security and immigration enforcement we did worked and we have results that showed it worked. you talk about the surge in 2020. i wouldn't say it was a surge. there were immigration consequences for those crossing the border illegally. those that cross illegally there is no consequence, back to catch and release. that's what i've been talking about the last four months and why i'm here on the border. >> that's not actually the case at hand but i just want to get

and promise i will move on. i covered the trump administration. i remembered when you resigned after january6th. how is it that you are comfortable standing alongside donald trump after you came out and put yourself on the line saying this was the most secure election in u.s. history and stated the truth and facts about the election. i want to get to that point. i'm trying to understand how you're doing this today. >> look, hallie, i appreciate that you want to talk about personalities. i'm here to talk about an issue -- it >> democracy, right? >> that you don't want to cover the crisis on the borer it. i'm happy to talk about policies that do and don't work. that's why i'm here on the border to talk about border security. >> i feel like i've given you an opportunity to answer. clearly isn't an area you want to go to. we're talking about immigration and democracy and i have to ask you about other news of the day, the house voting to create that january 6th select committee.

you know the vote is happening. if asked, will you appear before the committee if they'd like you to? is that something you'd do? >> sure, i have n haven't been for approached. happy to talk about the events of january 6th and everything the department when i was there involved in leading up to that and how we shared intelligence and how we prepared for dhs to protect dhs facilities in d.c. >> you talk about the dhs preparation on that front, that bipartisan joint senate committee excuse me report i should say talked about a number of failures leading up to that day. one of them and i quote "neither the fbi nor dhs issued a threat assessment or intelligence bulletin warning law enforcement entities in the potential for violence." it doesn't put all the blame on d, this s but you did lead the agency at the time. do you feel like you are able to accept some responsibility for what was described as a breakdown there ahead of the 6th? >> i think it's important to remember that the information sharing that we did inside the

district of columbia, with a number of law enforcement agencies to include capitol police all of that information was shared. they have the same intelligence dhs and dod and fbi did that others did in my view from what i saw and what i was shown and so we shared that information with the relevant partner there is that needed to take action. i think there's been a lot talked about what capitol police did not, did do, that's separate. yes, obviously you can always do things better but again, i think that the information that we had at the time that we received obviously we received from the fbi and were sharing that with others as we could. >> in hindsight, secretary wolf, do youwish you had been more aggressive given with the insurrection on the 6th as far as the intelligence sharing knowing we're doing monday morning quarterbacking here. >> again, i think it's important to keep in mind jurisdictions, and important to keep in mind what the department of homeland security could and couldn't do so we were able to protect

federal facilities in d.c., we had a number of personnel there, but the capitol police, dod and the pentagon obviously have different and unique authorities on how they do that with the national guard. again, we were sharing information. we were on phone calls leading up to the 6th. the department did a fairly good job making sure the information that we had that others in the district of columbia had as well. >> former acting dhs secretary chad wolf, thank you for being on the show and making a lot of news here. i'm sure some of the democrats looking to form that select committee are interested to hear that you are willing to talk with them and to cooperate with that investigation. thank you very much, mr. secretary. appreciate it. still ahead on msnbc, the president and vice president meeting with western governors about the threat from wildfires in this deadly heat wave. we'll take you inside that meeting, after the break. water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. daughter: slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean.

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these press briefings people are just holding their breath waiting to find out if officials will start to classify this as a recovery or a rescue. >> that is one of the biggest questions in just about 40 or 35 minutes or more. >> a new push to try to overturn state laws. just today, just in the last couple hours here. at the center of the case, a 13-year-old soccer goalie that played on girls sports teams since she was 8. they also plan to bring challenges in charge or tennessee. mr. david, good morning to you.

thank you for being back on the show. >> as viewers will know, explain why you think you would win the challenge especially on the state of florida. >> we have the constitution and we have federal law to protect lbgtq people. what is really concerning is they know the law. they appreciate the law, but they are looking at the equal protection of the laws. that they issued a notice of interpretation, saying that in clinton county they said very clearly where they prohibit discrimination on the basis of

sex, it should be interrupted to include it based on facts. they signed it into law to protect a full verbal population that are transgender young people. he should be ashamed and we're going to hold him accountable in court. our lays have to mean something. that we know they mean something and that st why we're going into federal court to hold him account tobl make sure that lbgtq people are protected under law. do you think the ncaa needs to be doing more tostep up when it comes to this issue? >> absolutely. look the ncaa has an example. in 2016 with it was very clear they would not "sports

illustrated"ing events because they were looking to enact a piece of legislation to ban transgender young people from using restrooms consistent with their gender iett. we reached out, they told us in two separate writings that they believe that these bills are harmful, tang rouse, and actually inconsistent with their own policies. and yet the ncaa is still hosting events in states that have antilbgtq laws. so we're asking them, what they did in 2016, we're asking them to do the same here. we're going to hold them accountable in court. but we think it is important that they rise up as well and challenge the discriminatory policies. they have the power to do it as opposed to states with lbgtq

laws. >> so on that point the attorney general panned any state paid for travel that is nonessential to 17 states over this. there are critics that say state politicians in california should worry about their own state's problems. i wonder if you think they have a point or if you see this having any impact on the issue. >> they are disregarding their reality which is states have economic power. states decide where they spend their money. so the state of california says we're not going to invest in the state of florida because they discriminate against lbgtq people. the state of new york took a similar position in the past when states were passing laws that discriminate against lbgtq people. states have economic power, an ability and responsibility to

spend money doesn't with their existing laws and policies. and the state of florida is enacting legislation that is directly inconsistent with the policies of the state of california. >> i have about 15 seconds left, but while you're here, i have to ask you about miss nevada who will be the first openly transwoman to compete in miss usa. >> we're beautiful, we're proud, we're so proud that she will represent the community in this pa agenda. pageant. >> thank you for being on. thank you all for watching this hour of hallie jackson reports. a lot of breaking news and a lot of headlines here. they will all be on twitter. we'll also have continuing coverage throughout the day right here on msnbc.

not just the charges that we expect to come tomorrow, but the latest on what is happening in surfside, florida, as well. picking up our coverage with kris jansing right now. soon we'll here from president biden who is talking with governors and the focus is on the amendment treatment heat, drought, and wild fire threats. in just about 30 minutes we'll have a update on surfside florida. no one has been pulled out alive since thursday. we will go live to that press briefing when it starts. but first, to that breaking news, the trump