tv Stephanie Ruhle Reports MSNBC July 1, 2021 6:00am-7:00am PDT
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pelosi to sit on the select committee. put that together with that video, 40 mutes from the "new york times." republicans want to bury the truth of what happened on january the 6th. that does it for us this morning. we will see you right back here tomorrow morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle. it is thursday, the 1st of july. we start with breaking news. allen weisselberg, one of president trump's closest longtime allies, the chief financial officer of the trump organizations that officially surrendered to the police. this picture from the "new york times" shows the moment it happened. 6:17 a.m. this morning, after weisselberg was indicted by the manhattan district attorney and the new york attorney general. we expect those charges to be officially unsealed -- that means we know what is in them --
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this afternoon along with charges against the trump organization. we have a reporter in nyc. we have a reporter from the "new york times," and -- david parent hollywood is a poeft reporter covering trump's businesses. tom give us the latest. >> as you said, allen weisselberg the chief financial officer in the courthouses behind us as we wait for charges to be unsealed. we expect that to happen at ebola 2:00 p.m. today. they will be read in court as far as the specific things that they allege to have violated, both the trump organization as well as allen weisselberg. there will be an arraignment at some point and he can either enter a plea or not. that's what's going forward today. what is happening right now, people are trying to understand how broad this will be. our understanding charges today is that it is specific to this
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idea of the off the books benefits, who received what type of kpais compensation off the books. did it violate the law? how did it violate the law? i think that's going to be the key thing we will learn today. and then of course where does it go from here. it is not the period at the ep of the investigation, perhaps just the first word of the sentence. that's what we are going to be looking for and obviously what we will be tracking late they are afternoon as we get into court. >> andrew, what are you hoping to learn when the indictments are unsealed? >> i think the key here is that the government clearly does not yet have enough with respect to donald trump. so i am going to be look at this to see how much leverage the current charges have with respect to allen weisselberg, what is he facing personally in terms of his own personal taxes? is he charged with aiding, abetting or conspiring with the
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trump organization in connection with their liability? how much money is involved in all of this. because all of that is going to go to what kind of sentence he faces, and thus what kind of leverage the government has now. because, clearly, this signals -- while it is a huge development -- that they do not believe they have enough yet with respect to bringing charges against donald trump. >> and that's sort of the whole enchilada here, how much money. david, we heard it is going to be charges surrounding a scheme to pay people like eichelberg off the books. we are not talking about an extra coffee pot or a black car ride after work. it could be school tuition, multimillion dollar apartments, millions and millions of dollars of perks. >> that's right. that's a possibility that a number of people were getting these benefits and they were
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quite value. that's one of the allegations we have heard, free cars, free apartments, free tuition. what that adds up to and what was the lost tax value to new york. if they believe they should have paid packs on them and they didn't, how much actual money was lost. that's going to go a long way to determining how bad are the penalties or the possible penalties for weisselberg. >> to that point, andrew, if it was huge apartments, free cars, not paying taxes on them, what would that mean in terms of how serious the charges would be? because when you just hear, oh, he want paying taxes on perks, it doesn't feel like that's enough to get him to flip on trump. >> well, tax charges themselves are not a huge amount of pressure to get somebody to flip even if you are talking about a few million dollars because the criminal liability is just the portion that's not paid in taxes. you know, you may get millions
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of dollars in benefits, but the actual amount that the state lost is a small fraction of that. so it really remains to be seen just how much pressure this is. there is also the issue of defenses. so you could imagine a defense to these charges if you are allen weisselberg being that he thought these were gifts and it was not fringe benefits. and that would have dramatic changes in terms of what the government would have to prove. i suspect there are emails or witnesses that could help the government sort of defeat that kind of defense. again, that's something that i think we are all going to be looking frantically, as soon as this indictment is released, to see what proof does the government have to shore up these charges. >> katie, it's also what does weisselberg have on trump, but what does trump have on
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weisselberg. jennifer weisselberg told hallie jackson he's not going to flip on trump because donald trump has so much leverage over him. here's what she said. >> what is the leverage? >> issues with the presidential inaugural committee. >> can you tell us anything more about that? >> i mean, it seems like it bleeds into the trump organization. and there were some things going on after donald was already president where they were capitalizing on making money for themselves. and it looks like in depositions that allen weisselberg was involved, along with the cfo in the white house to orchestrate that money. and one of the organizations that stole the money looks like it was the trump org. >> katie, what's your reaction to that? >> sure. you know, we know that there were many, many news reports that came out after the
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inauguration looking at whether or not money was improperly run flew the inaugural committee, how things were paid for, what was going on with donations. so this has been something that at least reporters and others have been looking at, scrutinizing, basically, since trump was president. whether or not that's something that the state of new york is looking at is to be seen. again, to an drou's point, we are -- to andrew's point we are going to see any hints of that in the document today if we see it at all. the biden administration has seemed very keen to turn the page and move beyond the trump era. and having states run these types of investigations and look into donald trump i think helps them on that count. it helps them to be able to say we are moving past. and these investigations that look at trump will happen elsewhere so the administration itself can at least try to say we are not being conscribed by the specter of donald trump. >> david, you called weisselberg
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the most figure in the organization that's not last named trump. the big debate is if you can't get weisselberg to flip, can you build a case against donald trump? >> we don't know everything the prosecutors have. one of the things that's going to be important if you are going to prove anything against trump is did he understand these financial transactions were wrong and say okay, i know it is wrong but do it anyway. others used email to trip themselves up in the way. donald trump doesn't use email. weisselberg is one of the few individuals who can say i was there, he hold me do it anyway. even trump's children don't have the same access as weisselberg did. if you don't have documentation it might be hard to show anybody what trump's intent or understanding was even if you
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think he did something illegal. >> andrew, does today feel like chapter one or the grand finale? >> chapter one. >> oh. >> to me, this harkens back to the issue that we had when we were doing the enron investigation. in order to get to the show called c suite of jeff skilling and ken lay, we also had the problem of their not using emails and needing to have witnesses who were in the room with them. and what that took was charging, and then flipping, andrew fasto, who was the cfo. and that eventually happened. and that led us to being able to charge the chairman and ceo of enron. to me, that is what's going on here. but it remains to be seen whether the charges are significant enough and carry enough penalties to cause
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weisselberg to flip. or whether we read them and go, you know, they have the case but the charges are not significant enough to really put enough pressure on him that he is facing so much time that he thinks the wiser course is to cooperate. the one point i would lake in addition is he has an excellent defense lawyer who i think is very independent. it seems quite different than other lawyers in this case. she's going to be clearly assessing the charges and the strength and advising her client as to what's in his best interest. >> reminder, you can go after an organization. andrew was part of enron situation where arthur anderson, the accounting firm, is now gone. katie we have heard about allegations of possible tax fraud, possible insurance fraud. but we have not really heard anything about what cy vance has
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learned from trump's taxes. where are we on any of that? >> one of the things that would make the taxes significant is it would indicate what donald trump represented to the u.s. government vis-a-vis how much his property was worth. if he was indicating a different amount to banks in order to get loans it would show a discrepancy and you would try to put together a scenario in which he knowingly misrepresented to one party or the other the value of his properties in order to gain something testimonically. that would be a larger case against the trump organization. but as everybody has said it is important to have a key witness, somebody who was in the room during conversations about larger misdeeds. that person would be allen weisselberg. and it remains to be seen whether or not he is willing to play ball. >> tom, what are you looking for in the indictments to give you a
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sense of what's next? >> in new york state we don't get speaking indictments. we have talked about this countless time. we get an indictment from the u.s. attorney's office here in new york. it is 30, 40, 50 pages of detailed information, time line, maybe text messages, email conversations are included in that. that's not typically something we see in new york state but since they are charging a company, will they have the ability to give us a lot more information to help us understand the broader part of this? which leads me to my second point, so far we have heard about what's going on today from trump's attorneys, attorneys on the defense side to kinds of knock the air out of what we are about to hear today and what might be contained in these indictments. i think it will be interesting to see just how much more the manhattan district attorney's office has in the charging documents once esee them later today. >> tom, stay right there.
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we will come back to you throughout the hour. katie, david, andrew, don't go too far. if this is chapter one, none of you are going to be able to go on vacation this summer. we will have a lot to cover. i want to bring in new york democratic congressman shawn patrick maloney, a member of the house intelligence committee. we have a lot to cover. i want to start with your reaction to what you are seeing unfold in new york city this morning? >> i hope you are not cancelling everybody's summer vacation. i think i got in under the wire there. i'm glad there is accountability. we are going to focus on investing $720 billion, passing out of the house of representatives, probably on a bipartisan basis, $720 billion investing in core american infrastructure. what we are focus on is investing for the future building our country back better. i am going to let justice get served in new york. we will do our jobs down here. >> all right. let's talk about the january 6th
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insurrection. "new york times" just released a 40-minute in-depth look at what happened on that day. i want to play part of it to show you and our audience exactly what police were dealing with and how things got so out of control. please watch this. >> capitol police have been ordered to withhold somer their stronger weapons. as soon as as robert glover a metro police inspector arrives you calls for his munitions team to help. >> give me a dso team, dso team, dso team to respond to the west part of the capitol. >> when the building is breached, glover knows he niece to retreat and seeks advice from capitol leaders. >> i need a command official from capitol so we can coordinate where they want us to pull back to. we cannot hold this without
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ammunitions or -- [ indiscernible ] >> capitol don't respond. he asks four times. >> i need to know from capitol where do we want to pull back to? >> then, the police lose the line. >> we've lost the line. we've lost the line. pd, pullback. >> congressman, that video is not about politics. it is about national security. it's about democracy. there was a poll out just two days ago that said two thirds of republicans think the insurrection gets too much attention. can you take us to your district? because you represent a pretty red district. what do your voters tell you about january 6th, it doesn't really matter? >> no, they don't say that at all. they have got common sense.
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they also need leaders to speak the truth. it is our job sometimes to lead not just to react, take the easiest path. that video is infuriating. i was inside the chamber that day. i saw what happened. i don't need ary reminder. but i think it is important for the historical record and by the way to honor the service of those police officers who were doing difficult work. the republicans voted against resourcing our police all over the country by opposing the president's rescue plan. they opposed our security supplemental legislation. that's the bill that would have paid those guys right there you were watching in that fight the overtime they observed for the overtime they worked on january 6th. every republican voted against that. only one party right now is standing up for resourcing our law enforcement, standing with those heroic officers, listening to their spoers and making sure
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the record is complete. i am glad that the speaker created the select committee to do that with the support of a bipartisan group of house members, by the way. and we are going to move forward and we are going to get the truth. and not because we are going to lose focus for a minute on investing in our country, ending the pandemic, growing the economy, delivering good jobs and good health care, but because we have a responsibility to do it and the people will need to give us the space to get the truth to them. but it's important that we do so. >> can you get the answers you need without republicans' help? >> well, look. you know, technically, sure. we are going to have subpoena power. we will have a lot of people who are going to come forward and tell the truth. we will get the documents and we will aet all the information we node to learn exactly who did what so we can learn for the future and hold people accountable. that may include congress or members of the administration.
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it is imperative we have a bipartisan committee working on that. kevin mccarthy right now the republican leader is twisting arms and making threats to avoid cooperation by any member of his caucus, threatening to take away their committee assignments if they participate in this. that's outrageous. we are bending over backwards to get bipartisan inclusion in this because it would make a stronger representation for the american people. but we will get to the truth one way or the other. that is what matters. >> he can take away their committee assignments but he cannot control whether they are voted in or voted out. the american people watched those videos and they want answers. coming up next, we just got word there will be a press conference later this hour from surfside, florida, one week since that partial condominium collapse. and president biden is set to arrive any minute.
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constand. this morning we are getting new reaction from several of his accusers. >> andrea constand reacting to the decision, calling it not only disappointing, but of concern in that it may discourage those who seek justice for sexual assault in the criminal justice system from reporting or participating in the prosecution of the assailant. her fellow accusers distraught. janice tweeting sick to my stomach. victoria valentino said she didn't believe it when she first heard. >> outraged. i'm infuriated. >> cosby says his contact with constand was consensual and denied all other allegations of wrongdoing. stephanie, why exactly was cosby's conviction thrown out? >> all right. well, you know, it gets a little
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complicated. let me just first say we are right outside of his house and right now his longtime spokesman is talking to the media. he said cosby might come out later on today as well and then he will later leave the house and go be with his wife. let's get back to the issue of the pennsylvania pen supreme court. in 2007, constand accuses cosby of drugging her and assaulting her in this house. the district attorney at the time was bruce castor. he did not find enough evidence to bring charges but he wanted to compel cosby to give a deposition in a civil case that andrea constand was going to bring. he told cosby he was not going to prosecute him. koss beau gave that deposition. while he gave that deposition he admitted he had given quaaludes to women he wanted to have sex with.
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that part of that deposition was part of the basis for bringing the charges that were brought ten years later by a different district attorney. the pennsylvania supreme court calling that fundamentally unfair and a violation of due process. it is a procedural issue. but let's also be clear, the constitutional right we have not to self incriminate. that's what they say was at the center of this really rare decision. >> kristen -- i'm sorry, i think i mispronounced your name earlier. during a radio interview cosby said this is for all who have been wrongfully imprisoned regardless of race, color, or creed. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm disgusted especially when you take it in conjunction with his other statements such as that this overturned conviction is justice for black americans. as a black female, stephanie, i can tell you that it makes me very sick to my stomach that he is exploiting black americans'
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thirst for justice and trying to equivocate it with what happened to him. what the supreme court said is there was an agreement, while i respect our esteemed bench i disagree respectfully with their decision. nevertheless, a jury of cosby's peers, 12 people said he had sexually assaulted andrea constand after rendering her incapable of consent. the other thing i want to opponent out this was not justice for the three black women who took the stand in trials one and two and testified against him. why? because he sexually assault and directed them too. it makes me sick to my stomach. >> could he now face charges from any of these other women who accused him of assault? or is this thing all over? >> he potentially could,
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stephanie, if the statute of limitations is still alive and viable. however, i can tell you that my belief is that for all of the me that we spoke to and investigated, the statute of limitations in those jurisdictions have expired. so it's unlikely he will be prosecuted unless another victim comes forward and the statute is still alive. >> all right. kristen, stephanie, thank you both so much. we have to turn back to the breaking news in new york city. the cfo of the trump organization, allen weisselberg surrendering to authorities this morning. we just got word from his attorney. tom winter outside the courthouse. also withis u.s. attorney vance. tom, what did you learn. >> quote, mr. weisselberg intends to plead not guilty. and he will fight these charges in court. a short spies and unsurprising. at this point if he was going to
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cooperate prior to today we wouldn't be here today and he wouldn't be surrendering in this way n this manner. completely expected, steph. it's typical of anybody that is charged. initially you want to plead not guilty. you don't want to change your plea in court and not get the benefits of any sort of cooperation agreement. it doesn't preclude him from changing his mind later. he may also decide that i didn't do the things in this indictment and i am doing to fight it in court. i am innocent. completely expected statement from the attorney for allen weisselberg, the cfo, who again surrendered at approximately 6:30 this morning. that's what we have from him at this point. the trump organization last week calling the charges quote completely ridiculous. we know exactly where they stand with it. people emailed me asked whether any of the trumps will be in court because their company the trump organization is going to be indicted.
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the answer is no. only attorneys for the trump organization will be in court. we expect for the court paperwork there hafr to be filed on line and we will get additional details, again, as far as what are some of the patterns of behavior around these charges. i think that's one last important point from me, steph. you know, in new york state -- in many states, certainly in the federal system as well, prosecutors today can file these charges within the statute of limitations. in some instances works years, others five years, and can bring forward charges. ben there is a way that they can produce behavior that occurred outside of the statute of limitations where they can discuss a pattern and practice of conduct that they say is -- that they could say is involved with everything that they have actually charged here today. so i think that's something that we will have to look out for as well. steph. >> joyce, make it as basic as you can and take us to the punchline. you are invited to all of our houses for dinner tonight
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because we are all going talking about it. what does all this mean? >> we are whiting to see the indictment, steph. we need to see how much leverage prosecutors in manhattan are able to muster against weisselberg. he has not pled guilty up to this point or agreed to cooperate with them. that means he's waiting to see what they have to show him today. it may be that he's going to maintain that he's innocent and able to prove it. maybe he's willing to take whatever time is involved in this case in order to stay on trump's side of things. or perhaps he will be one of those defendants who slowly works toward the process of cooperation after he sees the indictment and faces the reality of charges. that's all up in the air right now until we see the charging document, the indictment itself. >> joyce, his lawyer didn't need to make a statement today. the fact she's coming out this
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morning and again maintaining his innocence, doesn't that show us he ain't looking to flip? >> i think that that's where he is right now, steph. that's really the only thing that we can take away from the fact that there is not a preindictment deal. but i wouldn't read too much into this statement. mary mulligan has likely seen at least a draft of this indictment as they went through the process of talking with prosecutors before this indictment came down. i'm sure she knows what the charges are. and it is pretty pro forma at this point in the case for a defense lawyer to insist upon her client's innocence. >> joyce, i want to change topics and talk about some other breaking news. we learned overnight an l.a. judge denied brittany spears' request to remove her father as conservator of her estate. she's 39 years old. her father jamie has controlled all of her money all of her career. we even learned elements of her bed, for over a decade.
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i want to remind our audience in court last week she said she was overworked without break. medicated with lithium, unable to get on iud removed. i want to share a bit of what our colleague has. >> reporter: overnight a major set back for brittany spears, a judge denying her request the move her father their conservator keeping jamie spears in control of his daughter's finance. the filing stating brittany is unable to manage his her financial resources or resist fraud or undue influence. the decision coming after the super star's explosive testimony last week calling the conservatorships abusive and traumatizing. in new legal filings, jamie spears insist he had nothing to do with his daughter's poor treatment and is demanding an investigation into her concerns. since her very public breakdown in 2008, the pop super star has
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been under a court-sanctioned conservatorship that has given her father and others powers over her personal financial affairs. during the explosive hearing last week spears said she had been drugged, forced to perform, and prevented from removing an iud meant to stop pregnancy. all decisions she says were approved by her father. but jimmy spears pushing back pointing out in court documents that control of his daughter's personal life and medical treatment isn't currently under his control. he blames jody montgomery, a temporary conservator who was brought none 2019 to oversy brittany's personal affairs. an attorney for montgomery says she has been a tirelessed a investigate for brittany and for her well-being also noting that decisions about marriage or family planning are not affected by conservatorship. but one expert says the rules and dynamics in a
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conservatorship are rarely straightforward. >> it's my impression that brittany has been under this conservatorship for so long she truly feels compelled to do what the conservator wants or, in her own words, she feels she will be punished. >> reporter: since brittany's testimony there has been an outpouring of support in person, on line under the #free brittany, and from celebrities including fellow pop star christina aguilera just this week. spears thanked her fans for their support and said during her testimony, i just want my life back. and it has been 13 years, and it's enough. >> joyce i don't get this. if last week's testimony from britney spears and all that we learned didn't get her out of this conservatorship, what will? >> the most important thing to know about yesterday's decision is that it was without prejudice.
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that means that the judge can revisit the decision. this was something that had been in the works. it was really intended to be about confirming an entity called the bessimer trust as a coconservative as long with jamie spears in this matter. although this is certainly a at the time setback and frankly it's tough to understand why the judge didn't at least hedge her bets a little bit and mention what has gone on in her courtroom last week, this is far from the also word we will hear on this conservatorship. >> so hold on. what you are telling us is this judge ruling is saying let's leave it for now, i'm continuing to look into it? >> she's confirmed the bessemer trust as a coconservator. brittany is now free to move forward and file a motion, a formal motion to end the conservatorship. she made her statement judges typically like to ask on the basis of motions. something that changed in this
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dynamic that's very real is that in spears' statement we got a picture who was never fully apprised of her rights. no she knows she can challenge the conservatorship, she can move ahead and knows at some point she will have the ability to appoint her own lawyer, you will recall now that up until now her father has controlled her choice of lawyer. >> her dad has controlled who her lawyer is. now she will get to make that change. joyce, thank you so much. we will leave it there. right now, president biden is touching down in miami, florida, where he will visit the site the condominium collapse as the death toll rises. you can see on your screen he just landed. we learned overnight that two children are the latest victims identified. when we come back after the break, we will go live to the scene, where authorities are expected to give an update any moment now. ive herbal sleep to people who were tired of being tired.
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a busy morning. any minute now, we are awaiting an update from officials on the collapsed condominium in surfside, florida w president biden arriving in miami just a few moments ago. he and the first lady will visit the site of the deadly collapse exactly one week after the building came crashing down. the bodies of two children were pulled from the rubble yesterday bringing the death toll to officially 18. 145 people still remain unaccounted for. i want to get the latest from kelly o'donnell at the white house and morgan sheskey at the scene in surfside. kelly, tell bus the president's visit, what he is going to be doing there today. >> as the president left the white house this morning i was among those shouting to him a question about what his message would be. he did not stop. but during the flight on air force one, one of our press spokespeople here talked to the reporters traveling with the president and said part of what he expects to do today -- it
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will be i'm sure immensely emotional is meeting with the families who are waiting for word, meeting with first responders. he will also speak with governor de santis of florida. part of this is an opportunity for the president to extend, certainly, the federal support and all the resources that he has already authorized and to to that personally, but so much of it is the president trying to make that connection person to person. and reporters asked the white house this morning, and we have been asking over recent days if the president's briefings with surfside and the calamity there have included any estimates on the likelihood of still finding survivors. and the white house was adamant in a the view of the president is that this search will and must continue with the expectation that there could still possibly be survivors. that's something that's of course going to be determined by what actually transpires and the
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expertise of those working at the site. but the sentiment behind that is there is still hope and the president's one is hope to the families. this lab emotionally taxes. they have set aside hours for the president to meet with these families. sometimes when presidents have these opportunities to meet with people after a tragic situation you are talking about numbers in the tens, perhaps, this is 150 families and then all of the first responders, who would be represented in some form. that's a significant emotional outlay and connection for the president and first lady today. on specifics, of course the president believes there should be an investigation into the root causes of this and all that has to happen in terms of ongoing safety for many others who live in condo buildings in that area or others who now recognize the relationship between a condo board and messages and safety wherever they may live that there could
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be serious consequences. so many issues here. we were told by the white house that those in florida in positions of authority said they believed this was the right time to come. the white house has not told us yet whether the will actually be at the site of the collapse or meeting families and so forth at another location. all of that dealing with concerns about not drawing away resources and the supreme court footprint that goes with the president wherever he is. but he will be with those families, first responders, and local officials today for an extended day. we expect it to be a long day in florida. steph? >> morgan, what's latest on the search and investigation? >> we know that president biden just touched down here in florida, walking off air force one just moments ago. you can see champlain towers south behind me. really we have two parallels happening right now, the growing investigation into a poe attention cause and the non-stop search and rescue mission that's really been relatively unabated
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since this happened exactly about a week ago now. as it stands, we have workers going in 12-hour shifts on that pile of rubble digging deeper inside searching for any signs of live. at the same time, we have miami-dade police now calling upon the public to hand over any piece of video they may have taken during this collapse as they try to essentially get any angle, any moment that could lend them to learning more approximate what led this to tumble to the ground a week ago. we have new video that came in overnight that has been verified that was posted to tiktok exactly eight minutes before that tower fell which seems to show water spilling into the parking garage of champagne towers south. it is unknown if this was contributing to the cause of the collapse, but this could be the last real time that anyone saw that tower standing. the woman who took it was staying in an nearby hotel.
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it appears something was offer. these why she recorded the video. these are the did bits that are starting to come through over the last week. it couples with the fact that that 2018 structural integrity report identified significant deficiencies inside that building cracks in the foundation year the pool area, cracks in the concrete beams of the parking dpraj. that is the same thing we have heard from residents we have spoken to. i had a chance to speak to a gentleman what was not home at the time, his apartment one of the ones that is now disappeared. he said even when he lived there he had cracks in his balcony and he could see cracks in the building across way. calls for accountability growing stronger. another lawsuit filed yesterday on behalf of a person still missing inside the rubble of that tower. his attorney saying they want to stop at least for a moment the search and rescue efforts so they can preserve evidence and
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make sure that it's not compromised in the ongoing investigation. >> meanwhile, we have got scores of aging high-rise buildings across this country being managed by homeowners associations who are unqualified for this kind of task. we will bring you right back to miami when that press conference begins. now let's turn back to capitol hill, where a house panel on the covid crisis is holding a hearing on vaccine hesitancy and the race to vaccinate is getting even more urgent with the delta variant now responsible for one of every four infections in the u.s. the spread is raising questions over masking up again just before the holiday weekend. joining me now, someone who has been critical to getting us masked and vaxed, andy slavitt, the former white house senior covid response adviser and author of the new book, preventable the inside story of how leadership failures,
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politics, and selfishness doomed u.s. coronavirus response. andy, president biden wanted 70% of adults to get at least one shot by july 4th. he is going to fall short, barely short. where are we in the fight right now? >> stephanie, good morning, look we have come quite a distance from when president biden and we had less than 2% of americans with a first shot. nower with close to 67% as you just showed. i don't think we should be worried about the difference between 67 and 70% as much as we should be worried about the fact that there are parts of the country that have 40 to 50% of adults with their first shot and other parts are in better shape. with the delta variant coming the parts of the country and the people that are vaccinate ready in relatively good shape. i think they should be relaxed about the delta variant. but people who are living in communities with a lot of people when are unvaccinated or who themselves are unvaccinated, the
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delta variant is a real concern. >> what keeps a lot of people unvaccinated or at least confused is mixed messaging. and we are still getting it. the world health organization is now saying we should still wear masks even if we are vaccinated. cdc says the opposite. why are they not on the same page? >> such a science. we are witnesses science real time, which is to say that sometimes there are answers that are definitive and everyone agrees on. and other times when there is not enough data people differ. the truth is that we should view both of those organizations, the w.h.o. and the cdc as providing us guidelines and we ourselves need to make our own comfort on top of that. i personally think that the cdc's guidance is the right guidance. if you have been vaccinated, your risk of getting covid, even with the delta variant, indoors, is very, very, very low. it's not zero but it is very low.
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that doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense for some people to choose to wear masks. people who are a little bit nervous or themselves see the risk as higher. there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. but the science says if you have been if you haven't been vaccinated, you should be wearing a mask and strongly consider getting vaccinated. >> okay, but that's why we're confused. the average person doesn't know the difference between the cdc and w.h.o. not one group says yes, one group says no. and for most of us, we're not wearing masks anymore. we're vaccinated. you can't put the genie back in the bottle. your job at the white house doesn't even exist anymore. the president said very clearly, mission accomplished. do you see where you can get american people to start wearing masks again? >> i think that's not the task right now. the task right now is to get american people who haven't been
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vaccinated to be vaccinated. i think people's masks on their own individual preferences and different bodies unfortunately that have said slightly different things. but, look, that is the reality about science. sometimes science isn't clear. it doesn't mean it's not science. unfortunately, we're living through a period of time where people aren't exactly sure. i can tell you that the cdc, their view is based upon data and their view strongly says you are much, much better off if you've been vaccinated. if you're in the hospital with covid or you're succumbing to covid, it's almost entirely the case that you haven't been vaccinated. if you get vaccinated, you're much, much, of safer. that's the message that people should focus on. if we do, we'll be in a very fortunate position. if people continue to not be vaccinated, they'll be at risk. >> you obviously never want to see anyone get covid. however, the people who are unvaccinated, the exception of children right now, are without
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a doubt choosing not to be vaccinated. the average new daily cases is stuck around 10,000. we know we're going to always have some spread. realistically, how much are you okay with? >> well, look, i think we have now what i would consider to be a manageable challenge as opposed to a big emergency. and it's a manageable challenge because we have the tools to protect ourselves. it doesn't mean we always protect ourselves. people don't always wear seat belts. what's important, even though it's an infectious disease, even though you're, quote, unquote, being irresponsible, not vaccinated, not wearing a mask, they're very unlikely of spreading it to you. that's an enormous difference than we were a year ago. that difference should make
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us -- >> andy, i need to interrupt you. the press conference is starting in surfside, florida, and we need to take our audience there. >> we are not expecting any impacts through saturday, but obviously the state meteorological team is actively monitoring this storm, will continue to provide updates and our department of emergency management continues to implement contingency plans, including identifying alternate work. including local and state personnel. 59 individuals have been registered for individual assistance. 108 resource requests have been fulfilled and the florida department of transportation has removed almost 1,400 tons of building material from the site. now, obviously, last night there was issues with the remaining
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structure. and our state assets are being provided to miami-dade in terms of engineering know-how so they can look to see what their options are to handle this. obviously we believe continuing searching is something that's very, very important. so the department of engineers are working. i know fire department and the county are getting their different options on how to handle this. but, of course, we're going to provide whatever resources they need to be able to allow the searches to continue. thank you. >> thank you, governor. lieutenant governor? [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> thank you, lieutenant governor. mayor daniella. >> as many of you have already seen we were forced to halt operations on the collapse in the early hours of the morning due to structural concerns about the standing structure. we're doing everything we can to ensure that the safety of our first responders is paramount and continue our search and rescue operation as soon as it is safe to do so. and our engineers are continuing
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to monitor the structure as we've paused operations to evaluate the situation and all possible options and next steps, including with the assistance of the state engineers. i want to stress that president biden's visit today will have no impact on what happens at the site. the search and rescue operation will continue as soon as it is safe to do so. the only reason for this pause is concerns about the standing structure. we have already informed the families this morning who are waiting and waiting about this development, and we have worked to answer all the questions that they have about the operation. and we will continue to keep the families and all of you informed as we get new information throughout the day. chief kominsky is going to join me for a more detailed update on the activity at the site.
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connection with engineers. six to 12 inches of movement from a large column from the structure that could fall and cause damage to the support columns and garage area. slight movement in the concrete slabs on the south side of the structure near the north and south corner of the building. immediate adjacent to the south side of the structure. structural engineers and other subject matter experts to work on continued search and rescue operations. >> thank you, chief. for spanish, miami-dade fire rescue director of communications. [ speaking
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