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good evening, everyone. we begin "the reid out" tonight. extraordinary unprecedented development. israel, south korea, egypt, peru. just a few of the nations where a former head of state was indicted or prosecuted. something pretty unimaginable here in the united states. well, the first step towards the possibility of that happened today as the former president's company, the trump organization and its long-time money man, allen weisselberg, were formerly indicted. he appeared in court in lower
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manhattan after surrendering to authorities this morning to face charges on tax crimes. at the arraignment assistant district attorney kerry dunn described the 15-year tax fraud scheme orchestrated by senior executives of the trump organization. the indictment unsealed dated back to at least 2005 and the trump organization and wiseleberg frauded tax authorities and compensated wiseleberg and other trump executives off the books. he received $1.76 million in indirect compensation which was neither reported nor taxed. in all, there are 15 felony counts against wiseleberg and the trump organization including second degree larceny, conspiracy, tax fraud and falsifying business records. both wiseleberg and the trump organization pleaded not guilty to the charges. wiseleberg was released without bail but agreed to surrender his
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passport. the former president was not charged. a spokesman for the trump organization said make no mistake, this is not about the law, this is all about politics. this is the first criminal charges from sigh bans and latisha jaynes. this is likely the end game isn't allen weisselberg who is just one figure. following today's proceedings, attorney general james noted we will continue and follow the facts and the law wherever they may be. before the hearing wiseleberg's attorney said he would fight the charges but now that he faces criminal charges he could agree to cooperate. joining me is tom winter. so, tom, take us inside this proceeding today for mr. wiseleberg and the trump organization. >> in many respects, joy, this
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was very similar to a lot of arraignments in that building that had nothing to do with the gravity of the president or former president's key business and his chief financial officer. it was quick. it was rushed. there was a chatter in the courtroom that is not the type of atmosphere that we typically see in federal courts. but the difference is obviously we are talking about the president's company and his chief financial officer so there was definitely a little bit of a different sense in the air today in anticipation of what we might learn. remember, we had no idea what charges were actually being brought here and how extensive this was leading up to the court appearance and even during the court proceedings we didn't have the full scope of it until we got the court documents. that was the mood inside the courthouse. i think what a lot of people left the courtroom thinking and perhaps the better phrase is
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wondering where does all of this go next? on its face, if you had given me this indictment, i would have said this feels like a ceo woke up and said why is this guy running two sets of books? why are we paying for his cars? what's going on with this condominium or apartment we're paying the payments for? i think this doesn't immediately come across with something that matches up with what we've heard so much over the past years with an investigation looking at bank fraud, insurance fraud and tax fraud which we did get today. the questions we're going to continue to ask is is this something that is just part of the first inning our the top of the first inning or is this something where they really need allen weisselberg to cooperate in order for everything else to fall together or do they just not have it? which is obviously another option. i think time will tell. there's more reporting to do. sure sounds like there's a lot
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more investigating to do for manhattan district attorney cy vance. >> with me is justin snell. tim o'brien and tara do you dell, democratic strategist, former apprentice and president of the dowde br rll group. >> one would assume the cfo would know that you can't take gifts like a free house and a free car and free stuff without reporting it, right? so if he didn't, it does, to tom winters point, beg the question of if he knowingly still benefitted in this way that he you would think have known better, what else were they up to? >> i think that's exactly the right question to ask. i think what we saw today is a lot of people have been saying the tip of a much larger
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iceberg. i think the thing most interesting to me in that entire indictment was the -- were the allegations that they were actively knowingly falsifying records, both internal records within the trump organization as well as knowingly filing false tax returns. if they were removing notations, adjusting numbers, if they were doing that with regard to the valuation of their properties with tax authorities and in turn with banks and lenders, that's the big case that's coming. so i think this might have been a bit of a teaser trailer, if you will, of coming attractions. >> what does it tell you, mr. snell, as a former prosecutor that the grand jury still has months and months to go all the way until november? would it be likely wiseleberg would be the ultimate target and this would be it or the length of the grand jury, the fact that it's still extended tell you something? >> the fact that they did the
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special grand jury six months and by the way, it can be extended. it does not have to end in six months. they just have to go to a judge and get it approved for a longer period of time which i still bet is what they're going to see. i don't think they'll be done by november, december. i think they're going to keep the grand jury going into 2022 but i think you're seeing here really, again, the beginning of something larger. this isn't the last of charges brought against wiseleberg. there could be more brought against him, too. look, if you read all of this together and the news reports and reading between the lines and everything, what's clear is there have been almost certainly between wiseleberg's counsel and the da's office about him cutting a deal. they haven't gotten there. wiseleberg called their bluff basically and this was the
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response. no, sir, we are not bluffing. here's your indictment. here are your handcuffs. we'll see you in court. now can you reconsider? this is part of a chess match. >> yeah. i think that sounds right. tara, you're a business owner. you dealt with donald trump. you know how he operates. does it seem conceivable to you that allen weisselberg could have benefitted and received all of these gifts, his family, his kids received all of this stuff, not accounted for it in the books, in the company taxes without donald trump being aware of that? >> absolutely not. because first of all, we know just from his presidency, let alone all the years in business because this is not his first rodeo in terms of investigations, trump's soho was investigated, particularly don jr. and ivanka. they had emails that were baked. that's a different issue.
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there's no way donald trump would have had him in that position for that long. we saw him how easily he disbars people that disobey him. there's no reason he would stay in that supreme superior position high up that food chain with direct access to donald trump if he weren't doing his bidding. to me, this is what it shows is he was there explicitly to carry out the donald trump orders so donald trump didn't have to do it. >> it's a good point. i can recall, tim o'brien, on my "am joy daze" days. you said allen weisselberg will be the one they focus on because he keeps the numbers. from your point of view i guess i'll ask you the same question. i mean, this is roughly $900,000 in tax evasion. it seems like a fairly sort of mundane tax fraud case, but what do you think is the bigger picture here?
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>> well, clearly, joy, the bigger picture is whether or not they're going to catch donald trump and other members of the trump organization in much more egregious frauds possibly involving bank fraud and tax fraud, possibly money laundering could be in play here. i think for a sort of meat and potatoes as this case was, it was far more sweeping than anyone expected. allen weisselberg faces a maximum of 15 years in prison if he's found guilty on these charges. i doubt he'll get that much in charges. he's a 70-year-old man. he's not going to went a 2 year sentence or 3 year sentence. this shows how much leveragehe da's office has over allen weisselberg right now. it's much more muscular than anyone thought over the last week when some of the echos of this were being heard. secondarily, this issue of donald trump and the relationship to allen
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weisselberg, there are two baskets here, did anything happen at the trump organization of financial significance that donald trump didn't know about? absolutely not. we deposed donald trump for two days under oath in 2007 on a range of parallel issues, and during the course of that deposition he made it very clear any time they presented a financial picture of the trump organization to the outside world, including banks and the media, it was in conjunction with allen weisselberg and they conferred extensively with one another before they did it. the legal issue here is whether or not the da's office can actually prove that with an evidentiary trail. i don't think they would have convened a grand jury unless they were very confident they had evidence that proximated that. we are in the first half of this. there are going to be more acts. i think trump and his legal advisers have lots of reasons to worry because the issue here now
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is is the leverage there to make allen weisselberg flip? it exists and it exists in a very big way. >> you've been down this road with the trump organizations and charities? >> yeah. i mean, the kicker here is you've got -- they wouldn't have elevated this to a criminal probe and done the grand jury. it was the ag's office elevating the criminal probe and joining the da's office and together doing the grand jury. this was a very public step. people still don't realize how significant that was in the first place. both offices were staking their reputations on this, two elected officials. they had a lot to lose and a lot to gain by doing this. when they did this, they were confident they had the goods. at the end of the day the star witness really is not allen weisselberg, it isn't anybody else. the star witness is really the documents. >> yes. >> it's a lot less sexy to say
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that. the star witness are the documents. the documents already got the 80, 90% of the way there. you bring in the grand jury to see if you can tighten it up there. how close can you get to 100% to a slam dunk. you get allen weisselberg to flip, you're in the upper 90s. this is looking good. that doesn't mean they're at 50% if they don't get him to flip. they never would have brought this unless the documents already tell most of the tale. otherwise because we have to remember this too, one more thing, the civil investigation that the ag's office still has, that's in their back pocket. that alone without having to prove intent could be enough to cause restitution and penalties in the amounts of hundreds of millions of dollars to the trump organization. an economic case does not require proof of intent. that alone would be huge punishment.
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people are looking for justice here. they want to see prison sentences. >> for trump the money is what he cares about most. >> they didn't need to go criminal. they went criminal because they have the goods. that's why they did it. >> yeah. lightning round for tim and tara. tim first. does wiseleberg flip on trump or stay loyal? >> i think wiseleberg flips on trump. remember, there were referenceness that indictment to other executives or other people at the trump organization who are aware of this and they have participated in the same activities. they are in play as well. it doesn't all depend on wiseleberg. >> tara, does wiseleberg stay loyal in the mafioso. >> i think it depends. i think it depends on how hot the heat is, right? and i know that right now what we know about donald trump, he's pressuring wiseleberg not himself directly through intermediary with potent
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languages and there's enormous pressure on wiseleberg. we know how he operates. the trump playbook has been the same. >> if he interferes with him, that might be another crime. thank you all very much. coming up on ""the reid out,"" no one knows better the heat that he's in than michael cohen. i have a lot of questions on him on today's indictments. plus, a major part of john roberts legacy will be the damage done to voting rights. today he struck another blow. plus -- >> it's about protecting our country from the negative forces that provoked that attack on the capitol. >> she plays politics all the time. >> despite republican efforts to sweep the events of january 6th under the rug, there will be accountability. today members of the select committee were chosen. one of them joins me.
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in a 6-3 ruling written by samuel alito, the most reliably conservative justice, the supreme court dealt another violent blow upholding two restrictive arizona voting laws. it allowed the tossing of ballots inadvertently cast in the wrong precinct. it's the latest notch in the belt of chief justice john roberts whose life work since an aide in the regan justice department has been to destroy the 1965 voting rights act. today in a decision he previewed by assigning the ruling to arch conservative alito in the first
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place, he got close to that role. justice elena kagan slammed saying the majority feared the statute congress wrote is too radical so the majority writes its own set of rules limiting section 2 there multiple directions. what is tragic here is the court has yet again rewritten in order to weaken a statute that stands as a monument to america's greatness. since roberts has been on the bench the court has eviscerated federal preclearance and gutted the intent test which prohibited states from voting practices with racist intent. nearly all of the pillars of the voting rights act have been defanged leaving the country closer to the jim crow past than the civil rights era. according to vox the rulings endorse phantom fears about voter fraud and it permits
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lawmakers to enact voting restrictions intended to debunk it. it shows you just how central the big lie has become to republican orthodoxy which is far more troubling than what this means for the future states. according to alito, they can do whatever they want as long as they don't make it obvious. the only remaining question is what will congress, specifically democrats do about it. joining me is ellie mastal and neil, former acting solicitor general. neil, i'll start with you. did you expect this? the only question was how the dfd who brought this case would lose not whether they would lose. >> yeah. unfortunately, it was an expected decision although some of the rhetoric and language in the decision goes beyond anything i feared. i had the privilege of argues
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this in 2010. we won that 8 to 1 with justice thomas being the only dissent. then four years later in sell by county the supreme court struck down that part of the voting rights act, 7-5. the court has been on a real hostility because it's cataloged it in the dissent. in one sense it's expected. in another, to have this decision say or suggest that voter fraud is like some real problems that states have a lot of leeway to solve, you can read this a lot of different ways. as a critic, as a citizen but one way we should read it is as a southern state trying to disenfranchise african-american voters. this gave a rhetoric and how to book on how to do it which is why legislation is so important. >> 100%.
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coincidentally, integrity was the reason for the jim crow laws. ellie, this is what justice alito has now said. he's written his own law which is that there are five factors that courts have to consider whether or not a law is discriminatory. when courts are faced with time, place and manner he writes, any circumstance that has a logical bearing on whether voting is equally open and affords equal opportunity may be considered, nevertheless, he provides a nonexhaustive list, five factors, the size of the burden imposed by a challenged voting rule. the degree to which a voting rule departs from the standard practice when the voting rights act was amended in 1982. the size of any disparities. the opportunities provided by a state's entire system of voting when assessing the burden imposed by a challenged provision and the strength of the state interests served by a challenged roting rule.
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states want to prevent voter fraud. >> to drop out some of the legal jargon here, alito's standard is as long as you don't say the "n" word when you are taking away people's votes, that is fine. these laws that he just held up with the help of john roberts as you explained his lifetime commitment to destroying this act, these laws were racist by empirical definition. that's not me having conjecture. these had a disparate impact on black, brown, native american voters. the plaintiffs, the state of arizona admitted these laws had a disparate impact and admitted that's why they were there. arizona said the reason why they wanted these laws was to help them win elections by depressing the vote and then the supreme
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court -- in alito's decision he says for one of the laws that allowed them to discard ballots cast in the wrong precinct, alito said 1% of african-americans and 1% of native americans and 1% of hispanic americans cast their votes in the wrong precinct and .5% cast their wrong votes. that racism wasn't enough racism to trigger the voting rights act. it must be nice to have a job where you can tell other people how much racism is real. but that's -- that's the decision. that's the upshot here. as long as you don't make it completely obvious that you're doing something with bigotry in your heart, then alito is going to let you do it. >> honestly, in case anyone thinks this is hyperbole, neil, in theory according to alito's theory, if in 1982 there were
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laws in place and you had to pass a literacy test and read a complicated passage from shakespeare to vote, he could argue that's not racist because, you know, if you -- if a white or a black person or anybody can read this complicated passage from shakespeare, they can vote. if bubbles are in a bar of soap. if that had been in place in '82 and you can't show it's a substantial difference to say guess the bubbles in the soap, those laws never said black in them. they never said race in them. they never said any race in them, they said tell us how many bubbles are in the soap and they only asked the black people to guess the bubbles n. this case in arizona, the fact that you're voting in the wrong precinct, precincts were being moved but only the black and brown precincts were being moved. you can do guess the bubbles in a bar of soap as long as you don't say black, right? >> exactly, joy. i love how you followed up on
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ellie's great point. there's two different ways of proving discrimination in the law. one is called disparate treatment, that is, you're intentionally going after someone because of a race and the other is a disparate impact. you're looking at sttistics and other things. in a modern era, almost everyone avoids the use of terms like what ellie referred to before and in state legislatures or even the president does when i was arguing this, his lawyer's defense was well it doesn't say it discriminates against muslims in the text of the order. of course not. modern discrimination hides itself through patterns and data and things like that. the question in this case is whether that would be enough. ellie, you're absolutely right. the test that's being proposed now to legitimize arizona's laws or legitimize a whole host of things which is why the conversation has to move nationally to how we get these
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voting rights act. back when i argued that voting rights case in 2010, it had been reauthorized in the congress and house by 421-3 and senate 98-0. this is the most morn thing we could imagine, the right to vote. how could it be derived? how could the supreme court be writing these? it's time for congress to act. >> of course, neil, racism no longer exists. racism is over because obama was present. therefore, 1 out of 320 million people, poof, racism is gone. by the way, so you think we're bringing up hyperbole again. florida enacted a poll tax. if you serve prison time, you have to pay a poll tax. that's legal according to justice alito. is kevin going all authoritarian on us? he threatened to retaliate
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today house speaker nancy pelosi announced the appointed members of the newly created select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the capitol. one republican will be among them. congresswoman liz cheney who's purged from house leadership for daring to oppose trump's insurrection. >> our oath to the prosecution, our duty, our dedication to the rule of law and peaceful transfer of power has to come
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above any concern about partisanship. >> according to three of our sources, house minority leader kevin mccarthy actually threatened to strip republican house members of the committee assignments if they accepted appointment from pelosi to the select committee to which congressman adam kin singer responded, who gives an s-h, you know the rest. this latest stonewalling comes as a "new york times" compilation further dramatically disrupts this attempt. >> on january 6th i never felt threatened because i didn't. i knew those were people that loved this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law. >> police lose their life. >> we've lost the line. we've lost the line. all pd get back. >> why hasn't that officer, the
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police officers around the country are routinely identified after a shooting. >> the scuffle again with a small group of officers. they gave in after a few minutes. they now have direct access to capitol entrances. >> there was no insurrection and to call it an insurrection in my opinion is a bold faced lie. if you didn't know this was a video from january the 6th, you would think it was a normal tourist visit. >> the capitol is now surrounded. >> wild tourism. joining me is congresswoman
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stefanie murphy of florida, one of the members of the select committee to investigate the attack on the united states capitol. thank you so much for being here. >> great to be with you. >> let's talk about the elephant in the room, the cheney in the room. you are going to have one republican colleague. it strikes me that it was terrible politics for kevin mccarthy to throw liz cheney out of leadership because she was criticizing the fact that our capitol was attacked and there was an insurrection. he essentially em powered her and freed her to take this role on the committee with you all. how do you expect that interaction to play out given her already very vocal stance, including on kevin mccarthy's role? >> you know, it's a real statement about where the republican party is today, that they actually threw a member of leadership out for daring to speak the truth. and i'm really proud and looking
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forward to working with representative cheney. she and i worked on the house armed services committee together and i know her as somebody who is a patriot. while we may have policy differences, she is dedicated to this country and upholding the constitution just as the other members of the select committee are. >> oh, no, adam kinsinger, they voted with trump 90% of the time. they're putting country first. here's what kevin mccarthy said about her today. >> i was shocked that she would accept something from speaker pelosi. it would seem to me since i didn't hear from her, maybe she's closer to her than us. i don't know. >> do you -- is this -- this is not tea. here are the people on this committee along with yourself, representative cheney, adam schiff who prosecuted one of the cases against donald trump impeachment. peat akalar, jamie ras kin,
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brilliant, who's involved in the impeachment and elaine luria of virginia. do you see this as teams or do you see this as an investigation meant to be sober and serious. >> this is an investigation that is sober and serious and apolitical into what happened. this is americans who love this country, who are patriotic, who are dedicated to upholding the constitution who want to get the facts about what happened on january 6th. the circumstances that led up to that so that we can provide a comprehensive report and then recommendations on how we keep our country safe and that is the utmost importance. i have an obligation to the staff who come to work here every day, to the press core who are here, to my fellow members of congress as well as to the public that come to this building to witness democracy in
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action to get the facts and ensure this never happens again, that we can secure the capitol and our democracy. >> kevin mccarthy on january 14th. do you have it? sorry about that. kevin mccarthy saying trump bears responsibility. he said trump bears responsibility for what happened. do you expect kevin mccarthy to be called? do you expect donald trump to be called and subpoenaed as witnesses? >> we are still in the organizing stages. i don't want to get ahead of the committee as to who we will call. what we have said to date is we are likely to bring in the law enforcement officers, the capitol police as well as d.c. police who were victims as well on january 6th so share their experiences and that will be one of the first hearings that we hold. we also intend to let staff as well as members share their experiences.
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at the end of the day, this committee -- this select committee is going to follow the facts wherever and to whomever they go. >> and they're going to be public hearings, right? >> there will be a combination of public and private hearings is what i anticipate. >> congresswoman stefanie murphy, thank you for being here. >> thank you. still ahead, a republican governor renting out her state's national guards troops to a billionaire donor makes her a top candidate for tonight's absolute worst. there is no one better to provide what's going through allen weisselberg's and donald trump's noggen than michael cohen, and he joins us next. areg clearer. ♪ ♪ i feel free to bare my skin yeah, that's all me. ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin, ♪ ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪
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cfo allen weisselberg is going through, it is michael cohen. he pled guilty, unlike weisselberg who at least for now says he will fight the charges. joining us is michael cohen, author of "disloyal." michael, let's start there. give us a sense of what it's like to be allen weisselberg today. >> it's probably not a good feeling, first of all. the handcuffs don't really feel great on your wrists. second of all, it's very surreal when you are being perp walked to the judge's chambers in order to hear charges that are going to be brought against you. i've often said that, you know, there's a big difference between when you're under investigation and then you're formally indicted as what i went through and what allen weisselberg is going through because the stakes are now real. before they're not real. you sit there, you walk around, you go out with your family and
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you wonder what they're going to come up with. now you know what they're coming up with and you know that this is just the tip of the iceberg. nobody -- nobody should realistically believe for a second that the indictment that came down today is the end after be all. it is not. the district attorney, cyrus vance and others have substantially more documents and more indictments will be coming as a result. >> i want to get into that more in a second. i wanted to get your reaction to this political reporting. what do you make of that? >> of course he is, right? because donald trump doesn't care. donald trump doesn't care about anyone or anything other than himself what's going to happen. all of a sudden you're going to have donald trump standing up saying, what -- it's like the shaggy song, it wasn't me. next thing you know he's going to turn around and be pointing, allen, you should have known.
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you're my cfo. understand allen weisselberg is not a cpa, he's a bookkeeper. then what they're going to do knowing frick and frack, they're going to point around to mazers, the accountant. say you knew this and you should have been warning us because that's all that they're good at is deflecting their i will legalities on to somebody else. it wasn't me, it's him. if it's not him, look at him. donald doesn't care if it's going to be al land or the accountants at mazers or someone else. it doesn't matter as long as it's not him. it's an amazing -- it's an amazing way about him, you know, where, again, he'd rather be his children than be himself. >> we had a prosecutor on earlier who said that, you know -- i think you made this point before, that there are these millions of documents, a ton of documentation that is the
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real star of this case, not necessarily weisselberg. what did he mean by that? what documents are out there and how damaging could they be? >> i know the documents because i spent more than ten occasions with district attorney so i'm very familiar and one of the things that we know that they got as a direct result of my house oversight hearing and my participating when i was still at otisville was his tax returns. there's a million pages there. we know there were documents that were taken from rudy's electronic devices that, of course, deal with donald trump and if it deals with donald trump and there's any money involved, allen weisselberg is attached to it. it's just that simple. but here's the interesting thing, i've said this on other shows now. allen is not the target. he's going to be collateral damage, but he's not the target. and he's also not the end all be
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all to this investigation. there are others who can testify to the information that the district attorney is going to need, myself included. there's that information that we can testify to that would show the illegality and the culpability by the various different individuals from alan to don jr. to ivanka to donald himself. so, you know, there's also other individuals, other executives at the trump organization that receive the same type of benefits, these -- these -- you know, apartment, these car benefits at the trump organization. matt calamari as an example. so he's not the only one that's getting it. this indictment is going to be much larger. it's going to be obviously much broader in its scope. despite the fact donald wants to sit there and say, if this is it, then they've got nothing, they have nothing, that's just
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typical donald trump talk. what he's thinking is that he's going to say it, he's going to get his lawyers who got up and they said the exact same thing. they were appealing to a party of one and he thinks that the more that people say it, the more it will become a reality but here's the truth, and we know this, joy, it's not true. the district attorney is not interested or impressed with donald's choices of counsel and it's not going to end well. you know, i've made a lot of predictions, many on this show, many on others. i've been right pretty much most of the time. it's not going to end well for any of them. >> allen weisselberg has had conversations with donald trump, been in touch with him. when you were facing this same situation, did donald trump try to induce you to stay loyal and do you think that that's a possibility here with allen weisselberg? do you think weisselberg will stay loyal to him and go to jail for him? >> so let me start with the last part. no.
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nobody wants to go to jail. it's an ugly place even if you're at otisville satellite camp, it's an ugly place. being away from your wife, being away from your children, being away from the rest of your family and your friends, it's really -- it's soul wrenching. alan is 74 years old. he has no interest in spending his golden years in any institution. remember, it's not federal, it's state. it's not as allegedly luxurious as a federal camp. on top of that, will he turn? he'll have no choice because they're also going to bring in his children because barry worked for the company and jack was involved in lending through ladder capital to the company. the answer is no. does he want to go? will he end up flipping? unless he's stupid, he'll flip. who in their right mind -- understand, donald will not go to prison if he can blame somebody else, and that's including allen. so allen has to understand, he's
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by himself. that's what happened to me. this answers the first part of your question. the last time i spoke to trump was the day of the raid. that's it. it was the -- >> yeah. >> then after that i started listening to various different people telling me that this is -- >> yeah. >> -- exactly what's going to happen and it did. >> yeah. >> he ran away from me and, you know, allowed me to -- >> to pay the price for his crimes. >> yes. >> michael cohen, always appreciate you being on the show. thank you very much. really appreciate your insights. up next, billionaires spending big bucks to shape american policies. it ush will he doesn't involve the military. tonight's absolute worst is next. lute worst is next and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is
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sending south dakota's national guard roaming. joining fellow maga desantis and the governors of iowa and nebraska in sending help to the border. 50 national guard troops are being deployed in response to greg abbott's plea for more border security for a nonexistent crisis. noem said my message to texas is, help is on the way. actually, christy, your message is i'm running for president in 2024. this is how i pander to the maga crowd to compete with greg abbott and ron desantis. yeah. abbott was paling around with orange julius caesar for photo op nonsense. the other governors are sending state law enforcement officers not national guard. it's more than the ordinary
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political pandering and fear mongering. the absolute worst is something that she slipped in at the end of her announcement, that the deployment would be paid for by a private donation, specifically money from a billionaire gop mega donor. tennessee junk car and orange man, he reached out to noem and thought south dakota had less resources. it was to alleviate the cost to south dakota taxpayers. so there you have it. this is where we've come to, america. a super wealthy political donor is paying for american soldiers to deploy on a military mission with political undertones. according to the washington post, military posse experts blasted the move. this is an affront to civilian oversight of the armed forces and likely unprecedented and
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unethical which sounds about right since no one's really sure if it's legal. but it's certainly not in the best interests of south dakotans. kristi noem, for offering up the national guard as mercenaries, you, my dear, are tonight's absolute worst. that's tonight's "reid out." tonight on "all in." >> without access to the ballot box, people are not in the position to protect any rights. >> they roll back more of the voting rights act making it harder to vote and easier to buy an election. then -- >> i'm honored to be on this committee. we have an obligation to have a thorough, sober investigation of what happened leading up to january 6th. >> we now know who will investigate the
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