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good morning, i'm stephanie ruhle reporting live from one of my favorite places on earth, the jersey shore. it is friday, july 2 and we start this morning with breaking news, the june jobs report is officially out, it shows 850,000 jobs were added last month, higher than expected. the unemployment rate ticked slightly up to 5.9%. taken together, the report shows an economy still gaining strength more than a year after the pandemic brought everything in this country to a screeching halt. yet we are still down from we were were, but look at this, since the start of the year, we've been steadily adding jobs every single month. more than 2 million since january. and this morning we're at fantasy island amusement park in
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the rain, one of the bests counting on a big fourth of july weekend.bests counting on a big fourth of july weekend. so why are there still so many open jobs? we'll dig into the economic picture, what it means for you, and getting answers from the experts including labor secretary marty walsh. but i want to start with an a all-star panel to help us break this down. doug holtz eakin is president of the miles an hour action form and former economic adviser to john mccain. and jason furman, council of economic advisers during the obama administration, john hope bryant, founder of a nonprofit focused on financial literacy. and also an economics professor at northeastern university. jason, take a look at this jobs number. what are your thoughts of where we are in the recovery? >> this was a good month for jobs. it exceeded expectations. if we can keep jobs at this pace
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and think that we can for a number of months, we'll be well on our way to repairing things. there are some mixed signals here. the labor force participation rate didn't go up. i'm not sure i believe that number because flikting data in the report. some which is noise and some which is probably wrong. wage growth moderated but remained strong. but the big picture is that there are more job openings than unemployed workers. think that that is good news for the future but we need to ask why is that the case and will it persist. >> john, what do you think, how are we doing? >> i think that this is overall good news. rainbows after storms. but i think that people don't live in statistic, they live in the real world. and no single mother with three children making $12 an hour is excited about going back to a job at poverty rate of $26,000 a
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year that doesn't reward her either financially or aspirationally. think that people are looking -- would the bottom of the economic pyramid is still looking for a second gi bill. you have thriving jobs that are clicking in with no problem. and those are winning jobs are saying we've been busy all of 2020 anyway. surviving jobs are the problem and they wonder if america will live up to the constitution in rhetoric of fairness for all. so think that this is about, yes, writing checks and cashing checks. more small business owners and more people employed, but retraining them, reinvigorating them and getting them into this
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new check century. >> retrain them for better, stronger, higher paying jobs. doug, what is your take? >> well, i think that the report in and of itself was as jason characterized it a little bit of a mixed message. i've been concerned that the labor force participation being so far below pre-pandemic levels and interesting to see what it takes folks back to work. but if you roll back the clook a year, i think that it is a fair characterization to say most people thought that we'd get an initial v shaped recovery. there was concern that there would be a longer tail to get people back to work and people into new jobs usually remembering new training, trying to find the right employer which is cost li and time consuming. we may be seeing that now. we know quits are at an all-time high. and we have people who are not going back into the labor force.
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and so i think that it is worth continuing to look to that supply side in the months to come and see if by the fall when we get back to what we think will be normal, back to school, back to the regular operation of the economy, where we are on the supply side. think that is the key. >> and the road to economic recovery is not a straight path. for honesties we worried will businesses reopen, will customers come back and will workers return. obviously there are challenge, but you want to share with you a deep dive we did in a town i am, a tourist destination, to show how they are figuring out a way to really make it happen and possibly a win for everyone. watch this. this morning business is poboomg at the beach. families eager for fun after a long year flocking to shower towns. >> just being a family for the first time in a year. >> what brings you to the shore? >> this is our first vacation
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probably since covid. >> reporter: many vacation spots already on track to have a record breaking summer. jamie loyal is a resort manager. >> it has been busier this year than previous years which is a great problem to have. >> people are ready. >> reporter: but one big challenge, finding enough staff to meet the demand. one issue a lot of employers have had is hiring workers. what has that been like? >> it is incredibly difficult. >> reporter: to find worker, he is i paing more and increasing referral bonuses. >> we're ask people to work longer hours and more daus. so the folks are really stepping up to do more. >> reporter: this summer almost 40% of small businesses are i paing employ uses more. part of an effort to staff up. and if the teams are smaller than normal, some spots are limiting hours or days open so they can be ready for the
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busiest times. and then there are teenagers. employers are hiring teens to fill those open jobs. today teenage employment is at its highest rate in more than a decked a. >> a lot of that has to do with their availability, their willingness to take a job and probably the fact that they have been cooped up for many months. >> reporter: beach businesses doing whatever they can to meet demand as americans get back out and celebrate summer. >> good feeling to got out and feel normal again and sbr act with people. >> everybody is just ready to spend time with family and spend money. >> jason, could it be a triple win for workers, they are getting more pay and more perks, businesses are seeing demand sky rock account ket and consumes are spending. >> i hope so. the united states is having the fastest economic recovery of any country in the world. it looks like that it is in
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better shape compared to europe, japan and other countries will be at the end of this year. i'm nervous. prices are doing up a lot too, so your wages are going up, prices are going up, what is happening to the less clear at t vaccines and you can have a pretty great economy. >> and we have teens at the highest employment really in the last ten years. could it be a big positive that teens are now filling the jobs that were intended for them, busing tables, low wage jobs, working in retail, maybe leaving an opening for adults to get higher skilled higher paying jobs? >> yeah, no question that teens are benefiting from the strong labor market and especially in the sectors that you were just talking about. so restaurants, retail stores,
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hotels, recreation areas. we're seeing really strong hiring in all of those places that suddenly reopened everything all at once. employers are scram bling to fill the jobs. and they are low wage, they don't have a lot of benefits, a lot of crazy schedules, not very appealing to adults. but for teens it is a way to at the time your foot in the maybe market, get? experience and a paycheck. and so for teens this is a great opportunity. >> doug, is this a labor shortage or a labor shift? we always say that people are just sitting at home they don't want to go to work.
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still with me, alisha, doug, john and jason. doug, i was asking youshortage, age or a shift? >> think that one of the things that is difficult at this point in time is that we like to talk about the economy and the lab market. and the consume are. and there are multiples. if you are in leisure and hospitality, you have been through a resgs. in streaming services, you had a boom. and so we're getting a combination of recovery and shifts at the same time. think that jason has characterized correctly the risks we face on the inflation front. will it be a durable part of the landscape and undercut the
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recovery. but certainly i think one of the rons that we're getting slower recovery is the shifting of the composition of jobs and people searching out new opportunities. we expected to some extent. >> complicated but the good news is that we are on the road to recovery. thank you all so much. we have to leave it there because we have to turn to breaking news. a senior u.s. military official confirming to nbc that american troops have now completely withdrawn from the main military base in afghanistan turning bagram airfield over to the afghan government. this as the u.s. works to withdraw all forces from the country after what has been a twoade war. and at its peak the airfield saw more than 100,000 u.s. troops pass through in 2012he soing
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more fallout from the trump organization and it cfo allen weisselberg charged with 15 counts for a 15 year scheme to defraud the u.s. government. he is accused of helping company executives avoid paying taxes by providing perks off the books in the amount of $1.7 million in fringe benefits that should have been reported as income. like rent, lease payments and private school tuition. tom winter is covering it and also the form are acting solicitor general is with us. tom, take us inside the courtroom. >> we understood generally but we had no idea the specific counts were and certainly no idea of the details contained in the indictment and still didn't even until we got the documents.
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they said grand larceny in the second degree and other offenses and you are thinking what happened here, what did he take out of trump tower? but then we began to understand how that fit in from a tax perspective as we're looking at the video right now. weisselberg had that n95 tonight mask around his face, it was difficult to get his facial expression. but this is not somebody like a michael cohen or paul manafort who was very much a public figure somebody that we have come to see on camera a lot. we didn't really have any video of him until our colleague caught up with him a month ago. so interesting to see him in person yesterday. interesting to see such a busy well, that is where the prosecutors and defense attorneys sit. you had members from the district attorney's office, you had the office of attorney general there and actual principles themselves of being cy vance and take latisha jams.
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so it was just a brief hearing yesterday. it was exactly as we would expect from an arraignment in manhattan court. so there was nothing that was kind of outside the thunderstorm except for it was the former president's best. so that is what with observed yesterday. think that it was more telling what we didn't hear in court and what we didn't see in documents. we didn't hear anything about bank fraud, insurance fraud. the millions and literally millions of pages of document documents that the district attorney's office was able to get as a result of their hard-fought supreme court battle with the trump attorneys about trump's taxes and the underlying documents, we really didn't see a lot of the other parts of this investigation that you and i have talked about so many times. it was very much focused on the specific off the books allegations and associated tax charges. evidence in thn dimt appears to
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be clear and true. all allegations at this point, but obviously what was contained is very specific. so the question, is there more. >> true and accurate will be key. remember the trump organization has a number of very big bank loans out there. when you sign on, you agree that everything that you are sharing is accurate and truthful. and the more we're learning, that might not be the case. i want to share what the trump organization's attorney told reporters yesterday. pretty stunning. watch this. >> the allegations in the indictment are just that, they are allegations. the law on compensation, on fringe benefits, is murky. it is difficult. it is complex. you can have experts disagree. >> no, it is not. it is absolutely not murky. it is very clear what is taxable income and what isn't. and even calling these fringe
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benefits, this is not a free dinner or car service after work. we're talking about getting your transportation, your housing and your education paid for. does this argument have any leg to stand on? >> it has no leg to stand on. you are absolutely right. i mean, i hire college kids and they know that if my firm paid their rent or something, of course that is taxable. and here you've got the chief financial organization of supposedly a billion dollar company saying he didn't know? i mean that did not pass the laugh test and i do think it is testing that the two defenses that the trump organization trotted out yesterday, one was that, and the other was, well, these are garden variety crimes that don't get prosecuted. they didn't really try to deny that any of this happened. instead they just said that it wasn't big enough. and i resent that notion. what then dimt says is that basically this guy stole a million dollars from the coffers of the federal and state treasuries. and if i walked into your house
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and stole $1,000 let alone a million, i'd be put in jail. here they are stealing a million dollars from the american people. it is a million dollar heist in this indictment. i don't think that it should be minimized. this prosecute those when they find out about them and put people in jail for periods of years. and one interesting question in the indictment, that stat dimt alleges a federal tax scheme. and so what are you going to do about it. >> there is a ton of tax evasion in this country which is why the biden administration is trying to put $80 billion into the irs so we can go after that tax. allen weisselberg was the most senior nonfamily member in the trump organization. are you expecting that we'll hear potentially charges just like these for trump's own kids
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especially if it relates to these kinds of perks? >> it is very possible or there could be other charges because two of trump's children actually have been running the trump organization for the years when donald trump served as president. so this is like -- this is not some company that they can claim some tangential involvement with like they did with michael cohen, i barely knew that guy or something, this is called the trump organization founded by donald trump, run by two of donald trump's kids. and as of yesterday, now that company is itself an indicted conspirator. >> and of course before he was in office ivanka trump was working in the family business for years. thank you. we'll leave it there for now. but that story isn't going anywhere. coming up next, house minority leader kevin mccarthy gets ready to name his picks for the january 6th insurrection
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developing now, search and rescue efforts are once gone under way this morning after the seethe of site of that partial
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condominium collapse as crews were forced to halt operations yesterday due to safety concerns. officials are planning to demolish the remaining partcond. and the president and first lady traveled to surfside to console family and friends. >> they had basic heartwrenching questions. will i be able to recover the body of my so that, daughter, my husband, my cousin, my mom and dad. how can i have closure without being able to bury them if i don't get the body. what do i do. jill and i wanted them to know that we're with them. >> governor desantis complimenting them for taking action so quickly and the president pledged federal funds to cover the costs of the ongoing disaster. as of this morning, 18 are confirmed dead and 145 still unaccounted for.
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and capitol hill, the house committee is wasting no tomb. the eight members holding their first meeting late yesterday. the appointment of liz cheney is drawing fierce reaction. ken mccarthy is denying reports that he threatened to strip fellow republicans of committee assignments if they accept an appointment from speaker pelosi. >> i'm not threatening anybody with committee assignments. what i'm saying is it was shocking to me that if a person is a republican, they get their commit assignments from the republican conference. for somebody to accept committee assignments from speaker pelosi, that is unprecedented. >> shocking to me that any person in government irrelevant of party wouldn't want the
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insurrection investigated. let's bring in sahil kapur. what is his next move? >> to make his five choices for the select committee. mccarthy is decliing to comment on any names being floated. but we can expect that mccarthy is highly likely to pick solid allies of former president trump. he is invested in undermining the work of the committee and staying on the former president's good side because he believes that that is his path to becoming speaker of the house some day. so those ten republicans in the house who voted to impeach donald trump you can cross them off your list. one of them liz cheney was appointed by the democrats. i would not expect the other nine to be the choice of ken kevin mccarthy.
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and he has to decide what to do about liz cheney. >> and so what is next for the committee? >> they will have to begin doing their work. on the way out of the press conference, i spoke to bennie thompson who is the house homeland security committee chair, he will be leading this panel. he said that they will go for as long as they need to. they are not setting an end date which means that it could potentially continue into 2021 # which 2022 which is an election year. and he did not commit to a format. it could be a mix of private hearings and there could be public hearings. he kept the door wide open. and yesterday i asked speaker pelosi if the committee intends on subpoenaing donald trump. she didn't say yes, but she didn't say no. >> i'm dying of embarrassment, i couldn't have a more jersey thing happening in the middle of your answer. club music started booming at this amusement park behind me. i want to bring in somebody who those a lot about club music
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in new jersey, congress ma'am scott gottheimer. you work on bipartisan stuff all the time. if leader mccarthy chooses five republicans who have no interest in moving forward with this insurrection committee with investigating it, what is the point of this thing? they will just obstruct it. >> well, first of all [ inaudible ] instead of me. but let me be clear about this when it comes to what they will do. mccarthy's jam is to look for every which way to play politics with this unfortunately. this should be something that we all see the same way. it is an attack on our democracy, an attack on democrats and republicans, an attack on law enforcement. i've sat with officer sicknick's mom this week and she took her
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head and said i just don't understand how republicans aren't all supporting this. many republicans supported the commission that are in the problem so many solvers caucus. and i don't understand whye can't hold insurrectionists accountable and move the country forward. >> let's talk where else you need bipartisan. on infrastructure. at this point speaker pelosi is saying no on the bipartisan infrastructure deal unless a big reconciliation package is lunged. but if you link it, you lose republicans. >> and what i've been saying sense we worked with our is that the colleagues, democrats and republicans, we put out a very similar proposal. we should vote on this and have an end vote. and the good news is that we have ten republicans in the
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senate that are willing to get behind it. this is a clear sign that the t address our infrastructure. >> you've got the continue republican, about you how about the democrats? >> i think that we'll get the democrats. there is no reason why you have democrats and republicans coming together showing the exact unity that i believe every american wants to so. us coming together to get it done, and we shouldn't vote on this and move forward. and that is what i'm hoping we do before the end of the summer, that we come together and get this done. there is too much on the line here. and the president wants it. >> but you also represent a very expensive state, people that pay high taxes and don't want to pay even higher ones.
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you've said to me unless president biden lifts the cap on state and local tax deduction, you are a no-go. are you still no salt or no deal? >> i'm still no salt no dice, but i think that there will be two separate packages here. i believe that we should first vote on the bipartisan physical infrastructure package, roads, rails, water, resiliency, electric vehicles. we do that first. and that is where you have democrats and republicans in both chambers coming together. and then you can have a separate vote on reconciliation. i don't know what is in that package, but i've said and i stand by it, if there are taxes in that package, salt has to be part of it. >> all right. saying let's move forward now. always good to see you, i wish it was in person. coming up next, the supreme court upholds arizona's voting restrictions.
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welcome back. the supreme court's term just and they dropped a big one on the way out. they upheld arizona's new voting restrictions scaling back the only remaining section of the voting rights act. the case split the justices along ideological lines and that is very bad news for democrats with at least 48 states having introduced restrictive voting bills nationwide especially after president biden barely won states like arizona, georgia and wisconsin. joining me now, jamie harrison.
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ourhighest court just gave a green light to restrictive voting bills. democrats barely control congress as it is. you cannot challenge the supreme court. what are you going to do about it? >> we can't sit on the sidelines saying woe is me. we have to roll up our sleeves and work. we have to do the things and as my grandma always told me, you control what you can control. you can't control the supreme court but we can get more people registered to vote. and we can educate them and get them to the polls and we will do all that we can do in order to protect them once they get there. and that is why the dnc has invested almost $45 million into strengthening our state parties, making sure that we invest in organizing but putting staff all over the country. we have to protect the rights of votes for all americans. if the supreme court won't stand
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up for it, the dnc will do all that it can to protect the right to vote for all americans. >> last year had an high school historic turnout. the efforts your party made to get people out there votingscho historic turnout. the efforts your party made to get people out there voting were huge but now these restrictive bills are out there. people care a lot less traditionally about midterms so how do you get themmen gamed. >> people need to understand that they are just as important as the presidential election. when you think about the things that legislatures passed that impact your lives, they almost have greater impact than what happens in congress and washington, d.c. so we need to register more
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voters. and we need to make sure that we invest in organizing staff on the ground so that we can reach people, communicate with them, let them know what the issues that are on the agenda in washington and why it is important for them to vote. and we have to mobilize them and get them to the polls and mack sure that they are protect -- of make sure that they are protected when they get there. so a historicalen investment to come do just that. >> and i want to ask you about those important issues. eric adamsed a a tough on crime message in new york city. now he is leading the race to be new york's next mayor. he said that the democrat being party needs to pay attention to new york or you willing in troubling.being party needs to pay attention to new york or you willing in troubling. how do you not turn off voters that you need to win? >> end of the day it is about delivering for the american people. the republican party likes to
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talk a lot. right now there are talking about defunding the police. but who really is defunding the police? the american rescue plan, we have $350 billion to go to our cities and many of those cities under the authority of president biden are using those resources to fund police departments. and guess what, not one -- >> but then how are you going -- >> not one -- >> i'm with you. but how are you going to convince the american people of that? right? you have republicans that are not supporting a commission on the insurrection which is all about law and order. but republicans have co-opted the idea that defund the police means wiping out police forces when really it enhances law enforcement. but you and i know that that message is not translating correctly across a lot of american homes. >> you know, one of the things that -- >> messaging matters. >> yes, stephanie, one of the
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things that i used to teach my kids when i was a teacher, that the most persuasive way to change the minds of folks, you have to show and not tell. and that is what we are going to do in the democratic party. it is not about the rhetoric. it is about showing in our actions. showing in our policies. and making sure that we message the heck out of it once we deliver. and so that is what you've seen in the dnc, to go out there and show the policies of joe biden and how they impact families and communities across this country. and we are talking about it. bill boards. i mean this weekend, we have planes flying over beaches that they are talking about democrats delivering. we even have an ice cream truck talking about shots in arms. we'll use every creative measure that we can to deliver for the miles an hour people and to know sho them that only one party is standing up for them and that is theic party.ws from the
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supreme court. pete williams is joining us. >> the court is declining to weigh in on the issue of whether businesses have a right to refuse ser vus for same-sex wedding ceremonies. remember, this court dodged this issue three years ago in the case of the colorado baker. it came back in an appeal brought by a florist who would not make a floral arrangement for two men for that are wedding ceremony. she said that it is a southern baptist, it would violate her religious beliefs and her relationship with jesus christ. she lost in the lower courts, appealed to the supreme court a couple times. this is the second time her case has come back and again the supreme court has refused to hear the case. so it leaves the lower court ruling against her in place. this issue is still percolating. probably going to come back again maybe later. >> all right. pete williams, thank you. now back to our lead story of
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the you today, the june jobs report showing that our nation is continuing to be on an xhk economic recovery, the president expected to address the report in the next hour. but we're getting the administration's reaction before that. i want to bring in u.s. labor secretary marty walsh. secretary, your reaction to the june jobs report. >> it is a good strong solid report. we're happy to see -- i'm hear to see 800,000 jobs gained here. obviously strongest areas is hospitality. and we're seeing some moderate job growth -- i mean wage growth which is great as well. so overall it is a good report. we know that there is work to do, but it shows that president biden's economic plan has been working since the president has been in office. he's added about 600,000 jobs per month which is a good sign for our country and coming out of the pandemic. >> secretary, the last time you and i spoke you said that you did not see worker shortages as
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a problem. you did not believe enhanced unemployment benefits were keeping people home. but since then, more than 24 states have dropped enhancement unemployment benefits, the white house is sort of changing its stance saying that states got to do what they want to do. have you changed your view? >> no, i haven't. and i anticipated this question would come to me today so we looked at the states where they either dropped or are threatening to drop the unemployment extended beefit and we're not seeing a reduction people looking into work. so we'ring no correlation between dropping it and people going back into the job market. we haven't seen it in the last month. >> do we necessarily have to look at drop in benefits as a bad thing? it is a great thing that for many, man months of suffering, we're actually recovering quick quicker than we thought. can that money be used in other
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ways to impact people in places that they need it? >> actually i believe that they need it in expanded unemployment, they need to keep food on the table, to keep a roof over their head. this has ban a difficult year for a lot of people. a lot of folks that were on unemployment, they lost their job. man americans didn't lose that are job during the band. companies were able to adjust to telework and keep them on the payroll. this way able to keep their pekss, their 401(k)s, that are health care and mlions of americans lost their job completely and they did not know what the future would bring. so that $300 is helping families got through this band. there is a couple more months left of the extension of the benefits and it looks like that it is loon inglining up -- it w at the right time because the president's plan was to have it through the month of september with the anticipation that our economy would come back and people would go back to work and what the president laid out we're seeing it in real time.
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>> so why do you think we have so many open jobs? >> we're still coming out of a pandemic. you think that if you look at the last six months and the president's economic plan, you look at the american rescue plan, and you look at the amount of people being vaccinated, as more and more people get vaccinated, as more money goes back into industries, we will hopefully see that number grow in a good pace over the next two or three, four months. >> given that we are clearly and it is good news on the road to recovery, and we have over trillion dollar bipartisan proposal for infrastructure package, do you need to push more spending through beyond that right now? i'm talking about the human infrastructure package. >> yeah, you wouldn't look at it as spending. i'd look at it as investment in human infrastructure. there are clearly gaps. the unemployment rate right now in the black community is 9.2%, latino is 7.4%.
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and there are lots of opportunities for us to create an equal economy for all people. there is money in there for for job training and apprentice programs and fors adult care, child care in our educational system. n our educational system investments that are long-term and forward-looking investments that we're going to be making here to continue to move our country forward. >> all right, secretary walsh, thank you for joining me it is clear workers are in demand, but it's important to remember that opportunities are notrt equal for every american. ifo visited one very special ple here on the jersey shore looking into changing that. zachary applegate loves getting upeg early for work. >> how are you doing? >> good, and you? >> good. >> reporter: at age 28, he got a job at compassion cafe, a pop-up coffee shop on the jersey shore that gives adults with disabilities anlt opportunity t
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work and earn a paycheck. what's your favorite part about thisab job? >> i always like to make everybody happy when they come in. >> reporter: it allha started wn erip sharkey and her aunt noticed there were few job opportunities fore many americs with disabilities so they decided to change that. >> business wise our model doesn't make sense, but our model isn't to benefit profit wise. it's to provide meaningful paid employment to everybody who steps through our door andme sa that they're interested. >> reporter: zachary, robin, adam and grace, they're just a few of the 50 employees who are working at the nonprofit cafe this summer. >> i'm so happy they hired me here and look at here. it's fun. >> you're getting a paycheck. >> i'm going to save it for my first concert. >> reporter: what concert? >> samsung concert. >> reporter: relying on donations from the community and a space from the local ice cream shop employees are paid $12 an
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hour. beyond the paycheck, erin sees the cafe as a steppingstone, giving these teens and adults practical skills for other jobs and showing the world what they can do.at >> it reaches so many more than just the employees, because it gives them hope. >> reporter: sarah regimente drove an hour and a half to check out the cafe hoping one day her 11-year-old daughter could work at a place like this. >> we don't know what her future holds and she needs opportunities like this to learn skills to give back to the community. >> it might be a lesson for es employers, too. you have employees that can't move quickly. >> yes. >> reporter: but they can move with heart,r: with the best of intentions. is that a lesson for all of us? >> yes. like that's their way of showino like hey, the little grace and a little patience, you can get really today coffee and incredible service. >> reporter: as for the future?e >> i truly believe it's going to change the employment industry. i think t we're going to change the world and'r we're going to
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start in beach haven and who knows where it's going to end up? >> wake up, employers. there is a workforce waiting. that is a business model that i think works. joining me msnbc columnist -- i'm sorry. liz plank and rebeck i can coakley, c disability rights officer for the ford foundation. i get so worked up. those were some extraordinarier that people. 80% of people in the united states with disabilities aren't working. we have a worker shortage. is this an opportunity for us to reimagine our workforce? >> it's an opportunity for us to reimagine our biases around how wero hire. the americans with disabilities act is 31 years old. the individuals with disabilities education act is approaching its 50th birthday. there is a qualified base of people with disabilities looking for employment all the time, but especially now. at the height of the pandemic,
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the disabled workers unemployment rate reached 18.9% compared with 14% of non-disabled people and even now, that appointment rate of people withno disabilities is twice that of our non-disabled counterparts. >> my friend, liz planck, what do you think? >>, happy disability pride mon. thank you for this report. i think people with disabilities have so much to be celebrating. people without disabilities have some work to do. i think that ableism just makes people it's not just morally wrong but makes people make bad financial ledecisions.fi there's a myth hiring people with disabilities cost you co money, they're somehow a cost to the acompany. what we find there's a 2018 accenture report i encourage everyone to read ifre you're an employer especially. companies that create inclusive work spaces for people with disabilities thatr bring those people into the workforce, into their own companies have increases in their revenues up
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to 28% and to your point, stephanie, about the workforce at large, if we were to bring in only 1% more people with disabilities into our workforce, we would see the gdp increase by $25 billion. this is not5 small potatoes. this is compassion cafe is doing its part but if every employer were to just increase the number of people with disabilities that they hire by 1%, you would see just the effects would be so huge for our company, for our economy at large. >> and rebecca, how do we take steps towards this? every day we talk about low wage jobs. we can't find people to fill them. there's high turnover rate. ins this community, you have tremendous job loyalty. do we need to do retraining for employers? >> we need to do serious retraining for managers. we need re-branding of websites. there should not be a company out there that has a diversity statement that does not include disabilities. there should not be a company
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out there that is operating a website not compliant with the ada. there is such an opportunity to meet people where they are, and you know, hearing the mother talk about bringing her daughter to the cafe so she could see people like her in that work environment, iwo ended up worki in the obama white house because when i was growing up, i saw eeoc commissioner paul steven miller and he took me around places with him growing up, so i had the expectation that i could work in washington, that i could work on presidential campaigns and i could work in the white house. just that expectationship matters but it doesn't work unless employers are willing to unpack their biases. >> well, you both really matter and all the work you do does. i need to leave it there because compassion cafe closes at 11:00 and i want to go get some breakfast. that wraps up this busy hour here in beach haven, new jersey. i am stephanie ruehl. chris jansing picks up coverage
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