tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC July 3, 2021 1:00pm-2:00pm PDT
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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. the white house with a big push right now, america's back. president biden in michigan, vice president harris in nevada, to send a message that the recovery is moving into high gear. the former president on the road for a rally where the big question is how he's going to address the indictment of the company that bears his name and his chief financial officer who everyone thinks will not stand by his boss. >> and i can tell you that the feel of handcuffs behind your back, it is not comfortable nor is it sitting there and having your photograph taken. now, allen could be, you know, a
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tough guy for donald, which is what we all wanted to be. that's when you are being investigated, but it is a whole other story now once you are being indicted. >> so also ahead, democrats, they're ready to go to work to get to the truth about january 6th. they're just waiting to see what the republican sidle do next to try to derail things. >> it is like they've got amnesia. this was one of the worst days in our country's history. it was an attack on our democracy. it should be a bipartisan commission, that's on the house and the senate. it should be totally objective. people won't agree to it. you can't get amnesia about the pictures you are showing right now. our lives were threatened. people came to the hill to kill us. plus, the demolition of the building that collapsed in florida set to happen in a matter of hours with more than 100 people unaccounted for. i will talk to an expert about that ahead. i want to start with the president's trip to michigan and his message that the country is ready to celebrate its intsds
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independence from covid. we have mike memoli who is traveling with the president and daniel lippman who is with us. mike memoli, good to talk to you. how is it going so far there? >> reporter: well, yasmin, this is a day where we actually haven't heard much from the president. this is a day the white house is letting the pictures tell the story. you can see i'm at the national cherry festival here in travers city. it is the first day of the festival, a festival cancelled last year because of the pandemic. today it is drawing hundreds of people to the area from all over northern michigan. the president spent most of his day actually at a cherry farm not far from here, picking some cherries himself, picking up some to take home with him. the message, of course, is that, yes, they set the 70% goal of having adults get one single vaccination at least. didn't hit it quite as they had hoped by the 4th of july, but
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clearly the fact that the country has returned to a pre-pandemic, almost sense of normalcy, is really seen as success by the white house. you have the president here, the first lady in maine and new hampshire today, talking about how great it was to be able to be back together. the vice president today also in nevada, touting not just the success in getting to this point of the country reopening again, but also pushing their infrastructure plan there. we did just in the last few moments though hear from the president on another matter. he was asked about the latest ransomware attack that just hit a number of companies over the weekend. take a listen to how the president addressed that issue. >> the idea, first of all, we're not sure who it is for certain, number one. what i did, i directed the full resources of the government to assist in a response if we determine. what else you need? >> reporter: oh, nothing. you're all set. >> okay. and the fact is that i directed
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the intelligence community to give me a deep dive on what has happened, and i'll know better tomorrow. and if it is either with the knowledge of and/or a consequence of russia, then i told putin we will respond. >> reporter: did you tell him already, sir? >> no, no, i haven't called, because we're not certain. the initial thinking was it was not the russian government, but we're not sure yet. >> reporter: now, yasmin, it is interesting. when the president was overseas in geneva when he met with vladimir putin he was asked on the way home issues dealing with infrastructure and the vaccination situation here at home when he would rather have focused on the meeting. here today he is in michigan touting the success of the vaccination program, our bouncing back in the recovery and he is being asked about russia. just a sign that the job of president and some of the issues that travel with you are often not necessarily what you are
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focusing on at the time, but it is the nature of the job, yasmin. >> it seems to happen quite often, memoli, doesn't it, in that the president is trying to celebrate something and he is always asked about something that it seems to be going wrong. but he did curb his annoyance this time around as he was not necessarily able to do as he was leaving that meeting with vladimir putin. nbc's mike memoli in travers city, michigan, thank you. we had technical difficulties with daniel lippman. we apologize to the audience and to daniel as well. did want to talk to him. former president trump holding a rally in florida days after his cfo and his company were indicted. prosecutors say weisselberg used his position to get out of paying taxes on $1.7 million in income. both he and the trump organization pled not guilty. i want to bring in ali vitali who is following this for us. thanks for joining us on this. what are we expecting to hear from the former president today and what specifically about the
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indictment? >> reporter: yeah, yasmin. it is highly likely we are going to hear about the indictment, those criminal charges that were finally filed this week. last weekend we were talking about how they were coming. they were not mention at the former president's last rally last weekend in ohio, but certainly now that we're here a trump aide tells me the way the former president is likely to frame it is that this is an example of a justice system that's been politicized against him. of course, that's not what is going on here. it helps him as he continues to tease a potential future run for president and as he continues to remain deeply ensconced in republican politics. it helps him on the legal front the theory cements to go he can try to argue these are political probes in nature. the reality, of course, as you saw all of the charges listed in the indictment, both against trump's organization as well as the cfo allen weisselberg, that's going to continue on, of course. at the same time though this rally is going to be really a continuation of the themes that we've heard from the former president in recent weeks, but
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also over the course of the last few months and years. it doesn't seem thematically like much is going to change. certainly he is also going to talk about the surfside building collapse. we are in the state of florida. though his team was quick to point out after some back and forth about whether or not the rally should be held at all in light of the tragedy, his team was quick to point out we are on the other side of the state, several hours away. this rally won't impact any of the recovery efforts. that being said, they say they are collecting funds for relief efforts and the families that are impacted there. but by and large, yasmin, this is going to be your typical trump rally. not necessarily much new here by way of substance, but certainly a lot of revival talk about lying about the 2020 election, reviving claims of cancel culture, a lot of things we have heard before. >> nbc's ali vitali for us in sarasota, florida. thank you, good to see you once again. we are learning more today about what led to the explosive charges against the trump organization and its cfo allen weisselberg. his former daughter-in-law
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jennifer weisselberg said she realized something was not right when she couldn't get the numbers to add up in her divorce proceedings. she provided documents to prosecutors ahead of the announcement of the 15-count indictment. she spoke earlier to nbc. >> i think they had books that are not electronic. i think the ledger was probably something that allen wanted to make sure he indicated the actual -- he's meticulous. i was actually shocked by that. you know, it looks like indictment 13, it doesn't say specifically but it looks like it is about barry and the apartment that we shared and an apartment that he had in 2018. but, no, the 15 indictments were absolutely provable by my documents and then the ledger backed it up. >> all right. i want to bring in former assistant da from manhattan, rebecca roiphe, now a new york law school professor, and jill
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wine-banks, former prosecutor and msnbc contributor. welcome to you both. rebecca, i want to start with you on this one. i want to play some sound of sam nunberg who was on msnbc last night. let's listen. >> allen is the highest paid executive who is not a lawyer at the trump organization, and he is paid even more than some of the kids. i would be very surprised and therefore i think if vance and his crackpot team really thought this was going to do it, it is not there. they may get a pound of flesh and allen may be found guilty, but if people think it is going to come and now donald trump will be frog marched where jeffrey epstein was, i don't see it. >> so nunberg doesn't see it. give me your reaction to that, rebecca. >> well, you know, i think that this indictment doesn't read like it is the last chapter. i don't think it reads like weisselberg is the main character. i think that, you know, there is
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more to come. i mean whether it comes in the form of an indictment, whether they can prove these actual charges, that remains to be seen. but certainly, you know, this indictment told a story. as you said, it is a story of funneling, you know, millions of dollars in unreported compensation to weisselberg and other executives. trump's, you know, fingerprints are sort of on this. i don't -- you know, it doesn't seem as if this is the last thing that the da's office is going to do in this regard. so we just have to wait and see. but, you know, to me it really looks like an incredibly strong indictment. these are serious charges. you know, the consequences of them remain to be seen, but these are very serious charges that the manhattan da could not ignore. if you come across this kind of evidence as a district attorney, you bring those charges. so i think this resists the accusation that this is politically motivated because it is such serious charges and it is well-backed up, at least it
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seems that way in the indictment. >> rebecca, you actually said that donald trump's hands, you know, they're sort of on this, right. the question is are they on this, right? the question is how connected, how knowing was he of how all of this went down? and so much of what we've all been talking about over the last couple of weeks leading up to these charges is whether or not weisselberg would actually flip on donald trump and these charges were, in fact, a way, an incentive to get him to do just that. if he does not do that, is it doa? >> so, you know, i think you are absolutely right to point to his intent. i think it is pretty clear that his fingerprints are on the actions. i mean he signs the checks, he signed the lease. so he was involved. the question was, was he intentionally involved, did he know what was going on, did he know what was actually being reported and how. i think, you know, it is hard to prove those questions without
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having a cooperating witness. that is not to say it is impossible, but it is really hard to do. so the main question is would the d.a. bring charges without a cooperating witness on trump's intent, and i don't think so. you know, i think this is the kind of case where you need somebody to say, especially because he doesn't use e-mail and he doesn't use text messages, to say, you know, this is what he knew and this is what he intended. but that said, you know, there were these other executives involved. there was, you know, a second set of books and records. who was that for, right? who was being enriched by this scheme. it really doesn't seem like it was allen weisselberg alone. it was directed at him. you know, there are just two questions. there's a question of what actually happened and what can be proved. >> so i think some of the main things we need to talk about is how it is going to affect donald trump, the children as well, and then the organization. so i first want to address the
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children. i want to play some sound of eric trump on news max. >> are you concerned they may send an indictment your way, your brother's way, your sister's way? >> you know what, i'm not, eric. guess what? we have lived amazingly clean lives. believe me, if they could have they already would have. that's what they wanted. that was their end goal. >> should he be worried, jill? >> he should be worried given the language of the indictment, and i agree with rebecca that it is very clear and it is an easy to prove case against the people charged. so the only question is how many other people, and it is clear that other employees benefitted. that could include the children. there was money paid so that it was not only off the books but was treated as compensation for work done for other companies, and that's what certainly happened with ivanka trump where she got a huge consulting fee,
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three-quarters of a million dollars in addition to her samary. they should be worried that they will be charged with the same things weisselberg has been charged with. you are still left with the question can the prosecutors prove that donald trump knew when he signed those checks that they were off book, that they weren't being reported as compensation, that the company was avoiding paying payroll taxes, that the employees were avoiding paying any taxes and not reporting that as income even though they clearly were income that should have been reported. that's what we have to wait and see in terms of the documents like the tax returns of donald trump and all of the other things. and there is, i think, one cooperating co-conspirator, someone who benefited who may be cooperating. that's what we need to wait and see. you know, we can guess all we want. we aren't going to know until the facts come out.
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grand jury testimony is secret, so we don't know what the prosecutors know. >> i want to read something that glen kevinner said predicting this case will lead to more indictments and possibly the demise of the trump organization, saying, if the trump organization is convicted banks will not loan it money. what do you make of this? if not for the fall of donald trump, would this be the fall of the trump organization? also, considering how much money we know from financial statements that have been leaked in reporting to "the new york times" specifically he owes. >> so i think that we should be a little bit more cautious than that. i'm not absolutely sure this is the death knell for the company. it is called the corporate death penalty, but it is a different kind of company with a different kind of structure. based on what i have heard from banking experts i have spoken to, there are two questions.
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one is the question of outstanding loans and the other is future loans. i think we're more -- the trump organization is more in a danger zone with regard to the latter. that, you know, in terms of drawing down more loans from these banks, they have to make certain representations, and the organization may not be able to make those representations in the future. so to the extent that the organization continues to rely on these kinds of loans, it really could create a problem. but i think it is a little premature to suggest, you know, that the company is going to roll over and die at this particular moment because, first of all, we don't know what are in the covenants with regard to those loans. second of all, it doesn't seem like at this moment they're going to call their loans, which is what -- call the outstanding loans, which would be what would cause the immediate death of the organization. >> jill, final question to you here. was this the right strategy by the manhattan d.a., the right strategy and the right timing? >> i think it is. everybody was anxious for much
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more so that the american public is probably disappointed in not having had a bigger indictment, but i think that there is plenty of clues in this indictment that more is to come. i am more in favor of what glenn kirschner said in terms of the future. this is a company that depends on loans, and it depends on being able to roll them over. so not being able to get future loans could destroy them. they also rely heavily on liquor licenses that for an indicted company can be withdrawn. and if they don't have liquor licenses, how are their clubs going to survive? how are any of their casinos going to survive? so i think that there could be serious damage to the corporation, not just from criminal conduct but because of the fact of the indictment. and if they are convicted -- and as i said earlier, i really think that the evidence set forth in the indictment means
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that this is a case where without any insiders testifying you will be able to have a conviction just based on what they've proved in the indictment. so i think there's criminal problems for the company and possibly for other employees including his children, and there are definite financial consequences to the company just from the fact of the indictment. this may be a way to show other people besides weisselberg that they have to cooperate because otherwise they will be facing the same thing. >> let me leave folks with a quote from david fromm in the atlantic titled "trump is preparing for the worst. everybody expects you to say that you're confederate, you didn't do anything wrong. it is the thing that an innocent person would want to say and it is kind of a tell when it goes unsaid. thank you both. appreciate it. tomorrow i will be joining by a woman we have been talking about who turned over documents to prosecutors in the case,
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jennifer weisselberg, ex-daughter-in-law of allen weisselberg, joins me live at 3:00 p.m. you don't want to miss the conversation. still ahead, everybody. surfside concerns. the news today, the demolition of the collapsed condo building in florida is set to begin in hours. this as residents of other buildings in the area worry about whether they're safe. after the break we will get perspective from a local architect who worked on numerous projects in the area. plus, insurrection amnesia. the party divide over investigating the january 6th riot and what it means for the newly minted commission. we will be right back.
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in surfside officials are expected to hold another press conference within the next hour. this morning we learned demolition workers plan to bring down the remainder of the building on sunday amid potential hazardous conditions brought on by tropical storm elsa. >> that the building is taken down, this will protect our search and rescue teams because we don't know when it could fall over. and, of course, with these gusts potentially, you know, it would create a really severe hazard. >> so all of this is coming as "the washington post" reports the developer of a luxury miami beach high rise next to champlain towers south was offering to pay $400,000 to the condo association amid complaints to the proximity of the building. it has given us insight into
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concerns raised about the building prior to the collapse. joining me to talk about it, kobi karp, founder and principle, and known for his work in surfside. break it down for us because there's a lot of fear about the high rise like champlain towers. we've heard evacuation of another building in miami-dade because of fears that building could come down. talk about how the buildings are erected, the safety measures they have to go through. >> number one, thank you for having me here. my best wishes and my prayers go with the family and the neighbors of which our friends and our family live in buildings there, in neighboring buildings. many of the existing structures we have here in florida basically are built in the same
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period of time, in the '80s, in the '70s and the '60s before hurricane andrew. as you saw during hurricane andrew we really riled up in florida to put the code in what the institution requires as far as the florida building code going forward, and that changed drastically for the buildings that we build today. but the buildings that were built and the homes that were built before hurricane andrew were built under a different code. so the 40-year inspection or what the mayor now is putting forward that we must quickly put together the engineering reports and do the forensic engineering to the buildings to really see the conditions that they're this is very, very critical and important for everybody who lives in the community. as we are now seeing that some of these buildings have been very well maintained, and yet some of these buildings for whatever reason were not
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maintained. >> what about this idea of faulty design, faulty construction in we think back to the 2018 inspection report, that much has been reported on, talking about this faulty design of the pool area and how it should have been constructed on a slope, not a flat surface? we also know of a report of a woman calling her husband around 1:30 in the morning right before the building collapsed saying there was a sink hole in the pool. we don't know why this building came down, but a lot of things are pointing to the pool area. how does something like that happen? how does a faulty design, faulty construction get through? >> so i think you are 100% correct. we at this point do not know what caused this specific building to come down. the engineers, the forensic engineers hopefully will let us know in the next few weeks and
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months. the bottom line is that what was discussed previously about the concrete being flat generally speaking when we pour concrete we pour concrete on a slope to let the water drain off. it is not only for buildings, it is even for balconies that you walk on, on a daily basis, we want the water to shed off. obviously for whatever reason in this report in 2018, it notes that was not the case, which allows for the water, and specifically here in the tropics our water has a high quantity of salt because we are on the ocean, and then the salt settles down into the concrete which then settles down into the steel itself. that is a very important point because as the steel corrodes, it corrodes a little bit in the beginning, but then exponentially greater and faster with time. so time is the most valuable commodity that we have. as you saw in the report and other discussions, folks were
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discussing the weakening or the greater destruction that was ongoing. >> all right. kobi karp for us. great to talk to you. thank you. coming up, the battle over the january 6th commission. the waiting game over which republicans will be appointed to join the committee. democratic congressman ted lieu joins me live after the break. e. there's an america we build and one we discover. one that's been tamed and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure. ♪ ♪ you get both. introducing the wildly civilized all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l. ♪ ♪
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take a listen to this. >> i'm not making any threats about committee assignments, but as you know how congress works, you get elected by your district and you get your committees from your conference. i don't know in history where someone would go get their committee assignments from the speaker and expect them to have them from the conference as well. let me be very clear. i'm not threatening anybody with committee assignments. what i'm saying is it was shocking to me that if a person is a republican, they get their committee assignments from the republican conference. for somebody to accept committee assignments from speaker pelosi, that's unprecedented. >> sounds like a threat to me. joining me is democratic congressman from california, ted lieu. thank you for joining us. sound like a threat to you? >> thank you for your question. it is a bizarre threat because what we're seeing is unprecedented bipartisanship. speaker pelosi went out and appointed a republican member on to this select committee.
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that should be commended. she could have chosen a democrat in her place but she did not. so i don't really understand why republican leader kevin mccarthy is complaining. he still gets to recommend his five spots for this bipartisan select committee on the january 6th insurrection. >> i do want to remind folks, too, congressman, that kevin mccarthy refused to strip marjorie taylor greene of her committee assignments, instead forcing the house to do it. >> that's right. you see the radicalization of the republican caucus. you have the radical right and they believe all of these bizarre conspiracy theories. kevin mccarthy instead of rejecting the theories, he is tolerating them. we had to force marjorie taylor greene off the committees with a vote when he simply could have removed her and he chose not to do that. >> let's talk about the
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committee selection process here. you have a 13-member committee, eight selected by speaker pelosi. we know of the eight. five selected after consultation with leader mccarthy as you just mentioned. talk to me about the possible names you see being a part of the five coming from consultation with mccarthy. >> this select committee is based on the way the benghazi select committee was formed. so kevin mccarthy will recommend a list of members to speaker pelosi, but only speaker pelosi still decides who to appoint. if kevin mccarthy for example wants to put on republican congressman andrew clyde, who said the january 6th insurrection was just like, quote, a normal tourist visit, speaker pelosi doesn't have to have him on the committee. this will be in consultation with -- speaker pelosi will consult with kevin mccarthy and then we'll see who the members are. >> congressman from georgia who said it was like tourists
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visiting the capitol. if you were there on that day, you know those were no tourists. congressman, i want to get your thoughts on the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan while i have you, and america's commitment to support afghan forces financially after the withdrawal. talk to me about how some critics are saying this could feasibly fall into some sort of anarchy as did iraq did -- as did iraq after the withdrawal. >> i served on active duty in the u.s. military. we have the most amazing, best military in the world. at the same time our military is not designed to prop up governments. it is not designed to run countries. we've been in afghanistan for over 20 years. it is time to leave. the former president wanted to leave. i'm glad that president biden is going to be finishing this task. we can't solve the problems of afghanistan for them, the afghan government and their people have to do that. we can certainly provide them
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financial resources. we can provide them air power if they need it, but at the end of the day the afghan people and their government are going to have to fix their own problems. >> california congressman ted lieu, thank you. good to see you this afternoon. have a happy 4th of july. i want to bring in my panel to break the politics surrounding the january 6th committee. joining me brendan buck, former communications adviser to former house speaker paul ryan and partner at seven letter, and former congresswoman donna edwards and "washington post" contributing columnist. welcome to you both. thanks for joining us. i want to start with you, brendan, play sound of congresswoman dingle's response to the committee. she spoke with ali velshi earlier. >> i was on the floor when they were helping to bar the doors and put benches and everybody was scared that day when it was happening. quite frankly, those of us that were on the floor and then in an
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undisclosed location couldn't even see what was happening outside the capitol. they were as scared asy've got . this was one of the worst days in our country's folks think it might be amnesia, however, amnesia is not a choice. a lot of these folks are making the choice to think this way about january 6th post insurrection. how do you think it will hurt republicans in the long run? >> obviously we can talk about right or wrong. i mean obviously, you know, if you were -- if you were in the building that day, you were a target. you would think that you would want to get to the bottom of what happened and understand why it happened and, you know, make sure it never happens again. but this is also a political decision here. republicans made the political decision that they need to basically white wash, memory hole what happened that day, that it is one of the biggest liabilities republicans face to taking back the majority, which is their number one goal. so, you know, i think there was
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a period of time, you know, maybe in the week after this happened that there could have been true bipartisanship going -- looking into this. but obviously what happened was republicans looked around and saw that the former president is trying to whitewash this. their voters don't really think it is a problem. you know, some of our -- you know, my party struggles sometimes to get out of its own echo chamber where this wasn't a bunch of trump supporters. this was maybe the fbi or leftist activists. so they don't see this as a problem. the problem is we can't win back the majority, you can't be a national party if you are only playing to the basin side the echo chamber. where we've been losing people for elections in a row now is educated suburban voters who think the party has gone crazy. when we have people -- >> right. >> -- defending what happened there, down playing what happened there, it only plays into the notion we look crazy and we won't be able to make back those voters we lost. i think it is immoral. >> yeah. >> also i question the politics.
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>> i was going to say, it doesn't help that effort. it doesn't help the effort to win back those voters. and the only way they would have been able to form a bipartisan january 6th select committee would have been literally in the two hours post-insurrection when they stood on the floor as mitch mcconnell did, calling out the president of the united states for inciting the insurrection at the time. it seems like as time passes, the more and more this amnesia as debbie dingell puts it, sets in. donna edwards, talk to me about liz cheney's appointment, right. because congressman ted lieu just said it, it is a bipartisan appointment on the part of nancy pelosi in appointing liz cheney to this january 6th select committee. what do you think it does to the optics of this committee and the findings of this committee to have liz cheney a part of it? >> well, i think for one nobody can question liz cheney's conservative bona fides.
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i think her service on the committee will be one of a patriot, and she will end upsiding with democrats on a lot of the requests for information and for testimony because, as she has stated, she thinks it is important for the nation to get to the bottom of what happened. you know, my mother used to say it all comes out in the wash, and the wash is going to be the testimony, the evidence that will be gathered to really get to the bottom of the before, during and after of january 6th. liz cheney is going to be an important component of that because republicans will not be able to say creditably that this is a completely partisan exercise. frankly, if you look at the other members who are appointed by the speaker, these are serious members. they bring, you know, a lot of -- >> right. >> -- value to this committee. i think coupled with liz cheney, it is going to be an important
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search for the truth. >> guys, let's bring up element three, stating the names of the folks right now that have been appointed so far, the picks by house speaker nancy pelosi. as we do, brendan, i want to talk about the five picks that mccarthy has a say in alongside nancy pelosi. i kind of tried to urge congressman ted lieu to come up with some names as to possibilities he could see. i feel like you might have more insight as to the strategy here for mccarthy. we know that pelosi could literally say no, that person cannot be a part of the select committee. how do you suspect mccarthy is going about this? >> well, i actually don't think mccarthy was going to name any members until liz cheney agreed to serve on the committee. i think the original goal was to just say we're not going to legitimize it by naming people. now that obviously is no longer viable. so i think the first and foremost what he is looking for are people who are talented at this type of sparring. but really the job is going to be to run interference. so when i think of people who
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have done that successfully for republicans, i'm thinking like a jim jordan or an elise stefanik. basically the job is going to down play what happened, and that requires being able to, you know, a lack of shame frankly. so i think someone like a jim jordan who really only cares about defending the president, defending the party and fighting -- fighting politics will be front and center. he is really the sort of mad dog of house republicans. so i suspect jim jordan and probably elise stefanik will be on the committee. >> that's interesting, donna edwards, and i want you to react to some of the names because having them to be part of the select committee would be interesting. in a way, it would be them legitimizing the january 6th committee and the insurrection. i mean they are the most pro-trump of trump supporters in congress right now. >> well, and we did have the experience of both jim jordan
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and elise stefanik on the judiciary committee and through the impeachment process where they played the role of trump defender extraordinaire. i don't think it is going to matter. i think given the makeup, democrats having majority control of the committee, i think they're going to dictate a lot of the terms, and republicans will be making noise while democrats are going to be -- and liz cheney are going to be producing evidence. so, you know, it is going to look like a side show on one side and a search for truth on the other. >> got it. donna edwards, brendan buck. have a happy 4th. thanks for joining us on this saturday. still ahead, national guard troops and a basketball star. my head scratcher and high five of the week. you don't want to miss it coming up next. ss it coming up next. ♪ when technology is easier to use...
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richardson after test:00 positive for marijuana. take a listen. >> the rules are the rules. and everybody knows that the rules are going in. whether they remain that, that that should remain the rules is a different issue. but i was really proud of her the way she responded. >> so richardson, a gold medal favorite in the women's 100 meters was suspended for one month, putting her tokyo appearance in doubt. concerns about the delta variant and its spread have not hit visitors to mount rushmore where business is booming this independence day weekend. and that is where we find cal perry on the ground. cal, great to see you on this fourth of july weekend. a better place this time around. what are you seeing and hearing. >> absolutely. >> on the ground, cal, there? >> well, happy fourth of july weekend to you, yasmin. it's great to hear your voice. this place, as you said, is boomtown america. business is up 150% year over year.
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and this place had a business sort of boom last year. president trump came here around the july 4th weekend, as our viewers will remember. and that was a 40% bump year-over-year. really record numbers here. the one problem we are hearing about is a labor shortage. it's hard to find workers. we're seeing this all across the country. but this is a town that relies on tourism. we talked about that yesterday. take a listen. >> tourism is our fuel, you know. that's everyone's livelihood. and 80% of the business is our seasonal businesses. it's so important. >> are people happy to be back out? >> absolutely. >> what are you hearing from customers? >> yeah, i think everybody felt pent up. everybody has a new freedom this year, kind of a new lease on life. i think feeling like we're all on a little bit of a lockdown, your priorities shift. and getting out and getting some play time and spending time with each other has really become the new priority. and so being able to be part of an area that allows you to do that and feels safe and secure, we're blessed to be part of it.
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>> you know, yasmin, that last business owner you heard from runs basically a tent rv park. they're up 300% year-over-year. she is booked until next year. we are seeing record numbers in south dakota. >> so a lot of folks obviously out wanting to celebrate the fourth of july weekend. i was out reporting yesterday. they're really psyched to be out and about after a year and a half of lockdown. but despite every decision made amidst this time, it becomes political. even the display fireworks at mount rushmore attracting a lot of drama. talk to us about that. >> you just talked to the governor. she is a very political animal, and she likes to make a stance. president trump allowed fireworks last year. this year they're not going to be allowed. there is not a high fire danger in d.c. this is a high fire danger area. i will tell you, talking to the locals here, most of the locals
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we spoke to said it's good they're not doing the fireworks. some of the out of town tourists will definitely be disappointed. >> cal perry in keystone, south dakota. tell your producer i say hi. thank you, cal. good to see you. that wraps up the hour, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. reverend al sharpton, "politicsnation" coming up next. but then paul went from no to know. with freestyle libre 14 day, now he knows how food affects his glucose. and he knows when to make different choices. take the mystery out of your glucose levels - and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us ♪♪
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good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, jim crow 2.0. right now our conservative majority supreme court is demonstrating just how abstract they consider our freedoms to be. as voting rights undergo a concerted assault from republican lawmakers. this week, ohio's court doubled down on its devotion to language over lived experience, essentially ruling that states can introduce discriminatory voting laws as long as there are available means for minority voters to get around them. if nothing else, it shows just how successful the trump administration was in one, and i do stress one area, and that was the entrenchment of
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