thank you for joining, i am lindsey reiser. >> i am kendis gibson, have a great day. today on velshi, they are investigating january 6 attack on the capitol. we are keeping a close eye on the side of the tragic apartment building collapse in florida where officials are rushing to demolish the rest of the building before i winds from tropical storm elsa threatens to collapse the remaining part of the condo. investigating the trump organization and turning over boxful's before watching her former father-in-law marched into court with handcuffs. jennifer joins me in just a few minutes. and donald trump let's just say

as the remarks do not have peer to have been vetted by a lawyer. velshi starts now. happy independence day, i am ali velshi. there is a lot you should know before you start your holiday. we begin with the bizarre yet scary situation which unfolded in massachusetts. partially closing sections of interstate 95 during the heavy holiday rush. the police they early yesterday morning a state trooper stopped to check on two trucks that were stopped in the emergency breakdown lane on interstate 95 about 50 miles north of boston. it turned out trucks were filled with 11 heavily armed men, clad in military tactical gear who told the officer they are on their way from rhode island to maine for training.

the officers were call for backup, two men were taken into custody and some fled. the rest took refuge in their truck, eventually and negotiators were able to get them all to turn themselves in. during the standoff thousands of residents were forced to shelter in place. in place. >> i'm not far from there, and if there are gunshots, it could go right through my windows and i have my from the air. nothing like this has ever happened in this area. >> shocking but understandable with the atmosphere that is in the country right now. it wouldn't surprise me. >> it doesn't take a genius to understand what he is talking about when he says the atmosphere in the country right now. it was interesting that they were going to maine for training. they claim to be called a foreign national. according to the groups website they are claimed they are not

under the united states government or citizens. it remains unclear as to the exact motives and threat level. it counts in times of major rise of extremists groups and violence and militias and threats like that. >> january 6 was not an isolated event. the problem of domestic terrorism has been across the country for a long time now and is not going away anytime soon. at the fbi we have been sounding the alarm on it for a number of years now. whenever we have the chance we tried to emphasize this was a top concern and remain so for the fbi. >> that warning back in march came on the heels of the january 6 attack on the capitol where we continue to learn that a handful of other self-styled militia groups played roles in the violence that unfolded. a third member of the extremists group, the oath keepers of

pleaded guilty for his role in the attack. he is now cooperating with federal prosecutors in their investigations into the remaining attackers. one important piece of this threat was brought to our attention yesterday on this show bike i congresswoman of michigan. after the insurrection she reminded us that members of these groups who took heart in the riot simply went back to their home states but did not give up their ideology when they did so. >> i'm going to say this so people understand, many of the people that participated in this have come home and their communities in my district, a significant number of militia and proud boys. i have towns, i'm not going to give you the names but leaders of come to me fearful that they are going to try to take over the city. people are worried about what the damage could be in states across the country. >> joining me now is white house correspondent and

political analyst. and former u.s. attorney and cohost of the sisters-in-law podcast. good morning to both of you. let's talk about this. in a minute i am talking to betty johnson who was leaning this select committee. when this investigation gets underway there not stymied by the get go or a lack of gop, by gop members who think january 6 was antifa or blm are a tourist visit. is not just the committee's work that we are going to be looking at is the formation. >> that's right. this committee is really the first time congress will be deeply looking at january 6 trying to get answers about who these people were, how much

damage did they really do? when they go back to their communities how to they face accountability? there's so many questions that we simply do not know. we have all this new video that comes out every single week. we have new charges. this committee is so important. republicans talking about january 6 are trying to rewrite the history for their political benefit. they are not going to talk about the base of trump supporters rook into the capital and tried to kill the vice president and the speaker of the house. they see it as a political liability for them. but for this country, there are so many people who want to know what in the world happened and how this happened and how to prevent anything like this from ever happening again. but they have their hands full,

written his leaders and his members taking assignments is denying that report but you can already see the fact that he was really criticizing liz cheney for getting on the committee and underscores how politicized this committee is going to be. >> joyce, i don't know what to make of this rise of the moore's group that we saw in massachusetts yesterday, apparently on their way from rhode island to maine, they seem to have affiliation with the sovereign citizens movement with which you have had some dealings? >> it gives us some sense of how broad the american tear landscape is and what an important job the fbi has on top of it. rise of the moors is typically

believed to be an offshoot of sovereign citizens. but then one of the men arrested was able to put out a statement saying they weren't. historically rise of the moors has had a unique belief that they are exempt from u.s. law because of the 1787 treaty between morocco and united states. that treaty does not exist. that pretty much exemplifies the belief of the sovereign citizens which are the conspiracy theory of conspiracy theory us. they believe things like at birth everyone is assigned a bank account depending on which sovereign group you listen to and they exert their ability to be independent from government control, they can have that money back. they don't have to pay taxes or anything else. that money can be used for their deaths. if some of the theories sounds silly they do have a tendency

to end up in violence. in 2010 in memphis, policemen were killed during a traffic stop, a routine traffic stop where two people use guns to kill police officers. >> tromped back on the scene, he showed up in texas last week for an event about the southern border, which in typical trump fashion was about grievance. then he had an event in sarasota florida, the charges against his company and allen weisselberg, not about the border. i'm curious to see how it's all playing out. we are watching various republican hopefuls and what they are doing, governors trying to manage the situation and then there is trump who was on the same old message of grievance, where does this go?

>> that's a great question, especially for july 4. trump, based on talking were with people who were close to the president, he feels that these charges against the trump organization, as long as he isn't personally charge it is a benefit because it keeps his name in the news. they keep going after people that are close to him but at the end of the day he is not charged. some of the things he was saying yesterday, i had to reread them again to make sure i didn't imagine it. he claims they are going after people who are avoiding taxes like on cars or children's tenement tuition. he talks about that avoiding taxes is the american way. and all the allegations that are yet unproven.

and he talked about the arrest of allen weisselberg. you see trump making excuses that hopefully allen weisselberg doesn't slip on him and thinking and taking the case that his company does what every other company is doing. even if they are it is still illegal. trump is using the tune it is still working for so many republican voters. >> many of my viewers have had enough of trump, is probably useful to hear what you just said that he said last night because it is a remarkable defense to a bunch of allegations. in many cases it defenses i didn't do it. here is what he said about the charges that you were just talking about. >> they go after good hard- working people for not paying taxes on a company car. you used an apartment because

you have to travel too far where your houses and you didn't pay tax or education for your grandchildren. does anybody know the answer to that stuff? but they indict people for that. but for murder and selling massive amounts of the worst drugs in the world that kill people left and right, that's okay, think of how unfair it is. never before has new york city and the prosecutors are perhaps any prosecutors criminally charged a company or person for fringe benefits. murders are okay, human trafficking, no problem but fringe and if it's you can do that. >> joyce, my only comment there is wild but i think you have a better comment? >> we have heard this strategy before from the former president and he used it

successfully. he diminished obstruction of justice during the mueller investigation as just a process crime. he got away with it there. now he is trying it with what is more than fringe benefits fraud, this is a 15 year conspiracy loss over $1.7 million in untaxed income going to allen weisselberg. so this is not some sort of garden-variety minimus activity that could be just excuse. this is the sort of context that when people are confronted with it and they don't resolve the situation there is going to be a prosecution. but we should look for more of this from the president who made it sound a lot like a witness in these comments like someone who really unders did allen weisselberg's state of mind and what was going on in the corporation. prior to the 2016 election he said he should be elected because he understood our tax

laws better than anyone else. i think more to come here. >> thank you both for coming. m tony me now is the democratic representative of new jersey and a member of the house armed services community. well, miss july 4 and every day thank you for the service you have rendered to our country. i want to start with that, the former president equivocating about what is right and what is wrong? last night i checked, murder and drug dealing is also wrong but some people also get caught for speeding. >> what is so shocking, how anti-american the sentiment of the trump loyalists to become and we see this continued even

in congress when members of congress try to whitewash the event of january 6. the worst attack on our nation's capital we have everything domestically by citizens of this country. especially if we are sitting here on the fourth of july, and the declaration of independence , here i am in new jersey, the worst winter washington soldiers went through, lives lost to our values into what this country believes in and now we have people attacking the capital, armed members saying they are not even american citizens, it has really become this alternative view of what government is and it is contrary to our values and contrary to democracy and contrary to whatever member of congress go through and contrary to the constitution. >> i wanted to talk to you, as

a veteran, we have a situation where we are finally getting our troops out of afghanistan, perhaps ahead of schedule, before the end of august. there are many many americans celebrating this who think this has not been a war we should of been in in the first place. there is a situation where we are leaving people behind under very tough circumstances to defend against the potential tele-band take over. we are leaving behind many aides and associates of american military who helped them as interpreters. later this morning a commercial is going to be released but we can show this to our viewers now. and then we can talk about it on the other side. >> as the sun rises on america's independence day our troops are coming home on orders of our commander in chief. but our troops aren't the only ones to serve the cause of

freedom. >> there are thousands of afghanistan interpreters who served on our side, as loyal as any one of us. my interpreter is a american hero two. they put their lives on the line for us and they will be in danger once our troops are gone. the president of the honorable thing when he promised to get those who helped us out of harms way. now we need to get it done. >> whatever it takes, we in congress are ready to help because we leave no one behind. >> we need to take them to. >> we need to take them to and give them the freedom they have earned. >> that is a remarkably powerful commercial the people are going to be seen starting in the next hour or two. a number of military veterans are in it. this is a serious matter, for those interpreters who cannot get visas to resettle in the united states or other countries

they warned that they will be tortured and hanged and beheaded. >> this is not just something that i think a duty has to our allies this is something very personal to many people who served in afghanistan. these are interpreters and drivers, people who warned our american troops of the threats that were going on in the community i've had more than one person come up to me and say the only reason i'm here today is because of an afghan citizen who helped me stay alive during the war. we've got to get them home. it is incumbent upon us but also future endeavors we have department protect democracy if our allies can't trust us to

have their back like these afghans have had our back for this almost 20 year war than we are not going to be able to protect our democratic map values across the world. >> it does seem like the white house understands this is a priority but the merit american visa processing and deals making with other countries where are we in this and what do you want to come out of the commercial and this campaign? >> we pass legislation through the house to make sure we cut through some of the red tape access to services that are readily available on the ground so we can get them through the procedures outside of the country. american troops are pulling up very quickly. we need to make sure we are protecting them if we are not bringing them with us. that's where we're at right now. >> was talk about the january 6 commission there is an issue,

we have the committee he was properly formed with republicans and democrats we could move forward on who they can get testify but we have this problem where the republican half, in particular, kevin mccarthy aims to delegitimize this commission either by not populating it with republicans or republicans who tell us that the hoaxer about antifa or blm or tour the capital. >> is incredibly upsetting as somebody who was on the floor sheltering in places we were worried about attacks from the insurrectionist to see kevin mccarthy who reportedly was very upset and angry about this attack to see him somewhere along the way having lost his courage and decided to put his

own political future ahead of getting to the bottom of the worst attack on her nation's capital in our history is really upsetting to me. it should be upsetting to every american who should hold their elected officials accountable. we need to ensure we can make a more resilient democracy and stand up to our democratic values and have members like kevin mccarthy trying to whitewash this and act as if it was a normal tourist event is not only upsetting for many americans it's against the oath they have taken. we wanted independence bipartisan commission that's we voted through. unfortunately we at the point we still need to do our duty in congress needs to get to the bottom of this. we put some really thoughtful numbers on this committee which

are probably the democratic speakers put up a bipartisan group now it's up to republicans to show us can you in fact show some courage, can you protect our country,? >> thank you for joining us, congresswoman of new jersey. we will have much more on the committee later in the show and i will be joined by two members, allen weisselberg former daughter-in-law joins in on moment, more velshi after this break. break. ne adventure. ♪ ♪ you get both. introducing the wildly civilized all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l. look, if your wireless carrier was a guy

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of happiness to america. that hides the stark reality in the year it was written, fully one fifth of the american population was in bondage. the newly independent nation still held millions of black people under bondage and they saw no contradiction the fact that they bought and sold human beings themselves. nearly 80 years later, well millions of african-americans were still enslaved, frederick douglass gave a speech on 5 july, 1852. he chose not to speak on july 4 because he refused to to celebrate american freedom while slavery was still the law of the land. his anger highlighted the paradox of a young nation. to him, celebration is a sham national great list swelling vanity and veil to cover up crime which would disgrace a

nation of savages. he continues there is not a nation on earth guilty of actresses more shocking and bloodied, people of these united states. today 100 when you're living another paradox in america. just took a significant step with its tortured past including making juneteenth a federal holiday when some of the year millions of enslaved black people were on the verge of losing their freedom. and now people are fighting to band schools of this very history including speeches five frederick douglass. here's another thing, there's a moment back in 1776 it could've changed trajectory and american freedom. the founding father, thomas jefferson, and enslave her throughout his life wrote a passage the condemn slavery is one of the many evils conjured up by the british king.

he is waged a cruel war in human nature violating its more sacred rights in distant people who never offended him, captivated and caring him into slavery in another hemisphere, imagine if these words became the moral mission of america, the difference that would have made. but that passage never saw the light of day. it was taken out after a debate by the continental congress. instead it was a mission of centuries of struggle over basic human and civil rights, the effects which are still being felt in the black community today. this fourth of july, let's remember what frederick douglass was fighting for and let's teach our kids about it because if we don't, who will? ? pay for clean. it's got to be tide.

the trump organization is facing criminal allegations. now the district attorney is willing to tell the jury all she knows. jennifer weisselberg, the x daughter-in-law of allen to prosecutors who are seeking to gain better insight into the organizations business dealings. she said the document she provided are what help to get the 15 count indictment levied against the president's former namesake business. she told nbc, i'm thrilled to hear this is not about an apartment in a mercedes, this is a serious criminal organization, the grand larceny, theft, tax evasion and tax fraud. it is allen weisselberg, it is all the officers, it is the family. now she is still meeting with

the da to discuss charges with trump himself. jennifer weisselberg joins us right now. i want to ask about this whole idea. donald trump said just last night what your tolling the manhattan da in the charges they filed, they are not just about a car and expenses around an apartment? >> this is a major economic crime unit they still handle other violent crimes in the city but that's incorrect. we can talk about consulting fees, the way they manage money this is just the beginning, the tip of the iceberg i know he's trying to say he's generous comments about him saving money on taxes if the scheme and the documents have been able to

prove that for the past five years. >> don junior made a comment about this, to wish and let's just play that and i want to get your opinion on the other side. >> my father after 50 years of climate pays for his grandkids private school in new york city. my dad takes care of his employees. >> sounds like a nice sentiment, what you think? >> i've always been grateful for donald's generosity but don junior knows through his ex-wife that there are various things going on i haven't seen my children since february 3 of 2020. 745 in the morning when i took them to school because donnell and allen and barry wanted to silence me over talking to the da about this organization.

you can talk about his shenanigans i'm not generous i'm not grateful. nothing means more than family. i just want freedom from this family. i'm not here because of a divorce or because i want money i was so happy to be rid of this family in 2019 but i'm never going to stop fighting, i'm a mother, you take my children and i will fight for the death. >> what is the motivation for you? why do you want them to know so badly what this family was doing? >> i think it is important, what you are saying before that he is not realistic, they are liars. they are trying to silence me because i already know too much. they are trying to a gag order and trying to get me evicted. i already know too much because allen weisselberg and i were

close for 28 years. i am grateful for everything they did , they didn't pay taxes properly they need to take accountability for that. that's not anyone else's fault. they are using the that will as saying i am ungrateful. it's all about control and power and trump misuses power. >> were the conversations in the family about how the trump organization picks up tabs for things, was that a well-known fact in the family? >> is in the deposition. every january they came up with a way to confiscate, it was a scheme will give you this instead of a raise. so the payroll company didn't

pay payroll taxes or state taxes, disability and insurance when you're getting a divorce and is is your husband made hundred $53,000 a year for 21 years you're controlled by a company but i'll see you get 25% of that, i can make my own money but is not legal. it might've been nice but it wasn't legal. >> what's going on is his head right now, is he going to flip? >> if we can get what we need to prove on barry and his son jack. it didn't look at the other day. look like stark reality hit him. listen, if there is a ledger there that they kept because he's meticulous about that he knows what he's done he knows

with the companies done. these tax themes started with fred trump, so he's nervous. i think you will flip, yes. >> jennifer weisselberg, the x daughter-in-law of allen weisselberg. authorities are preparing for the demolition of what's left of the collapse condo building in florida. they are hoping to take the building down before tropical storm elsa hits. you are watching velshi on msnbc. msnbc.

officials in florida are planning a news conference at 11:30 am eastern. they will likely discuss the fact that demolition crews are preparing to bring down what is left of the collapse tower south. surfside mayor said this

morning that the demolition will happen as soon as possible and probably tomorrow morning at the latest. crews are working quickly on the thread of tropical storm elsa. high winds and strong rain could make conditions worse. we are down at surfside, what is the latest on the situation, the demolition and how that affects the search for remaining victims? >> reporter: everybody is watching the path of the storm because it could be the difference of 25 mile-per-hour winds and 60 mile-per-hour winds. that's why the mayor made the decision to take this building down. the building is just 100 yards from the shoreline. that demolition will take place sometime during the next day. once they get the go-ahead and says they are ready to go there are existing questions especially from family members we spoke to. there's still 121 unaccounted for individuals that need that

rubble. there is concern with this demolition. usually a building of this size could take months to plan out. but this is such time sped up, we are just 50 yards where this buildings going to be coming down. there are no plans at this time to evacuate people from the surrounding area but there are concerns. if the winds do reach 40, 60 miles per hour what happens to the debris? there are a lot of questions here that remain to be answered over these next 24 hours ahead of that storm and the demolition. >> thank you, surfside florida. fresh off new job numbers, president joe biden has been getting props for the u.s. economy that some people would rather give the credit to the guy who has been out of office for six months in their face is

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if there is any action about whether our economy is recovering. on friday the labor to hartman order that 800 80,000 new jobs were created in june. a day earlier we learned the new weekly jobless claims hit a all-time low. they raised economic growth projections and while democrats and republicans agree they are heading in the right direction. they still can't agree what or who was responsible. they credited trump for the economic gain more than five months after he left office he said the pre-pandemic best economy started by the trump tax cut is roaring back after a virus interlude. we can thank a tax cut which balloon the deficit in this country which appear can.

the republicans don't like. my apologies that's just not how math works. how republicans quit governing and seized american politics, an important read is now out in paperback. during the conversation a friend of mine in contributing editor to something really important, a more perfect union. a new series launched today by the philadelphia inquirer examining institution and impact on racism and in equity. thanks to both of you for the work that you do. let's just start with you. economics is my jam, we have a tax cut that nobody needed, the balloons the deficit which apparently republicans don't

like is the very reason they don't want to give poor people and unemployed people more benefits because the school to give extra money you don't have to corporations but not to regular people. but putting all that aside every single economy said, the way to fix this all through 2020 was in the pandemic, stop the stupid stuff that causes the pandemic to spread, get everybody tested and and get everybody vaccinated. something that donald trump patently did not want to do. >> not only do that the failures of the trump administration but the american relief plan or rescue plan was responsible for economic success. what are they do, they can't critic so they credited trump for economic gain gains we are seeing right now.

it's demonstrably false and ridiculous this is a talking point they decided a petal to the public. >> president joe biden may be economically smart or not, but everybody understood if you stop the pandemic you have a better economy. but the rnc said the economy will not recover all the jobs lost until june 2022, his agenda is squandering the economy he inherited. today's job for makes clear last thing american economy needs more wasteful spending and tax hikes. president joe biden needs to get out of the way and let the american economy get back to work again because minimum wage will just solve it self. people earning 7 1/4 will suddenly earn 15 bucks an hour now. it's all going to be fine as long as the government gets out of the way. >> what a difference four years

makes. i can remember when republicans were all too eager to credit trump for the gains in the economy the former president obama started saying the boom in the economy at the beginning of trump's term was due to his efforts and not to the turnaround that the obama and biden administration had begun. now that president joe biden is trying to take his victory lap like the american rescue plan and jobs coming back in the country is beginning to reopen republicans are low to credit president joe biden and instead are starting to credit his predecessor. which i think is interesting. appoints a couple of realities. the american people are focused on reopening and they want to get back to work, we are seeing

that happen in the economy, especially among women who are making a huge comeback after women being disproportionately impacted during the pandemic is time for republicans to the campaign trail doubt their successes with a stun and voters cannot claim victory and turned of this economy, democrats are taking their victory lap you see them out in this holiday weekend talking about successes that they have made trying to turn things around for the country, republicans can't make similar claims and they know it. what you're seeing is their typical revisionist history. >> yeah, they are going to rely on a 2017 tax cut. militia arrested in massachusetts, a militia in

america is basically a gun club, you're not allowed to engage in law enforcement because us with the national guard is there to do. the national guard is set out by governors. south dakota is deploying the national guard to the southern border of the united states, seems to be tied in some way to money being given by a donor. it doesn't seem like the donor is paying for the national guard but they are making some sort of contribution and hence the national guard is being deployed. sounds weird to me. >> it is weird. do we have a republican governor using financing from a republican donor in one state to deploy the guards to another state run by a republican governor, all of this is part of the republican campaign stunt. if all kind of legal questions whether it's admissible under the law. the national guard is not for rent, private donors are not

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we love surveys here at msnbc. just ask steve kornacki. this new one asked more than 140 presidential historians to rank every former president based on a set of ten characteristics. it's a long list. here is the shortened version. bringing up the rear in one of the last four spots is donald trump. i know hearing he is in the bottom four of all former presidents ever would be a shot

to the gut. i'm sure he liked the sound of 41st best president. back with me are erin and steve. i want to just start by playing something. people won't like this idea. i want to play what donald trump said to the country on july 4th in 2020. let's listen to this. >> our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values and indoctrinate our children. angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities. they think the american people are weak and soft and submissive. but, no, the american people are strong and proud. and they will not allow our

country and all of its values, history and culture to be taken from them. >> that was july 3rd, it was yesterday, a year ago. that is the inspirational sort of stuff that got donald trump into 41st spot out of 45. >> yeah, i mean, listen, i think how history is going to remember donald trump is going to be something to watch over time. you've got abraham lincoln holding onto the number one spot for the past 20 years. then you have former presidents like woodrow wilson dropping in the last 20 years in rank as people have really kind of more fully considered his legacy and the ways in which even though, yes, there were a lot of good things that he did, but there were other things that were harmful to certain people in this democracy, certain

americans. as people consider the totality of his achievements, his legacy has been affected in terms of his rankings among these historians. really, really interesting to think about the most recent president in light of that and then how he will be remembered. i think it's something that all presidents, whether they admit it or not, are thinking about as -- maybe not as they are governing, but on the way out, how history will remember them. i'm sure that even applies to the last president as well. >> if you look at that list of presidents, it's not very clearly partisan. when you go back to some of the older presidents, the parties were very different. steve there are republicans who have presidential aspirations. we were talking about it in the last block.

they sort of want to follow in the mold of donald trump. it's not just a good mold. >> no, of course not. here we have a president twice impeached. he tried to overturn our democracy. he was the first president in american history to ever try and overturn an election that he lost. this is a terrible model to follow. in fact, i think erin is right in terms of the historical context. over time, we reassess, we re-evaluate the presidents once we have the benefit of hindsight. in the most recent rankings, we see andrew jackson and woodrow wilson dropping. in the not too distance future, i think he will be lower when we reassess and re-evaluate and consider how tragic his failed term was. >> erin, i want to talk about philly and this new project you are on. it played a remarkable role prior to the period -- or during the civil war. it was a center for the underground railroad.

it had quakers who believed in abolition. a lot of racist institutions there, too. some of the most racist things that happened in american history were written and conjured up in philly. >> listen, thank you so much for mentioning a more perfect union, the project that we are launching at the enquirer. this is my adopted hometown. being here in philly, i think a lot about what kind of the ongoing revolution is which we saw in these protests for, frankly, who these -- our founding deals were going to apply to in this country, in our democracy. yes, philly, we celebrate -- probably more than any other city in this country as the place where democracy was born.

but we also have to acknowledge that many of our first institutions, the first hospital, the first university, the first -- our financial system, the u.s. mint, stock exchange, these institutions were born here. if we acknowledge that freedom was born here, we have to acknowledge inequality was born here. yet, we can be hopeful that we are in the spirit of our framers and our founders. we can chart a new way forward so that those ideal dozen apply to everybody in a way that they still have yet to do. that's what we mean by having a more perfect union as it says in our declaration. >> thank you for that. thank you for your writing on a daily basis, steve. if you don't follow steve, you should. his book is out in paperback. it's called "the imposters." erin, editor for "the 19th," which you should subscribe to and follow her on twitter. she's contributing editor to a more perfect union launched

today. don't go anywhere. we have more on the way. the january 6th select committee is about to start digging into how the capitol insurrection happened. i'm going to be joined by two members of the committee, the chair congressman thompson and pete aguilar. i will ask them whether they are going to use their subpoena power on the 45th president of the united states. the next hour begins right now. good morning. happy 4th of july. as many of us prepare for cookouts and safe gatherings, let's look at where we were one year ago today. covid-19 was raging out of control. hundreds of people were dying every day. the president, who had quaintly only been impeached once by then, didn't care about that. instead, held a party in the midst of a pandemic. while at mount rushmore in south dakota, the president did