♪♪ if it's thursday, president biden will deliver remarks about the u.s. troop withdrawal from afghanistan this hour. as america leaves an increasingly unstable country, with an increasingly resurgent taliban. after two decades of war. plus tex kicks off a special session, with an agenda chock-full of issues like voting sures, so-called critical race theory, as governor abbott is facing a primary challenge from his right. two people are under arrest after the braising assassination of haiti's president. the question does remain, who is in charge of the country? what constitution is actually at work in this country?

haiti's ambassador to the united states will be here to explain. just about 45 minutes we're expecting to hear from president biden about the u.s. troop withdrawal. it's been accelerating as the country effectively ends 20 years of war there. it was a promise made by candidate biden. as troops are leaving, the taliban is gaining ground quickly. the country is at a real risk for war president biden was asked about the prospects of kabul falling. here's what he said yesterday --

more than 2200 americans have died in afghanistan since 2001. in the united states, more than $2 trillion have been spent just in that country. while ending the war remains popular, the potential of afghanistan returning to a haven the terrorism is. it's made for a powerful symbol of the vacuum. miles of unguarded roads, hundreds of discarded vehicles. here at home while -- it goes much of the public opinion in this country. remember, there was a time afghanistan was the so-called

good war. here is a warning from then senator joe biden in 2003. it still rings true. >> will the united states declare victory and go home? we've seen what happens when war lords and traffickers take over a country. they soon make their nation a haven for terrorists. that's what happened under the taliban, and i believe if we're not careful, it's going to happen again. >> yes, that was a young tony blinken behind then senator joe biden's right shoulder. joining me is monica alba, and richard engel in kabul for us as well. but, monica, let me start with you. i know what he's not going to do today. he's not going to necessarily declare victory, but he is going to make the case that what the united states went to afghanistan to do has been done, and that maybe we made other promises as we were there, but

we couldn't keep every one of those promises. how is he going to thread this needle? >> reporter: in fact jen psaki was just asked about whether this is the final speech we should expect from the president on this, or whether there will be regular updates as the withdrawal continues over the summer. she said, in her own words, this is certainly not going to be a mission accomplished moment today. it is not going to be celebratory in nature, but this is about, in the words of the white house, the president explaining his rationale for not continues to have a military option in what he views as an unwinnable war. he's going to come out today and talk a bit about the timeline, which has shifted in the last couple months, when he anouned in april a plan for withdrawal, there was talk about the september 11th anniversary

attacks, and now it seems it will happen a bit faster, given that 90% of the drawdown is already complete, a lot of the outstanning questions remaining on what will happen with thousands of afghan nationals, our partners there in terms of drivers, engineers, interpreters. jen psaki just told reporters that they're planned to maybe be evacuated by the end of next month. a lot of people have said that might be too late. we'll hear the president detail a bit of the strategy, where they may be relocated to. some may come to the u.s. on special immigrant visas, but the bottom line is the president will come out and say this was my decision, i campaigned on it, i'm fulfilling it. here is how i will defend it in the next couple months as it does draw to a close. >> is he going to outline, monica, how america plans to deal with afghanistan if they do, once again, become a haven for a reconstituted al qaeda, or

reconstituted islamic state? >> according to the white house, a big part of it will be some of the troops who stay behind. some 650 will be stationed protecting our diplomatic presence, the embassy, for instance, and a few hint will also be at the airport of kabul. the fall of kabul is not something completely predictable. they're holding out hope that that could be prevented, but they're also talking about this is something that afghans will have to decide their own future. even though, of course, the u.s. backs the afghan government, their potential collapse is something he doesn't want to necessarily be involved with, certainly not for more years to come. >> monica alba getting things started for us at the white house. thank you. richard engel, i want to start with this reminder to

people, which is we're going to hear this was not a winnable war at some point which them leads me to, who were we phiing the past few years? is it bag the taliban at times has collateral damage here, and at time they have been an enemy? how would you classify it? is that why it became an unwinnable war? because we weren't necessarily fighting the same watch that the afghans were fighting. . >> reporter: this war was won in the first few months of the battle. afghanistan was controlled by the taliban. it was hosting osama bin laden. that's why the u.s. invaded, invaded with a tiny footprint, just the cia, special ops and

air control came in, and very rapidly toppled the taliban, drove out al qaeda. osama bin laden escaped, but al qaeda was on the run. that happened months after 9/11. there was a honeymoon period where things were going well, the country was stable, but the u.s. got distracted. the u.s. went to iraq, most of the military resources moved to that theater, and taliban continued to grow and metastasize, as u.s. troops got bogged down in iraq, there was a resurgence here. even though there was a surge, the taliban found their footing. it was a war won initially, and then set off-course. this war, as president biden put it, is going to say was an unwinnable war, we needed to end

it at some stage, it already ended several years ago. this has no longer been an active combat war like it was 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago. it was in february 2020, so has not been an active combat zone that was in 2010. when people talked about the war was pointless, american forces were spread thin, that stopped a long time ago. the last year it's been a stabilization mission with a relatively small american footprint. now that this stabilization mission is ending and the small american footprint is going, the taliban are seizing the moment, charging ahead, capturing territory at province after province, and they are advancing in the direction of kabul. that is encouraging al qaeda.

i've been told by numerous afghan officials that al qaeda, isis, other extremist groups are all coming here to celebrate what they consider a final victory, the same was the mujahedeen was able to establish a legacy, the taliban is now trying to -- and earn its brand that it pushed out the united states, the greatest super-power that's ever existed. >> what is it winning, though, richard? so they get to claim this land? do they want it to even be a country? or does the taliban want to see it split up more tribally? is it only the westerners who want to draw the line as afghanistan?

>> reporter: they want to win it for they are solemn, take over the territory. they want to declare to the world this was a religious victory, this was a jihad that succeeded. for them this is a spiritual mission as well. by controlling the land, they get practical benefits. the taliban is also involved in the drug business, so they can more actively cultivate poppy, but generally, for the taliban this was be a victory in symbolic terms, gain a, and go down in history as the force that pushed the united states out. i've spoken to some afghan officials, and the afghan government is not unified. they were breaking apart, but some afghan officials are worried you could have another 9/11, you are emboldening the jihadi movement so much there could be another what they told me, a wake-up call for the united states.

>> richard engel in afghanistan for us, thank you. i want to turn to someone who has worked closely on the afghanistan issue, in the last administration, did so when we first went back in the first part of this century. john bolton, former ambassador to the united nations as well. good to see you if you could make this decision, could kabul become korea and germany for american troops? is this something you would have at least advocated for, yes, permanent stability forces were necessary? would that have been where you would have come down on this if you could have made this decision unilaterally? >> we would have hoped in 2001 it wasn't necessary, but the issue for the united states today, yesterday, tomorrow, is what protects american civilians

and american national interests the best? this is a hard decision. this has been a protracted struggle, but let's be very, very clear. we went into afghanistan, we have stayed in afternoon not to protect afghans, but to protect americans. this military withdrawal and the withdrawal of all the other american agencies that are affected, i think is grave danger to america's national security. this is not a partisan point, because if donald trump had been reelected, i think he would be doing exactly what joe biden is doing. it's a mistake across the board, and i very much fear we're going to feel the consequences in the not-too-distant future. >> it isn't unpopular that american crops are in korea or

germany, but public opinion matters, right? and public opinion has turned on this war on all sides of the spectrum. this isn't one of our bubble issues. is this the fault of political leaders not articulating what the mission is? i think when it was as a mission to promote democracy, a lot of people said, good luck, this is a country a couple centuries behind. >> i never believed it was a mission for democracy. god knows i wish people there well. this is not as a charity. we're there to protect american civilians from another 9/11. i do think that public opinion has turned against this warp. i blame in squarely a our political leadership for at least the last 12 years, we have not had a president to

articulate clearly why we were there. we would all like to win the war. unfortunately, disposition of terrorist forces in afghanistan and many other parts of the world hasn't allowed that to happen. the question is, would you rather protect against renewed terrorist attacks in the united states on places like afghanistan? or would you rather try to do it in the streets and skies above perk? if our political leadership explained the nature of the mission, recognizing it was protracted, the american people would have understood it. that's how the american people understood the protracted nature of the american deployments in germany and japan to win the cold war, which we did, and in fact our troops are still there. when people explain the reasons and the reasons are good, the american people will support of disposition of american forces to protect them.

sometimes we treated the taliban as an entity, sometimes as an entity to be negotiated with. these mixed messages perhaps seem to, i think, throw our military leaders for a loop at times, and perhaps it was being done to just forestall any more attacks, whatever rhine but it seems how we dealt with the taliban changed constantly. >> i think we understood on september the 12th that we faced an ideological foe of the united states and the west as a whole. it has remained an ideological foe, though we don't acknowledge that. i think there's too many people in the united states and the west generally, who don't see

this religious fanaticism in political form is just as much an ideological threats as the great threats we sauce during the 20th century. it seems very medieval to us, and i think if we maintained a consistency of understanding that threat, it would have been easier and more logical to explain to the american people why we needed to continue to resist it through a military intelligence presence in afghanistan. >> military leaders are telling me that the major threats to the security of the united states don't emanate from afghanistan anymore. it doesn't say they may not in the future, but right now our threats, you know, we've got more issues in asia, more issues in cyber, than we do with al qaeda or isis.

therefore, we're going to have to prioritize our resources into those areas. what do you say to that rationale? >> well, i think that's a self-licking ice cream cone. if you only have so many resources, and more threats than resources can cope with, you're not going to do very well. the united states obviously has to face the threat of china in asia and around the world. it's the existential threat of the 21st university, but it doesn't mean other threats have disappeared. we have new threats like cyber. we can defend the united states. what are we good for if we could defend the united states by the application of adequate resourcing, and they're out there. >> another argument that's been made is 20 years ago we didn't

have the technology or the drone technology we have today. we're really good at this counter-terrorism stuff, and, you know, we don't have to be in country in the numbers we've been in in order to manage it. is that realistic? >> that is ridiculous. the idea that you can have an effective presence, not just to deal with the terrorist threat in afghanistan, but to watch what's going on to the west and iran, to worry about pakistan, which in the face of a taliban-controlled afghan government could be more susceptible to be taken over by a radical islam system, could have then a potential stock up nuclear weapons requires being there on the ground. doing it long distance is much less effective than the idea we're now going to do it from the persian gulf region or central asia is a very poor substitute for being present in sufficient numbers inside

afghanistan. >> i feel like this is a divide morning the foreign policy -- to the american public it's why are we there? >> i understand that. i have one thing to say, september 11th, 2001, to risk that happening again, which is very much what i think we're doing, is national security malpractice. i just hope to god i'm wrong. >> former ambassador, former national security adviser john bolton, i appreciate you sharing your perspective. >> thanks for having me. when the president's remarks begin later this hour we'll bring them live and in full. some of the republican red-meat items on the agenda as

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welcome back. texas kicked off its special legislative session this morning, and the agenda reads like a platform of red meat. it includes restriction hours for voting, a tightening of the texas bail system, crackdowns on alleged social media censorship and the issue of chris cal race theory, restrictions on abook

drugs, and tran engineers are athlete ban. not on there, is the state's electric grit. grid. this comes -- and he has suggested secession after a lawsuit failed to overturn president biden's victory. joining me is patrick from "the tex tribune." when you couple it with the political theater of last week of the governor and the former president at the border with the governor talking about using texas state taxpayer dollars to build a wall, how nervous is

greg abbott about his chances of holding the nomination? >> he in a tense moment. it feels like he's facing more scrutiny than he ever has on his governship, starting with the coronavirus pandemic getting some criticism from his right on how he's navigated that as it relates to business shutdowns. it clearly seems like an agenda designed to be responsive to his right flank. he already has at least three primary challengers, current sitting chairman of the republican committee, alan west, and so it looks like he's being responsive to this, look overall

he's the favorite. in the latest poll, he was at 77%. that's unchanged from the last time the poll, and he announced this morning he has $55 million in the bank, which is a staggering figure even by the very high statistics he's kind of become known for. literally one wort from the former president, and his numbers could collapse in a hurry, so i understand how they have to do the performance art on the right for this one individual, but are they at all concerned about positioning him so far to the right? i mean, texas' general election politics are shifting rapidly. it seems like for every vote he gains on the right, he risks two

in the middle. >> this is a tricky balance. he has continued to move to the right. obviously a lot of republican office holders are facing this dilemma across the country, how much to embrace the president, embrace these policies in the primary versus the potential damage to their political standing in a general election. i think abbott is a great example of that right now. >> you've been alan west, who is not a texan. game over, because i think he saw he couldn't win statewide in florida, so make the political climate was a little more open to him in texas. he sort of hijacked the state party. is he a serious threat or not? he seems -- sometimes i think he's just look to go make a

buck, not necessarily win an office. >> you know, right now i call him a credibility threat. i would wouldn't at this moment call him a serious threat. we know a lot about his politics, personality and skills as a politician, having watched hi as the state party chairman, but right now i call him a credible threat, not necessarily a social threat. a serious threat. julio castro last week ruled on the basically being on a ballot, some told me he's not running for governor. he wasn't be for joaquin. beto o'rourke says don't take

him out of this. you have the matthew mcconaughey stuff, what is real and what isn't? >> there's beto o'rourke would be the most formidable. he hasn't committed either way, but until he makes a hard decision, you know, there are not other folks who are willing to put that i am name out there. the democrat bench in texas continues to be pretty small. given that there's tension, whether it's covid or voting rights, so they look to harris county, and hidalgo, but as of

now she's expressed for interest, even though some folks continue to look at her as a promising candidate. >> is the state democratic party ability to recruit people for all the on the floor oichs? >> it has been a challenge. they haven't always found necessarily the strongest candidates with the most political experience, but they've been able to fill those slots. i anticipate they'll be able to do so again in 2022. >> patrick svitek, i think texas will be one of the three or four most interesting places in 2022. i imagine you'll be a more familiar face, at least for this hour. >> thanks.

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during a gun battle and arrested two more overnight. this security camera video emerged, showing heavily armed men in vehicles parent outhis home around the time he was murdered. moise nominate add new prime minister before he was culled. it's not clear hog in charge of the country at this point, which who is the recognize the leader? >> the government had a prime minister, so, therefore, since

the president -- but that prime minister was in the process of forming his own government, but unfortunately the assassination occurred. there was as -- tosh and to make sure to the continuation of the state. that's why we are -- the one coming in now. is marshal law in effect? >> we just don't want to say martial law. even though it's a state of siege, it's more for national police, and they are going to continue their investigation, because we believe that most of

them, we hope will have some in -- and they are hunting them down. >> so we can make sure we have them and bring them to just. we need to know what occurred and we need to know who sent them. >> do you have since there are some suspects in custody, do you have an idea of who is behind this? >> we don't want to speculation. we don't to play the finger-pointing thing. we just want to let the investigation, you know, display, and i believe the

result will surface on who was aware of this. >> what is the role you would like the united states to play? >> the united states has always been one of our ally. we are -- we want them to request yesterday from the white house in our conversation. it's very important to have help with the investigation. the president has assassinated, therefore there could be implications. we want the united states to help with the investigation by sending some experts on the ground to help the national police. secondly, we want the united states to strengthen the national police systems, because

they've got one of the greatest providers for the national police, so we call for them to increase that assist tans and make sure the national police have the equipment so they can be more effective in the fight against the gangs, because, you know, this company has been infested by gangs. so the police has the obligation to fight the gangs, root them out and make sure they are taken out of service. i'm wonder if you confirm "the washington post" that one of the people arrested was an american? >> i saw that report as well. i saw the picture, but even if that would have been the case, it was a haitian-american. the last name i saw, and it

remains to be confirmed by the national police. i saw the picture as well, and i saw the report, but i want to make sure that the information comes from the national police and confirms that. >> one more on the power vacuum. after you believe you've arrested everybody, is the prime minister going to relinquish power voluntarily? and allow -- >> i will say to -- i think haitian leaders, i think we need to try to see how this unfortunate situation, the

assassination of the president, how can we use it to unify and to reconcile this nation? also, there will be some conflicting position, with regard -- it's very important for the country itself not only to heal, but for the laiders to set a very good example in trying to unify the country. that is the most important thing now. so, therefore, you know, it's -- we want to be able to sit down together and find a way out and find a way forward. i understand some parties may say this is the real solution, and others may say this is the

solution, but at the end of the day it's important to get a common solution for the people of this country. >> at some point it sounds like this needs to be another election, but i'm guessing that will also be discussed in due time. ambassador, i appreciate you coming on and helping us with as much information. as a south floridian, i want to see notion more than a peaceful and prosperous haiti. here's hope we get that soon enough. thank you, ambassador. >> thank you. i really appreciate having me. coming up, new revelations that a 2008 florida state law that called for condos to repair, might have been prevented the collapse if the law had not been repealed. e col law had not been repealed. and one we discover. one that's been tamed and one that's forever wild.

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it's officially two weeks since this tragedy shook our community and the world. we have now officially transitioned from search-and-rescue to search-and-recovery. the work continues with all speed and urgency. welcome back. mayor daniella levine cava made that announcement. as of yesterday, the teams focused their operation to simply recovery mode. the death toll has now risen to 60, but only 35 of those 60 victims have been identified. 80 people remain unaccounted for, as the family begins

navigating the next tips. debbie wasserman schultz is here with us. good to talk with you. this is, i think, the next stage of the difficult process. you have a lot of people still grieving, but now you have real-world problems for the people who survived and once lived there. they lost their life savings, perhaps. you have others who live in the communities watching their insurance rates skyrocket, the values of their condos plummet, therefore their life savings at risk. this is going to have a lot of unintended consequences on the local economy, is it not? >> yeah, no question about that, chuck. the ripple effect of this unique and unprecedented tragedy becrowd just these are people who have had their lives shattered into a million pieces,

now we have to pick them up one by one, making them whole is nearly impossible, certainly could not with what the normal federal assistance that's available, but also to make sure we look down the road as to how we can prevent this from happening again, and also make sure we stay with the families who have lost everything, or who have lost everything plus their dear loved ones, and make sure when the cameras shut off, we help them get their lives back on track. it's very challenging. let's start with the regulatory challenge. how much of it is county and state issue, and how much do you think your role as a member of congress on the federal level is needed. what is that? are federal guidelines here enough? or is this something that actually probably should be tighter in your coastal counties, and therefore a local

decision? >> so i think that this is going to continue, as it has been, to need to be a whole of government approach. that's something we're quite proud of. despite the differences between various elected officials, we have all approached this as a team and there's not been daylight between and we have to focus at the federal, state and local level when it comes to a, getting to the bottom of how this happened to prevent it from happening again, and, b, all of the changes at the federal government to prevent it from happening again, and then, c, to make sure that there are resources made available that also need to occur at the federal and the state levels at least so that we can help people put their lives together. and so we have the nist, the national institute of standards and technology, and the fda and and fema, and nist will

recommend after they get to the fact-finding completion, they will recommend building standards and engineering standards and that is where my role is going to kick in legislatively what we need to do, but chuck, we have clear gaps here, and only a 40-year inspection in two counties of 67. geography should not drive whether or not your building that you live in is safe anywhere in the country. >> let's talk about what you can do to allow, you know, before this building collapsed, and just sometimes being in state of florida would be a pre-existing condition for a homeowner as far as the insurance company were concerned and i am mixing the insurance language here, but you get where i am going, so if one insurance company has to pay too much in florida due to climate issues, they just say, we are not writing the policies anymore

for florida, and the rug is pulled out from homeowner x, whether it is a condo or whatever, and what can be done to prevent this sort of the insurance shopping that the insurance companies are doing to the state of florida right now? >> well, we are already having problems like that as you know being a florida native with the wind storms insurance coverage challenges, and difficult to get insurance, and people are dropped right and left, and on top of that now, i am concerned that insurers might decide not to insure condominium properties, because they would potentially determine it is not worth the risk and that why the state needs to for sure take a tight look at the tightening up the regulatory scheme as you alluded to in the opening of repealing the reserve in the condominium opening to have in

reserve instead of rolling the dice to hope they have the resources to pay at once which the condo owners with a big ticket item that many times they can't afford. >> right. well, that is bringing us to the whole idea of should condo boards have this power essentially to not do renovations just because they are too costly? >> so, this is where i feel like i have to go back to take a look at what the federal government can do, because like i said, you know, where you live shouldn't be driving whether or not you are the building that you are living in is safe, and remains safe, and making sure that we have a floor potentially of safety, whether we can look at the requiring the intervals, and appropriate intervals of levels of inspections at the federal levels and heed those recommendations from nist and looking at the reserve issues from the condominium

associations and the state needs to specifically look at how you ensure that the repairs are made, because all of that left on the condominium board members is too much to ask of them, and so you need to have the legal authority here at the state level to ensure that happens as well as the local level. >> you have to protect condo board members from the harassments of their own neighbors who don't want to have ever have to pay more money and they are driven a lot by the peer pressure and sadly i know that from second-hand experience, congresswoman. >> right. >> i have to wrap it up. congresswoman debbie wassermann schultz. >> 100%, chuck. >> appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. and now, turning to the latest on the pandemic, and the cdc director rochelle walensky warned about this, and now, the

delta variant is now the most dominant strain in the united states. >> we expected this delta variant to be the most common strain and if you are not vaccinated you are susceptible to the delta variant and particularly at risk for severe illness. >> those new warnings are coming as we learned today that the olympics will ban spectators after japan declared a coronavirus state of emergency in tokyo and the entire region and there has been public opposition to the games because of the coronavirus and the variant, and only 15% of the eligible population is vaccinated in japan. you can see where this is going. a spectator-less olympics. and you remember baseball in the bubble, and the basketball in bubble, and the athletes will have to perform in the fan-less bubble. that is going to do it for us today, and we will see you tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." and coming up next is geoff

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it is great to be with you. i'm geoff bennett and we start in washington where any minute president biden is going to deliver remarks on the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan, and this morning there was a briefing on the state of the withdrawal, and

that is well ahead of the deadline of september. and bagram which was a hustling hub for troops is now a ghost town. and this strategy is now leaving behind a complicated and troubling situation leaving the allies at risk as the taliban is gaining ground throughout the country. this is as afghan troops are trying to hold them back without support of the u.s. forces as richard engel saw exclusively from the front lines. and the consequences could be particularly dire for women and girls in the country who are facing harsh restrictions under taliban rule, but president biden is firm in the commitment to ending america's longest war, and he says that the u.s. is going to continue to support the afghan government, but after two decades oth