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bills. they staged a walk out last month to block earlier elections legislation. joining me now from texas is jane tim. you have been following the story very closely. what can you tell us about what the plan is for texas democrats? >> lawmakers don't feel like they have any options to negotiate. they spent the weekend in conversations and they feel like they just need to move forward and that for them is leaving the state for the first time in 18 years or so. they're planning to just leave the state until the session ends. it can last up to 30 days. we're a few days in so they're going to washington dc for three weeks where they hope to put a spotlight on this legislation as well as lobby for federal voting legislation. they see that as the end game . governor greg abbott can just keep calling special sessions and asking them to pass the special legislation. this is what they think can stop
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it for now and help put a spotlight on the ultimate solution. >> you say they're coming here to washington dc. what's the plan for them once they get here? >> i think it is coming together pretty quickly. this is a fast moving story but they're planning to take private chartered jets, two of them, this afternoon to texas. they risk arrest by doing this. texas constitution allows remaining lawmakers to compel their peers to come back. the last time it happened in 2003 we know the texas rangers were deployed to try to track down the lawmakers. there's genuine concern they could be arrested and brought back in. part of the reason that today has become this make or break moment, despite the fact that the legislature doesn't adjourn until tomorrow, they know they need that vote to send the rangers after them. they are hoping to get out before they can be picked up and brought back in.
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they fear they could be locked in the legislature and made to do this. the texas constitution has a very rarely used provision that allows lawmakers to essentially lock them in. >> wow, jane timm. let's turn from the state capital in texas to our capital here in washington where lawmakers are gearing up. the president is trying to forge ahead with his agenda. the republicans are furthering their embrace of the former president is who is now escalating his lying and conspiracy theories about our democracy and the january 6th attack on it if is extremely troubling because republicans largely made it clear that trump remains the leader of the party and they're fiercely loyal to him and his ideas. here was trump at the conservative gathering cpac yesterday pushing lies about our
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elections. in this case, the person that counts the vote was more important than the candidate. never forget the radical left is not the majority in this country. we are the majority and it's not even close. >> at the same time he is now praising people who participated in the violent january 6th attack on the capital. >> there was such love at that rally. you had over a million people there there for one reason. they were there for the rigged election. they felt the election was rigged. they were peaceful great people. the crowd was unbelievable and i mentioned the word love. the love in the air. i have never seen anything like it. >> great people he said. his rhetoric got a lot darker than that as well.
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which we will get into in just a moment. all of this comes as democrats on the house select committee on the january 6th attack are gearing up for that committee's first hearing expected next week. the house's top republican kevin mccarthy has yet to name the five republicans he wants to join the committee. coming up we will speak with congressman benny thomas. first let's go to ali where she has been astanding the cpac conference and garrett haake who is on capitol hill. let me tart with you at cpac, i attended many of those events, you have, garrett has. it has taken, it seems, a pretty dark turn. what have you seen there? >> a pretty dark turn especially when you consider what cpac has been in the conservative movement which is a chance to see where the heart of the republican party is. it is really one of the places where a lot of the grass roots
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ideas used to be born. people have joked it should be called tpac after trump because they're so wed and loyal to him. he comes to events like this one, spreads these kinds of conspiracy theories about the 2020 election as well as around january 6th. and these people and these crowds believe them. what is worse is it is coming when he goes on fox news and paints a picture very contrary to the reality of what happened on the ground. it means you have cable hosts and others reinforcing this alternate reality about what happened in the insurrection. it's so dangerous because we're seeing him continuing to create new threads of conspiracy theories around the people killed, he is trying to make the deaths of the insurrectionists
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seem partisan in nature. he is trying to create an alter reality. >> alternate on the right. and he wants to continue to muddy the waters. they are making january 6th look like something filled with love rather than a riot at the united states capital. >> and more than just a riot. it was a violent attempt to stop our democracy from actually functioning. to stand in the way of certifying our election. and garrett, the select committee is tasked with trying to create a record that shows and finds the truth of course a big political challenge is trying to come up with something that the majority
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of americans believe is an accurate version of the truth. but of course republicans and particularly kevin mccarthy have a lot potentially to lose here. mccarthy was very involved in speaking with the president on that day. and there has been a lot of reporting about the concerns he may have about being subpoenaed to testify. what do we know about what they are saying. kevin mccarthy will have to name republican members of congress to the committee. how is he thinking through the calculations and the participation here. >> first of all the time line on this is important. we know the first hearing is expected to be the 20th or the 21st or july. and the capital police officers will set a standard for what happen thad day. the attacks with flag poles, bear spray, and hand to hand
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combat all day long. those facts are not in dispute beyond the former president's speechifying. then you will see it getting a little more political. they are looking, look, he has to figure out what he is doing sooner rather than later and they will push back that is not necessarily the indications. mccarthy has leadership and people that know these issues that are on the relevant committees. he needs to pick them sooner rather than later to give them a chance to be prepared and to come in with the same coordination that the democrats have and the further he delays the harder it gets especially once that factual predicate gets established. it is not a festival of love for donald trump. it is a riot, attack, or insurrection on these very
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buildings. >> so garrett, the former president told maria bartiromo that he thinks that mccarthy might actually have to speak in front of this committee and he is confident. he said i'm sure kevin will be very good from that standpoint. i have to assume that means good for trump, what's at stake here? >> mccarthy has wanted one thing more than anything else, and that is for the issue to go away. he spoke out strongly against president trump in the immediate wake of the insurrection. he has been trying to keep the republican tent as big as possible so there is room for
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people who want donald trump to be the future of the party and those that want him to be the past of the party, but if he gets called in front of this committee under penalty of perjurying himself or lying to congress, as is the case, when these folks are testifying in front of a committee, that will be a more challenging set oaf circumstances for him. >> for sure, garrett, ali, thank you both very much. really appreciate it. joining us now is the chairman of the house select committee on january 6th, congressman benny thompson. it's very nice to have you with us today. thank you for being here. let me just start with what this first hearing is set to look like. have you set a final date? and as garrett mentioned we expect to hear from capital police officers, what's the goal as this gets under way? >> thank you for having me. first of all this hearing is to set the tone for the select committee. we care a lot about the men and women who are tasked with the
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responsibility for protecting those who visit the capital. we also care about the custodial staff that keep the facilities clean. to make sure that things look good, and they are tasked with the responsibility of cleaning up the mess after the riot. so no committee thus far had an opportunity to talk to the people. so we want to set the tone that we care about all of the people that work at the united states capital and we want to hear about what they had to endure on january 6th. from that point we will go into the various facts and circumstances that got us to jan 6th. we will look at the various agencies, the metropolitan police department, the department that defends the fbi.
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we need to look for those that are at the committee. it will be bad, but i assure the public that the evidence will lead us. >> when you see the evidence, where it leads you, would you go as far as potentially subpoenaing the former president trump to appear before the committee? >> the evidence, where ever it leads, i don't want to call a name, we'll let the investigation go forward. that information comes to the fact that the former president trump contributed to what happened on january 6th, and that would be a consideration. if the minority leader, mccarthy's phone call to the white house that we're told occurred, if that becomes part of the evidence and the facts introduced before this committee, then we'll make a
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decision. but we also have to see if there were other members of congress that perhaps contributed to what went on. there have been allegations that some members of congress gave tours of the capitol to people in charge of the insurrection. we also have to get with the department of justice. we're not interested in conflicting with the prosecution. but we think there is significant evidence that they might have been able to ascertain and o that investigation, that could be zer main to our committee, so that -- we'll have the best relationship that we can, but we're not interested in getting into the prosecutorial aspect of what is going on with the capital. >> are you confidence that the
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attorney general and the mieden administration will give you several pieces of investigation. >> they have guilty pleas from witnesses that said they would offer information. we need to see whether or not we can look at some of this information as we do our work. i'm convinced that with the expert investigators they have, and the people we will bring onboard with our committee, we can work together, and it is in all of our best interests that we get to the bottom of what happened. our united states capitol is a citadel of democracy. but now when you see the
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riffraff that broke in, using confederate flags and asuggestioning the police, that's not who we are. part of the select committee's commission is to fix whatever went wrong so it won't ever happen again. >> sir, if you find that members of congress did, in fact, aid members of this mob. this violence mob or ahead of time, what is the remedy for that? what should happen to those members of congress? >> there is several remedies potentially. you can refer that information to the department of justice. you can refer to our ethics committee, but i would hope that even though we have come to this institution that the united states house of representatives we should never foster the
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notion that just because i didn't get my way in an election it is time that we destroy the institution. so i'll go with this committee, and our goal is to preserve our democratic government as we see it now and not let anything interfere with it. not let anything try to misinform the public that somehow because their candidate lost that they took the election. we're better than that, and our select committee has one of the objectives to prove that democracy works in america. >> thank you, chairman were for being with us this hour. we appreciate you taking the time to join us. coming up. an on going pandemic and thousands of cue pans took to
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including the growing toll that the pan determine sick taking on the population. today the protestors were called vulgar thugs. joining me now is morgan ratford with more on this story. what is the latest? >> yeah, we really can't overstate how critical and pivotal this is. they're marching today in havana and this is significant because part of the images that we're getting out now is cubans using a vpn to surpass the block that the government put up. but i think what is important is that not only why this is happening, but why it is happening right now. there is political contention
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about what this is all about. some asked if this is about covid and some asked about communism, this is about both. the cuban people are facing what is a perfect storm of disdisruption. they're also dealing with covid spikes in cases. that was released on sunday from the cuban government. so with the foot shortages taking place people are reaching their breaking point and that caused people to go to the streets and we also saw mirror protests here. listen to what people who went to the streets saying what they were really hoping for. >> everyone in cuba goes out in the street, they're asking for freedom. >> it's hard. there is no food or medicine.
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>> i hope that they finish this for cuba. 60 years is too much. >> i spoke with many sources there on the ground in cuba. i used to live in cuba where fidel castro was still in power, and frankly they said they have never seen anything like this, but they're still skeptical on whether or not this problem can be explored. they are e seeing as we mentioned earlier they shut down the internet. the question is when. can it actually happen in a sustained capacity right now. and one of the most interesting things said to me yesterday is the question about whether or not the pandemic inadvertently forced a change that the embargo could not and did not accomplish. people were so upset because they could not get food,
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resources, or vaccines. and now this called for change is coming from inside instead of outside, casey. >> morgan, thank you very much for that reporting, we really appreciate it. meanwhile, breaking news out of haiti where police arrested a third suspect in ties with the connection of the assassination of president ruiz. they believe they now have a suspect. according to public records there was a man when that name that worked as a doctor in florida, but it's not clear if that is the same man that is now in haitian custody. they say a team of more than two dozen columbians carried out the attack. and in afghanistan, the u.s. withdrawal took another major step forward with general austin
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miller temperatures down. this was a transfer of authority ceremony in ka pull. frank mckenzie is now responsible for u.s. forces in afghanistan. he told the forces they can count on american support in the days ahead. today's ceremony comes less hand two months before the deadline for nearly all troops to leave afghanistan. it also comes as they gain territory there throughout the country. >> another dangerous heat wave is occurring in the west. heave is occurring in the west this...is our shot. the covid-19 vaccines are ready.
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earth. as debates continue in congress on how essential climate change is, states are scrambling to make sure they're local electric grids can handle the heat to protect residents from temperatures that lead to over 100 deaths this summer. i'm joined now by josh letterman who has new reporting on what the western states are doing to prepare their energy grids, and josh carbon. let me start with you, what is the latest reporting you have in terms of how they're trying to handle this? >> we're learning that just about every single part of the electricity system, it works less well when it is really hot, really dry, and especially when you have wild fires that are threatening transmission line
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where some of the lines have been cut and now california has to make up that energy supply from somewhere else into in california in the last most recent heat wave, they avoided blackouts and we're seeing the state scrambling to procure more electricity, signing an emergency electricity and saying they're looking for power plapds that can ramp up and provide more power during 4:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. where you have more energy use and also you have less production from intermittent sources. so california authorities saying that as the early heat events telegraph, it will be more strained than anticipated because of record breaking climb change impacts.
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they're siting things like hydro power generation has dropped more than 1,000 megawatts. because when you have dry conditions you have less water going through hydrofacilities, and authorities at this point not sure that they won't have to impose blackouts. and they're asking california residents today to try to use less electricity in those hours, knock their thermostat to 78 or above, they're facing a real crisis here and they're not exactly sure how to get out of it. >> so, craig, this heat wave is just the latest in a long list already. there is record temperatures in seattle. this is the earliest we have reached a hurricane with the letter e.
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there was the drought, and it's not just us, it is happening in hong kong and new zealand. is this just the hottest summer that we have seen or perhaps the coolest one we're going to have for the rest of our lifetimes? >> well, good afternoon, casey. i think we're see e.g. trends in a disturbing direction. i can have run out of superlatives. now the latest round of extreme temperatures in the southwest. weather comes and goes in cycles, which is disturbing as we know, it took a little look this morning in the past decade and you cannot find a below normal beginning to summer period for over a decade in the western united states. the past ten years have been
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above normal in this part of the country in this time of year. >> so what does this potentially mean for businesses and other places that, you know, have to grapple regularly with weather patterns that don't fit, we have seen some purks, some talked about the surf side, what kind of impacts will with see in areas not used to seeing things like this. >> we're seeing it happen earlier and later. resiliency, mitigation is the key in these areas, trying to separate structures from what they call the land, the forest and urban interface and other
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measure that's can protect structures and property from fire and heat especially. it is really a mitigation strategy that needs to be under way now. and the west it is obviously drought and wildfire. and in parts of the coastal plane, the gulf, it is see level rise. trying to mitigate the risks that come along with these hazards that we seem to be having. >> i did see some of the notes about how unprecedented it was. would they have hit those temperatures? would it have been possible if humans had not created climate change? >> well, you know, there are a lot of factors that go into these extreme temperatures. one is just the inrace in urban
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areas. they hold heat longer, especially in the cooler times of day. so if the temperatures don't drop, you will bounce back and be high ir in the afternoon hours. so urbanization likely results in a gradual increase. we know that we're seeing temperatures rise and especially in parts of the polar regions and the temperature increases that are where people live. so the temperatures can bring about these events more so than in the past. >> here in congress you have a lot of democrats saying it will not do enough to great the problems caused by climate
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change, what is your sense of what the federal government needs to be doing that no other entity is capable of doing? >> i think that mitigation is one area where they have continued to apply funding in the wake of disasters. they are involved in mitigation techniques. that agency has been working very hard to address some of the challenges that exist, especially where the threat is particularly severe. flooding along the gulf coast, the plant coast, and the wild fire areas. it's really trying to prepare for this new norm, right? trying to build structures and communities that can withstand some of these extremes as we go forward in time. >> josh leatherman, thank you both for talking about this.
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with the cdc and the fda saying that right now given the data and the information that we have we do not need to give people a third shot, a boost. >> welcome back, that was dr. fauci backing up the cdc and the fda about the booster shot. despite that guidance, they will brief top officials today on plans to seek emergency approval for a third booster shot to combat the highly contagious
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delta variant. it is taking hold with unvaccinated populations especially vulnerable to outbreaks. right now, joining me is dr. kahn who is the acting director of the state department of health. thank you for being here we really appreciate your time. >> it's my pleasure. >> so let's start with vaccinations. in missouri 49d% of adults fully vaccinated but there are counties where you have as few as 20% vaccinated. when you talk to people hesitant to get the shot, what do they tell you about why they don't want it? >> it is a wide range of ideas and executions. everything from the neglect, to an anti-government attitude. it's all over the place. but what we do know for a fact
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is that there are people, a large number of people who are amenable to changing their opinion especially if they see their peers, people they trust and people they know in their immediate circle of friends and family, and who seem to will living life as close to normal as possible these days. >> what do you think is the biggest charge right now? is it rural communities? is it urban areas. where do you need to do the most work to get the rates of vaccination up? >> i would say both. we have seen them in the ur pan areas. for example, nearly 60% of people are not vaccinated. in the rural areas there are counties right there in missouri where the vaccination rate is higher than 27. they have been in rural, and
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unit. last year they only had the need for five units. so that gives you an idea of what direction this one is going. while hospitalizations stay stable, they're increasing at an alarming pace. err we're worried about what happens two weeks from now. >> can i ask you about children? have you seen a uptick in cases among children? >> that is a very logical conclusion based on the trends that we're seeing, and i might as well mention here that the case is as we move into the second half of july and august we're going to deal with children trying to get caught up on their preschool requirements for vaccinations. that is the ideal time to hit the 12 plus children with the covid vaccine as an extra opportunity, but it stands to reason that we will see an
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increase in cases amongst that unvaccinated crowd. case in point about two weeks ago there was 89 patients admitted to icu beds for covid related conditions. each of those individuals were unvaccinated and they were from a relatively younger age group. so it would not surprise me if we saw more cases. >> thank you for being with us, we appreciate your time today. >> coming up next, an nbc news exclusive on an explosive new book exposing facebook. the founder of the company believing in growth at any cost. . thank you. that was fast! one call to usaa got her a tow, her claim paid... ...and even her grandpa's dog tags back. get a quote.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ just two pills for all day pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible. welcome back. president biden is holding a meeting discussing a nationwide rise with violent crime and his attorney general merrick garland and other law enforcement and he delivered some remarks at the toch meeting. let's bring in shannon pettypiece at the white house and we are waiting for a printout, but we have reports from inside of the room, and what the latest? >> well, he didn't take any question, but he did use a point to address some situations in cuba and haiti. on cuba, he called these remarkable protests, and he said that the u.s. stands with the people of cuba, and he is
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calling on the government to refrain from violence. and with haiti, he is offering to send any help for the people of haiti who deserve peace and security, and reaffirming that stance. so this is all coming before he is meeting with law enforcement leaders and community groups to talk about the rise in violent crime that has been occurring across the country. one of the points the administration officials is going to tell us that the president is going to tell us is to use the local leaders to use the $350 billion in the covid relief bill passed in march, to use the state and local funding with for things like hiring police and implementing some of the community programs that administration says are shown to work. certainly, that is a priority as well in the white house right
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now trying to address the issue of violent crime, and politically, it is something that republicans have been trying to seize on and make a key message as they are heading into 2022. >> all right. shannon pettypiece at the white house for us, and thank you for the update for us, and we appreciate it. now, to this story, facebook is facing incredible scrutiny from sill conn valley and capitol hill for the practices, but a facebook operation that includes interviews from facebook employees results in a new book coming out tomorrow called "the ugly truth." and we have a rare on camera response from facebook itself, and now we are joined outside of facebook headquarters in melo,
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california, with jacob ward. what have you learned so far? >> what the company found to be good for the bottom line and yet worrying for the not being good for world in general. over and over again in silicon valley, you know it is an engineering culture and data is going to win the argument, and that is a favorite phrase famous at facebook, but in the case of face:00 boo, it is actually running an experiment at one point that showed that people were less engaged when they saw more uplifting news, but actually more engaged when they saw quote, unquote news that was bad for the world. so we asked facebook and the representatives of facebook about the tension within the company. this is what they said. >> in order to keep being profitable, they need you to keep being on facebook, and if
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that is more news that is bad, that is what they will show you. >> it is not in facebook's standpoint from the representational or financial standpoint to push the users to negative content. >> people are complaining about how divisive the world has become, and does facebook bear any responsibility for that? what we have seen on the platform is the world coming closer and individuals building community. >> now it is really true here that, kasie, president trump looms large nest the book. he was the ultimate wren inch the works for the company that is, that had been built on the assumption that more information, and more discussion and more sharing of information would be better for the world, and president trump short circuited all of it, and you have extraordinary anecdotes about how he showed up with a gift from mark zuckerberg which is internal data from facebook
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showing that he was the most engaging global leader in the world, and that is evidently softened the president up to hear mark zuckerberg's message to him at the white house. these sorts of allegations are just chock a block in the book, and facebook sas that they have cherry picked the facts here, and the authors of the book say they have spoken to more than 400 employees and have brought you the facts. >> and in 1986, how did that change the strategy? >> well, it is exactly what you would imagine, right? a nightmare scenario, andit is only after that president trump is banned for two years, and they describe internal machinations to accommodate the president wherever possible, but facebook says no, they made a
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