governors and mayors to discuss the infrastructure push. i'll be talking to new jersey governor phil murphy this hour and there are a few coronavirus concerns across the country, as well with the delta variant causing cases to double in the past two weeks. millions of parents are wondering if it's safe to send children too young to be vaccinated back to school in the fall, and who is behind the disappearance of a ransomware cyber gang responsible for massive attacks on u.s. targets. is it the u.s. cyber command, the putin government or is the group simply going dark offline after feeling the heat? we'll have a live report from moscow, but let's begin with the action right now in washington with nbc capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell and nbc correspondent peter alexander co-host of "weekend today." peter, let's talk about what the white house wants to get with the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the new plan through

congress on to the desk of the president to rack up a big legislative win before the august recess and september and how can they get both at the same time with different coalitions. >> andrea, exactly right. that is what the president and the white house is facing at this time. the president within the next hour will be going behind this effort after going to meet with the senate democratic caucus on capitol hill to focus these $4 trillion in new spending as it relates to the first infrastructure package and that bipartisan deal that has $600 billion in traditional infrastructure roads, bridges and other items beyond that and also this $3.5 million and while we don't have specifics on $3.5 trillion and what exactly would be in there, this is what the president has referred to as items that would address child care and elder care and climate change, universal pre-k, two years of free community college

as well here. fundamentally the challenge for the president here is in order to pass this $3.5 trillion effort he'll need to keep all 50 democrats onboard to make it a democratic do it alone package, as it were. already on that issue, there are some challenges from progressives. is it enough money? bernie sanders, the progressive from vermont, and his initial reaction to this figure has been a positive one for the white house describing this as a pivotal moment. beyond that, there's the challenge of moderates. do moderates think this is too much money and do republicans stay onboard with that initial infrastructure bill, as well. so this is a tightrope that the white house, andrea, will be over the next several weeks and this is real progress as the president prepares to meet with mayors and governors on this topic today. the white house touting that roughly 269 bipartisan mayors and the national governor's

association are behind that initial infrastructure plan in new spending, andrea. >> peter, one is they can do this without breaking the filibuster if they get everybody together because it's a budget bill so they can use that reconciliation, but they can't do it for voting rights. the president giving this passionate speech on voting rights and we'll have more on that later and is there any give at all and he'll face questions about that for sure without changing filibuster rules if it's just for voting rights, that has no future. >> i think you're right. a lot of us took note and the president, his most impassioned speech to date he delivered on this issue saying this was basically the issue of this day right now. it was time for america to act because it was voting rights that were at stake. he didn't mention the filibuster there and in conversations with white house officials, what they tell you is that they don't want to focus on the mechanics on this. they want to focus on the

message and what they're trying to accomplish here, but certainly on that issue, the real challenge is you would need all 50 democrats to be onboard if they were to change the senate filibuster rules and that would require joe manchin, kyrsten sinema and they have strong reservations and oppose changes to the filibuster. so this may happen now as the white house would like it to and more likely it becomes a mid-term issue as the president has indicated this is a priority item that will be on the line in 2022, andrea. >> peter, thanks so much for starting us off. leigh ann, let's start with what's happening on the hill where the democrats are waiting to talk to the president and chuck schumer is keeping everyone together on the larger bill while not ruffling feathers among those moderate republicans who support the smaller, bipartisan plan. that's quite a balancing act. >> it sure is, andrea, and you

will see the tension between the progressives and the moderates, but last night when the democrats on the budget committee came out and showed their support and solidarity for this $3.5 trillion human infrastructure plan, that was not only solidarity among the democrats on the budget committee, but it was also a symbolic sign of support between moderates like senator john warner -- senator mark warner of virginia and senator bernie sanders of vermont who leads that committee came out to the same number, but there will be a lot of challenges to get the rest of the democrats onboard, and they're hoping that their leadership enables them to do so. we caught up with joe manchin who has been critical throughout this entire process to see if $3.5 trillion is something he can support. let's listen to what he said. >> what i heard about it this morn organization late last night, my staff said we're anxiously to basically review

it. they've worked hard it. we want to see it and i've been very clear that to make sure whatever we do will be competitive. >> is it too high? >> is $3.5 trillion too high? >> it depends on how you pay for it. >> senator manchin says he wants to see how it's paid for. i asked him if it has to be completely paid for for him to support it. he said there are no red lines and he refused to box himself in, but that's exactly what president biden is coming up on capitol hill today to do is to ensure unity among the caucus especially at these early stage e andrea, because this is just a top line number. we haven't seen the buckets of how much is going to be spent among each category and especially the details so they have a long way to go to keep their entire caucus together. meanwhile, as you mentioned, separately they're still working on this $557 bipartisan

infrastructure plan and they want to make sure that they can get both of those through congress, andrea. >> leigh ann caldwell, thanks so much. you have a busy day up there and there's a lot we don't know with this massive infrastructure bill. >> not only child care and also those taking on the enormous challenge of taking care of elderly or disabled family members. >> joining me now is tina chen, president of the time's up assistant to president obama. first of all, what are you hearing from the senators and their staff, their members on how much money is carved out for home caregivers. >> thank you, andrea, and i will say good to be with you on my first visit back since inauguration day 2017. we don't know still, what exactly is going to be included

in that $3.5 trillion. i'm here today and i just came from the department of commerce where i sat with secretary raymundo and the business council which is 320 business leaders across the country who are advocating for caregiver investments and our message is investing in this care infrastructure is good for business. dara crusher of uber sort of laid out how this, if you invest in it, companies are seeing the roi when they invest in caregiving, the government needs to see the roi and mcdonald's is experiencing the worst, you know, most challenging labor force, workforce hiring experience they've had in decades and they need caregiver investments so they can getmore workers into mcdonald's restaurants. >> i mean, this was really brought home with the pandemic and where so many people were not just home and not able to go to their offices, but involved

in homeschooling and they had other members of the family that need caregiving, whether it's a child or elderly parent or another relative and the burden on women in particular has just been incredible, but as you point out, it's a huge business issue. >> it absolutely is, and that's why, business leaders have come together in an unprecedented way to say they support friday's build back better plan and the infrastructure proposals he has put on the table which as you point out go from child care to elder and disabled care to paid leave, to support more caregivers with fair wages and labor protections. that entire package is on the table from the white house. we are hoping that the senators and members of congress will pay attention to what their business leaders are saying and include robust investments in that infrastructure package to come? >> isn't some of the labor shortage also caused by people who don't feel they can come

back into the physical workplace because of the demands at home? >> absolutely. we know it already. it's especially falling hard on women especially women of color. we know there are 3 million women who have left the workforce in the last year and a half. andrea, women's labor force participation is at levels we have not seen since the 1980s. we wiped out three decades of progress in a single year and that's not going to come back unless we give women and other workers the caregiving support that they need to come back into the workforce and guess what? as the point was made with secretary raymundo, that's not great for individual families and businesses and we need it for the u.s. economy to remain competitive globally. other countries in the world are far ahead of us on caregiving supports and they'll jump ahead in their economic growth and far outstrip us if we don't invest and modernize our caregiving

infrastructure in this country. >> as they wait for a cbo score and the pay force and people like senators manchin and sinema say it's got to be paid for and they'll be being looking at the fine print, how do you explain the economic impact and the growth factors to the economy of getting this done? >> so, look, we issued a report yesterday from time's up where we put back the better plan through the economic analysis and we showed that in the first year alone, 1.6 million new jobs will get created and that nearly 3 million workers especially women who are excluded from the workforce because of caregiving will come back into the workforce and when you have that kind of growth, economic growth, right? we are going to see them increase tax revenues and increase economic stimulus activity and these investments will actually pay for themselves and i would suggest over time. that's what the business leaders told secretary raymundo this

morning and when they have made investments in their own companies in care giving they see the returns right away and if we invest as a government, i would submit we will see the payoff. we will see increased tax revenues and we will see the growth in the economy that will offset that initial investment. >> tina chen, thank you so much. there could be no better advocate than you. you know your way around this town. there is breaking news this hour to protect afghan translators and we've been talking about this so much, protecting them from murders and assassinations by the taliban. dan, what do we know about operation allies refuge. you've been working on this. when can these translators expect action? >> that's right, andrea. the white house is saying these flights are going to happen and the first flights will happen this month. so this is the most concrete statement they've made yet about

when they are actually going to start this evacuation. however, still a lot of questions here. they're not saying where the afghans are going to be flown to so we don't know what countries they've flown to, and we don't know if they might be flown to u.s. territory, and even to guam as a lot of advocates and lawmakers have called for and at the moment they've named the operation, as you say and they're saying that these flights for afghans who have applied for visas and who work for the u.s. and who worked for the u.s. military or u.s. government will be evacuated so that they can get their visas processed in a safe place. >> we know from the state department that 9,000 have been in the process of going through the visa applications. there are another 9,000 still to come. visa applications were held up for years in some cases and certainly during the pandemic when the kabul embassy was operational and plus their

families. this is what former president george w. bush also had to say speaking to a german television reporter about the withdrawal from afghanistan and about the effect on women. i'm afraid afghan women and girls will suffer unspeakable harm. >> this is a mistake, the withdrawal? >> i think it is. because i think the consequence will be unbelievably bad, and i'm sad. >> dan, it's so unusual because president bush has not been speaking out at all about his predecessor, but he feels passionate about this, and this is something laura bush worked on so hard and i was there in kabul with her as she was opening and expanding co-education. so this is obviously, a critical problem. >> it is. there are two issues here, right? what do you do to to protect all of the afghans who worked for the u.s. and who worked with

diplomats and soldiers who risked their lives and lost their lives. what do you do with afghans, including afghan women who worked for or were associated with causes and organizations and efforts and ngos that were very much part of the u.s. mission and the nato mission and there are these democracy, nation building and civil society programs? those afghan women, in a sense were relying on the u.s. to keep them safe in some sense, and so that is another question and will the biden administration expedite visas for the afghan women who face credible threats and that's another question we don't know and will they expedite visas for those people? >> as you were reporting a couple of days ago, kuwait and the uae might be two countries that might take them. we have to confirm whether or not they agree. dan, thank you so much for all

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we'll face another test in 2022, another wave of unprecedented voter suppression and raw and sustained aversion. we have to prepare now. >> aside from the rhetoric, the president did not mention supporting changes to the filibuster rules so that democrats could pass legislation to protect voting rights now blocked by republican opposition in state after state and of course, in the congress, as well. this as texas democrats remain in washington camped out in their attempt to block new voter restrictions from becoming law in texas at least for now. joining me now trey martinez-fisher. thank you very much. i appreciate you being here. first of all, are you satisfied with the president's spech even though he did not mention the filibuster. >> first, let me tell you, it is an honor for me and texas democrats to stand with president biden and vice president harris and reaffirm their commitment to voting

rights, and so, listen, that's a tough spot. the administration has acted and they have led with this and they've led with purpose and the u.s. house has led with purpose and they've taken the steps to pass the resolution to the senate. we know where we are and we are deadlocked in the senate at 50/50 and of course, the president can amplify this message all day long and it's up to the senate to act and i think they need to act with a sense of urgency, and i am hopeful that that is happening and as you know, things don't move fast in washington, d.c., and it is very clear to me with voting rights, but hope is not lost. >> here's what senate republican leader mitch mcconnell had to say today which might kill a lot of hope calling the president's speech utter nonsense and irresponsible. >> yesterday the president of the united states delivered a speech that was set in an

alternative universe. he called the mainstream state laws the most significant test of our democracy since the civil war? really? what utter nonsense. it would be laugh out loud funny if it wasn't so completely and totally irresponsible. >> do you find it laugh out loud funny? i will say that mitch mcconnell having to defend president trump for all those years, he knows a lot about nonsense, so we have to give him that, but at the end of the day, we're talking about the right to vote. we're talking about democracy in america. we're talking about from the days of frederick douglass to the suffragettes, to the folks who gave their life for the voting rights exact now we're here for s1, for the people. listen, i appreciate the theater going on here, but we need to talk about the leaders who are

moving this forward and just think about, you know, i appreciate how speaker pelosi is quarterbacking on this issue, having the sense and the strategy to start talking about a clyburn resolution saying we can carve out the filibuster for voting rights and there's nothing irresponsible and nonsensical about that and that is a terrific strategy as we head into the final weeks before the august recess. >> and the vice president this hour met with disabled voting rights activists. after meeting with you, did you get a sense of what she means when she's hinted she's talking to senators. is she trying to work on this filibuster issue? >> that is very clear to me. vice president harris has received a standing ovation for her remarks and most importantly took the time on an unscheduled visit, and 90 minutes is a lifetime to have a convening of

the president of the united states and has reaffirmed her commitment and she's challenged us to speak up and speak out and we're challenged in washington, d.c. if you look at the democratic cause us it's african-american, latinos coming together and we are a model for this nation and we want to rally the nation and the president and the vice president have the bully pull pill and it is our job to rally the nation and when we do our job the senate will hear us so let's just keep doing our job. >> okay. thanks very much for being with us. texas representative trey martinez-fisher, thanks for taking time. a modern-day whodunit. a ransomware group knocked online. who forced them to go dark? a live report from moscow. we'll let you know when president biden arrives on capitol hill. will he push the reform with senate democrats as voting rights take center stage. that's coming up. this is "andrea mitchell

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attacks on u.s. targets have vanished from the internet. the group called revil, short for ransomware evil is responsible for the attack on one of america's largest beef producers, jbs. just days ago president biden demanded vladimir putin shut down ransomware groups that attacked american companies. who is responsible for those going dark? did president biden advise them to take them down or did revil shut themselves down to simply rebrand later? joining me is matt botner and consultant to the fbi, "messing with the enemy" surviving in a world of russians, terrorist, hackers and fake news. what are you hearing from moscow? is it at all likely that putin would take this opportunity to listen to joe biden's request or demand and actually move against

these criminals? he's always been discounting control over them. >> andrea, thank you. we actually just received a very interesting email from flash point, a cybersecurity firm that monitors the russian hacking groups and it remains offline today and more interesting is the user on this russian hacking forum that kind of acted as the group's spokesperson was banned from this forum yesterday. the analysts note that this does not actually suggest a law enforcement action, but the moderators of the forum themselves are worried that that account could fall under some kind of law enforcement jurisdiction, for example, if the user had been arrested, but more directly to your point on the official level in moscow, things are surprisingly quiet and we've not seen president putin take credit whatsoever and that is an interesting point and it did come out at today's daily kremlin press briefing with the

spokesman being asked about it saying he didn't know anything about it, and he hadn't heard about any group being taken offline. russia views cyber crime as unacceptable and reiterated the russian talking point that we've been hearing since the summit that russia wants to have a cybersecurity dialogue with the united states and he also pointed out that phone call last week with president biden and president putin and said that this doyling on has begun. so that's all we've got at the moment, but the key point is president putin has not taken credit for this at all. >> and clint, is it possible that u.s. cyber command did bring this group site down? do they have that capability? >> andrea, they likely do, but i think it's totally ambiguous at this point that four things that we think and vladimir putin told them enough is enough right now and separately, it could be something that the u.s. has done

collectively. all indications it seems that the word may have caught up with the ransomware gangs and revil saying we've got to shut down and it's time to go aground. i think the latter and i don't have the ability to know which of those scenarios play out and it's not uncommon to go offline for a while particularly when the heat is intense on them and re-emerge somewhere else under a different collective name and re-establishing and popping up your business later on in a different location. i don't think we'll know for some time, but something that's definitely happened and it's definitely happened since president biden made that call to vladimir putin. >> if it were cyber command, very likely, you wouldn't be claiming credit or however you'd want to phrase it. there would be retaliation and escalation. everyone in the sort of putin nsc and nsa world knows who did this most likely, right?

>> it could be. it could be a little bit ambiguous in the sense that they knew some action would occur and it seemed to happen across the entire system of operations and that suggested it was a coordinated effort. everyone is being quiet and reports from moscow aren't particularly clear and no one is talking about it and it will be two, three, maybe four weeks before we have an understanding about which of these scenarios might play out. >> and how well defended are we? it's been shocking to me that solar winds and other hacks, ransomware and otherwise, government hacks were brought to the attention of our government by people in the private sector, by these, you know, these private companies, forensic companies and not aerodetection. >> that's right, andrea. we are terribly defended as a country because most of our

assets are in the dotcom space. so that meanses it doesn't necessarily have protection around those areas and it's a coordination with the sector. most of the cyber investigation, mostly defenses are from private sector companies so they're going to know and have better awareness all of the time than the government. the government has not -- the u.s. government has not invested and it is very tough for them to feel such a degree and we have a true umbrella around cybersecurity in this country. your point about whether one country or another talks about the cyber attacks and they may or may not have launched and they have vulnerability and particularly retaliation. >> other govern ams, whether it's russia or the u.s., it is very difficult to parse out. ? we really appreciate. a great mystery is still to be unveiled. matt botn, er and clint voss,

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dr. michelle fiskus with was chris hayes last night. >> that has now evolved into the department of health not only pulling back on messaging to teenagers about getting covid-19 vaccine, but creating various for ways to access the vaccine and has evolved into a moratorium on messaging for any kind of vaccine to children. >> it's pretty shocking. joining mae now dr. vin gupta, pulmonologist and assistant professor of health metric sciences at university of washington. when we start firing health officials because they're trying to tell teenagers to take care of themselves, where do you go? >> good afternoon, andrea. this is a root cause of a rising problem with people with m.d.s behind their name, scott atlas,

jay butter, dr. connelly, donald trump's former white house doctor, they have stopped being doctors. they've turned into politicians in white coats. so we need some way to account for this now. this has been happening now for 19 months. this will continue and there will be people with m.d.s behind their names that are not doctors and not clinically caring for patients and many of these that i mentioned and yet they'll provide shelter for politics. so we need national boards to actually certify these physicians to practice medicine and take away licenses and letters of censure and accountability and none of the docs i mentioned have the respect of their peers and that's the big currency here. if you're in medicine and healthcare, you want to have the respect of your peers and none of them do. they're largely disowned from medicine and we need make it clear here that there are clear consequences if you're going to

provide shelter and really promote the misinformation. >> you raise a good point. the analogy i would make is what would happen with rudy giuliani with d.c. now the bar association is analogous to the medical professional societies. why can't you -- the equivalent of disbar a doctor who goes into the white house briefing room and tells a doctor to take hydroxychloroquine. >> up until just this pandemic, we had to wrestle with this and yes, there are bad actors with this and they're in the dark corners of the internet and rarely are they making headline news in d.c. these policies are ridiculous. they're against what you learn in the first era of medical school and basic public facts and what i learned is the concept of my body, my choice and the concept of personal freedom is being disported. people are actively doing things that will harm them. dr. gupta, we'll go to the white

house briefing room where olivia rodrigo is there at the invitation of the white house and dr. fauci and we will re-play that for you in a few moments, but what she's trying to do is, you know, dr. gupta, obviously the importance of trying to reach young people where they are. she has something like 28 million followers. >> that's part of the comprehensive strategy, when i talk to colleagues, it's threat perception. we've been messaging that most vulnerable are our grandparents and parents, for example, that they're most likely to end up in intensive care and we're strong pivot now and that message did have an impact on health, and why would i take the vaccine? the vaccine seems more unknown than the virus and i would probably not end up in the hospital. now we have to pivot. in addition to celebrities

making the message, we have to draw the best messaging campaign and targeted toward young people and we're using graphics and we need to arm authentic messengers and clinicians with images and talking directly to younger people about the ways in which covid can impact that. >> well, dr. gupta. it's an important message and thanks for bringing that to us today and we're watching for the president's arrival and later he'll head to a meeting of goners and mayors and phil murphy will join me next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. or fun. daring, or thoughtful. sensitive, or strong.

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i am beyond honored and humbled to be here today to help spread the message about the importance of youth vaccination. i'm in awe of the work president biden and dr. fauci have done and was happy to help lend my support to this important initiative. it's important to have conversations with friends and family members encouraging all communities to get vaccinated and actually get to a vaccination site which you can do more easily before given how many sites we have and how easy

they are to find at vaccines.gov. thank you, jen, for having me today and thank you all for helping me share this important message. thank you. >> there you go. olivia rodrigo at the white house with a message about the vaccination and the teen phenom taping a message with dr. fauci and the president this past hour. president biden will be arriving at the capitol for lunch with senate democrats who hammered out an infrastructure bill. deso revitalize their communities after the pandemic. and meeting with governor phil murphy who joins me now. governor thank you for being with us. the white house reported this past spring that gave new jersey a d-plus grade on infrastructure. this obviously goes back decades. so you've inherited this. how important is it for you to

get the infrastructure bill through in terms of, you know, trying to rebuild bridges and get that turnpike done and everything else we know. >> good to be with you, andrea. may i just say for the record this is the only i am olivia rodrigo will open for me. i'm humbled. >> you don't know that. it could happen again. >> listen, it's incredibly important. we're the densest state in america, and the densest region in america. we've got roads, bridges, tunnels, two tunnels beneath the hudson river built in 1910. we need to build new ones. we've got bridges all over our state. i'm sure an infrastructure bill is important to all american states, and i'm honored to be here at the white house to have that discussion. but i know for sure, it's a potential game-changer for new jersey. >> what do you see to senators manchin, sinema and others who are demanding exact pay for,

which, frankly, is unlike given the situation and what we're waiting from the cbo? >> andrea, i would say with great respect the needs are overwhelming. the last time america really focused in a comprehensive way on infrastructure was 70 years ago. and a lot has changed, needless to say. and i just think it's such a bipartisan opportunity. yeah, you want to do it in a fiscally responsible way. but, boy, getting the shovels in the ground, building those new tunnels, bridges, roads, you name it, they're game-changers. broadband in rural sectors. even though we're the densest state in america, we have rural counties that would benefit enormously from these investments. i would say, listen, this is one of those moments we've got to trust each over and jump into it. >> given the coronavirus and how badly parts of your state was hit and you recovered wonderfully. what are you seeing from the delta variant and vaccination

rates, you're in the middle of the tourist season with wonderful beaches. >> you betcha, the jersey shore is alive and having a great summer. as i mentioned we're the densest state in america, that's a good thing, but not in a pandemic. it's the delta variant, the dominant variant in new jersey. andrea, we have 300 people in the hospital, to the best of my knowledge, all of them, every one of them, is unvaccinated. i would plead with folks. we've made enormous progress. we've got well over 70% of our adult eligible population that's fully vaccinated. we're still at it every single day. i would plead with people gets vaccinated, the vaccines protect you against the variants especially against hospitalizations or worse. that would be my plea. >> there's also a filing by some parents of new jersey school children, trying to reverse any kind of mask mandate going up

against you and state officials to prevent from you instituting any mask mandates for children who may be returning to school during a potential surge. or people who are among unvaccinated teachers. how are we going to handle that? >> well, we put out our recommendations a couple of weeks ago, as best we can project from the end of june to what school will look like in early september. and we recommended no masks. and i hope it stays that way. please, god, it stays that way. having said that, we reserve the right to -- you know, we don't dictate the terms here. the virus does. so, we're going to monitor this like a hawk every single day. the good news about masking, you can turn on a dime, unlike an hvac system or an old school system where you need a long runway to get that fixed. a mask decision you can make overnight literally. i hope we don't have to. believe me, that is my strong hope and recommendation right now is no masking.

but again, we've got to dot right thing by public health first and foremost. >> and to what effect -- to what extent, i should say, is the rise in inflation and the labor shortage which are, of course, linked, but how is that affecting the restaurant business and the tourist season? >> yeah, i mean, it's real, without question. our economy is snapping back at a record pace, particularly on the shore, on our lakes, on our main streets. and there's the labor market having a hard time keeping up to it. i think it's due to a number of reasons, i think it's not one but many, one of which when you've got an economy which is rising like the one we have, folks actually exhibit confidence. folks have a confidence to say, you know what, i can do better than the job i'm in. -i can upscale myself. it's real. we're working with restaurants and bars, i signed a bill a

couple weeks ago allowing teenagers to work more hours per week in the summer. we'll stay at it. i think it passes. i don't think passes overnight but i think the labor market will catch up with the economy. >> well, governor, it's always a pleasure. we love new jersey. many of our team members are in new jersey. so, we've got a lot of constituents who are here on this show. thank you so very much. thanks for being with us today. >> thank you so much for having he, andrea. >> that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports," remember to follow the show on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports. and 23 years of msnbc being on the air. lawrence o'donnell writes. and kasie hunt is up and away with "mtp daily" on msnbc. t all. it was an easy decision to apply with sofi loans, just based on the interest rate and how much i would be saving.

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