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cars and caused buildings to collapse. dozens of people are missing. earlier today, the president touted the expanded child tax credit on the same day that millions of americans are seeing the first monthly payments under that program show up in their bank accounts. he talked about how things -- how this effort, rather, will have a huge impact on families. >> millions of children and families starting to day, their lives are about to change forethe better. our country will be better off too. >> the senate will take up the bipartisan infrastructure package next week as senate democrats finalize the details of a $3.5 trillion bill focusing on other infrastructure priorities n just a moment, we'll talk about that with virginia democratic senator tim cane. and all of this comes as a soon to be released book details how worried the nation's highest ranking military officers were
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about donald trump and what he may have been thinking in the days leading up to the january 6th riot. but we begin this hour with the new money many families will be begin seeing in bank accounts. the expected child tax credit. joining me now, my good friend, msnbc business correspond and anchor of the 9:00 a.m. hour here. big news as this money hits the bank accounts of families. take us through how this expanded child tax credit program will work. >> it's going to impact a lot of families. almost 90% of children in in this country. we always have the child tax credit. you would get it when you filed your taxes as part of your refund of credit. the issue was for the most vulnerable, poorest families out there who might not make enough money to file taxes, even though they were due that money, they didn't have access to it. now it's going to be distributed as monthly payments. so who gets it? any family who is making as a house hold income $150,000 or
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less are eligible. and for children ages 6 and under will be getting $300 a month. for kids 6 to 17, $250 a month. if you already filed your taxes, it's automatic. you'll get it. you'll get it sooner if you do direct deposit. but if you haven't or you haven't filed your taxes, can you go to childtaxcredit do the could have, fill out a form and that money should be coming to you. >> the president, stephanie, talked about this and said it would be transformtive. let me play for you what he had to say on that front. >> this would be the largest ever one year decrease in child poverty in the history of the united states. it's not even close. the benefits will be felt for years. >> the benefits will be felt for years. let's talk about that for a moment. just how will this extra money
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make a difference both in the short term and the years ahead as the president said there after this temporary expansion ends? and if it is not renewed by congress in the years ahead. >> listen, it's going to have a huge impact. right? implementing this is going to cost $100 billion. you would like to know what childhood poverty costs us in this country he every single year? almost a trillion dollars. this program expected to cut childhood poverty by 50%. the big issue is this is part of the american rescue plan. this is going to be massively helpful for the next six months. but in the next infrastructure package that goes through, it's going to expire which has many people asking is this something that is a must have that maybe the president would consider carving out, doing as a separate deal down the line? if he doesn't get the
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3.5 trillion deal through? >> we'll see what happens in the next six months. thank you for breaking that down for us. the first payments of the expanded child tax credit are going out. as democrats negotiate the fibl details of a $3.5 trillion bill that will focus on a host of other infrastructure priorities. joining us to take a closer look at all of this, the white house correspondent for the pbs news hour. founder of punch bowl news which just reached a milestone of 100,000 subscribers in six months. i'm one of those as well. actually, jake, let me start with you. republicans are opposed to the huge reconciliation infrastructure bill. utah republican senator mitt romney appeared to throw up a red flag when it comes to the bipartisan fruk package when he said this to our colleagues
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earlier. watch. >> the bipartisan plan will only be successful if it's paid for without raising taxes and without adding the debt. and i will only vote for it if we get there. and we're still working on that. the democrats' plan for $3.5 trillion on top of that is without question going to be financed by more debt and higher taxes. that is something i'm going to oppose. my guess is every single republican will oppose it. i think a lot of democrats will oppose it as well. they may get their own twist by their leadership to vote for it anyway. >> so it seems that this is significant given that he helped negotiate the bipartisan plan. what's going on here? will democrats be able to get everyone onboard when it comes to the reconciliation bill? >> so, this is a complicated situation that is unfolded this morning on capitol hill. try to break it down in human terms here. so chuck schumer said on monday he was going to throw up a test vote. he was going to schedule a test vote for wednesday.
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he's trying to get them to finish it. they're saying, wait a second, we're not ready. we're not going to vote for that test vote unless we know what that deal looks like which is not a crazy position to have to be honest with you. they will all vote for it tend of the day if they get to an agreement. they're saying right now we don't want to vote for it. we don't know what it's going to look like. this afternoon for three hours, that group -- that bipartisan group met with white house officials. the big sticking point at this point and why romney is raising taxes that they -- that some people want to go to that which won't happen, the bill originally called for more irs money. they come and collect unpaid taxes. we don't really know how much revenue that's going to generate. we don't feel totally comfortable with it. and that is where this stuff
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right now and that's where this group is looking for alternative pay fors, alternative ways to offset that spending. to be honest, we're not really getting closer, we're in this weird pause. >> speaking of that pause, want to play a little bit of what senate budget committee chair bernie sanders told my colleague last night about the hopes for this reconciliation infrastructure bill. watch. >> at a time when so many americans believe the government has forgotten them, turn their backs on their needs, what i hope this legislation will do is restore the fate of the american people that the government can represent ordinary americans not just the wealthy and the powerful and their lob yists. >> this bill expected to include the president's other priorities including his plan to help families and fight climate change. for joe biden though, is this about trying to position himself as a trance formational
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president? what is the thinking here? >> that's a great question. president biden is saying we need transformational change. he said this is about working class americans who are trying to survive, who are struggling in the pandemic, who are trying to put their lives back together. and who need help from the federal government to step in to provide help when communities have been disproportionately impacted by some of the things we have done in our past including we talk about where highways went. a lot of this money is also about redoing some of the racial justice issues. that have been in the past. the other thing that i think when i talk to white house officials here is this idea of president biden not being lbj but understanding that his position in this history and in this moment where he didn't think he was going to be president where he's now this
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kind of this emotional president connecting with americans all over the country, he understands it will be part of the legacy. if he wants his legacy to be passing big bills, he wants the legacy to be maybe doing too much but definitely not too little. so what the white house officials tell me is the president understands that he is spending a lot of money and asking for a lot of money. he thinks this is the moment to step up in the middle of a pandemic to give americans the help they need. >> jake, let's switch gears for awe moment. >> kevin mccarthy has a busy day. he had lunch with donald trump at his new jersey golf club before he heads back to washington in a few hours to have dinner at the white house with german chancellor angela merkel this evening. this comes though as he still has yet to make his five appointmentes to the house select committee to investigate the january 6th riot. what more you are hearing about the strategy when it could toms this committee and whether or not he'll make good faith
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appointees? ? >> well, i think he'll make appointees and it will be up to everybody else to decide whether they're good faith. i think he's going to pick people who he thinks could fight for what republicans believe and republicans as we all know, we all know what the view is on january 6th. . many of them have down played the incident, said it's not as bad as the day i experienced and many of us up here experienced. but i do expect muk karnlgy to -- mccarthy to pick people in the next week or so. i don't believe the plan was to talk about the january 6th meeting. i'm sure he'll get a lot of questions about that next week. the interesting thing is mccarthy is frustrated that he gets asked about trump. all the time. why am i getting asked about trump and why does no one else get asked about trump? he's a close political ally to the president this day. you don't see mitch mcconnell going up. there he did dinner last night. trump had dinner with lindsey
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graham this week. there are connections there between people on capitol hill and donald trump. mccarthy is very close to the president and seeks advice and counsel. >> all right. making a little news on our program today. thank you. joining us no you to continue the conversation is virginia democratic senator tim cane. he is a member of the budget. senator, great to you have back on the program. thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> republican leader mitch mcconnell was asked about the reconciliation bill during an appearance on fox news this morning. i want to play for you and viewers some of what he had to say about it. listen. >> it's an introduction of socialism and to america done on a one party basis in a congress that is virtually tied. you know, senate is 50/50. the senate has awe couple seats, democratic majority. they didn't get a mandate to do
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this stuff. they're not going to have any republicans help them do this stuff. this is a left wing dream of bernie sanders fulfilled, they hope, on a very narrow vote with no, you know, no room to spare, jam this down the throats of the american people. >> i want to give you a chance to respond to that, sir. that's what senator mcconnell says about the reconciliation. what is your response and what should americans know about what will be in this legislation? >> that was almost word for word what republicans said about social security in the 1930s. and they tried to stop it. and, yet, what it did was it cut the elderly poverty rate from 50% to 10%. the claim that reconciliation is wrong. when the republicans had a narrow majority, they used reconciliation to tax cuts for the rich. and they used reconciliation to try to take health care away from 30 million people. thank god we stopped them on
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that. reconciliation is a tool they can vote yes. they can vote no. but i feel really good about this hard work that we've done to put together a great package. let me talk about one piece that i view as so powerful. this will be the biggest investment in america's children that we will have made in the history of the united states. when you combine the effects of the child tax credit which is kicking in today and people are receiving support for children who live with them, with expanded childcare funding and universal pre-k and helping parents pay for kids to go to college. this will be to children what social security was to seniors. this is just one part of the bill. this is going to be enormously popular with americans. i'm so excited to be on the budget committee and having worked with my colleagues to craft a framework. we have a because to go. i'm feeling really excited about
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it. >> you are concerned about the pricetag of this bill and how do you convince democrats, members of your own caucus, who may be a little bit skiddish about the price snag. >> you know, what i said going into this, i was sort of in a moderate position. i said once in a century pandemic that killed 600,000 people and caused a mass he could catastrophe in the economy, we should go for it. the bipartisan infrastructure bill, i'm not sure it's going to be completely paid for. republicans generally don't like pay fors. but on the reconciliation bill, let's go big. but let's pay for it. and as the -- as we work this through, that's a commitment that we have. i think we're going to be able to accomplish it. i feel like we ought to go big.
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this is a moment where millions of people are not working who want to be. people cannot come back into the labor force and we got to build an economy that is more sustainable as the prepandemic economy. >> let's talk about voting rights for a moment. it is another big issue that democrats are focusing on. your colleague georgia senator told axios we can walk and chew gum at the same time. voting rights is bigger than the filibuster. and shame on us if we're more committed to a senate rule than we are to the principles of democracy. the you were also quoted saying you and your colleagues feel like you're on a mission after january 6th. how do you go about accomplishing the mission of protecting voting rights in the midst of stiff republican opposition who are not budging on it? >> first, he is right. january 6th changed the way we look at this issue. the trump big lie about the
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election being stolen that he perpetrated for months led to this violent attack. the second lie is motivating legislatures and states and republicans control everything. to try to take away people's voting rights. they may not be wearing t-shirts and battling -- battering policemen, you know, down with fence posts. but they're using the same big lie to try to curtail our democracy. we take this oath to support and defend the constitution. in the past that, oath was never my job description. the job description is battling for virginia and development and education. after january 6th, that oath is my job description. and we have to, in order to fulfill that oath, protect people's rights to vote. so you're right. we have all 50 democrats onboard with the very robust set of
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protections that include elements of the john lewis act and the for the people act. we don't have a single republican with us. that is no surprise. they're not going to join with us. so i am talking to all of my colleagues and i know reverend and others are too to say we've got to do this. 2,000 senators in our history have been in this chamber. only 100 were here when there was an attempt to attack it to stop the peaceful transfer of power. the weight of history is on our shoulders to try to defend this democracy and voting rights is critical to that. joe manchin is not in favor of getting rid of the filibuster. there are all kinds of filibuster reforms that can be made that the senate is willing to make in the past and we should be willing to make them now. nothing in our oath talks about the filibuster. our oath talks about the defending the constitution. we have an attack on it to overturn the peaceful transfer of power and we have to respond. >> all right. virginia senator tim kaine, we look forward to continuing the
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conversation with you as this moves forward. thank you for your time, sir. >> a bombshell new book on former president trump goes inside the capitol hill insurrection. what the former president was doing while rioters were attacking the capitol. we'll have that coming up. plus, she became the target of an international kidnapping fight after angering the iranian regime with her criticism of the country's awe to beingcy. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. (realtor) the previous owners left in a hurry, so the house comes witho everything you see. follow me. ♪
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a. it's a story made for the movies. four iranian operatives charged by federal prosecutors for planning the abduction of an american journalist here in new york, going so far as to spy on her at the brooklyn home she shares with her family and hash how the plans to whisk her away to venezuela by boat. that journalist is critical of iran's human rights abuses and modesty mandates for women. she joins me now. thank you so much for your time. first of all, how did you initially learn of this threat against you? >> first of all, thank you so much for having me. i actually learned from the fbi when they came to my house and they told me that you're not safe in this house. i was joking from the beginning. i was like we iranians, we were criticizing the government or
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used to receive death threats. and i myself saw my own poster on friday prayer saying god, we executed another iranian journalist who could actually kidnap in iraq to iran. and next is going to be massive. so when even -- [ inaudible ] even the funeral, there was a big poster that said we have to execute her. i said all this to fbi. what's new? then the fbi said, no, you are under surveillance now. and the service hired a private investigator to take photos of your private life. they took even a picture of my stepson and husband. i took them serious. that's why they moved me to safe houses. >> i know that you've been under fbi protection as you said going from safe house to safe house
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for months now. what has that experience been like for your family? do you feel safety or do you feel safer now that these charges are out in the open? do you think that the iranian government based on what the u.s. is alleging is going to back off you now? >> i don't think so. i think the word being safe is a luxury for iranians who criticize the government in iran. to be honest, i strongly believe that once the republic is in power, not only me, noniranians won't be safe. and, of course, i am under fbi protection. i'm very pleased for that. but my family lives there. many journalists activists, dissidents in europe, in turkey. they are not safe. i hope my case actually shed a light on those innocent activists who are under daily death threats. what actually -- i want to
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actually mention that when february february came to me and said that you're not safe, they actually told me that at the same time they found that the same intelligence service group were trying to kidnap three dissidents in canada. and one dissident in the uk. so i'm worried now for them as well. >> i no he that the iranian government called these claims baseless. they've accused american officials of resorting to hollywood like scenarios. the state department said that they are still committed to or wanting to re-enter the jcpoa. they're still open to sanctioning individuals who may have been involved in the plot to kidnap you. but they maintain that re-entering this jcpoa will put the u.s. in a better place to handle situations like this one. what are you -- what are your thoughts on that decision? and what would you wish to see from the biden administration
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broadly speaking when it comes to iran? >> look, i strongly believe that the iranian regime are now challenging the u.s. government. and americans they want to actually see that how the u.s. government reacts. so that is why i demand biden's administration to take strong action because if they don't, then who knows? the regime is going to go after another american citizen. this is the nature of the republic. i was a little disappointed. when i heard the biden administration called this kidnapping law enforcement. it remundz me of the time when one of the political prisoners got murdered in iran prison under torture again the state
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department said we're sore qui for the bad behavior. bad behavior? this is not bad bee haufor. and this is not the kidnapping is not called law enforcement. these actually have significant explanation. these are like torturing and killing regime. biden administration trying to have a deal with them is the one actually ordered the massacre that the mass executions when he was in power. he was the one actually -- he was the head of the judiciary system. there were 1500 people according to reuters got killed in iran protests. sore see what breaks my heart is this. while the regime were trying to kidnap an american citizen, the u.s. government was trying to have a deal with such a regime.
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i want to meet with president biden or secretary blinken and show them the evidence that how they execute innocent people and they arrested their family and warning them if you send vud yoez, if you talk to them, you're going to be in prison as well. >> all right. thank you so much for sharing your story with us. greatly appreciate it. >> thaush so much. >> still ahead, a chilling report on the 2020 election according to a new bombshell book. trump's rhetoric was so disturbing that top generals feared he would stage a coup to stay in office. we'll talk about it with former cia director next. t with former cia director next. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ think of what peanuts have given humanity!
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>> today we're learning new detaulz of how the january 6th riot unfolded by a new book. i alone can fix it. donald trump's catastrophic final year. according to "the washington post," as staff updated president trump on attempts to evacuate pence, trump didn't express any hope that pence was okay. he didn't try to call the vice president he just stayed in the dining room watching television. the post also writes that at no time that wednesday since the capitol seize began, did the
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government and military lead hear from the president. joining me now is our msnbc senior national security and intelligence analyst john brennan. great to you have back on the program. i want to read you another excerpt from the book. mark milly says parallels between trump's rhetoric of election fraud and hitler's insistence to followers at the rallies that he was a victim and their savior. this is a right stack moment, milly told aide. he was openly ready to defy the commander in chief in order to prevent a military coup. when you read that, when you see that, how close did the country come by your assessment to a point of no return? >> well, i think what is clear in the aftermath of the election that donald trump was saying publicly and privately about the
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election fraud he believed had taken place. and his increasing determination to hold on to power through any means possible. thankfully, individuals with integrity and commitment to the democratic principles of this republic like general millie decided they were not going to be used as a pawn in donald trump's chess game. and so thankfully we had individuals like mark milly and others who stood up to donald trump and unfortunately there were too many times throughout the course of the four year term where individuals just bowed over to the every whim. really, i think this sent chills down the spines of many professionals, military and others, very worried about what donald trump would redo to retain power. >> as you're away, kevin mccarthy is meeting with former president trum top discuss fund-raising and possibly even vulnerable political democrats in 2022. you are concerned that trump who is still aspousing the same
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false rhetoric about the 2020 election it's an iron grip on his own party? do you think another event like this could happen zbhen. >> first of all, i'm appalled that people like kevin mccarthy are meeting with donald trump given what donald trump has done to this country. so therefore, yes, i'm very concerned that donald trump is going to continue to try to whip up support for himself but also for this ideology that he per ports to be the leader of which is very right-wing and designed to undermine the principles of our government. therefore, i think that people like kevin mccarthy and others who continue just to bow down to donald trump really are irresponsible and are being derelict in duties to the constitution and to the people of this country. >> all right. john brennan sir, thank you for your time. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and texas lawmakers who fled their state to block a restrictive voting bill met with a key democrat on the hill
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but what they didn't get into was how best to get that done. i was told by several of the democrats in the meeting they did not talk about reforming the filibuster to allow for some kind of carveout for this kind of legislation or pressing the senator to change his position on removing all together. and therein lies the challenge. they can agree in principle on a kind of legislation that doesn't currently exist. but the timetable for the texas democrats to stop a bill that will exist in texas basically as soon as they get home is running short. and without the changes to the senate rules that those democrats told reporters they were here to advocate for, it's tough to see how this visit really moved the needle. >> we continue on the different subject. continue to get more clarity on that reconciliation bill. bring us up to speed on what is the latest. >> the data watch is going to be wednesday. leader schumer put out a warning he wants to see all democrats on
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the same page by wednesday. that doesn't mean very to agree on everything that is in it. there is still a possibility the details of this will continue to change over the weeks to come. he wants at least nun who has their objections, has the red lines to get them to him not out in public before then. and the good news for schumer and democratic leadership is at least so far progressives are loving what they've seen. here's what bernie sanders told me on that bill. >> so this is, i would say, the most consequential piece of legislation being proposed since the great depression. and fdr. it is complicated. it is difficult. i believe it's what the american people want. i hope very much that if we are successful people will say that this is the moment where we restored faith in our government that it can work for ordinary people, not just the wealthy.
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>> consequential, complicated and expensive. this is the most expensive thing that will have ever passed the senate if it can pass the senate. and that's given some butterflies, let's say, to some of the more moderate members here. so even if they get an agreement to start moving forward on wednesday, the debate over what is in this bill and what has to get pulled out of it to keep all 50 democrats in line will continue. >> all right. thank you. good to see you my friend. >> joining me now is texas state senator who met with senator joe manchin earlier today. senator, thank you so much for your time. first of all, tell us from your vantage point about the meeting. how did it go? what else can you tell us about the senators, senator manchin's approach to the concerns that you have? >> thank you. he was very generous with his time. i think we spent about an hour with him. we talked about the urgency that we're on as texas legislators. we have a window of a few weeks
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left. and we agree that something has to be done in the form of even if it's something very narrow that just addresses voting rights and what is most important to us is having something in there that gives preclearance. that is very important for states like texas. he's in agreement with that. >> he's in agreement with that. i know we've been hearing that line quite frequently about and we are looking at some pictures there of activists protesting voting rights. it is a growing concern, obviously. you can see capitol police there making what appears to be some arrests. but let's talk about the senator for a moment based on your concerns. i hear that line as our correspondent is saying, everyone within the democrats is on the same page that something has to be done. perhaps something narrow has to be done. you're talking about a time line. did you get a sense that a time line that your time line will be
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met based on that meeting with senator joe manchin? >> i'm not sure i understand there are procedural things that still have to get worked out within the senate democratic caucus here in congress. so we don't know the details of that. but we certainly press that we have weeks, a very short window of time and our special session ends on august 8. we know that governor abbott will immediately call another one. >> can you just tell us quickly, you know, in a few seconds if you don't mind specifically what narrow measures you want to see taken? >> well, we have to have preclearance. over time there is chipping away of the voting rikts act. we tun to see that with latest decisions on arizona.
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of course, the shelby case. that certainly spurred a lot of these, you know, solutions in search of a problem across our country. but we want to see something that doesn't make it harder for people to vote. and that's what the bill that passed the state senate floor on -- this week, it's -- there are still provisions in there that would hurt the disableded and the elderly when it comes to vote by mail. and also empowering poll watchers and criminalizing -- there is criminalization in the bill that is unnecessary. so again, we need things that make it easier for people to vote. >> all right. texas senator, we look forward to continuing the conversation in the weeks ahead. thank you for your time. >> new details about the suspects in the assassination of haiti's president.
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suspects and how common is this kind of training? >> yeah. thanks for having me. so we don't know a lot about the composition of the training. this is something i asked the pentagon. they've not answered me today. we do know that training, you know, u.s. military folks training colombians is pretty common. it is probably the most common training arrangement in the entire western hemisphere. it's not unusual for colombians to be involved. what is unusual here is for, you know, former colombian soldiers then be part of an alleged assassination plot. >> i know about a month ago "the new york times" reported there was paramilitary training in the u.s. under a state department contract in the killing of khashoggi. do incidents like these highlight the dangers with regimes and institution that is are potentially repressive or unstable?
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have you seen that in previous reporting of yours? >> yeah, i mean, i think it highlights the risk for sure. a lot of countries will say and the u.s. will say it's better to spend this money and provide this assistance to militaries instead of going to a country yourself and doing it. so, i mean, that's one good thing. a lot of the training embedded in it is rule of law training, how to treat civilians humanely. that's all in there. this incident in the khashoggi killing does reveal you can't just keep everything neatly colored in the lines. there are very complicated second and third order effects for when you train a bunch of people in guerrilla warfare and these types of things. whatever they do afterwards it's tough for you to contain. >> not to mention the rise in concerns about the growing rise of private contractors around the world, private security contractors as well. alex horton from "the washington
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post," alex, thup for your insight. appreciate it. >> thanks. in nearby cuba we are seeing the first major concession from the government after a weekend of historic protests. travelers will now be able to bring food and medicine into the country without having to pay any customs fees. a significant departure from the status quo. the news came in a televised address by the country's president and prime minister where they admitted for the first time that the government's handling of supply shortages played a role in those protests. this after days of authorities consistently blaming u.s. sanctions and social media for the biggest demonstrations cuba has seen in decades. joining me now from havana, cuba, ed, good to see you again. tell me a little bit more about the decision to allow people to bring suitcases filled with medicine and supplies into the country. >> reporter: yeah, as you rightly say, this is the first big concession from the cuban government after historic
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protests on sunday when thousands of people in havana and around the country exploded and reacted against the government and particularly against chronic shortages. both food and medicine up until now the amount of food and medicine, particularly medicine that cubans could bring into the country was tightly regulated in cuba as it is in many countries. you have a certain amount you can bring in for free, and after that you have to pay customs fees. the logic from the cuban government's point of view they want to stop resellers from making a profit, being able to sell medicines at way above standard rates in cuba. when there is medicine in normal times is a country where medicine is very, very subsidized and much, much cheaper. they wanted to stop people making a quick buck because of the trump sanctions and the pandemic as well the situation has become critical. that was key to the huge protests we saw a few days ago.
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with hardly any flights coming into the country because of the pandemic and rising case numbers here, it's not going to make much difference for the come months. >> it may not make much difference but just as a concession by the government to the protesters, is that likely to calm the protests and the anger in the short term or is it likely to fuel more protests given the protesters can see the government made a concession and perhaps can go further on political rights or social freedoms or what have you? >> you're asking me to look into the crystal ball and the crystal ball in an island which has gone into the unknown and a crystal ball in an island where internet connectivity is severely limited. what i can say is that people i met today in a queue are still at their wit's end. i bumped into a gentleman, a 40-year-old gentleman, who was queueing up. he left his home in the outskirts of havana at 2:00 am walked in the dead of night for
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over an hour and at 3:00 a.m. in the morning started queueing for chicken. i spoke to him almost at midday. that's ten hours later. he was number 362 in line. we interviewed him and after the interview he said, you know what, i'm going home. there's no chicken in the store and they're only going to be selling what there is to the first 300. that's to give you a sense of the level of deprideprivation. if you were at sunday's protests, he said, yes. he recognizes the u.s. sanctions and the pandemic play into the mix. he also described what he called as an internal blockade, the government's own ineptness and limitation when is it comes to distributing the very limited amount of supplies cubans can get right now. so the situation remains tense and there is a lot of desperation on the streets of havana. >> tell us really quickly, you're out and about, are the streets calmer today? are the protests subsiding?
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are there any demonstrations taking place beyond the capital of havana based on what you've been reporting and seeing? >> reporter: well, we had the huge demonstrations, the unprecedented demonstrations on sunday. since then things have calmed down a lot. one of the reasons, police have made arrests. we have, i think it's fair to say, dozens of what you could legitimately describe as political of conscience, people jailed for what they believe is political activism and many more people jailed because of what the authorities would say are common crimes, property destruction, things like that. there have been some reports of pockets of protests throughout the country in the last few days. the picture in havana is militarized calm. >> all right. ed augustin live in havana. ed, thank you. that wraps up the hour for me. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace after this quick break. lle wallace after this quk break.
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