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thank you so much for joining us. that does it for us. stephanie ruhle picks up coverage right now. hi there. i am stephanie ruhle. it is a jam packed friday, july 23rd. following several breaking stories, including start of the olympic games in tokyo. first, we have to begin here in the u.s. where the cdc is warning we are at a pivotal moment in the fight against the coronavirus and specifically the delta variant. the cdc director rochelle walensky calling it one of the most infectious viruses she's seen in her 20 year career. at the same time, a growing number of companies and organizations are announcing drastic actions about the surge in new coronavirus cases. covid outbreaks among unvaccinated players could lead to forfeited games, and those
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teams could be responsible for financial losses. in california, more l.a. restaurants and bars are requiring customers to show proof of vaccination or be turned away. in washington, president biden answering questions about bringing back mask mandates. >> we follow the science. what's happening now, all the major scientific operations in the country, 25 person group were put together, are looking at all possibilities of what's happening now. we have a pandemic among the nonvaccinated. if you are vaccinated, you are safe. >> morgan chesky in texas, and tony hilton in massachusetts, and stephanie gosk at the olympics in tokyo. also joining us, former cdc director richard besser, president and ceo of robert wood
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johnson foundation started by one of the founders of johnson & johnson. morgan, more kids are testing positive for covid across the south, that's forcing summer camps to close. how bad is it? >> reporter: certainly concerning for a couple of reasons. summer camp still going on this summer. only a few months from start of school. we are seeing impact of the delta variant play out in real time in dallas. a bit of a déjà vu feeling, at a mobile test site people can drive through that we were at a year ago during the surge in texas. i had a chance to speak to those that organized it. last week at this time, had 30 cars come in. last several days, have seen the number go north of 100, specifically about 50% of those coming through the drive through are adolescents or children. he says a lot of them are coming to be tested because they've been coming from summer camp like environments where exposures happened related to covid, specifically the delta variant, and one camp in
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particular is really good example of what we could be seeing, a church camp in central texas had hundreds of kids come back, immediately exhibit symptoms. waiting to hear what the county health director had to say following the return of the kids from camp. take a listen. >> wuchb the things we learned from the outbreak at the camp is that delta can spread extremely rapidly. we had 450 kids go to camp and literally the day they got home, we started getting calls about people being infected. >> reporter: at least 150 cases of the delta variant now tied to one particular camp. other camps in central texas had to temporarily shutdown, quarantine staff as a result of outbreaks there. as we look ahead to approach of school, we've heard the governor
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say he will not mandate masks for kids going back to the classroom, leaving it up to parents. steph? >> dr. besser, you're a pediatrician. your reaction and advice to parents? >> well, you know, i think it is really important that local schools, localities have the and the -- ability to react. you look at schools and focus on that part of the conversation, schools in communities that are seeing big outbreaks, vaccine coverage rates are low, are going to want to mandate masks, and the reason for that is that we know that masks work. outdoor activities tend to be safe, but in schools where children are under 12, there isn't opportunity for vaccination. what we're seeing in many states children 12 and over, governors are not promoting vaccination for that age group. what we do this summer in terms
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of encouraging 12 and older to get vaccinated will have big impact on what we see around the country this fall and this winter. it gives me some hope when i hear republican governors saying it is important to get vaccinated, and we see data from cdc saying the states getting hit hardest are starting to see the highest uptick of vaccination in the past week. >> let's talk about one of the governors. back in the spring, alabama republican governor kay ivy signed a bill that banned private businesses from requiring vaccination documentation, saying that was too much. now as the cases are going up in her state, she changed her tune. she's saying it is time to start blaming the unvaccinated. if more republicans join her, what effect could that have? >> it is important not to paint
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all people who have not gotten vaccinated with the same brush. hopefully this will help some people who have been concerned that the vaccination approach has been a move by the democratic party. it is not. viruses don't care what party you're part of. it is important to look beyond that. i am in new jersey with a high overall vaccination rate. princeton where i am located, 76% of adults are fully vaccinated. next town over, trenton is 45%. that has nothing to do with political party, it has to do with community that's largely black and latino. black residents who had long history of mistrust, disrespect from the health care system, a lot of latino residents who are concerned about issues of coming forward to get vaccinated. what we are finding in this state, when you bring vaccines to latino communities, up take is high. in black communities, when people hear from trusted voices, friends, family, clergy men,
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local providers that the vaccine update continues. more than 500,000 people in america are getting vaccinated every day. while that's not near the 3 million we saw at the peak, it is slow and steady progress. that gives me hope. >> what do you do when the trusted voice keeps changing his or her tune. think of conservative media. that's been mission control for so much misinformation around this. i want to share what sean hannity had to say to his massive audience this week that trusts him. >> please take covid seriously. i can't say it enough. enough people have died. we don't need any more death. it absolutely makes sense for many americans to get vaccinated. i believe in science and the science of vaccination. i never told anyone to get a vaccine. i have been very clear. i am simply not qualified. i am not a medical doctor. i know nothing about your medical history or your current
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medical condition. i think it is inappropriate for me to do so. >> doesn't this fly directly in the face of listen to your trusted leaders? sean hannity is considered a leader for a lot of people. >> i am hearing some grains of things there that give me hope, the idea of i support science, i support vaccines. talk to voices who you trust. that is a shift from what i have been hearing over a longer period of time and i encourage people who have questions, talk to your doctor, get the questions answered. don't feel you're forced to be vaccinated, but make sure you understand. what i think we're hearing there is as more people know, people effected by covid, seeing how devastating it can be, more people have friends and family vaccinated, see how their lives are changing, we're going to see movement. we have to do all we can to take the politics out, to take the heat out, so there's room for
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people to change their mind without being shamed, without stigma. i hope that as we go through the summer, as we see delta spreading, people think about fall and what it could look like if we roll up our sleeves and get vaccinated, more people will do so. >> 70% of new cases are among the fully vaccinated. what is going on. >> reporter: people are alarmed at the large number of break through cases. 256 case of individual are tied to an outbreak from july 4th celebrations in which there were large numbers of visitors, unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated residents who live in province town. this is causing immense frustration. to put numbers in context,
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massachusetts has the second highest vaccination rate in the country. this area, cape cod, has the highest vaccination rate in the state. people here feel like they were responsible, they listened to their doctors, scientists, got the shot, were put at risk when unvaccinated came to visit, not just their health but businesses they fought hard to keep in place through the pandemic. listen to the town manager, had a conversation with him. he described hits at the sentiment. >> it is frankly irresponsible, not just in province town but across the country. a sign that vaccinated, responsible individuals have to stop paying the price for people that refuse to follow science and data. province town has taken the lead on facts, data, science, and we're not going to stop doing that. >> reporter: province town put a mask advisory in place, asking people to mask indoors again. some businesses are taking it a step further, saying they're demanding guests that come stay with them are fully vaccinated.
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one business told me they cancelled reservations for people who are refusing. stephanie? >> dr. besser, if you're vaccinated and you contract coronavirus, how sick will you get? >> the good news these vaccines are some of the most effective vaccines we've ever seen. if you look across the country at who is being hospitalized and who unfortunately is dying, 97% of hospitalizations are among people that are unvaccinated, and just about all deaths among people who are unvaccinated. there are break through cases. these vaccines are designed to prevent serious illness, hospitalization, death. but risk of break through infection is low. and those that infected, the vast majority have mild infections or no symptoms whatsoever. we're going to continue to hear more about break through infections because the delta variant is so contagious.
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thankfully you get protection about what we care about most and that's severe illness. >> bottom line, vaccines work. stephanie, the olympic games are under way, despite rising cases. we know 100 u.s. athletes went there unvaccinated. why didn't they require vaccines? they're putting everyone at risk. >> reporter: i think, steph, if you see some of the 100 test positive for covid and have their olympic dreams dashed, there will be a lot of people asking the question. look at the ones that did, talking about a vaccination rate well over 80%, and the u.s. olympic committee certainly told athletes they should get vaccinated, they stopped short of compelling them to do so. the games in general don't compel athletes to do that, they're not being told they better get vaccinated to participate. certainly that increases the level of risk and is something
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that organizing officials in japan have been struggling with as they get criticism from people that live in the country about continuing to hold the games. the opening ceremony kicked off today. it was interesting, you had the dichotomy outside the stadium. about 500 or so protesting the games, saying the international olympic committee was really pushing the games down the throats of the japanese. but then you had another round of the other side of the stadium people sitting down, surrounding it, waiting to see the fireworks go off, hear the music, can't get inside because they're not allowed to, wanting to take part in this event they feel connected to and feel proud of, steph. >> feel proud of. well, good news the games are under way. we want everyone there to stay safe and healthy. thank you all so much. we have to turn to breaking news overnight in our nation's capital. two men in the hospital after shots rang out near a crowded d.c. restaurant. up to 30 shots were fired.
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d.c. police are looking for two suspects seen here, captured on bystander video, running from the scene. comes nearly a week after we saw fans in nationals park scrambling after shots were fired just outside the ballpark. in a separate shooting, a six-year-old girl shot, and merrick garland. josh, what are we learning about last night's shooting? >>. >> reporter: stephanie, on thursday night, the strip of washington, d.c. is where washington comes to party, to have drinks with friends, have a nice meal. this morning, it is a crime scene. wreckage of last night on the ground, you can see medical supplies used to treat two victims of the shooting. you can see broken glass, we have seen vehicles that still
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have gunshot holes in them. the police were nearby and authorities say they responded within five seconds and when they did, they saw two individuals hop into a car and take off down the street, police looking for two suspects as people were scrambling for cover inside restaurants on the street. one bystander telling "the washington post" they saw a woman running back and forth, dodged bullets, crying, falling to the ground in the fetal position. this comes as the city is facing a wave of gun violence. the d.c. mayor spoke at the scene last night saying she's outraged, that everybody should be outraged. but solutions to the problem are not coming quickly.
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>> it won't be one simple thing. i repeat what i said. we need to get to people before they use their guns. that's how we prevent it. if we can't prevent it, we're going to make sure we hold people accountable. >> reporter: as they try to get a handle on this, the city authorized whatever overtime pay the police need to insurgent surge resources. they also say the vast majority of the gun violence is carried out by a small number of people. that's why they say it is so important to reach out, to try to get to these people before they commit acts of gun violence or become victims of it themselves. stephanie? >> josh letterman, thank you. stay safe where you are. the deepening divide to investigate january 6th and the new audio from former president trump forcing republicans to
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fired back after republican leader kevin mccarthy for boycotting the committee. now she's weighing whether to add adam kinzinger as another member and she didn't say no. >> do you think he would be a good member of the committee? >> everybody else does. >> let's go straight to capitol hill. nancy pelosi didn't say no republicans, she said no jim jordan. what can we expect next week, are you thinking it will be kinzinger? >> reporter: there's a possibility that adam kinzinger is added. he is one of two republicans that voted to create it and the other list, she's already on the committee, you heard speaker pelosi emerge from members of the select committee, a love fest for kinzinger. everyone seems to want him. the chairman called kinzinger a
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fine representative, level headed person, type of person they would want on the committee. that said, there's no decision made. the speaker careful to say she has not decided whether to add anyone and whether it will be kinzinger. with or without a new addition, the committee will have the first hearing next tuesday where it will hear from the police officers who tried to defend this capitol from an attack by violent supporters trying to overturn the election. makeup of the committee remains uncertain, but eight democratic appointees, seven democrats, one republican appointee, speaker pelosi has a quorum and they'll do the hearing regardless. >> speaking of donald trump, this morning we are learning more about the former president's response to the insurrection and his complete distortion of the horror we all saw. >> it was a loving crowd, too, by the way. there was a lot of love. i heard that from many people.
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it was a loving crowd. capitol police were ushering people in, the capitol police were very friendly, they were hugging and kissing. >> that of course is the exact opposite of what happened when rioters violently attacked cops before they broke into the capitol. those comments part of an interview for the brand new book "i alone can fix it." donald j. trump's catastrophic final year. joining me, the authors, "the washington post" reporters, phil ruker, carol leming. i can't understand how in spite of all this, donald trump is considered a king maker for republicans, he lost the election like hillary clinton lost her election, democrats didn't bow at her altar. >> you know, steph, the main reason donald trump remains king maker for the republican party is because so many millions of his supporters remain loyal to
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him, poll after poll shows he has popular support among republican voters. even if republican members of congress think his conspiracies about election fraud or delusions about what happened january 6th are detached from reality, they suppress their own reality to suck up to him, to kiss the ring, to get close to him because they want the support of his voters. >> carol, are we in the media responsible for continuing to put him in king maker status? he sat down with you guys for hours and he had to know it wasn't going to be a flattering book about him. is his power the embodiment of all press is good press? >> absolutely. he believes all press is good press. you're absolutely right, stephanie. he invited us down there. he called both phil and me some horrific names, including fake news and low rate reporters. but he craves an audience, lives
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on an audience, wants it. he wants this alternate reality out there. as he said to us, i am getting the word out. ultimately we are reporters. we have to review and reveal what he has said and i think it is pretty important to learn that he has a completely sort of diabolical or really dubious version of reality here. we all know that january 6th was not loving. there was no hugging and kissing, there were no capitol police officers warmly ushering people in. there were officers screaming for their lives. there was an officer who had a heart attack as he begged people above him not to grab his gun, reminded them that he had children. president trump is hardening, former president trump is hardening his reality about this and trying to basically push it around the country again for his own political gain just as he did in the oval office.
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>> trump publicly pressured mike pence not to certify the election. i want to play what he told you guys about it. >> had he done that, i think it would have been a great thing for our country. i think it would have been a great thing for our country. and that's the way it is. >> why didn't he do it? >> i think he had bad advice. >> phil, there's a chance that trump and pence could run against each other in 2024. why wouldn't mike pence speak up? trump doesn't speak up or speak out against rioters because those are his voters, they're not pence's. they came there chanting they wanted to hang him. >> steph, it is incredible that pence has not been more forceful in his public comments about what happened january 6th. his own personal life was at stake, the lives of his wife, his daughter charlotte, his brother greg, they were all at
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risk. the rioters wanted the pences. there was a guillotine, not a guillotine, a nuese. he pressured him to do what was not constitutional. the reporting for the book shows that pence considered trying to follow through on the president's wishes and not certifying the election and had his legal team and constitutional scholars review whether there was any possibility for him to legally do what trump wanted, send electoral results back to state legislatures for review. the determination was that was not constitutional and it would not be legal. he did his duty, and certified election results and trump has never forgiven him for it since. we asked trump whether he would run in 2024, if he would pick pence as running mate, he said
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to be determined. he wouldn't commit to running with pence again. >> carol, while i have you, we learned trump's pac got 75 million bucks this year but haven't spent any of it into the so-called election audits, the things they have been pushing for. on the surface, that's absolutely outrageous, but his voters don't seem to care. it is their money. >> no, they don't care. hats off to my great colleagues for following the money. this is part of a pattern. this is a donald trump sort of play book. he often says i am going to do this with this money or i am going to support you, i am going to give all of this energy to the border wall, i am going to do all of this for covid victims, but it doesn't come through. this reminds me of when steve bannon started a nonprofit as you may remember, the
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president's former senior adviser and guru on national policy. he started a nonprofit with a group of folks saying they were going to take volunteers and charitable folks' money, devote to building a portion of the wall. what they did is paid themselves handsome salaries. again, the president pledging one thing, but voters don't ultimately care. when confronted with the information, time and time again they basically say but i like the guy. >> it was all a grift and they're down with it. thank you both so much. congratulations on the book. up next, the investor taking lawmakers to school on spending. sam druckenmiller is next. m dru. rated us #1 for network quality
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right now, we are watching capitol hill. infrastructure talks are under way after senate republicans blocked the vote earlier this week. stanley druckenmiller, investor, has a history of helping lawmakers make sense of markets, famously predicted the housing bubble. he has been back in washington, meeting with senator joe manchin and other members of the group behind the bipartisan infrastructure deal. while he supports some of the elements of the proposals, he is warning that injecting more
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stimulus into an already heated economy will be the fastest way to destroy it. congress plots its next steps, should they be taking his advice? joining us, the man sounding the alarm, stan druckenmiller. always good to see you. you say government spending another 3 plus trillion will cause so much inflation, it will hurt more than it helps. can you explain that? >> first, stephanie, thanks for having me on. i need to back up a little bit. if you go back to the spring of 2020, in the middle of the worst part of the pandemic, the economy was in a black hole. probably the most uncertain period i've seen in my lifetime. and congress probably did the best you could see of government, spent $2.3 trillion in response, none of us knew where we were headed, could have been the great depression, could
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have been anything. thankfully fast forward five or six months and we did not have a great depression. turns out we had the sharpest recovery in history. the government confirmed i think yesterday the recession was over and ended last summer. by early fall retail sales, 30 year trend of retail sales that's above trend, took like five or six months, in the great depression took ten years, great financial crisis, took five years. this turned out to be a very different animal. the best way i could draw it, think of a health crisis, heart attack. if you have a heart attack, if you do the consistent in this time, the stent being the
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congressional action and vaccine, you can go on with your life, no further treatment required. that's exactly what we had. we did not have what we had in terms of the depression or great financial crisis which i would say is more like cancer. that's a long term problem which requires long term spending and long term interventions. if you look at the current situation, after retail sales and economy were back to trend, afterward 575 of the 850 billion on transfer payments has been spent. over half the 5.2 trillion was spent on covid again has been after the economic crisis was already over. the irony is probably the worst economic decline the last 100 years are post asset bubbles, great depression, great financial crisis. the other great economic problem was inflation in the 1970s.
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it was pretty much awful period, particularly for the poor and middle class because inflation is a tax the poor can't afford, nor can they avoid it. i have to say the irony of, since it is well intentioned spending mentioned, i think to fix the problem frankly that does not exist any more. given what i just said, if i was darth vader, wanted to destroy the u.s. economy, i would do aggressive spending in the middle of an already hot economy, which is exactly what we have. the reason is it creates two things. i'm sorry. >> what exactly are the policies, yes? >> two things. number one, usually you get a bubble out of that. number two, you could get inflation out of that. frankly, we have both. this is the biggest bubble i've seen in my career.
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we have crypto craze, booming housing prices, things called nfts, equity prices of gdp are all-time high. and you also know inflation is literally in a 30 year high. what are we getting from this? well intentioned spending. sugar high for three to six months, continuation of inflation, economic bust. and when you get economic bust -- >> but stan, crypto currency, if that blows up, that's a problem for the rich. what this infrastructure plan is trying to do is help the poor, roads, bridges, wi-fi in rural areas. expanded child tax credit, free pre-k. this will help people that are struggling, asset bubbles and cryptocurrencies don't mean anything to them. let that blow up. >> okay. first of all, it is not just the
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rich this time. this is the first retail participation that has happened in my career. take that aside. it is not the crypto currency that will hurt the poor people, it is asset bubble bursting in he have itably leads to economic decline. that will hurt the poor. everything you mentioned sounds great and if you can pay for it without hurting the economy, i am all for it. frankly, a lot of things are going on. pre-k. i wish they could do the country, they do it with great efficiency. unfortunately that's not the case. to scale it, we need government. i am okay with a program like that. take, for example, me. i am getting social security payments. i am pretty wealthy. all right. i don't need the payments. there's a lot of other ways to
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pay for this and cut that out. do we think my social security payments are priority? because if we don't think they're priority, let's cut down, there are a lot of other examples, then if you want to add stuff. further spending in aggregate in my opinion is going to cause a financial crisis that's going to cause inflation and nothing is going to hurt the poor more than that. and by the way, if it does, every dollar we are spending now in my opinion we don't desperately need is not going to be available in the future crisis, whether it is another pandemic or economic decline that's hurting the poor and the middle class. >> well, absolutely nobody wants that but conventional wisdom is often more money is good for those that need it most. you're saying that's not the case. how did joe manchin and the other senators react when you made this case? >> i think they were very
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thoughtful. i don't know how much i moved the needle or didn't move the needle. we had a very nice frank discussion. frankly they asked great questions and seemed very interested in my points. i think frankly my track record probably made an impression on them too. >> so the take away, you are all for a hard infrastructure deal, what is the prescription you're saying we need to do? >> well, i don't think we need to do anything. i think we need to take a step back, take a deep breath, see where we are. we have a very hot economy, hot inflation, and any spending is a problem. i realize that's not realistic. yes, i love a lot of stuff in the infrastructure plan, particularly the investments in the digital infrastructure because we have a big digital divide, rural areas, poor kids
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have the same access as upper class kids. there's a lot of stuff in there i am okay with. but again, there's a lot of other spending going on, particularly in entitlements, that to me are less of a priority and we just can't let the net spending go up any more than it is currently because it is going to lead to, hopefully i am wrong, i don't have a crystal ball, to dire consequences. >> more money doesn't necessarily mean -- sam druckenmiller, thank you. the move from one state putting the future of roe vs wade in the balance. f roe vs wade in the balance. snacks that taste great, and come straight from the earth. and last time i checked, pretzels don't grow on trees. just saying. planters. a nut above. ♪ ♪ ♪ just saying. aloha! isn't this a cozy little room?
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let's get to justice correspondent pete williams. what happens now? >> what happens now, center for reproductive rights, people supporting the law in mississippi, supporting the abortion in mississippi opposing the law will respond, the court will hear the case in the fall in november or december. what's surprising is when mississippi originally asked the supreme court to take this case, they said you don't have to overturn roe v wade. this is a law that would ban abortion after 15 weeks. roe in casey versus planned parenthood of pennsylvania said that you can't ban abortion completely before viability, which is basically 23 or 24 weeks. always implicit in the case is if the supreme court prior holdings say you can't ban abortion before viability, here comes a state wants to ban abortion before viability, how can those two things exist
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without overturning precedent. it has always been a lurking in the background question. what's bold is that mississippi said you need to overturn two cases. there's no support in the constitution for the original decision in roe v wade. a stark reminder of what will be argued in the fall. will the supreme court overturn roe? wouldn't seem to be in keeping with the recent style, which is to do everything incrementally. this would be a huge step. but of course, the challenge for mississippi is how do you allow a state to ban before viability if those decisions on the books say you can't do it. how do you fit that square peg into the round hole has always been the real problem for the state. so this is a bold move by mississippi, acknowledging basically what was always lurking in this case. >> always lurking and now it is here. pete williams, thank you.
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game broadcast by an all-female crew. they covered tuesday's game between the baltimore orioles and the tampa bay rays. major league baseball released this video overnight praising the crew for breaking barriers. the sportscasters say they're just doing their jobs. joining he is alanary zoe, seven-time emmy award winner. now that you've had a few days to process, how important a moment was this? >> good morning, stephanie. the further we get away from the actual broadcast the more it's starting to sink in that this actually happened and the irony of it all is that none of us knew it was an all-female cast for four or five days before the game. i was asked for a quote and
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wondered why. it's the first time it's been an all-female broadcast crew. i said that's interesting and realized who was all on the crew and you know, we've been doing this a long time the five of us collectively have, doing this for decades in a sense it is just our job but the more we think about it, we realize the magnitude of the moment. it's important to recognize the moment but as susan waldman of the new york yankees has been doing yankees play-by-play for decades, if it's one and done, what's the point? hopefully we get to the point where it's not a big deal, just a bunch of women doing their jobs. >> to that very point, what's the plan next? do you have any idea when this will become normal? it's a tremendous first step, it's a photo-op. you don't want it to be one and done. >> no question about it. hopefully they'll continue to see the value. major league baseball loved the fact that we were able to be on that huge platform and be so much more accessible to so many more people, they can go on
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youtube and watch the game. i do think that this will be something that becomes more commonplace. i haven't heard anything personally when the next one is going to be but i know melanie newman, who did our play-by-play, did a fantastic job, has done games for youtube and mlb network. we were the five fortunate and lucky enough to be chosen to do this but i can absolutely tell you there are so many women in this industry doing this so well for a long time that could have easily done what we did lathank night and so many people that paved the way for us as well and hopefully there was some little girl and some little boy sitting on their couch watching this broadcast and said hey, i can do this, too. >> what is your message to them? girls and boys you point out, who should see this as the norm al. >> there's space and a place for all of us.
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women building up women is so important but i think there's added value when your male counterparts and your male colleagues recognize the value and the importance of something like this also. those that know how difficult it is to get in this industry, moreover stay in this industry and are also applauding the women doing it is probably making more strides when before the game in tampa bay when i had major league baseball players say it's the fers all-female broadcast, congratulations. people on the coaching staff of the orioles and the rays are aware of the impact as well. so it's important for women to support women. i think it goes a little bit further when the men support us as well. >> amen to that. celebrating this win together, breaking barriers together, because together we all rise. congratulations, again. thank you so much for joining us this morning. that wraps up this busy hour. i'm stephanie ruehl. hallie jackson picks up breaking news coverage on the other side of the break.
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