history is repeating itself with and on absolute of voter suppression laws proposed by republicans. a new analysis reveals 18 states have enacted at least 30 new voter restrictions. but let's take a closer look at what the new laws actually do. you've got laws that shorten the window for apply for a mail-in ballot, that impose harsher voter i.d. requirements, some that reduce the number of polling place locations in and the hours that they operate. and there are a few that ban out giving snacks and water to voters who are waiting this line often for hours in the heat. these republican-led states aren't outright saying that they want to make voting more picture for people of color and those on the fringes of society, instead it is a touch more subtle. they cite so-called election security as the problem that needs solving even though state after state has determined that

there was no widespread or organized or partisan fraud in the 2020 election. there wasn't even small scale fraud. many americans see through this employ and some are fighting back against it. this week former texas congressman beto o'rourke and dr. barber with the poor peoples campaign will embark on a three day march to protest the restrictive voting bills that republicans there are trying to enact. meanwhile, democratic state lawmakers from texas are coming up on their third week in washington, d.c. as long as they are able, the legislature can't reach a quorum which prvents republicans from passing the restrictives i thei. president biden has spoken out against the tactics calling it a 21st century jim crow assault but the question remains, what will he do about it? testimon democrats want reform of the filibuster rule so that they can

implement federal protections through the john lewis act and for the people act. here is what jim clyburn told me last hour about the president's continued reluctance. >> i know the president is with the tradition of the senate. and i don't want him jeopardizing his position with the senators. i understand the president. i respect those relationships. but i do believe that he and my friends in the senate out toying to take a hard look at this. >> republicans are using every tool at their disposal to chip away at voting rights. it will take a lot to stop them. and joining me now is democratic senator bob casey of pennsylvania, member of senate intelligence and finance committee. thank you for being with us this morning. you heard what jim clyburn said. he has floated an idea that some people like, that we can table the discussion about getting rid of the filibuster for those people who think that it is important to the parliamentary

process and to democracy and to bipartisanship. but for things like voting rights, things that are written into the constitution of the united states, perhaps we should carve these things out. your thoughts on jim clyburn's suggestion. >> thanks and great to be with you. i think that it is a sound approach that jim clyburn laid out, that there are certain issues like voting rights that rise to a level of severity and consequence that we should pay special attention to them and act with a sense of urgency when it comes to knocking away any obstacle in our way including a rule of the senate. so i'm in favor of removing the 60 vote filibuster, but there are other ways where you could make an exception for something as consequential as voting rights. >> let's talk about how it gets done. because there are people who are

looking to joe biden to sort of put us back into it and suggest how it gets done. there are others looking at schumer to do this, yet others to look at manchin and sinema to say that they back this. how does it happen, what is to happen next if one needs to treat this voting rights assault with urgency? >> well, i think in the next couple of weeks really as we deal with these major infrastructure issues, we're also going to be allocating a lot of time to make sure that in august and september and going forward if necessary, we'll allocate time to this issue. voting rights and i believe a change in the rules. because we haven't had that debate yet. that hasn't happened yet. but when we have it, i think that there are other options than just the 60 vote rule or no 60 vote rule. what could happen is that you could allow people in the minority side to have their say

for a number of days, everybody even a number of weeks and then stop it and have a vote. that is possible as well. but when you have the kind of voter suppression that we've seen across the country which is about white supremacy, we have a group of americans, organized republicans and right wingers who don't like the result of 2020 because it was brought about mostly because black voters in america made it possible for joe biden and kamala harris to win and for us to get a senate majority. they don't like that, so they are trying to suppress the votes of black americans. >> let's talk about a couple other things that are also not moving at the speed people would like in the u.s. senate. a poll 6 of americans support for the infrastructure plan. 59% of americans approval whole thing. 50% of republicans approve. and then we want to tighten it up to whats talk about a lot,

hard infrastructure roads, fridges and ports. that has yet higher approval, 83% of all americans, 79% of republicans. soit strikes me that at least part of this big bill should be on no brainer. and there is some discussion yet to be had about what some people call softer infrastructure or modernized infrastructure that involves people as opposed to things. >> yeah, i think that we can get to the first part this week. i'm hoping that the negotiators can reach a resolution so that we can have a physical infrastructure done this week or next week. but then we have to get to care giving. helping people get back to work. for a lot of americans, mostly women trying to get back to work who may not need simply a physical bridge to get to one place or another, they may need a care giving bridge.

child care, help with mom or dad. all kinds of support that folks need for sour society to function. so whether child care, care for seniors and people with disabilities, pre-kindergarten education, investments this workers and families, really investments in the future. >> and it is becoming a lightning rod though. there are republicans who say we are not conditioning our vote on hard infrastructure on the fact that there is this other bill which their thinking as a democratic christmas tree with everything that democrats all want, and there are progressives who are saying stop compromising on that larger bill, the human infrastructure side of things, to get conservative votes. so it is getting mired into a political discussion. how do we move forward on the discussion of infrastructure? 50 years ago we thought it was just roads and bridges and then we discovered that it is

broadband and things like that and president biden and you say that we should think of it more broadly. how do we have that discussion within the partisanship that occurs in the senate? >> it is certainly difficult, but we're at a point where we're moving. we're not waiting for some negotiation to be done. the budget process and getting budget resolution in early august is already under way. so we'll have that vote regardless of what republicans want or not. that is happening. it would be easier to do the second part with just democrats if the first part is completed. but if that means that we have to do all of it together as democrats, we'll do it. we won't allow republicans to stop us, we're not going to allow the calendar or anything else to stop us. we're going to invest in care giving like it has never been invested in before. and i'm very confident that this is going to happen. >> senator, good to see you as always. thanks for joining us.

next david cicilline will be joining us. good morning. thank you for being with us. we're bouncing back and forth between a number of issues. as urgent as a crumbling bridge, but so too about the voting rights. you defeated about hank johnson's arrest at a vote being rights protest on capitol hill reminiscent of the civil rights movement and john lewis' work. given your estimation of how this new civil rights voting rights movement is moving, and how we inject this level of urgency into the discussion. >> well, you are right, we are at a very critical moment in our democracy. there are efforts under way in 47 state legislatures to make it more difficult for people to

vote. it is the most sacred responsibility that we have to express our views during times of voting. and the only remedy to that is to enact hr-1, s-1, and things standing in the way of that is the fill with filibuster. the irony that it will be used to crush the most pro democracy piece of legislation is cruel irony. but whatever way they do it, the senate has to move forward to protect voting rights across this country. and i think that you can easily carve out an area of democracy voting rights and several rights particularly when you look at the history of the filibuster and how it has been used to prevent progress on civil rights. this is a perfect karma. i think that we should get rid of it completely, but those reluctant, for sure we should be more interested in protecting

our democracy than protecting the jim crow relic. >> and you tweeted about the fact that kevin mccarthy had named a few people he wanted put on the january 6 investigation committee, speaker pelosi said no, you got a few people who voted against the certificate indication of the election who will make trouble. you tweeted had you are glad that they don't have big lie spreaders on the committee. but talk about how it goes forward. it is supposed to start this coming week. does it proceed with no republicans on it except for liz cheney or do we think that kevin mccarthy puts forward another batch of names? >> we don't know what mccarthy will do but we no that the speaker has appointed a bipartisan committee that will have a quorum to begin this week. this is an ongoing effort to ensure that we get all the facts surrounding this attack on our democracy that left five people dead including one capitol

police officer. the most serious attack on our democracy ans the since the war of 1812. we tried do it in an international commission and republicans refused. and mccarthy has turned it into a circus of people that promoted the big lie. you look at jim banks statement disqualifying what he said. and look, we are determined to get all of the facts surrounding january 6 what led up to it, pay for it, organize it, to make sure that this never happens again in this country. and this was a day where the peaceful transfer of power occurred, this was an effort by insurrectionists to overthrow the government of the united states, to stop that peaceful transition of power. we have to take it seriously. this is an effort that was conducted by some of the worst domestic terrorist groups in this country and we can't just let it go. we have a responsibility to make sure that we do everything

necessary to hold everyone accountable who was involved in this and to make sure it never happens again in america. >> and i want to ask you about the infrastructure bill. we may see something this week. and it may come back to congress. nancy pelosi has said if they are not satisfied, you know, if you are not satisfied with what happens in the senate, you may have to re-evaluate things in congress. and you've got different sides in the democratic party about how big this should be, how big the compromises with republicans should be to get is this passed. where do you stand on hard infrastructure versus this much, much larger bill that includes human infrastructure if you will? >> i think democrats are very much united in making sure that we do two things. one is pass an infrastructure bill that addresses our road, bridges, our port, schools, transit systems. but also pass the american jobs plan that is also about making sure people get back into the workforce. you know, early childhood

education, affordable child care, community colleges, all the things, you know, community base case. all the things that are often impediments to getting back into the workforce. it is about supporting working families. and democrats are united. we want to be as bold and big as we can to respond to the crisis we face, want to rebuild the infrastructure of our country so we can compete with other countries around the world. we once had the best infrastructure in the world is . this is aboutvesting in working families and we'll get it done with or without our republican colleagues. >> thank you for joining us. and when we come back, we'll keep the voting rights discussion alive. i'm going to ask alex padilla about ending the filibuster and how it might be the ticket to getting important stuff done in the senate. and my body my choice when it comes to wearing a mask or not getting a covid-19 vaccine, but not so much when it comes to a

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>> ironic. not when it comes to women's reproductive rights. they have been trying to kroefr turn roe vs. wade to no a roe v. wade, but now the most difficult test yet. last week mississippi's attorney general formally called on the supreme court to al abolish the right to abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. the new law provides no exemptions in case of rape or incest yet the attorney general had the us as today audacity to claim that it promotes sanctity of life. mississippi is dead last in promoting health of women. and that is probably because there is only one remaining abortion clinic in the state known as the pink house. this has been the main target of

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we're talking infrastructure this morning and expected to get an update tomorrow. negotiators say that there could be a deal so long as nobody burns any bridges. a bipartisan group of senators is still trying to reach an agreement on the roughly $600 billion we're calling it traditional infrastructure proposal which includes things in investments in roads, bridges and rail. sticking point has been the percentage of dollars allocated to public transit. and then there is the issue of how to pay for it without raising income taxes or user fees and things like the federal gas tax. talks have focus the on undoing a trump era rule on pharmaceutical rebates or redirecting billions of unspent

dollars from last year's covid relief. joining me now is alex padilla. good to see you again. i want to point out to my viewers, you are an engineer. you actually studied engineering. so you don't need to be convinced of the value of the infrastructure. in fact nobody does. there is nobody who doesn't think that we need to put money toward these things. so a bit of a hypocritical argument that we can't have anybody pay more taxes because of it because the republicans are making that argument themselves supported tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations in the last four years. >> exactly. good to be back with you. and part of the conversation here in how we pay for these infrastructure investments includes at least partially getting rid of the trump tax giveaways. a lot of best leaders that i've talked to confess behind closed doors that they never asked for

it. they took it and ran but never asked for the tax relief wind fall under the trump administration. so partially rolling that back is more in order and what could be wiser than to invest in our nation's infrastructure. and i'm baffled had question don't have a quote/unquote deal yet when more than four weeks ago a bipartisan group of senators stood in front of the white house with president biden and there was a deal. so what has happened in the last week? there was a deal, now not a deal. only thing that i can think of is that it is unpopular for them of improved irs enforcement ensuring that the most wealthy families in america and large rpgs cou corporations pay their fair share. that is a big piece. >> and important that you point that out. the republican objection here is

to enforcement of irs provisions. the idea that, hey, if you do owe taxes or we should be able to get that money out of you. we're very, very keen on enforcing the fact that people at the low end of the income scale don't get any free money or free anything or don't get paid as republicans say sit on their couches but not enforcing tax collection against the highest earners in this country. let's talk about voting rights. this is very important to you. you have actually come at this from different perspectives. you chair a subcommittee on immigration and border safety, so you have been looking at voters' rights on a lot of different levels. they intersect here. this is all part of one package in your mind. >> absolutely. and as you mentioned, i was formerly california secretary of state where i'm proud that we showed a positive counter example to the voter suppression movement across america.

most inclusive democracy in the most populist state in the nation, and the act calls for government to play a role to facilitate participation, multiple ways to register to vote, stay registered to vote and actually cast your ballot and i'm hoping to use my platform as a senator to bring about the equal access to the ballot and bring voting rights to all voters in america. most recently as you know, we took the show on the road, rules committee had a hearing in georgia in atlanta last monday morning. and keeping up our pressure on why we need to pass both the for the people act and john lewis voting rights act as soon as possible. >> and what do you think needs to happen now? the hearings on the road were effective. but in the end, there are a lot of people who probably agree with you and probably look at the example in california or colorado or other states where they make it easier for people who are registered to vote without encountering voter fraud.

how do you get people to understand that this is as urgent as people thought police reform was a year ago? there is some sense that if it doesn't affect me, it is not a serious problem. >> so we need to keep the volume up, keep the public pressure on not just for influencing public opinion, but orchestrating the rights so that the general public opinion to influence policymakers. and especially members of the united states senate. when republicans don't come along to establish an independent bipartisan commission to investigate the root cause of the deadly insurrection of january 6, we know that this ain't going to be easy. they wouldn't even support beginning debate and discussion on "for the people act." but i do think that progress has to be made. it is inevitable if we keep the pressure on. maybe we line up more votes or maybe we finally break the back of the filibuster. >> and you are in favor of breaking the back of the filibuster.

>> absolutely. whether eliminating it, that the ideal even if it is just convincing enough colleagues to create an exemption or somehow allow us to protect our fundamental right to vote. when you stop and think about it, it is our right to vote that preserves all of the other rights. once the vote -- our right to vote goes, we'll go backwards on climate, backwards on labor protection, backwards on choice, equality, and so much more. so the fight for voting rights is the fight for our fundamental way to democracy. >> thank you for joining us. it is always early and much earlier for you in california. alex padilla, of california. the propaganda sham audit in arizona continues. and spoiler alert, still no fraud found. but there appears to be in-fighting, a situation that is as hilarious as it is sad. what on earth is going on in z a assist? after the break. n earth is goinz assist after the break. eel the same. experience, thrilling performance from our entire line of vehicles

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this ridiculous ballot audit in arizona continues. it has taken another questionable turn after tensions boiled over between state representative bennett and the cyber ninjas. i wish this was science fiction. but ken bennett is the point person between the state senate and the people conducting the

audit. only person with actual experience working in elections. the cyber ninjas are the private company hired to recount the 2020 ballots. ninjas have serious experience before stepping into this gig. friday bennett was banned from the site where the audit is still taking place after three months. he was locked off for allegedly sharing data for an outside group of cyber ninja critics who wanted to check to see if the work was legitimate. republican senate says bennett is still the liaison and on top of that, the building where the ballots are still being reviewed is leaking because of heavy rain in the area. but don't worry, the and you had the team says that the ballots are, quote, fine.hadthe team sa ballots are, quote, fine. and in less than 48 hours, the january 6 select committee in the house of representatives will begin hearings into the

attack on the capitol. and joining me is my colleague jonathan capehart. not only are republicans threatening to boycott but threatening to form their own separate committee as well. >> yeah, it is insane, ali. yes, after nancy pelosi refused to accept two of kevin mccarthy's two of his questionable picks, he decided to pull the whole slate down and said that republicans will do their own committee with or without the cooperation, the hearing goes on. it gets started on tuesday and i'll be talking to the chair congressman bennie thompson about what we can expect. and also with growing concerns over the covid delta variant, i'll talk to dr. anthony fauci about whether we should expect new mask mandates or whether we'll need additional vaccine booster shots. as always, a really packed sunday show coming up. >> and so are you sporting a new look? i like it, whatever it is. looks good. >> thanks very much.

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you know when you win and when you lose. if i lost this election, i could handle it pretty easily. when they steal it from you and rig it, that is not easy and we have to fight. >> stupidity abounds. the former president is still clinging to the big lie telling as recently as last night in phoenix that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen from him.

this is the rhetoric that ignited voter suppression. at least 30 laws have been enacted to make it more difficult for some people to vote under the guise of voter fraud. even though 18 states created laws to make everyone's constitutional right to vote hard erd for certain groups, xi restates have been able to provide evidence of voter fraud. brennan center is predicting even more vote are suppression laws to come out of states still in the legislative session. a serious issue on our hands is that unraveling before our eyes. our democracy is slipping away from us because the very values it stanl stands on are overruled by republicans.

and so eddie, you tweeted something july 21 that is alls of, i've been thinking about the various assaults on american democracy and i keep back on seriousness. stupidity abounds. covering us all in its stench. stupid but it is affecting democracy. >> absolutely. i mean, when we think about this with regards to voting and the so-called stop the steal and we think about what is going on with coronavirus and the folks refusing to get vaccinated, what we see is that there is a sense in which the american public is kind of wallowing in disinformation, equal wallowing in their own prejudices. so folks don't want to pause and think seriously when b. what

faces us. and so it seems that we need to call stupid stupid when we see it. and then begin to put forward a kind of pathway of how we get beyond this message. >> so you research and write things and some of the stuff that you both write is so meaningful and important, stuff is that doesn't necessarily cross everybody's desk which is why i recommend people read it, but erin, this is distressing if what eddie says is true. if we're dealing with anti-vaxxers or stop the steal or nonexistent voter fraud, how do you advance the actual important messages that you need to advance at the 19th telling real stories about real people and how real policies affect them? >> ali, you are right. we have to keep telling the truth in the face of the big lie. listen, the big line didn't work for former president trump in terms of getting him elected to a second term but it is working in the state legislatures that

are continuing to pass these voter suppress laws. we're up to 18. but in the last election, almost 80 million americans did not vote and you referenced that pew research center poll that showed had nearly half of white americans think that voting is a privilege instead of a right. and so this is something that does not impact people directly, voter suppress, so they may not care about it. and so you see president biden and vice president harris using their bully pulpit to talk to people about the importance of elections about the importance of passing federal legislation that protects the rights of voters at the ballot box because there are many americans who frankly, it is not that they don't care, just that they don't live and breathe this stuff in the way that journalists do every single day. you know, and so if somebody is in survival mode, they may not be necessarily thinking or even be aware of the threats to vote

rights of america. and so it is important for all of us to continue to tell the truth about democracy and the threat to democracy that is currently under way in this country. >> so how do you translate that, eddie? i think errin put that well. people are in survival mode or people who don't have some attachment to the idea that voting is actually not just a right, but a right that people died for, went to jail for, still getting arrested for. and yet it is important what is going on in arizona, georgia, texas and pennsylvania to all of us everyone if none of us have suffered any kind of suppression of our vote. how do you convey that urgency that this is all of our fight not just some of their fight? >> i think that we have to organize across these var yus silos. we think of voting rights as the arena of civil rights organizations. we need to make it clear that

these laws will impact poor voter, low well the voters, young voters, it will impact our democracy broadly. so in some ways we have to make the argument that heather mcgee makes in her book that the effort to limit and constrict voting rights for a particular population will have an impact on all of us. and so that will have to involve progressive organizations getting out there and doing this work. and not just simply outsourcing to civil rights organizations. we have a history in this country of having these parallel movements. free soilers arguing for free speech, free labor. and then not having anything to say about an bow lish. abolition. we have those arguing for free labor rights. wall street not really involved in "black lives matter" at if these things are parallel. so we need to have progressives out there in the street, those fighting climate out there in the streets organizing around this issue of voting. we need bernie sanders, we need elizabeth warren, progressive

voices taking the lead making the argument so that everyone can see this is not just about black folk, this is about us. >> and errin, i mean, i'm interested in your take on that because i've heard this now a few times in the last few weeks. that there is a lot of energy out there about fighting a lot of defendant types of injustice, but it is coming together now a is going to have to be unified voices getting out there and in some cases putting bodies on the line. we're seeing more people getting out there, we're seeing legislators get arrested, texas legislators facing the fact they may be arrested on their way back. civil disobedience may be a road down this road. >> it could very well be. but not only that, ali, just as last summer we saw with the national reckoning you saw a multiracial, multigenerational, multigender coalition out in the streets to protest against the unrelenting killing of african-americans in the face of a pandemic, you know, the pandemic of voter suppression that is on the march should

force people to act and people of all creeds and colors regardless of whether or not they had to stand in a long line, regardless or not whether their ballot was brought under question. voter participation in this country is still among the lowest among western countries in this world and we know that, you know, while almost 80% of african-americans view voting rights as voting as a right, you have still in the 60% range asian-americans, hispanic americans, who believe that. and as i said, only -- just over half of white americans who believe that voting is a right. so increasing, having other folks get their skin in the game is what is going to move the needle on this in terms of public opinion, and then hopefully at the state and federal level in terms of legislation on this issue. >> i think it is right. this shouldn't be civil rights organizations, this should be an all of government and society effort to say we all got this right. this remarkable right upon which our democracy is based, let's

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about an assault on seriousness. we talked about nicole hannah jones and having a fuller look at american history, then an attack on critical race theory. in texas, the senate passed a bill that would remove a requirement for public schoolteachers to teach that the ku klux klan is morally wrong. we're going down some weird roads in this country. and, you know, part of me doesn't want to take something like that seriously because we have books and we have the internet, except we have books and we have the internet and vaccine deniers and people denying women their rights, so i don't know. what do you do with this stuff? >> well, you have to take texas very seriously, ali, because of the size of the state and the impact on school textbook purchasing. it has an impact on content in school books and mcmillan press and the lot. this is really key. there are folks screaming, you will not replace us. folks are worried about tucker carlson and others worried about demographic shifts and panicking and also worried about being

displaced in history. made to be monsters. this is the stuff, the logic of fascism. we need to understand it. i want to be clear here, ali, the problem isn't just simply loud racists, those folks are easily identifiable. the problem rests with those of us willing to be silent in the face of all of this. this is just simply another front being open where folks are trying in some ways to reassert the lie, the lie about this country, the lie it must remain a white nation in order to maintain their hold on power. that's all it is, ali. >> erin, you write about things often either historical or contemporary that maybe everybody doesn't know through particular lenses. but this senate bill is actually a reversal of a bill that said that they should be teaching about civic accomplishments of marginalized populations including women suffrage, equal rights, importance of the civil rights movement, the teaching of martin luther king's i have a

dream speech. i would have figured that erin haynes exists because we covered that stuff. erin haynes is the master class in interesting things we need to know about our history that have not been taught in our schools. we are actually seeing as eddie says setbacks in places where you may end up with readers who don't know some of the basics. >> yeah. and, listen, unfortunately, ali, you know, i had an inbox of somebody who covered race in america for many years, filled with messages from folks who do not want this fuller more inclusive history told and, you know, and which, you know, errin haines is the racist. why am i bringing up the past? why can't i move on? and the things we like to celebrate our country, the founding ideals, fathers, the framers, we can't talk about those things enough. and, you know, this is really what all of this is about. the lost cause is absolutely back after the civil war. you had, you know, some --

agrieved southerners who were trying to rewrite history in real time. and i think, you know, now we see the country's demographics changing, you have folks who don't want to confront the not only the ugly parts of our history, but the living legacy of that history, which is certainly something that we are trying to do through the product that i'm leading at the philadelphia enquirer, a more perfect union, interrogating our institutions and the inequality that was born with those institutions that remains with us today and is very present, not only here in philadelphia, where i live, but in institutions across the country. we know that texas is not even comfortable with the history of its own state. much less, you know, perpetuating inequality in terms of the telling of the history across this country with the textbook companies that are based there. so this comes as no surprise, but it is unfortunate. >> thank you to both of you, for joining me, errin haines, editor at large of the 19th.

and eddie glaude, chair of the department of african-american studies at princeton university and author of "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own." that does it for me. thank you for watching "velshi." catch me next saturday and sunday morning from 8:00 to 10:00 eastern. "the sunday show with jonathan capehart" begins right now. the country braces for new details in the capitol insurrection as the house select committee prepares to hold its first hearings. the committee -- the chairman of that committee, congressman benny thompson, joins me live to discuss. covid cases are surging. should americans start wearing masks indoors again? will they need a booster shot? i'll ask dr. anthony fauci. and donald trump visits ground zero in the gop's war on voting. >> the big lie, they call it. you know what's the big lie? the opposite is the big lie. the election was the