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good afternoon, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin in new york. we are monitoring multiple developing stories at this hour. right now, president biden visiting the office for the director of the national intelligence. it oversees the united states' intelligence organization. we're also following reaction to the powerful testimony from the first republican -- from the first public hearing, excuse me, of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. the committee's first witnesses included four officers who
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served on the front lines on that day. gonel described what he and his fellow officers encountered. >> what we subjected that day is from a medieval battle. we fought hand to hand, inch by inch to prevent a overtaking of the capitol. >> and we're also following breaking news out of the biden administration. any minute now the cdc expected to announce must masking guidance for those fully vaccinated in areas with high covid-19 transmission rates. we're going to have a lot on that. we start with the pandemic and that breaking news. new mask guidance from the biden administration. now the delta variant is fueling the price in the nationwide. but some vaccinated americans
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are being advised to wear masks indoors in areas of the country with high covid transmission rates. according to multiple sources, a key point on what is driving this decision, "new data suggesting fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting covid-19 but could also be carrying higher levels of the virus than previously understood and potentially able to infect others." as i mention, any moment now we hope to learn more from the cdc and the director. we'll take you there live as soon as that briefing gets underway. but all of this comes at what one "washington post" headline calls a tipping point. more and more government officials, health groups and places like california, new york city, are moving to require vaccines for workers. and it's the politics of this vaccine that is costing lives as cases continue to climb. arizona says that 98% of their virus deaths since march have
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been people who are not fully vaccinated. we have more on this new mask guidance for us. lindsey riser is in phoenix, arizona, at valley wuz health medical center where workers are seeing mounting covid-19 cases there. and also with us, dr. megan rainy, emergency physician and assistant dean of public health at brown university. we're going to hear from the cdc director as i mentioned any second now. i apologize in advance if i have to interrupt you to go to that. i do want to start with you. talk to us about the science behind this reversal. are you surprised that now we're going to see fully vaccinated adults in high covid-19 transmission areas required to wear masks indoors? >> you know, this guidance is completely in line with what i and other public health officials have been seeing for a couple of weeks now. which is the delta variant is different. we're having increasing evidence that breakthrough infections are more common with delta variant and that when they happen, the
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people who experience breakthroughs are getting sicker and are more likely to transmit it on to others. the other part of the is parts of the united states are only 20 or 30% of americans have been vaccinated. in those areas, where delta virus is surging, we need to increase masking to keep everyone in the community safe. we learned that's virtually impossible if we tell just the unvaccinated to mask. >> all right, doctor, i apologize for interrupting you. let's cross over to the cdc briefing and listen in no dr. walensky. >> that requires us to update the guidance regarding what can you do when you're fully vaccinated. the delta variant is showing every day itsingness to outsmart us and to be an open tunist in areas we have not shown a fortified response against it.
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this week our data shows that delta remains the predominant variant circulating in the united states. eight in ten contain the delta variant. in recent days, i have seen new scientific data from recent outbreak investigations showing that the delta variant behaves uniquely differently from past strains of the virus that cause covid-19. information on the delta variant from several states and other countries indicates that in rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others. this new science is worrysome and warrants an update to our recommendation. first, we continue to strongly encourage everyone to get vaccinated. getting vaccinated continues
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reduce spread of virus in our community. vaccinated individuals continue to represent a very small amount of transmission occurring around the country. continue to estimate that breakthrough of infection with symptoms upon exposure is reduced by seven fold. reduction is 20 fold for optizations and deaths. and cdc recommended four months unvaccinated individuals should get vaccinated and continue masking until they are fully vaccinated. in areas with substantial and high transmission, cdc recommends fully vaccinated people wear masks in public, indoor settings to help prevent the spread of the delta variant and protect others.
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this includes schools. cdc recommend that's everyone in k-12 schools wear a mask indoord including teachers, staff, students, and visitors regardless of vaccination status. children should return to full time in person learning in the fall with proper prevention strategies in place. finally, cdc recommends community leaders encourage vaccination and universal masking to prevent further outbreaks in areas of substantial and high transmission. with the delta variant, vaccinating more americans now is more urgent than ever. the highest spread of cases and severe outcomes is happening in places with low vaccination rates and among unvaccinated people. this moment and most importantly, the associated illness suffering and deaths could have been avoided with
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higher vaccination coverage in this country. covid continues to prevent -- present many challenges and has exacted a tremendous toll on our nation. we continue to follow the science closely and update the guidance should the science shift again. we must take every step we can to stop the delta variant and end this pandemic. and now i'm happy to take your questions. thank you. >> thank you, dr. walensky. we're ready for the first question, please. >> all right. we're waiting for dr. walensky to take questions from the reporters. you heard her give her opening statements making that announcement, talking about the updaded guidance from the cdc
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which now says in areas of high and substantial covid-19 transmission, fully vaccinated adults should wear masks indoors. she went on to add that all students k-12 in schools regardless of vaccination status, that includes teachers and workers at these schools, also wear masks and should require in person learning come the fall. let's cross back into that briefing now and listen into the questions. >> if you have questions following the briefing, feel free to call our main media line. can you also e-mail those questions to media@cdc.gov. we'll continue to stand by for our first question. >> dr. rainy, you outlund a
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little bit of what she was going to say based on your own medical expertise. i would like to ask you specifically about what qualifies as high and substantial transmission? that is the point she is saying as a result of what she is seeing with the delta variant which is making up the majority of cases in unvaccinated areas as a result of that, we're seeing high and substantial transmission rates and that is leading them to make the decision that in those areas all adults fully vaccinated should wear masks indoors. what do you think -- what is that high and substantial threshold do you think? >> it's a great question. i have not obviously -- none of us have read the new cdc guidelines. there is a couple things. one is the positivity rate. the positivity rates are getting 5%, 10%, that is the first thing. the second thing is an increasing rate of infections week on week. we've seen communities across the u.s. in the scene upwards of 200% increases in infection
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rates. the third thing is going to be looking for the rate of hospitalizations. looking at that map that you're showing, you can see there are many red and orange states. those are absolutely places where i would put this back in place. there really aren't a lot of communities across the united states that are not seeing increasing infection rates. the last part is the cdc previously recommended tlesh holds of somewhere around 50 per 100,000 as that marker of high rates of infection. but it's going to be equally looking again at the positivity rate and the growth of infections from week to week right now. >> cases are spiking in arizona and other parts of the country. how what is happening there on the ground an indication of the larger issue that is playing out across the country as we're hearing both from dr. walensky and to dr. rainy's point this say pandemic of the unvaccinated. >> yeah.
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i mean one of the telltale signs is i'm back in my hometown talking about a rising number of covid-19 cases again. we didn't think we would be here after the vaccine. here we are in arizona. we know that right now they're seeing daily case totals that they haven't seen since february. in maricopa county, the most populous county in arizona, they're seeing a seven day average that they haven't seen since february. the positivity rate recently was around 5%. now it's around 11%. icu beds are filling up again. the governor is imploring residents to get the vaccine. he said he got it himself. but he is also taking a slew of executive actions here that some say is kind of an opposition to what they're trying to do to curb the pandemic here including preventing k-12 schools from -- rather recinding an order an executive order that required k-12 schools to require masks. preventing state colleges and universities from requiring
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vaccines. preventing states and municipalities from requiring vaccines. it is frustrating for the doctors. an e.r. physician i spoke to here says we have this tool in our tool kit. yet there is a plateau of vaccinations. he said everybody anecdotally that he is seeing in the e.r. diagnosed with severe covid-19 is unvaccinated. >> i've been, as you heard, the dwrat showing younger people coming in. they feel like they're immune or they're not going to be as at risk even if they get it. when they come in the hospital, they feel differently. clearly, they were sick enough to come to the e.r. and then they regret it. >> so he says that if the goal is to not be as bad lastz summer, that's not good enough. he says the more realistic goal that is within the realm of possibility is to put this pandemic behind us. encourage people vaccine hesitant, understand them but encourage them to go and get the
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shot. and he also says this is compounded at least in his hospital with staffing shortages. he says a lot of nurses are leaving because they're burnt out. >> let's talk about this from the white house decision making process. they're going to be driven by the science when they make the decisions. it was not too long ago that there was an element of success when the president was declaring an independence from the virus. he did warn though throughout all of this that we may find ourselves back in a difficult situation if we do not take vaccinations seriously. how concerned is the white house about the delta variant, vaccination rates and, again, with mask mandates? >> the point i was making is clear. this decision came entirely from public health officials and the
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cdc. and a lot of the recommendations are made based on an ever evolving and changing landscape and ever evolving virus. everything that we knew about opening schools, for instance, and schools school spread and transmission is based on the alpha variant. we're dealing with a different beast here with much higher rates of transmission. i think the important question here that still outstanding is when we're going to see this data that shows us exactly how much vaccinated individuals are actually potentially spreading this virus. the cdc director is caveated, ayman when she said this is happening on rare occasions when individuals may be contagious and spread. she made pretty clear that the onus really still here is on the unvaccinated. and that we're in this situation because of so many individuals who did not get vak sun ated
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with vaccinated with the overall rate at 50%. >> doctor, i want to ask you about the politicalization of the this. when you look at how vaccinations have played out and the misinformation that exists out there that has been a factor and why some people have not gotten vaccinated, you also look at where we were a couple months ago talking about whether or not we should be wearing masks. the do you think this time around, given how just the broad politicalization, if you will, of the pandemic played out, people are going to heed this mask mandate from the cdc once again? >> the recommendations from the cdc are recommendations. they're going to be implemented to local governments and departments of health. this is not a universal mandate. so we're going to see every community hand this will recommendation a little differently. there are some that never had
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mask mandates. so i fully expect that different communities are going to handle this differently. >> i do hope that as people see the virus surge again, you can step away from the politics and realize this is about science and about human lives. i think that is up to individual departments of health to communicate with their communities in ways that make sense to them. >> all right. dr. megan rainy, lindsey riser, thank all for starting us off this hour. and our other top story, an emotional hearing on capitol hill today into what exactly happened on january 6th. >> the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. >> more gripping testimony from the officer who's survived that day coming up. plus, reaction from a member of
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on january 6th held the first public hearing by having four officers that served on the front lines testify. during their testimony, they detailed in great amount of information the violence they witnessed and the injuries they are still recovering from. listen. >> on january 6th, first time i was more afraid to work at the capitol in my entire deployment to iraq. in iraq we spent view lens because we were in a war zone. but nothing my experience in the army or as a law enforcement officer prepared me for what i was experienced on january 6th. >> i was grabbed, beaten, tased and called traitor to my country. i was at risk being stripped of and killed with my own firearm as i heard chants of "kill him with his own gun." i can still hear those words in
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my head today. >> they attempted to knock me over and steal my baton. one latched ton my face and got his thumb in my right eye attempting to gouge it out. i cried out in pain. i managed to shake him off. >> what makes the struggle harder and more painful is to know that so many fellow citizens including so many of the people i put my life at us are being to defend are downplaying or outright denying what happened. >> joining me now nbc news capitol hill correspondent and retired los angeles police department sergeant. you were in the room for parts of today's open hearing. . what was it like in that room? >> hey, ayman, it was difficult testimony to listen to. and that was evidenced by the way that the lawmakers were paying such close attention to every single word that was being said. the but what was even more
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intense was when they played the footage of the officers' body cameras, watching the officers having to relive that moment was quite intense, officer gonell, he picked up tissue and had to wipe his eyes several times through the playing of some of that video. but it was also evident that those officers were still angry. they are extremely sad and extremely frustrated with how some members of congress have been portraying what happened that day. and they came here to say that they're there to tell the truth and they're there to show what actually happened that day that it wasn't a tourist visit. it was actually terrorists in the budding, ayman. >> sergeant dorsey, the officers on capitol hill watched their colleagues testify before the select committee. what was it luke for you as well
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to watch it? what are you hearing from other officers about today? >> well-being a supervisor myself and watching these officers testify, it made me very proud. i know it's very difficult in certain circles to speak truth about what went on. there's ribbing. there's retaliation that can occur. and so i was happy to see the officers be consistent in their truthfulness. i'm saddened and disheartened, bothered by those who would minimize and mitigate what happened to them h the gop, those who describe this as tourists at the capitol, the gutless cowardless republicans who wouldn't acknowledge the mother of brian sicknick who lost his life in pursuit of keeping them safe disgusting to me. so i hope accountability will
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rain and those at the highest levels including the instigator in chief donald trump are held accountable. >> the officer dunn described some of the racist language he and other black officers faced during the january 6th attack. it was certainly a disturbing moment to hear. i should warn our viewers the testimony, they are about to hear, references a racist term. i do want to play for them. it is just very gripping. listen to this moment. >> one woman in a pink shirt yelled, "you hear that, guys? this nigger voted for joe biden" then the crowd joined in and yelled boo [ beep ] nigger. he was confronted by insurrectionists who told him put your gun down and we'll show you what kund of nigger you really are. . >> what is your action to what
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officer dunn just described and what does that tell us about that day? >> it breaks our heart and tells us about that day, much about today. we have a racist among us, certainly civilians. we expect that. but now we know there were police officers, they were barge carrying police officers in that group who were also probably chanting some of that same foolishness. we should not be surprised by the things that we see happening on a national level by card carrying klansmen. they need to be held to a higher standard. >> thanks to the both of you joining us. joining me now is dan kildee. thank you so much for your time and welcome back to the program. i know on january 6th, you shot this video of law enforcement officers with weapons drawn protecting you and other members of congress for showing it to our viewers there having your personal experience for context, what do you make of today's testimony from the four officers
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of the capitol police? >> it was a powerful day. it was powerful testimony. i mean these are capitol police officers who put their lives at risk to protect us, to protect the capitol, to protect our institutions of democracy. but the human beings too. we saw that today. they felt their lives were at risk because they were. and it's important and we kick off this investigation to set the proper frame and i think the committee did an excellent job both the democrats and the republicans on the committee of making sure that this story from the eyes of the people who are most impacted, those officers, was -- were the first voices to be heard. i thought it was a very powerful moment. >> i want to ask you about this powerful moment from michael fanone. he was beaten by the rioters. he suffered a heart attack that day. he addressed those that continued to down play the events of that day and here's a part of that. watch.
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>> i feel like i went to hell and back to protect them and the people in this room. but too many are now telling me that hell doesn't exist. or that hell actually wasn't that bad. the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful! >> what do you say, congressman, to colleagues of yours, republicans who continue to this day to down play what happened on january 6th? >> i tell them they should examine their conscience and they should think about the long view of history. history will not treat them well. the facts of what happened on january 6th will be known to everyone. this set of hearings will help to tell that story. but people who right now, republicans and the house, not all, but most are ignoring this moment or trying to rewrite the
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history of january 6th, they'll not be viewed well over the long view of history. the facts are going to ultimately be proven. we don't know all the facts. what we know already is enough for them. i think, to join with us and do everything we can do to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening again. let's make it clear. by them trying to excuse this moment, they leave open the possibility that could happen again. because they give comfort to those -- to that mob. those people are still out there. they give comfort to those people that they were in the right. >> day one is in the history books as the committee continues to hold hearings and go forward. what questions would you like to see answered? obviously, one of the big remaining ones is how did this go from the rally on the mall to an attack on capitol hill? who coordinated that? who organized that? how do you and other members of the committee plan on getting
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those answers? >> i think we need to go deep in terms of the interaction between the groups, between the individuals who helped organize this. and that may also include some of my colleagues and congress. they were present that attacked. it came completely prepared. i thought congresswoman cheney asked the right questions when she said we need to know about all of the communications, including any communications between this building and the white house. anyone inside the white house, all those conversations should be subject to scrutiny. i think only when we get those answers will we fully understand the story of january 6th. what we know is bad enough. but it could be worse than what we know. and we have to answer those questions in order to be able to move on as a nation, as a people. >> all right. congressman dan kildee, thank you for your time. i greatly appreciate it.
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president biden's message to the intelligence community, a much different tone than that of his predecessor. plus a top infrastructure negotiator expected to make a white house visit later today. we'll talk about what this development could mean with democratic senator mazie hirono. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports. everything that you see wants to kill you and can. ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ born to be wild ♪ ♪ ♪ see disney's jungle cruise. applebee's and a movie, now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. ♪all by yourself.♪ you look a little lost. i can't find my hotel. oh. oh! ♪♪
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happening right now, president biden is visiting top security experts at the office of the director of national intelligence. this is the first visit as
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president to an agency of the u.s. intelligence community. while there, president biden intends to highlight the difference between himself and predecessor and the add mile an hour admiration for work and free their jobs from any political interference. on capitol hill, the future of one of the president's top policy goals is looking increasingly unclear. as negotiators from both parties struggle to settle policy disputes on a bipartisan infrastructure deal. with us is nbc news national political reporter. we'll talk about infrastructure here. it's something you've been following these negotiations. i know that the top democratic negotiator on this deal just met with president biden to discuss how these talks are going. talk about what prompted this meeting and where things stand this afternoon based on your reporting.
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>> that's right. nbc news has learned that president biden and senator met earlier today as negotiators are working to finalize the details of this infrastructure framework they struck more than a month ago. president biden and the senator who as you mentioned the leigh lead democratic negotiator have a lot riding on. this the president campaigned on being able to work across the aisle and cut deals with republicans. this is an opportunity for him to do that. sinema is an outspoken proponent of the senate 60 vote threshold and the question for her is going to be if you can't show that the democrats can work with republicans on this issue, something as basic and popular as infrastructure, then what is the future of that 60-vote threshold. sources telling me just moments ago that they spoke about the shared confidence that they can get this framework over the finish line in the near future. >> drill down on the specifics for us.
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walk us through what policies seem to be causing these disputes among the negotiators. >> a couple of them stand out. the single biggest one is the distribution of money between highways and public transit. for democrats, public transit is a big priority. it is a way to kind of enhance equity for people for their constituents. it's a way to combat climate change. republicans want less money for public transit and more money for highways. many of them, of course, represent rural areas where cars are the only way to get around. so transit is one issue. and another issue that we heard lately is broadband policy. democrats sent what one source called a global offer two days ago seemed to resolve all the lingering issues. we're told that republicans sent a counter offer particularly on the issue of transit and we have not heard back on the latest there. i did ask senator chuck schumer, the democratic leader in the last hour, how things are going and what the status is of the negotiations.
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he says there is stul a number of ush use outstanding. but those issues he says have narrowed quite a bit. >> let's head back over to the conversation around dni. we know the president is there and meeting with officials. what are the officials in the intelligence community both hoping to hear from the decrees this afternoon, perhaps what are they presenting? >> most intelligence professionals i know don't require a lot of cheerleading. in fact, they work they're hearts out. they work the long hours even throughout the four years of the trump presidency. he was essentially at war with his own intelligence community, refuting things they were telling him. and intelligence leaders woke up every day worried they may be fired. they still worked hard. they're human and happy to hear the message we heard from joe biden. politics has no place in the untell jens community and he's a president who respects and wants to take the information that his
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intelligence professionals are presenting. doesn't mean he'll listen to everything they say or adhere to the advice. but he cares about the work. it is interesting he went to the director of national intelligence. it is at the office complex called liberty crossing. as opposed to the cia which is the hollywood version of the spy world where they, you know, they're doing drone strikes from inside langley, virginia. they're doing covert operations. because biden is a man who respects the hierarchy of government and the dni is in charge and that's where he is today, ayman. >> all right. thank you very much. i want to turn back now to the battle over infrastructure. joining me is democratic senator mazie hirono from hawaii. thank you for your time. let's stand where things are. senator sinema just met with the president today. do you see this as a positive indicator or is it a sign that
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democrats need some backup from the white house? >> i think we could use backup from the white house. i also see this as a sign that discussions are proceeding and we're prepared to stay for during this upcome being weekend. as far as i'm concerned, we should stay through august to get these bills done. >> i want to ask you. joe manchin issued a warning for majority leader chuck schumer saying if the bipartisan -- senator, stay with me for a second. i'd like to play president biden right now at the dni. let's listen to him. >> you notice -- thank you again. >> president biden -- >> beg your pardon? >> will you require all federal employees to get vaccinated? >> that is under consideration right now. if you're not vaccinated, you're not as smart as i thought you were. >> you are concerned that the
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cdc mask guidance could sew confusion? >> we have a pandemic because the unvaccinated are spreading mass confusion. the more we learn about this virus and the delta variation, the more we have to be worried and concerned. and only one thing we know for sure, if those other hundred million people got vaccinated, we would be in a very different world. so get vaccinated. if you haven't, you're not nearly as smart as i said you were. thank you. >> all right. you were listening to president biden taking two questions there from reporters after addressing employees at dni. he was asked by the reporters, first question was, will the federal government mandate vaccines for all federal employees? he responded by saying, it is under consideration. another question the president
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directing a little bit of criticism for those who remain unvaccinated saying what we have now is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. senator, while i have you, let me just ask you that same question that was asked to the president if i may. should federal employees across all the governments, members of congress and what you have, be required, be mandated to take a vaccine? >> a lot of the decision wez made are a result of science and facts. and that it will be the considerations that will get us to the pount where we may need to require all federal employees to be vaccinated and to wear masks. but again, as far as i'm concerned, these decisions should be made based on science and facts. so that remains to be seen. what the cdc will suggest next. but there is no question in my mind and the president the more people vaccinated, the more we're going to get over this pandemic.
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and we're not there yet. there are all these people who think that it's their freedom or something to remain unvaccinated and thereby being vulnerable for themselves and those around them. >> let me go back to infrastructure. thank you for your patience while we're playing that sound from the president. i did want to ask you about something senator joe manchin said. he is saying to majority leader chuck schumer saying in part, "if the bipartisan infrastructure deal falls part, everything falls apart. both of them are extremely important. when one falls apart, how do you move on the other one"? do you agree with your colleague senator joe manchin that in is no bipartisan infrastructure bill, the human infrastructure bill will also probably fall part? >> joe manchin is very committed to having a bipartisan infrastructure bill done. in my mind, those two items, the traditional infrastructure bill
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and the american family plan which is the other infrastructure bill, in my mind, those two went together. and i consider what joe said to simply reinforce that. i also think that what he said is a way to push the infrastructure negotiations to some sort of, i hope, conclusion so that we can get on with both infrastructure bills. >> but if the bipartisan one doesn't pass, will the other one also fall apart? >> i think that -- if that happens, it will be more than tragic. but it is exactly where mitch mcconnell wants us to be. i don't think that joe manchin wants us to be where mitch mcconnell wants us to be which is nothing. so nothing doesn't help our -- the american people. and, you know, i think joe manchin wants american people to be helped. so he's articulating something that a lot of us committed to which is that both of the bills should happen together. but as far as i'm concerned, if
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if the first bill, traditionally infrastructure bill doesn't go through, then i am prepared to deal with as much of that in the -- through reconciliation as possible. but that's not where joe is. >> let me ask you what we saw play out on capitol hill today which was the police officers, capital police officers testifying about what they experienced on the front lines january 6th. powerful testimony. talking about their experiences. what was your reaction to what you heard? what do you high pressure comes? >> it's so clear that republicans don't care what happened to the capitol police they don't care what happened on january 6th. they want to go with another big lie. but to watch that footage and hear the testimony, portions of which i heard, it just brought it all back how important it is how our democracy was challenged. this was a mass insurrection.
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there were rioters out of control. willing to beat up anybody they could get their hands on including members of congress. there is little question in my mind but for the capitol police and them putting themselves on the line that if my of us were caught by this mob, we would have been hurt. to hear one of the officers for them to say for them to put their lives on the line for people who doesn't seem to care, what does that say? that was so telling to me that it -- what people should conclude is there is at least one group of people and that is nancy pelosi and this committee that care as well as the democrats who voted for and others a few republicans that voted for the bipartisan commission who care about what happened on january 6th and want to get to the bottom of it to make sure it never happens again. let there be no question, this was a mass insurrection and threat to democracy. that threat remains. >> all right. senator mazie hirono, thank you
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for your time and patience. major news from the tokyo olympics n a stunning move, usa gymnastics star simone biles withdrew from today's final. she won four gold medals at the rio games said she was not in a good place mentally to compete. >> it's been really stressful this owe lum pick games. i think just as a whole. i think we're just a little bit too stressed out. i just felt like it would be a little better to take a backseat to work on my mental health. >> teams rallied winning the sul ver. biles posting afterwards i'm so proud of these girls right here. you girls are incredibly brave and talented. i'll forever be inspired by your determination and to fight. they stepped up when i couldn't. thanks for being there for me and having my back forever. love y'all. and another big name at the games, naomi osaka representing japan on the tennis court was
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ousted in round three. she lit the olympic called ron and was widely expect dod win gold on the court. stephanie gosk is in tokyo with more. stephanie? >> so you know simone biles began this competition. she actually did one of her vaults and it is something she's done many times, before a very difficult one. a 2 1/2 twisting somersault. she lands it tonight. tonight she pulled out after a twist and a half and landed awkwardly. people watching it cringed. her position was filled by jordan chiles. the team went on to win the sul ver. usa gymnastics said that simone had a medical issue and they were going to assess it over the coming days. when simone was asked by nbc sports later whether it was a physical issue, she said, no. and she called it more mental. then we received this statement
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from the u.s. olympic committee. we applaud your decision to priority your mental wellness over all else and offer you the full support of our team usa community as you navigate the journey ahead. that journey ahead to supposed to include the all-around competition in a couple of days. and then the individual competitions next week. but it's unclear at this point whether they're going to go forward. simone herself saying that the pressure of carrying the success of not just the gymnast team but all of team usa coming into the shoulders was a lot to handle. back to you. >> all right. thank you to stephanie gosk reporting from tokyo. up next, i'll be joined by peter aguilar, a member of the january 6th select committee. his reaction to today's emotional testimony on capitol hill. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." ll you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports. it's not just for kids. whooping cough is highly contagious for people of any age. and it can cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits.
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let's turn back to that first hearing on the january 6 capitol insurrection. joining me is california democratic congressman pete aguilar who sits on the select committee and participated in today's hearing. congressman, thank you so much for your time. we saw some powerful testimony from those four police officers today, but do you think it actually changed any minds among those who have downplayed and
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flat-out denied what happened on january 6th? >> well, for those who took the time to watch and to hear those four officers speak to the circumstances that they saw firsthand on january 6th, it's hard to believe that anyone could hear that testimony and then not believe that this was a violent insurrection. these officers, it was raw, it was emotional, and they conveyed exact low what they experienced and went through, which was heart wrenching. to have them retell that, it was really tough for everyone in the room. >> you during the hearing asked one of the more pointed questions to daniel hodges of the metropolitan police, why he described the crowd as nationalists. let me play for you and our viewers his reply. watch. >> the crowd was overwhelmingly white males, usually a bit
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older. there were many known organizations with ties to white supremacy that had a presence there. people who associate with donald trump you find more likely to subscribe to that kind of belief system. >> what did you take away of that answer? what does the makeup of the crowd reveal about how and why this happened? >> well, from all of his answers, it's very clear that the crowd was incredibly violent and used everything they could get their hands on as a weapon. but what he clearly articulated there too is these were individuals who had incredibly bad intentions, but they were also yelling racial slurs at officers and questioning officer hodges as to whose side he was on, calling him a traitor. these are incredibly painful things. these are officers who put their life on the line each and every day, but that day, that fateful day, they were the last line of defense for democracy. and so that's what i take out of
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it is that clearly there's other things at play and that just underscores the importance of the work that the committee has to do to find out who's responsible, who funded it and how do we make sure it never happens again. i want to play for you something representative jim banks who was rejected by speaker pelosi said when he and on fox news just after today's hearing. watch. >> if i would have been seated and allowed to be in that room and do my duty as the ranking member of the committee, i would have asked a question that neither of the republicans, none of the democrats asked. why were they not prepared for january 6th when there was intelligence dating back three weeks before that told them something dangerous was going to happen on that day. >> your reaction to that, congressman, and to that specific point? >> you can always count on house republicans to play politics with this. that's not an appropriate question for these four officers. but there clearly are going to be questions about the intelligence sharing among the
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hierarchy of capitol police as well as other federal agencies who might have had details and information. and those questions will come. and we will get to the bottom of this. but these officers, the importance of today's hearing was for them to convey firsthand that they were the last line of defense and what they experienced. individuals yelling at them, throwing things at them. that was important. it was important to build on that moving forward for future discussions and hearings. >> all right, congressman pete aguilar, i know it's been a long day for you. thank you so much. look forward to continuing this conversation with you as the hearings go forward. that wraps up the hour for me. i'll see you right back here tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace starts right after this quick break with much more on today's january 6th committee hearing. committe e hearing. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi. hi, i'm debra.
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