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if it's wednesday, whitewashing the capitol insurrection. shunning vaccines and masks. republicans keep appeasing trump, and what do they have to show for it? plus, about-face on masks for vaccinated individuals, now expecting a major announcement on vaccine requirements. don't call it a mandate. requirements, for federal workers from the white house. bottom line is, covid vaccine mandates, are they coming to other places like schools, and are they coming soon? plus, double deja vu, tensions over a mask mandate. again and signing infrastructure deal might be close to done. you hear that, is done meaning done, or done machining
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finished? if you get my drift. welcome "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. lawmakers quarrelling ober new mask man dates and signaling the day came to a deal with republicans and president biden. dive into the latest on those stories. the most important development in american politics. hence the leadoff for"mtp daily." and what this reveals about the limits of donald trump's party. it was not a good day for the former president or republicans who frankly should know better.
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many do, but have chosen time and again to somehow appease him. look at where that's left them completely sidelined at yesterday's hearing, a powerful indictment of trump's supporters. >> when you think about that and share with us the vivid memory of the cruelty and violence of the assault that day, and then you hear former president trump say, "it was a loving crowd." there was a lot of love in the crowd. how does that make you feel? >> it's yub setting. upsetting. a pathetic excuse for something had you himself helped monstros
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>> outright denying what happened. the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful! >> and pouring into the lobby near the rotunda, some wearing maga hats and shirts that said "trump 2020." i told them to just leave the capitol and their response, they yelled, no, man. this is our house. president trump invited us here. we're here to stop the steal. >> appeasing trump also put republicans in the awkward position trying to now whitewash the dangerous insurrection that took place on january 6th falsely suggesting it was somehow all nancy pelosi's fault and appeasing trump allowed misinformation to flourish largely where, where vaccinations lag and masking, which has and will be apparently always shunned. the same places his hardest by
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the virus' resurgence. i could go on and on with republicans deciding to apieces former president. help incite and insurrection, top of the ticket, led republicans to one of their worst electoral drubbings in a presidential cycle ever. the point here is that for republicans it's not clear what all of this trump appeasement is getting them politically. in some cases cozy up to trump to sahr vive as a republican in good standingof in a place where a primary matters only, maybe you understand. in other cases, a ticket to nowhere. case in point, trump swaying the republican party faced and interesting test. texas congressional runoff featuring two republican candidates. extremely low turnout race. the one with the coveted trump endorsement lost. nbc's lianne caldwell is on
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capitol hill. also with us, former virginia congresswoman barbara comstock. literally, 24 hours from the first hearing. came on the air just as it was ending. 24 hours later, give me a sense of what you're hearing from republicans. i know what they're saying publicly. is there private regret how both mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy handled this entire january 6th commission debacle? >> reporter: so unclear, chuck. the reason is because publicly they're trying to put on a good face saying that they don't regret it. you heard what leader mccarthy said all day yesterday trying to blame speaker pelosi, which is really inex-politicable. she had no role on what happened january 6th and usually a good political message for republicans heading into midterm elections especially, but that's when it comes to, you know, the
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debt and government spending and democratic priorities and policies that, i don't know if that's going to work when it comes to an insurrection. when they're trying to deprotect it from what happened on january 6th and the former president's role. you know, leader mcconnell also seems to be looking ahead. he always, you know, hi aides and people close to him say he doesn't look behind, doesn't have regrets, chosen the path and will continue to move forward, but you can also see a lot of distance between him and some aspects of the republican party on this issue that you brought up of vaccines. he did a psa he's releasing to encourage people to get vaccinated, because he knows that is not good for the republican party, if they are losing republican voters to covid, chuck. >> barbara comstock, was yesterday a splash of cold water at all for some elected
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republicans? you know, look, you've heard the case probably made to you privately. well, you just don't understand. he's so popular. okay. well, if he's so popular, it didn't pay off your susan wright in that fort worth, texas, district, and -- boy, it now puts elected republicans in a really awkward position of having to, and jim banks did this yesterday. attack police officers as crisis actors. i mean, where has the party put itself right now? >> well, you know, chuck, as i said to you before. if donald trump disappeared few elected officials would be in the search party. you see how well the officers did yesterday. donald trump said remember this day always on january 6th, and thanks to those great officers and their testimony that was unfiltered, really, on all networks yesterday and cables. so people got to see for themselves.
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these men were under oath. so when jim banks was attacking them, he said, actually, you know, he didn't think that was their testimony. they were scripted. if he spent any time with these men, which i have with officer fanone and har, these were men who speak their own mind, of strong character and he would know they're speaking the truth andeneder oath. very insulting. and outrageous. i think it's foolish for republicans to be attacking these officers, and i do want to correct one other thing. you called liz and adam kinzinger anti-trump, but what they are is pro-democracy. and pro-rule of law, and they back the blue. so i think the election last night, actually, i'm on the board of a woman's group that did support susan wright, but when she became just a trump-only candidate, i think it was an easy opportunity for the
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other side and i'm pleased with the outcome. stand up for yourself, run on your own ideas, as se said, the guy who won a reagan republican, but has his own ideas on things. i think men and women standing on their own two feet speaking for themselvesycophants on your donald trump is a much better way to go into 2022. >> and in many ways focusing particularly on early primary challengers that donald trump's trying to recruit to knock off anybody who went against him in impeachment and things like this. been on the ground in texas there. outside of fort worth. that district in particular, looked like a district that -- that you wouldn't want to play the trump card. you know? particularly -- yes, it's a special election, but is this a canary in the coal mine? something to be learned in the
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words of barbara comstock a pro-democracy republican, code word, you're not on the trump side? >> one big caveat in this race which is a top two system. texas has a special election, it's a california-louisiana-style system. democrats wound up on election day and in the early vote not having their own candidate to run off. they boxed themselves out. so jake who won in the final stretch of the campaign reaching out to democrats and not saying i'm going to vote with nancy pelosi, just saying, remind people susan wright is endorsed by trump and saying he would focus on public education. not get phoo the weeds, an issue in texas races. he's allowed to do that. cochran won in 2014 in part getting democrats to vote for him in the runoff. a futuristic trump universe strategy. blood for growth, emphasizing the trump endorsement pretrending 47% who voted for
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joe biden did not exist. in a primary only republican voters, you won't have the same issues. to endorse wright, didn't know well. to put some skin in the game without commitment to the campaign was going to run hard, which is really did. did not -- she did not do many interviews or events. he invested in something with a strategy that did not make sense and people are surprised. talked to rick perry a week ago saying it wouldn't happen. the president made a bad decision. of course blames people near the president, not the president himself for making that call. the former president. >> lianne, curious -- curious today. i mean, have you gotten a sense of, is there quiet relief that maybe a trump endorsement -- doesn't mean what -- what many want it to mean? >> reporter: well, i was talking to one senator this morning, chuck, and this senator told me that they, there is still a lot of concern among those running
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for re-election about primary challengers, and that is something that is front and center to a lot of these members, and the senator admitted that it is becoming a growing problem in these districts and these states that it is very hard to be "a reasonable person" what this senator said. so they are facing a very difficult decision moving forward on how they deal with this, if they continue to, know, try to appease the right, which they know they will probably lose their primaries, if they don't. so all of this comes down to is electoral politics and, you know, privately, as we you know, like to talk about. they are very concerned and distressed about this, but the only way forward, they can see, is to continue to move to the right until they get past these primary challengers. >> and leigh ann, back to the hearing itself, and what we're going to expect next.
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is there, do you sense any movement by kevin mccarthy now 24 hours later realizing, i mean, i don't quite -- i don't quite understand his stunt of pulling republicans from another select committee as if that's going to solve his political messaging problem. is he rethinking this strategy? >> reporter: yeah. well, he did pull republicans from another select committee on eck quitability, and disparities, and economic situation. you know, mccarthy is in a very difficult place right now. he is not going to have a seat at the table. you know, he -- he lobbied the senate very hard not to, for these republican senators not to move forward with this commission, this non-partisan commission. and he was successful. the republicans in the senate blocked it, and now everything that he was worried about is actually coming to fruition, and now he can't control the
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messaging. now he can't sit in on those committees. now he has no staff to direct where these committees go, and so he chose the, you know -- he chose which path he's going to take and he's really having a lot of difficulty going there, but what people continue to say to me is that leader mccarthy, he wants to be speaker. this is the only way he sees that is how to become speaker of the house is by appeasing the former president and the republican base in the most conservative members in this party, chuck. >> yeah. you know, barbara, curious. in the tenth congressional district you represented in virginia, are they going to view liz cheney and adam kinzinger as somehow republicans in democrats' clothing? or is the average sort of moderate maybe right-leaning voter going say, huh. well, cheney, that seems like a bipartisan investigation to me. i mean, is this where mccarthy
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has miscalculated? >> i think he has. in my former district trump got all of 38% in the last election. he is not thought of positively at all, but i certainly did hear yesterday from republicans and former republicans who aren't democrats but would like to have a party again they were very encouraged by the hearing, but also encouraged by races like last night that people can run on their own pine do think, if you trust the voters here going into next year, i think there are a lot of people who don't want to have someone like an eric greatgreatin in missouri. they understand they can lose the senate. like a scandal plague. a big politico story on max miller challenging anthony gonzalez in ohio and he is a terrible candidate, and who hasn't been vetted. i think you have a situation with the whole trump team. it doesn't really have a great
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record. remember, they supported chris kobach and kansas and reliable republican state lost the governorship thanks to donald trump. their team led by mark meadow still it seems are pretty bad at picking winners even in his own seat. mark meadows picked the person who lost. we ended up with madison hawthorne. no great case there. so, please, somebody else run in that seat, but i don't think his endorsements are going to mean that much. so if people decide to get out there and run, i'm confident anthony gonzalez, who voted for impeachment will win that seat because he's a grinder out there working hard every day. passing legislation. popular legislator, and liz and adam, same thing. i think you're going to see this across the board where people who aren't scared of trump and just run on their own will do better, because these people around trump and a lot of these groups, they were the people
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that brought losses, todd in missouri, and christine o'donnell, i'm not a witch. this is their team. they're a team of people who pick losers, and donald trump lost the house, the white house, and then the senate for republicans. so continuing to go with this mar-a-lago orange guy strategy is not a winning strategy. mitch mcconnell gets that. i think a lot of house members are going to start getting that more. >> is there evidence on the ground, though, that, is there a silent reasonable -- plurality inside the republican tent that might -- that might become a firewall for some of these less trump-friendly republicans? >> i don't see that and candidates matter's in ohio talking a little about it. the former president endorsed somebody without the most political support in the district.
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corey lewandowski was friends with. 23 trump keeps setting himself up against what barbara is describes, this will keep happening. sentiment of republican voters is not exhausted by trump and not worry, you see with kevin mccarthy. the republican party is messaging against the biden agenda even though biden is not that popular on a couple issuesin' not as coherent as against barack obama and as democrats were in 2017. a little frustration that endlessly asking about, and the 2020 election, getting closer to a message that can win in the midterms, the issue is because of gerrymandering and other factors you don't see much worry that republicans, nominated in one of these districts would lose it. i don't see much pushback and sentiment ready to move on. check polling. as long as super majority republican voters think 2020 was stolen, i don't think that's the sentimentant right. one little thing to put an
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exclamation point on. one out of time. you tweeted about this. yesterday the president former president put out a press relief trashing the infrastructure deal and apparently all that's led to is a republican cutting a deal with democrats today. anyway, just -- you know -- he speaks. me thinks that the tiger is made of a lot of cheap paper. anyway -- leigh ann, dave weigel, former virginia congresswoman barbara comstock appreciate you helping us get started today. thank you. up next, we're going to deitsch into the science behind the cdc's latest change in masking recommendations. pitting some republicans against some democrats and some parents against teachers. wearing masks in school. is it needed? what's going to happen when it leads to the masking mandates that are coming soon? soon
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welcome back. we just learned president biden is expected to announce what he's calling a vaccine requirement for all federal workers tomorrow. not a full-fledged mandate. we'll explain. a major step forcing more than 2 million americans to prove they're fully vaccinated, and why it's not technically a mandate, you become subject to stricter and regular testing. the news comes as the delta variant rips through unvaccinated populations across the country and as the biden administration is defending the cdc's updated guidance that fully vaccinated americans should wearing a masks indoors and areas of high transmission. on this map, the areas in orange and red that you're looking at here. quite a big chunk of the country. but at least concentrated really in the rocky mountain interior west and the south. here's dr. fauci. >> we've learned clearly now without a doubt that people who are vaccinated get a
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breakthrough infection actually have enough virus in their nasal fair inks they can actually transmit it to other people and have documented transmitted to other people. so because of that, the virus has really changed, and that is really triggered the change in the cdc guidelines. >> the new guidance is bringing new questions and causing tensions. everyone from parents to politicians. public leader kevin mccarthy put out this statement. make no mistake the threat of bringing masks bas is a decision conjured up by liberal officials who want to live in a perpetual pandemic site. from pennsylvania, president biden set to speak in less than an hour wearing a mask and for the medical and scientific aspect, doctor patel.
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shannon, start with you in pennsylvania. the most visual, i think, you know -- trying to look at the calendar. it's still -- okay. it's july 28th. on july 4th, president biden wanted to celebrate this idea that we were moving beyond the pandemic. today getting a very visual setback. president biden's got to put a mask back on today. where are we headed here and what's this federal mandate going to look like? >> reporter: right. well, a white house official expected everyone to be in masks today given we are in the orange zone according to the cdc guidance. it doesn't appear the president is wearing a mask now. we'll see later. certainly something we're keeping an eye on and i was just checking with sources again to find out the latest on the mask protocol and whether they're following considered kr guidelines. to your much bigger point, the quote/unquote summer of freedom. independence from the virus. the messaging in june going into this month. clearly the masks are such a
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visible symbol we have had a setback in this battle against the virus. the administration is hoping this will be a temporary setback. getting more people vaccinated they can move beyond this, but, of course, you've talked to people as well. republicans are seizing on this moment to attack biden on one of the areas that he is strongest on. so his response to the pandemic. the white house is hoping they can move the message beyond that to infrastructure with this deal supposedly being reached later today with a speech today in pennsylvania about american manufacturing. but, of course, this mask issue continues to dominate across the country. >> yeah. shannon, right now, by the way, for viewers, showing live pictures of the president. not wearing a mask. but with two other people, and that's it. not in a big group here. taking his tour, if you will. shannon, do we have any update, when he makes this announcement tomorrow about federal government workers, what about the military?
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i know the military's plan was to wait until it was a fully authorized vaccine and then a mandate likely put in place. but what about that going forward? do we know of plans that changed at the pentagon? >> reporter: as of last night, it sounded like everything was still under discussion, and going through a wider policy review. so while this decision is pretty finalized, as far as the desire to have federal workers all vaccinated, or have to go through a rigorous testing mask-wearing protocol, well, that decision is pretty much made. there's the legal issues that have to be sorted out and some details. of course, members of the military, they are already required to get other vaccinations, so depending where their operations are and what their role is. it would not be unusual at all for members of the military to be required to get any vaccine.
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if the holdup is it hasn't had full fda approval yet. a built of difference without distinction. once that full fda approval, certainly an expectation members of the military would be required to have this vaccine as well. >> all right. hang in there with me, shannon. dr. patel, talk about the science behind this decision. i'm in a place right now in the orange zone. why -- i'm fully vaccinated. why do i need to wear a mask? explain. >> yeah, chuck. i'll offer shouldn't matter what zone. we're getting emerging data fully vaccinated individuals, they are incredibly protected themselves, but there's more data that they can give this virus. particularly the delta variant, which accounts for at least 83% of new cases, chuck, and reproduces at over 1200 times the previous variant in your
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nose and respiratory track making it incredibly easy. not 15 minutes of close contact. talking minutes of close contact and you can give it to someone else. in this case, a third of the country that remains unvaccinated. think of it this way. by the way, this data hasn't been published yet. referenced it yesterday, likely to come out soon. it is concerning. why you hear kind of what i would say the reversal of their may decision to remove masks for any vaccinated people. >> let me ask you further. you refer to some data out there. in fact, a study in israel that's indicated that as, the further away you've gotten from your full vaccination, getting closer to six months away, starting to see some weakening efficacy. and that because of that research, that's al driven this decision on masks for the vaccinated. i guess the question i have is, how vulnerable should people
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feel if vaccinated in say february. one of the early rounds, particularly older folks? should they think about getting a booster now? show up and -- frankly, we know so much vaccine. should they think about a booster on their own whether or not we're recommending it? >> great question. by the way, four people who are either over the age of 85, people with organ transplants, hiv, people on chronic steroids, a select group of patients data is clear they would benefit from a third dose. many hospitals and health systems, chuck, implementing that. despite this all being done under emergency authorization. but if you are, like, 95% of the country, and generally healthy, february vaccine doses or even myself who got vaccinated in december, the first thing to do not run out and get a third dose, because you're right. evidence points to that in israel, but we don't quite see enough of that breakthrough infection to indicate that the
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decreased community is not sufficient. put another way, we know being vaccinated even six months ago is still incredibly protective against what the vaccines were developed for. deaths and hospitalizations. the reason i say origin red doesn't matter, chuck, i don't see why a county blue next to a red county will not eventually have spillover of some kind. if you're concerned, don't want to take on that individual risk, wear a mask when you go into a congested indoor area, period, and it's not foolproof but an added layer of protection. >> at what point do we go from pandemic to endemic? i guess the other question is, are the vaccines going to become like the flu shot? probably going to have to -- at what point do we have to expect to do this annually. >> yeah. so on the first point, we hope that we will get to a place where we can start to move us to kind of limited, to pockets of
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the world, but it's going to take one, a much higher global vaccination rate. and, chuck, just i've been following other countries. we're seeing a lot of, not even vaccine hesitancy. vaccine refusal in other countries. so this could just linger back and forth. but needs to be -- higher global vaccination rates and then i do think given the type of virus this is, the coronavirus, and just what we're seeing with kind of that, whipping its way around. not fast but enough mutations to pose a threat, some regular vaccine series is likely in all of our futures. will it be a two dose, six months? reassured in israel, six to eight months out still had incredible immunity. decreased also pfizer releasing data supporting a third dose would help.
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the first crew that gets that third dose, immunocompromised high-rick workers and then work our way through but we need to vaccinate a third of the country first. our best line of defense. >> right. just going to say. i hope to have the luxury of worrying about the booster shots. get everybody vaccinated once first and go from there. shannon pettypiece in pennsylvania, which i think we're correcting the record. in a yellow county technically. maybe didn't have to wear a mask? shannon, your understanding? if it's yellow? correct? >> reporter: yes. a white house official told me. we are in the yellow zone. speaks to the confusion the doctor is referencing about what is orange, what is yellow? it's changing every day. i spend a lot of time looking at a map last night figures what zone this was in. yes, broader confusion, though, we are in yellow, why the white house said the president isn't in a mask. >> well, if we're having trouble
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articulating it and interpreting it, it means a lot of other people are as well. thank you both on this issue. up next, the deep divides over masking and vaccines and what it means for our childrened an our teachers, and schools. that's next. are go for launch. ♪♪ t-minus two minutes and counting. ♪♪ um, she's eating the rocket. -copy that, she's eating the rocket. i assume we needed that? [chomping sound] ♪♪ lunchables! built to be eaten. she has eaten the rocket. [girl burps] over.
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when the cdc updated its machk guidance for vaccinated people it updated for schools now
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saying all k-12 students should wear masks regardless of vaccination. american federation of teachers union calls it a necessary precaution. speak to the head of the aft in a moment. first, morgan chesky joins me from dallas where texas governor greg abbott banned masks from schools. so, morgan, talk about your mixed messaging here. so, in dallas county, if you're a principal or a, at a high school and you feel the right thing to do is to have masks on, are you allowed to institute this? or is it against texas law? >> reporter: yeah, chuck. their hands are tied currently. i spoke with the texas teachers association and asked that exact same question. they said right now school districts and educators, particularly campus
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administrators, should they make that decision for a mask rule for staff and students not only could face a potential fine, but also the potential loss of state funding, and that's according to the office of governor greg abbott, who as of right now has maintained their similar stance we heard in reasons months's 2345 is, he trusts texans to "do the right thing" when it comes to limiting the spread of covid-19, and even as numbers tick up here in the state of texas, hospitalizations quadrupling over the past month, that is the current stance from the governor. that said, all across the country we're hearing from concerned educators. i want you to hear what one teacher in new york had to say about the upcoming school year and the existing presence and resurgence of covid-19. >> it is really difficult to teach wearing masks. really difficult. but we did it. we did it last year, and if we have to continue it until we get
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a handle on delta we're going to have to do that. i understand the desire to want to unmask, and perhaps the older grades based on maybe vaccination rate, that they could go unmasked, but i really foresee our babies in our schools, to be masked, because -- they're not safe. they're not safe. >> reporter: despite the rising numbers here in the state of texas, the governor's stance remains the samd. important to know note interviewing the state teachers association i asked explicitly how this is impacting educators across the state not knowing what they can do ahead of the upcoming school year. she says several instances of teachers leaving their profession entirely because they don't feel like they have enough resources in place to keep themselves safe for the upcoming school year. chuck?
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>> a great point to end on, morgan, for my next guest. morgan chesky in dallas from msnbc news, thank you. joining me, and to talk to about this and other covid-related diseases, good to have you on. president of the teachers association. let me start with -- start with the texas example. texas isn't the only state that tried to basically ban mandates. either on masks or on vaccines. we know a couple of these sun belt states have done it. what is the position of the union on this? and is this something that would be worth striking over? >> so our position is -- so, look. number one, we want schools to reopen, and have a safe and welcoming climate in the fall, and since, as you know, chuck, since may, we have been trying to find all sorts of different
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ways to get everyone on the same page to have that kind of safe and welcoming environment. what's happening now is that delta threw us a real curveball, and, you know, the lack of the -- herd immunity, and enough people being vaccinated, and, you know, kids not being able to get vaccines, 12 and under, has really thrown this curveball that says that, while vaccination is the number one gold standard, that we need to, you know, bring back our masks for schools. so the bottom line is, we're going to keep kids safe. we're going to keep our members safe, and we're going to try to open up schools and we're going to try to move through this political battlefield. the issue in terms of these texas schools is whether they are banning masks or whether
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they are refusing to mandate it. if they've banned masks, that's a whole different story that's going to raise all sorts of different health and safety concerns. for what i'm more concerned about right now is that you have this political minefield, but, look, i'm an asthmatic. say this last thing. sorry i'm going on for so long. i'm an asthmatic. like barbara, i hate wearing a mask. every time i wear a mask i have a hard time breathing because i'm asthmatic. but with figured out how to do it, teach kids and bottom line, if we want kids in school and everybody to be safe and keep schools open, thsis what the scientists, this is what the pediatricians, are telling u.s. us we need to do because of delta. let's all just try to put politics to the side and try to do this to keep, to get schools open. >> let me go to another issue
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that i think that is not as clear-cut for you. i know where you are on masks's that is, vaccine requirement. and i know there are -- look, fairfax county, one of the largest public school systems, i believe they're going fob a government mandate on vaccines. i assume that will include the school system. making assumption, not 100% on that. as head of union, do you support that? my understanding teachers like the rest of the country, majority in favor of vaccines but it's not unanimous? >> so in our union we've done very extensive polling. over 90% of our meshes have gotten the vaccine. yet when we ask them, do you want it to be a mandate or not for themselves or for their kids, it's about 50/50. our position as a union has been, you need to mandate -- you need to negotiate any kind of
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vaccine mandate, but the dilemma i have on all of this, and i am a big proponent of vaccines, and, frankly, we are doing a lot of things this summer to up vaccine clinics and to do, as part of our $5 million back-to-school for everyone campaign. so we're big proponents of this and have really pushed for vaccines. the issue is the trust and how you create -- back to this over and over again -- how do you create a safe and welcoming environment so we get as many kids back to school in-person, and where people feel like there's a place of trust and transparency? and that is a real dilemma in this country right now, because of the politicization. i think that new york and my local in new york has been very positive about what bill de blasio did. i think new york made a very smart choice by saying, you either get vaccinated or your
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subjecting yourself to tests every week. personally i would say the same thing. i subjected myself to tests every week before, and now, because i want to keep my family safe. so, you know, i think that that's a smart choice. i think that's what governor cuomo has just done and what the president is going to do. but the bottom line is, we've got to get people to trust that public health keeps people safe, and it that the more we adopt the public health safeguards, the more we can get to, as you said, an endemic. >> let me ask you quickly. what's a bigger concern? i've seen so, for instance, in arlington county, they're seeing a shockingly low enrollment rate of new students in particular. spheres of layoffs of teachers. you heard the report in texas, from morgan, where teachers are walking away because they feel as if the public school systems aren't providing a safe environment. what's the bigger crisis you're
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dealing with as head of the union? teachers that may lose jobs because public school enrollment is down or is it keeping teachers safe and teachers walking away from the, from the entire school system? >> i think the biggest issue is that public schools and the safety and the health and well-being of the education community has become a battlefield. so all of these issues are really terrible. kids need to be in school. we know that. we also need to keep kids and educators safe. we know what it takes to do that. but it's the polarization and it's politicizing this as opposed to trying to demilitarize the schools for this september, to make it a safe and welcoming environment you and that's what we're try to do as a union. try to call balls and strikes, try to keep people safe, but we need to get kids back to in-person learning, and to the
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socialization that they really need. i think the american rescue plan money has given us the money that i'm not right now concerned about layoffs. i am really concerned about this battlefield of -- and the virus and the delta curveball, and getting kids back to school and making sure that people are safe. >> yeah. i can tell you this -- give me a mask in school before remote learning again. say that as a parent. i'm guessing others feel the same. appreciate you coming on sharing your perspective with us. thank you. with that, we'll be right back. ll be right back. that's why i started medhaul. citi launched the impact fund to invest in both women and entrepreneurs of color like me, so i can realize my vision and give everything i've got to my company, and my community.
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june, and why is this different? >> the skepticism is well warranted and it has been more than a month since the ten senators announced that she has a deal to make a deal, and so the final negotiations took much longer and much more complicated than expected. and the senators had hashed out an agreement to hash out the issues to hanging up the negotiations for weeks now, including the questions of distribution of funds between highway money and transit money and a big one particularly for democrats demanding more money for transit as a way to combat the climate change, and a deal on broadband and $65 billion struck between suzanne collins and jeanne shaheen, and there is a deal to spend on roads, so they say that the senators from both sides they have ironed tout very issues they believe have been holding up the deal, and
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yet to finalize the text on the provisions that have not been agreed to, but they plan to vote as early as this evening, and democrats and republicans are saying that they are ready to do that. >> all right. but they are voting, and that is just in the senate, and you know, the longer this has been out there, the more that progressives and others sort of the rank and file democrats have been chipping away and flexing the angry muscles about this deal. what happens to those folks? >> this is going to be a problem once it gets to the house, chuck, for the house democrat, because a number of the democrats, and in particular, peter defazio, the chairman of the finance committee has been work on this issue for years and years is not happy with the project, and that is why the speaker is not going to make it up until the senate passing the infrastructure bill and the separate $3.5 trillion bill that factors into the priorities of the progressives, chuck. >> and with a tight and
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it is good to be with you. i'm geoff bennett and as we come on air, president biden is in pennsylvania delivering a speech about his buy american proposal. let's listen. >> people are not vaccinated. the pandemic that we have now is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. so, please, please, please, please, if you are not vaccinated, protect yourself and the children out there. it is important. and carlo, having been a significant consumer of health care myself and my

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