and the provitamin b5 formula is gentle on skin. with secret, outlast anything. no sweat. secret. all strength. no sweat. of. >> good afternoon, everyone, oim ayman mohyeldin in new york. the justice department now saying that treasury department must turn his tax returns over to the house ways and means committee. as another house committee releases handwritten notes from a conversation in which he told awe top justice official, "just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and republican congressmen." all of this as the cdc says the delta variant changed the fight against the coronavirus.

it could easily be spread by vaccinated people. president biden is meeting with nancy pelosi to talk about voting rights as congressional democrats look to restart debate on that critical issue. and as the senate officially begins bipartisan infrastructure bill this is not stopping senators from wanting to get it through the chaum better. >> we're chomping at the bit and raring to go. we want to finish the bipartisan bill and then we want to put the reconciliation instruction bill on the table. >> first group of afghans are now on american soil. we're going to speak with the former translator who already resettled in the united states. and we're going to look at the debate over what to do with the

site of a condo building near mu amy that collapsed last month killing 98 people. but we begin this hour with nbc news justice correspondent pete williams in washington. walk us through this decision by the justice department and what means going forward. >> well, what it means is that congress may finally get the tax returns it's been seeking for two years. there is a federal law that says when anyst three congressional tax writing committees ask for individual returns, even though they normally must be kept confidential, they must be turned over to the congress that asks for them providing they are kept confidential by congress. they said, no, we're not going do this. they have a legislative reason tore wanting to see the return. something related to writing new laws. of what the republicans said at the time and trump administration said is they want to poke through these and find

something to embarrass the president. so, no, we're not going to do this. and at the time in 2019, the justice departments of office of legal counsel backed up that decision saying, yes, there has to be a legitimate purpose and congress doesn't have one. now the justice department said that was wrong and the law is clear when congress asks, it shall get. now we haven't heard yet from the treasury department about how soon this might happen. the congress as you mute expect the democrats are saying this is the right thing. they've always thought the law was on their side. the question is, could the president now, the former president, try to go to court and block this? he can certainly try. he would succeed? that is a whole other matter. it's not clear that he would given what the law has said. >> starting this off with that breaking news. pete, thank you. joining us now to take a closer look at this.

joyce vance, professor at the alabama school of law. she is an msnbc legal analyst and david k. johnston, founder of dcreport.org. let's begin before we delve into a point that pete williams raise you had. the flip of the justice department revising the decision from 2019 to say that there is now awe legal purpose. it doesn't have to be simply legislative purpose in terms of why the tax returns should be handed over to this committee. is that a common practice or could a krit uk say that is because there is a leadership change or a political change and the department of justice under trump. they want to protect him. now it's different. >> i would expect that there were some criticism of this move by olc, the office of legal counsel. in reality this one is fair and

square. the language of this statute is plain. it says that the treasury department shall provide. it doesn't require any sort of awe legitimate purpose. i doesn't even rur good faith. this is a surprising decision to me frankly even when under the trump administration the tax returns were withheld. it is mandatory and not subject to interpretation. olc is correcting an error. i suppose that might open the question about whether olc will be reconsidering any other previously issued memos. most notably, the inability of doj prosecutors to prosecute a sitting president. >> whether or not it was operating in true independence factoring the trump era. of you've been covering donald trump's financial errors. how big of a deal is this move? >> well, i think it's very important first of all the principle be upheld. of the 1924 abty corruption law.

the tax returns shall be turned over. the because and means committee or the joint committee on taxes has three people stationed at the irs to look at tax returns. they do it all the time. earlier the counsel sul of legal opinion was there for many reasons that joyce mentioned but in addition to this donald trump said he was unfaurly treated by the irs because of who he was and because he was a christian. and that alone would give reasonable grounds if you accepted the argument of trump and steve mnuchin to look into his tax returns and see if there is a mistreatment and whether there is a need to reform the law. i think this is a very important decision to uphold the principle here that congress has the right

to see any tax return on request. >> so daufd, what should the committee be able to learn from these returns? you know tax returns certainly better than doichlt but as the tax returns ultimately get handed over to these committees, what are they going to reveal? >> nancy pelosi talked about this today. is there something in the returns that tells us that donald trump is beholden to some foreign power or interest that we did not see. that is the most important issue that needs to be resolved. we don't know the answer to that. secondly, donald trump's tax returns, we have very good reason to thank. they're probably fraudulent. why? well, donald this two civil income tax fraud trials. he lost both of them. new york state and new york city trials. you broke the story six years

ago now. those returns were so fraudulent that donald's own witness, his long time tax lawyer and tax accountant testified that they were forged. if donald trump would forge a tax return, then i think there is good reason to suspect there is other unlawful activity on his tax return. >> joyce, what does this mean in terms of legal trouble for donald trump? could he as pete was asking there, he could potentially challenge this and given the other decisions about his tax returns in previous courts that made it all the way up to the supreme court and certainly involving the manhattan district attorney's office, could he mount a, in your opinion, a legal successful block from this being handed over to congress? >> i guess those are two different questions. he can mount a challenge? certainly he can. will it be successful? it's unlikely here. the language of the law is so

very clear. saying shall provide. it is really important that rerestrict our understanding here. there say difference between this house and congressional oversight proceedings. and any sort of criminal proceedings. the house is required as part of the deal when they access returns of an individual to only view those documents in a setting that protects the identity of that individual. prosecutors either staut or federal have separate routes for obtaining taxes as manhattan prosecutor cy vance did. he could certainly go their oun route to obtain any necessary tax documents. >> the news, joyce, about donald trump's taxes came hours after the house oversight committee released hand wrun notes maud by the former acting attorney general richard donahue. in which he says that the

president told him just say the election was corrupt. and leave the rest to me and republican congressmen. i know that you had a chance to look at some of the notes. what else do they say? what do you make of them? what is your big take away? >> these notes really reflect -- i'm going to say, a robust conversation between the former president and top officials at doj. what stants out here is he appears to have threatened them saying that if they won't play cool, he'll replace them. he had been introduced to by one of the congressmen identified as one ofhis allies. i don't think there are any surprises here. i don't think anything that folks didn't assume was going on. it's very stark to see it reflected in official notes taken by a doj official. and beyond that, doj fights pretty fiercely on most

occasions to protect us internal work product from outside eyes. that suggests they're important and oversight functions that need to go forward here. it's a very unusual step by doj. >> yeah. i should just make sure i said it correctly. he's the deputy attorney general not the attorney general. joyce and david, thank you so much for starting us off this hour. our other breaking news at the moment startling new information about covid-19. alarming details about just how strong the delta variant is. so much so that it is causing more vaccinated people to become infected. and the white house is pressed with tough questions about the messaging. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." ing. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin report s. you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean

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new findings on breakthrough infections. three out of four people infected in a county outbreak were vaccinated. the findings further support the urgency underlying in that agency document that breakthrough cases may be as transmissible as unvaccinated cases. it goes on to call for universal masking for everyone, meanwhile in, washington, the white house is struggling to keep up with its own messaging on the evolving threat of the delta variant. joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent monica alba and public health analyst irwin redletter. doctor, let's begin with you. what is your take away from the new cdc findings? >> right. so actually this is a very fast moving situation. obviously. new data which is coming fast

and furious. it is causing a lot of confusion on how to message all the information to the public is able to stay focused and able to follow the facts. we don't know anything on that definitively. what we're learning now as just said is vaccinated as well as unvaccinated people can actually very high viral loads of this delta variant. it's really important. even if you're vaccinated, you get exposed to somebody that is infected, you could actually transmit the virus to somebody else. this is prompting this idea that that serve wearing masks indoors, vaccinated or not. what is not spoken is that even -- this is even increasing the urgency about trying to get people to get vaccinated. it's really important. i don't think that is in the cards just yet, ayman.

>> with the fact that this is fast moving as dr. redletter was saying there, you just came from the briefing. what can you tell us about how the white house reacted to this internal document from the cdc? >> well, exactly to the doctor's last point just there, they were asked whether the white house was still evaluating a federal vaccine mandate because that's something the president had said they were going to look into. they didn't know fit was possible. today, far more definitively, they're saying there will not be one. that is something that is a headline coming out of this briefing. but i can tell you that the white house right now is in a defensive posture. if we rewind, all of this is rolled out in a backwards manner. this cdc data from news organizations like "the washington post" and then nbc news which obtained it came a couple days ago and that's why obviously they changed their mask guidance. but they didn't share that information at the time.

and we haven't since then gotten kind of a covid-19 briefing. and so the white house is trying to say, of course, yesterday the president gave major speech on vaccinations. touting how safe and effective they are. but he simply did not include this latest and new information as context or the backdrop. again, the doctors says there is a lot that needs to be learned about it. that is what really stood out to us. this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. and while that might be true for severe cases, hospitalizations and deaths it is still so now and affecting the vaccinated. rules for them in terms of mask guidance is changing how transmissionible the delta variant is. so we're in a very different place. summer of freedom and joy. the overall message from the white house in this briefing just now is that they're going to continue to follow the science and the data.

they're always going to rely on their experts. that's an open question that we still don't know the answer to. and the white house will likely receive a lot more additional pressure to get that kind of information. but the absolute thing we need to underscore here, it is a very fast moving situation. that's why they made the abrupt change and reversal in mask guidance. the vaccine dozen work and what the white house wants to emphasize today they saw the highest number recorded more than half a million shots in arms. new shots, people who are either going for their first or second dose. they want that to continue. but they saw some of the highest numbers since the first of july. the question is if it that begins to plateau or back at this where again it's no the just unvaccinated but now potentially the vaccinate ated people spreading the delta variant. we head into the school season and semester, a couple weeks away now, that's another major

concern because as we know, many children aren't vaccinated yet because they're not eligible. >> yeah. very important question there. it's important to follow up on that with the white house. dr. redletter, the data out of the cdc is what led them to shift the masking requirements. based on what you've seen from the data, was it a good call or a little bit -- or is it too little too late? >> well, it's a question dhsh is a big wakeup call. and hopefully communication lesson for the white house. and not just for the white house, not just for the president and the cdc, but for experts so-called experts everywhere and myself included. don't be too definitive. there are too many changes, too many things we discovered. every message from the cdc should say this is what we know

today. i think the white house and the cdc need to really understand some strategies for messaging all. this the second thing is that -- this is a little bit of a situation this, ayman. everybody knows we really should have a vaccine mandate. the fact is that white house, the federal government is not allowed to issue a mandate like this. because these are decisions that are up the stakes and local governments but especially stakes. but even if the white house wanted to, i'm sure behind closed doors they would love to, they cannot implement a mandate. i want to make a quick point. the resisters now are in the crazy pool. the resistance to the vaccine does not make the slightest bit of sense. this is not about freedom. you're free to drive without license. you're not free to send your kids to school if they're not

vaccinated. this is a public health crisis. by all rights, we should be mandating vaccines. but it's bn so highly politicized, ayman. a. dr. redletter and monica alba. leaders met with president biden over a slim down voting rights bill. republicans are still showing no interest in supporting the legislation. congressman mondair jones us and the latist developments on infrastructure. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." ucre you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports. ♪ someone once told me, that i should get used to people staring.

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now to washington. new developments on several key issues as congress tries to wrap up important business before the august recess. house speaker nancy pelosi and leaders met with the president at the white house to discuss voting rights. congressional democrats are pushing for renewed action on that issue. they begin debate on the bipartisan infrastructure plan amid growing concerns from progressives in in the house. joining us to dive into this is co-author of "playbook." leean, exact congressional issues that democrats are hoping to do when it comes to bringing

voting rights back to the forefront. what do they want to see done and whether or not that gets any support from the white house? >> hey, ayman. so after house republicans in the senate blocked voting rights last month, they didn't have the ten republicans needed or any republicans, the senate -- democratic leadership are getting a lot of pressure at this point to bring up new revised slimmed down more tailoreded legislation. . this front is happening both in the senate and house. there was a group of house democrats elected in 2018. they call themselves the majority makers because they put democrats back in the majority. most of them sent a letter to speaker pelosi and leader schumer yesterday asking for a new vote on a slimmed down measure. something that focuses specifically on access to the polls. they argue that time is running out. they argue that they should not wait until there is some sort of

path for success that instead they should vote again. much and see where the chips may fall and put on the record who opposes this. a lot of the members who are pushing for this are facing redistricting, tough re-elections and they think that something needs to happen soon over in the senate. we could see new legislative text as easterly as next week on a slimmed down tailored piece of legislation. the question remains, will it get the support of any republicans and that is very unclear. >> eugene, we know the president wants a huge victory on this issue. what will he do to help keep the house in line not only on the bipartisan bill but also on that key reconciliation bill that they're touting? >> yeah. i mean what the courthouse continues to say to us is the president is having these meetings. he's been to the senate for 36 years. he was the vice president for eight years and the emissary between the white house and congress. he has a lot -- he knows how to twist arms. much he knows how to get folks

cares. and one of the things i'm hearing from sources, they're telling us that things that the white house officials are saying to these members of congress who may be waffling a little bit especially house progressives who are saying well, i want to make sure we have this $2.5 trillion bill set before i sign on to this bipartisan bill, what they're saying is do you really want to mess this up for all of us? that's something that i've been told white house officials have said to members of congress and their staff. saying this is an important time. what we do know is because we have 2022 that already started the midterm election sna they are running against time. there is not going to be a lot of movement of almost anything in congress. so they're running out of time to do this infrastructure bill and voting rights and police reform. they have a long docket. not a host time. >> eugene, the president said last night he favors putting

provisions on the bill. speaker pelosi came out in favor of doing so. all of this obviously is subject to the ruling of the senate parliamentarian. is there a blackup plan if the parliamentarian decides immigration or immigration provisions are not allowed in a reconciliation bill? >> right now, that's an a, b, c. putting it in it that one bill that they have left to do something that could pass without having to have ten more republicans. and you know, it feels like a million years ago. but back when they were trying to put the $15 minimum wage into the covid-19 relief bill, after the parliamentarian voted against that, they moved on. that something we saw. that is likely what is going to happen here if if the parliamentarian rules against it. what is happening now behind the scenes, you have staff trying to figure out what are the ways that you can put something in that doesn't seem to have a big effect on the economy.

by fingering out how to make it seem that way. so the parliamentarian does rule in that favor. of you have democrats outside of the white house, outside of congress that are getting frustrated that this person is unelected, this parliamentarian has so much power. a lot of people have not heard about this for a few years. and now they are -- she is the most important person a lot of the time when you do things on congress especially on this reconciliation bill. >> all right. thank you both for joining us on this. to continue the conversation, let's bring into it new york congressman mondaire jones. congressman, great to have you with us. let me just start off you about asking about the reporting from eugene there and the concern that the white house is saying to, you know, specifically perhaps members of the progressive caucus or certainly those on the progressive side in the house do not mess this up for the white house when it thl

and bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> well, i hope the white house is having the same conversations with senators who would be mess things up for all of the democrats in congress. who are deliberate majority for the purpose of delivering for the american people. i found it extraordinary for senator sinema to take issue of the reconciliation package. that folks agreed on until very recently it would appear. and so i think it's a straw man blaming or putting the blame on progressives doing nothing but unifying and voting for the american rescue plan. and we're prepared, of course, to vote for a bipartisan infrastructure package if there is a reconciliation package alongside it that will meet the moment. that is precisely what speaker pelosi has been saying this entire time. i'm so grateful to her for her leader thp in this moment as well. >> do you have any red lines for what that bipartisan infrastructure bill and the

three $3.5 trillion reconciliation package have to include to get your vote? >> yeah. you know, i'm privileged to represent both my constituents and the american people and that means i have to deliver for them. it means that simply addressing roads and bridges and highways is inadequate for the purposes of meeting the crisis that we face, meeting this moment in which we find ourselves. we have got to invest in the care economy. that means expanding med kaur to include -- medicare to include dent ago, vision, hearing and climate change and saving the plan fret climate catastrophe. i'm part of a generation that is going to inherit such a plan if we do nothing about it. of course, it means making sure that no family goes without affordable childcare in this country. these are the things that americans want. it's why they elected democrats to majorities. it's certainly why they delivered the presidency to joe

biden. >> let's switch gears and what activists called the biggest threat to american democracy, voting rights. how optimistic are you that we can see a bill that could pass the senate? activists are not optimistic they can get it done unless you're willing to depart with the filibuster? >> well, i think those activists are correct. and it's what people like myself have been saying for a long time. of course, i'm grateful to be joined and n. recent weeks by other people calling on the president of the united states to be the master of the senate. to be like lyndon b. johnson and address two of the members of his own party in the united states senate who are really roadblocks to saving our ailing democracy. we know the republican party is willing to do anything. even to the port of not certifying presidential election. hours after dying alongside me at the capitol on january 6th. that is what we're dealing with.

it's why i authored this morning calling on the president to at least call for an exception to the filibuster for the purposes of securing constitutional rights. we have reconciliation, a process that ensures we have financial security as the united states and, of course, part of the security of the united states is ensuring we have a democracy moving forward. that is what is at stake. i would submit it is even more important than infrastructure. because we see what happens when republicans have control of the federal government. we have seen it over the past four years. and none of us have been conscious want to go back to that moment. >> we're pressed for time. you know the eviction moratorium ends tomorrow. the white house said it is up to congress to extend it. where do things stand on that front? >> we are working in earnest to convince a handful of house democrats that we have to do everything we can to ensure that we house people in this country. in the midst of the worst

economic crisis since the great depression. this is an issue of our values. this is an issue of our values. and centrists and progressives and even conservative democrats understand that we have values as americans still in this country. en that means we have to ensure that can live in dignity. congress appropriated funds for purposes of rental assistance. some states like new york have been delaying that process of dispersement. so landlords are going to get their moneyst but in the mean time we have to make sure that no one goes on the street because they cannot afford to pay rent or mortgage. that is what democrats were elected to do. that's why people like myself are still here in congress today waiting for that vote. >> all right. congressman mondaire jones, thank you for your time. i greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and president biden calls it a milestone. the first group of afghan interpreters arrived in the united states. coming up, we're going to talk to a former afghan translator

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dang, that's too much for 15 seconds. after 20 years, we're only one month away from a full withdrawal of troops from afghanistan. the u.n. and main afghan compound was tacked by officials say are anti-government elements. they used grenades and gunfire killing at least one afghan guard. meanwhile, the first wave of evacuated afghan interpreters reached virginia today, fleeing the taliban as a rapidly gains ground and targeted american allies. about 200 interpreters and their families flew from kabul to the u.s. then boarded buss to begin their temporary stay at ft. lee. joining me now is a former interpreter in afghanistan. a special immigrant visa ambassador with no one left behind. great to have you with us. i know you came to the u.s. after four years after a

linguist on the ground in afghanistan. this morning 200 interpreters arrived in ft. lee, virginia. . what are they feeling right now having gone through the experience yourself and what do you want to say to them? >> first of all, thank you for having me. i want to welcome them home. that's my first thing. and i know how they feel. i have been through a lochlt when i got my visa, you know, i got it in one year. and nobody was as lucky as i was. and so there are no lives left behind here and lick them. >> what was your experience in if the united states? what support systems are needed to resettle? you're dealing with cultural challenges. you're dealing with an entirely different new society and new system. what do you think some of the biggest challenges you faced that other interpreters and their families will face? >> well, first of all, you know,

the high expectation and then the culture shock environment, you know, how you was blessed in the environment and transportation system is different here. and many more. however, if you get out your comfort zone and work, you know, make connections, network and these will be kind of easier for you. what i would suggest for these new evacuees and interpreters here to get out of their comfort zone and make connections. when you was here, i didn't know any afghans. right now, there are thousands of afghans living here in the states and each city and each state they can find a lot of afghans where they can help reach out and there is also an agency there to help them in finding, you know, the jobs and environment, you know, that's what the environment is and transportation system. they show them all this. >> there are as you probably

aware 2,300 people still with special immigrant visa qualifications that are still behind in afghanistan. do you believe enough is being done to bring them here and also what is life like for them there? and how concerned are you about their fate? should they be -- is that blown out of proportion or should they be brought here to the united states immediately? >> they should be brought immediately. you know, the threat and violence in both the u.s. allies afghanistan are already properly documented. 300 interpreters have been killed. that number increased dramatically and drastically. i think we haven't done enough as americans. we haven't done what we should have done. we need them back here because we promised them as an american we need to keep our promise and

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this week 54-year-old was the last victim of the surfside condo collapse. she moved to florida seven years ago finding success in the jewelry jewelry business. now new questions over what will happen with the now cleared site as a complex legal battle gets under way. survivors want funds to rebuild. families call for a memorial to honor the 98 lives lost. you spoke with some of the families. what are they telling you about what they want next? >> reporter: ayman, you said it, it is a very complex legal battle going on and one that could pit those who survived the condo collapse against the families who lost loved ones. a judge here has approved the

sale of this oceanfront property. it's worth more than $100 million. it will be sold and probably soon because people who survived this collapse according to the judge they need funds to try and rebuild their lives and this building was whoafully under insured. the question now seems to be not if it will sell but who will buy it and what they will turn that property into. we spoke to three different people. they lost a total of four people in the collapse. there was nikki and luis marries less than six months. they were cousins. their family members are pleading with people, with anyone, to make this property site a permanent public

memorial. listen to what they told us. do you feel this memorial could help you heal just a little bit? >> yes. i don't think it will help me heal but will allow me to go there and remember them and honor them. i have to drive past and just see another tower, it's going to be so painful for all of us. >> i know they need to sell the land but also it can be combined with their respect. >> reporter: the families we spoke to know the property has to be sold. they're not against that. they are hoping someone, the federal government, state, local or some combination therein will buy the property and make it a public permanent material. it has over 3,000 signatures. ayman? >> ellison barber live for us,

thank you. as families continue to grapple with the loss of loved ones they still face a challenging road ahead including complicated court battles. one person is miami-dade rabbi. tell us how the families are doing. >> the families the first three weeks, panic, stress, crying, are they going to find them alive and bring back the family members. all families were able to bury their loved ones. now reality sets in and that's very difficult for them. they were more focusing on the moment of getting them back but now they realize setting in they lost a loved one, husband, wife,

parent or children. they're all telling me they're having a very difficult time. >> and speaking of what you saw from our reporter there on the ground, the challenges that lie ahead about what should happen to the site. others want it sold so they can use that money to try and rebuild their lives. what do you want to see happen to that site? >> it's a very personal thing. it's something each family may feel very different. although the house fell down, the home they built, the life they lived, and what was important to them, that will always remain. you can remember them and keep their soul alive by continuing to do the things that were important to them in our tradition we believe that keeps their soul in existence for you.

one of the things that was important to them. this is something the families are grappling with. the last time they have a connection to them or impact. >> very important words. always a pleasure, sir. thank you for your time and insights. that wrams up the hour and the week for me but before we go, for msnbc's 25th anniversary i wrote a piece. you can check out that piece on msnbc.com/thenext25. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace starts right after this quick break. colle wat after this quick break shida andr spending is trending. just ask fifth class this week rashida... rashida: dan, no pain, no gain. okay? dan: yeah i know, it's just...hello? claire, what? fire? ...or always road tripping on empty dan... rashida: i told you this would happen. dan: the light was not even on. no, it was on. dan: what?

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hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. on december 27, 2020, just 11 days before his supporters would storm the u.s. capitol with the stated goal of hanging mike pence and disrupting the certification of joe biden's win, donald trump engaged in an insurrection of his own calling the acting attorney general of the united states and directing him to declare the election corrupt and then, quote, leave the rest to me. "the new york times" reporting on brand-new notes from top doj officials now in the hands of congressional investigators. detailed for the very first time what reads like a premeditat

plan for a conspiracy and who would aid his coup attempt. the exchange unfolded during a phone call on december 27th in which trump pressed the acting attorney general at the time, jeffrey rosen, and his deputy, richard donahue, on voter fraud claims the department had disproved. donahue warned the department had no power to change the outcome of the election. trump replied he did not expect that. quote, just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and to congressional allies. trump did not name the lawmakers but at other points during the call mentioned representative jim jordan of ohio whom he described as a fighter, scott perry of pennsylvania, who at the time promoted the idea the election was stolen from trump, and senator ron johnson