amongst many of the staff as well. >> we were told to not share practically everything we witnessed there. we were told to not be on social media, to limit our conversations about the site with close friends and family, and to definitely not talk to the media. >> now health and human services, which runs those facilities for unaccompanied migrant children, did report in a statement responding to these allegations that they take any allegations of wrongdoing seriously and swiftly report them to the authorities. now we are seeing more and more of these complaints come out of those over crowded facilities. there are some people calling for a broader investigation into what is going on there and specifically to the contractors who were hired to run the facilities. >> it is an extraordinary story according to the whistle blowers. thank you so much julia for

that. and welcome everyone to "alex witt reports" developing this hour the biden administration ramping up its coronavirus response as it works to contain the delta variant. today the national institute of health director dr. francis collins making clear why the cdc issued new mask guidance as health officials seek to reassure vaccinated americans and encourage more unvaccinated people to get the shot. >> it's mostly about protecting the unvaccinated. that is where the real serious risks of illness are. if you are vaccinated right now your likelihood of getting severely sick is 25 fold reduced. the vaccines work extremely well. but the new news and much of this comes from the outbreak in barnstable county, massachusetts, is that vaccinated people are capable of getting the virus in their nose

and throat and they do seem to have high enough levels of virus that they might be contagious. >> meanwhile, infrastructure taking center stage on capitol hill this weekend. the senate in session today as it works to finish up text for a bipartisan bill. last hour senate majority leader chuck schumer said that text will be done being written, quote, imminently. as the bill gets closer to the finish line some progressive democrats are drawing a hard line saying they won't vote for a bipartisan bill unless a larger reconciliation bill is passed along with it. moderate democrat joe manchin today on where he stands on the spending bill which would need his support to pass. >> i can't really guarantee anybody, you know, and i have not guaranteed anybody on any pieces of legislation. we would like to do more yet. you can do what you can pay for. this is paid for. our infrastructure bill is all paid for. we don't have a debt or going to incur more debt in it. on the other as far as reconciliation goes it should be

looked at the same. millions of americans are now at risk of being removed from their homes after the federal eviction moratorium expired overnight. some progressive lawmakers led by congresswoman cory bush have been protesting on the capitol steps demanding the house come back into session to extend it. earlier today congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez expressing frustration that house democrats weren't able to take action. >> there was frankly a handful of conservative democrats in the house that threatened to get on planes rather than hold this vote and we have to really just call a spade a spade. we cannot in good faith blame the republican party when house democrats have the majority. we cannot kick people out of their homes when our end of the bargain has not been fulfilled. on the covid watch this hour nbc's josh lederman at the white house, vaughn hill erdogan in in -- vaughn hillyard. what are we hearing from the

white house today about the search in cases? >> there is no question, alex, the vaccination push in the united states has lost steam. we are still short of that 70% goal that the president hoped america would reach by the 4th of july. a hundred million americans according to dr. fauci who are eligible for the vaccine and have not gotten vaccinated. that is why we are seeing the biden white house trying to revive the push to get as many people vaccinated as possible through the new incentives, through requirements for federal workers to either get vaccinated or undergo strict testing as well as try to limit the spread of the delta variant by re-imposing these mask recommendations to try to prevent healthy people who might have already been vaccinated contract the covid virus through a breakthrough case from passing it on to other people who are unvaccinated and could face even more serious case of the covid-19 virus. however, we are also hearing from dr. fauci that the types of

lockdowns we saw last year are not in the cards. take a listen. >> i don't think we'll see lockdowns. i think we have enough of the percentage of people in the country, not enough to crush the outbreak but i believe enough to not allow us to get into the situation we were in last winter. but things are going to get worse. >> reporter: president biden also signaling things are likely to get worse and the restrictions or guidelines may get stepped up before america is able to loosen those again. but at the same time, alex, the white house is facing increasing resistance from republicans across the country including lawmakers in congress who have used the fact that the guidance has changed from the cdc about vaccinated people no longer needing to wear masks now being asked to wear masks indoors and high risk areas again to say that basically the cdc is winging it and shouldn't be listened to while republican governors across the state are saying they are not going to go

along with mask mandates. >> okay. josh lederman, thanks for being out in the rain and to your crew, too. you guys ought to go indoors or hope the rain stops. thank you, josh. let's go to nbc's vaughn hillyard in a much sunnier jacksonville, florida i am presuming. vaughn, florida is the new epicenter for the virus. what are you hearing about that and what is being done to curb the surge? >> reporter: a good question, alex. in large part, masks aren't necessarily the answer here in the state of florida where the governor has barred these localities from implementing these mask mandates. i can tell you consequentially florida here this weekend has seen its largest number of new cases to date. ever since the beginning of the pandemic. the most number of new cases in florida to date this weekend. you are seeing hospitalizations.

here in jacksonville. here in orlando. and other cities. surpass that of any other of the three other waves during this pandemic. 40% of the united states are still made up of adults that are not fully vaccinated. that number is 40%. you are talking about community spread here. among the unvaccinated that has led to covid units. in baton rouge, louisiana they are expanding. today, literally building out their covid units. in neighboring alabama you have more than 1200 individuals that are currently in icu. 1200 individuals currently in icu in alabama because of covid here. these are harsh realities that this country is now having to grapple with. there's one little bit of encouraging news here and that is the extent to which we have seen over the course of july there has been an increase in the number of unvaccinated individuals going to get those initial shots here. in these last three weeks the number of daily individuals being vaccinated has in some

places doubled. you know, take a look at alabama for instance. it jumped over the three weeks on average by 160% increase. you have the state of missouri. that number is 120% increase. here in florida it is a 76% increase. over in texas where gary is right now and i think will be able to offer a lot better perspective on what that state is going through they've seen a 66% jump here. at the same time the shots in arms aren't saving folks that are getting infected here today and they aren't saving the folks who are hospitalized here in florida and across the country. >> thank you for the wrap up from florida. we are going to get to austin in a little bit. first let's bring in our guest, research scholar, msnbc contributor, and public health analyst. doctor, good to have you here. where do vaccinated people stand in all of this? we know percentages of breakthrough cases are incredibly low but how concerned should vaccinated people be

about this? >> well, it is an interesting question, alex. the reality is that we are just getting data over the last couple weeks to suggest that even vaccinated people could have very high loads of the virus in their nose, throat, and so on. it probably means that they may be more likely to be contagious and to be able to spread the virus to other people. on the other hand, if you are vaccinated you have an extraordinarily good protection from getting sick with sars co-v 2 the covid-19 virus. very unlikely you'll need to go to a hospital, be put on a ventilator, or die from the disease. so the protection offered to vaccinated people is extraordinary. almost miraculous i'd say. but how transmissible can you be is important because that means that if you're vaccinated and

protected you still might be able to transmit the virus to other vulnerable people. older people. people with immune compromise and so on. and children who are not eligible for getting the vaccine yet. so it's really important not just that you, personally, are vaccinated but everyone you know who has not yet gotten the shots need to, alex. >> so when it comes to the unvaccinated, give me a perspective on how dangerous this really is for them to get sick. i mean, when i think back to the overwhelming tragedy that we suffered through communally, hundreds, thousands of people dying, right? we're not seeing those numbers. but are we seeing deaths among those that are contracting this delta variant, those that are unvaccinated? i mean, how bad could that get? >> well, it could get really bad. people who are unvaccinated are really at risk of being hospitalized and put on the ventilator and dying and the other thing, too, of course, is

that people who are getting sick who are unvaccinated are tending to be younger and younger people. that is something of very serious concern. let me put it this way. we got two patients, one vaccinated in front of a doctor. let's say two patients, one vaccinated one unvaccinated. the message to each of those is very different. to the vaccinated person we are saying you are probably going to be okay but you may be carrying so you might want to get a test and make sure your a he not around people who are unvaccinated and have special risk categories. the other person unvaccinated we are saying not only are you a risk to others you are at your own personal risk of dying. it is a much stronger, much more important message to the unvaccinated. >> okay. so let's get to the new cdc recommendations for mask wearing. it has certainly led to some confusion among vaccinated people who feel they should no longer have to wear masks. let's listen to what the nih director francis collin said

today. >> if you're talking about a small party like i might have at my house for six or eight people all fully vaccinated i do not believe we need to put masks on to be next to each other but if there were a hundred people and of course how are you really going to be sure about people's vaccination status and maybe there are some immuno compromised people who though they are vaccinated are not fully protected then the dynamic changes a little bit. >> narrator: the latter scenario does this mean everyone now needs to wear a mask in a larger public space if not for yourself but for everybody else around you and potentially your loved ones? >> yeah. but the question, what do we mean by larger? what about walking into a restaurant, grocery store, etcetera? the overall guidelines from the cdc are correct. if you're going indoors whether

vaccinated or not, wear a mask. the other question that comes up is what about the mandate possibility? the federal government can't mandate. the states probably can. in the meantime my perspective is that every single business, every event, every organization, every school should say that if you're eligible for vaccine you must get it. otherwise you can't come in. no vax no entry is the thing i've been proposing. although the federal government won't mandate every individual organization can and should. >> we've been seeing that in increasing number. big, large corporations, the entire uc system academically. you've seen it all over the country like a domino effect. they are indeed doing that. what about the delta variant specifically? it was identified in india back in december. it swept through britain. now there are medical experts somewhat confused about the trend in covid cases plummeting in the uk instead of soaring. it is important to note though

that more than 70% of uk adults are fully vaccinated. compare that to not even almost at least 50% here in the u.s. what is the best explanation for what is happening in britain and what would it take to see that trend here in the u.s.? >> so the answer is we don't know. in the scientific community and in the agencies we need a lot more humility and i think people are getting confused and the cdc needs to be particularly careful about telling the public that in may, yeah. we thought that vaccinated people could be going maskless. we have new data. the delta variant is way, way more transmissible than the other forms. and that is why the information and the guidelines have changed. what to -- how to explain what is happening in the uk and u.s. we don't know and we don't know where any of the other greek

alphabet designations clearly coming down the pike, where are we going? and it is really hard to say and we need to state that. >> it is a buckle up scenario because we don't please be what's coming yet. thank you so much. always good to see you. so a phrase that pays the big lie becoming a megamoney maker for the former president and what it means for democrats, next. d me, that i should get used to people staring. so i did. it's okay, you can stare. when you're a two-time gold medalist, it comes with the territory. ♪ ♪ know this about the jungle, everything that you see wants to kill you and can. ♪ ♪

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infrastructure week has turned into infrastructure weekend as the senate is back in session today ironing out the final details of the $1 trillion bipartisan plan. nbc's leann caldwell is on capitol hill with the very latest for us. i guess the first question is when can we expect to see the finished product? >> that is the million dollar question, alex. actually the $1 trillion question as we're waiting for this legislative text to be released. it is something we've been told for the past two days is coming

extremely soon. well, senate majority leader chuck schumer just went to the senate floor moments ago and said that the bill text will be done imminently. my sources are saying that it does actually seem like they are extremely close to releasing this. we do know the major framework of what is in this legislation hundreds of billions of dollars for roads and bridges and broad band and ports, railways, etcetera. but there is still a big discussion on what happens after this bipartisan infrastructure bill is completed and then they are -- democrats are insisting they move to what is -- they are saying is equally important which is the $3.5 trillion human infrastructure piece of legislation, something that progressives want assurances on that they move side by side in order for them to both of these pieces of legislation to pass congress. let's listen to what one

progressive representative alexandria ocasio-cortez and a key moderate democrat senator joe manchin said on cnn this morning. >> i just believe that every bill should go up on its own merits. >> this is a deal and we have a tight margin in the senate. i respect we have to get senator sinema and manchin's vote on reconciliation. they should also respect that there is a very tight house margin and that we have to be able to uphold our end of the bargain as well and the house progressives are also part of that majority. >> reporter: so on the senate floor when leader schumer talked about receiving bill text very soon he also said in the very next breath that once the bipartisan bill is passed later this week he predicts that he will take up the budget reconciliation process immediately, fulfilling that promise to progressives, alex. >> okay. leann caldwell on capitol hill, thank you so much. joining me mow california

congressman ted lu, always good to welcome you. let's get into this. let's start with the trump revelation, the latest one, and get your reaction to that. the house oversight committee releasing notes from a trump phone call in which he pressed top justice department officials to declare the election that he lost and say instead it was, quote, corrupt, and to, quote, leave the rest to him and republican allies. then there was a statement that trump put out in which he says these documents are being, quote, dishonestly described as attempting to overturn the election and he goes on to say the documents were, quote, meant to uphold the integrity and honesty of elections. what is your interpretation of those comments and the whole big picture? >> thank you, alex, for your question. the former president used his official authority to try to interfere with the election results. under the law, if any federal employee did that, that is illegal. we're now going to look into whether that law applies to the

office of the president and the former president. it turns out that the former president engaged in a lot of immoral, unpatriotic, unamerican behavior whether they violate a law is a gray area in many cases because no one thought of writing laws to prohibit this outlandish behavior from the president until now. >> you make a very good point. so the bottom line, legally speaking, we don't know yet if congress can do anything with this information? >> well, congress can certainly highlight the issue and we can certainly fix the law if in fact a law doesn't apply to the former president. whether or not he should be prosecuted if he did something illegal, that is going to be an issue the department of justice would have to decide. >> okay. let's talk about what congress can do with these documents over all. is there anything you talk about influence, i mean, how much could congress put this out there? what kind of a rabble might

there be in congress trying to go over these documents and at least publicize them? for political reasons? >> one thing we need to do, and it is not even for political reasons but to make our democracy better is what happened after watergate. congress came together and passed a series of reforms to say, hey, what president nixon did was not only immoral and unpatriotic and unamerican it was so bad we need to make it illegal. that is what we need to do in congress. we need to pass a series of laws that would make sure no future president can do what the former president did and get away with it. >> how about the other one the doj telling the treasury department that it must turn over trump's taxes to the house ways and means committee? how big a deal is this for congress and its investigative efforts? what can trump's tax returns tell congress that is still of consequence today? >> i am very pleased that the

department of justice simply read the law. it's black and white. and the law says that the u.s. congress gets to have the tax return. i am pleased they're going to enforce it so congress will get the tax returns of the former president and the house ways and means committee will review that. i look forward to seeing what they say about what the tax returns show of the former president. >> the next 72 hours could be pretty interesting because trump and his lawyers have until wednesday to respond to the doj order. do you expect a legal challenge from team trump? mostly analysts have said on this broadcast and elsewhere that trump would not win even if he does this. ultimately, how long do you think it might take until lawmakers actually get their hands on trump's tax returns? >> the former president has filed numerous frivolous lawsuits during his career whether in the private sector/public sector. i fully expect him to file another frivolous lawsuit but he is not going to win and we will get his tax return.

>> do you think it might be a while? >> it might be a while but not a huge amount of time because we have the doj not controlled by the former bill barr. i do want to note you bring up a very good point. we do have to change the law and expedite litigation that is consequential to our democracy such as litigation against the president. and so i am going to be introducing a bill that says for any issues related where the president has a financial interest or is related to a sexual assault or sexual harassment issue then that kind of case needs to be expedited by our courts. >> okay. this could not be retroactive or could it be in your mind that which you would be introducing? >> it would not be. >> okay. can i ask what you hope to learn from trump's taxes? >> there are many things we could learn. we could see if there is any evidence of any sort of foreign influence. we could see actually how much he makes because he has

repeatedly according to public media reports exaggerated how much he actually has made or has in his assets and so on. we could see if he could have been leveraged by any entities whether domestic or international. there is a lot we can learn from his tax returns. >> okay. in terms of money that we do have confirmed according to "the washington post," donald trump has more than $100 million right now in political cash this just after the first six months of this year. what does this say to you that the former president remains the republican party's most dominant fundraiser while persistently and falsely claiming that the election was stolen from him? i mean, aside from his obvious lies, should this concern democrats the amount of money these lies continue to attract? >> the base of the republican party has moved so far right that it is now unrecognizable to many people including many former republicans who are now never trumpers.

you see this base that not only believes in the big lie. they also downplay the insurrection. they're opposed to middle class tax cuts to families with children. this is a very radical republican base and it doesn't surprise me they'll give money to the former president who had all sorts of crazy and insane ideas. >> so it is optimistic it is going to hear testimony from former trump officials on the 1/6 panel because the doj said it will not block any of them from testifying. who do you think should be subpoenaed? who do you think is most important to hear from and what do you think the chances are it happens? >> i thought the january 6 select committee did a great job highlighting their assault on police officers by supporters of the former president. when i was a house impeachment manager something we could never quite figure out is why did it take the former president so long to order in the national guard after everyone was watching on tv including him the assault on our capitol?

so i think they should ask that question and try to figure out, what witnesses knew about what the former president was saying, what he was thinking in his mind. only a certain number of people he talked to during those critical hours such as his chief of staff, as well as kevin mccarthy and jim jordan is also -- does also appear to have said he talked to the former president that day as well. >> so very quickly you would not be opposed to subpoenaing republican lawmakers, any lawmakers? but they would only be republicans, with whom the president spoke that day? that would be unprecedented. >> i think the committee should follow the facts wherever it leads them. of course that decision will be up to the committee. but i don't think there would be any principal objection to it from the democratic caucus. >> always good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. we heard from the administration today about the eviction moratorium and what the white house can do about it. we also heard from alexandria ocasio-cortez about what the

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new word today from the white house national economic council director on the clear cause of rising prices for goods and services here in the u.s. >> certainly the price increases that we've seen over the last couple of months are real. we've seen them in areas like cars and hotel prices, airlines, food. but they share one thing in common which is they are all connected to the pandemic and the kinds of supply chain, bottleneck issues we have when we wake up an economy that was dormant. we and almost every independent forecaster look forward and see those will dissipate as this economic recovery advances. >> now let's bring in "the washington post" economic correspondent heather long. big welcome to you. so any sense of when this

inflationary pressure might slow down and in your mind is it all pandemic related? >> i thought that was a really interesting comment. it is not all pandemic related. what really has, my focus has been watching rent prices go up and also restaurant prices. these are things that are unlikely to just roll off in september or by december if we can get more used cars produced and other supply chain issues worked out. i think what's really noticeable to me is the deadline, the date you mentioned for when this is supposed to cool off. when are these prices supposed to come down? the goal post keeps getting moved out. at first it was sort of it'll be better by the summer. then it'll be better by september. then it'll be better by the end of the year. on friday we saw some top federal reserve officials come out and say they think it'll be a little bit better by next year but it will still be higher than what we want. so these warning signs that this is going to stick around longer

than anyone would like. >> you know, as you were describing that, these warning signs and sticking around i thought, there is a relative nature to the pandemic and how covid is sticking around longer than we like so there may be to some degree pandemic intersection here. >> there definitely is in the sense that one of the big triefrs of what's going on is the supply chain hiccups. we literally can't get enough, whether used cars or washing machines, bicycles, you name it, from other parts of the world on ships to the united states or even from the u.s. factories and getting them on trucks and trains to different parts of the united states. that is certainly a key component of what is driving up prices right now on goods. what is really likely to stick around beyond a few more months is the price increases we're seeing at restaurants and entertainment venues and other

service sector. it's just starting to bounce back up. >> let's turn to the eviction moratorium that expired at midnight. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez said this. >> now there is something to be said for the fact this court order came down on the white house a month ago and the white house waited until the day before the house adjourned to release a statement asking congress to extend the moratorium. i sit on the committee which has jurisdiction over housing. we had the housing secretary there asking about the administration's stance. we asked the biden administration about their stance. they were not being really forth right about that advocacy and request until the day before the house adjourned. >> to her point could anything have prevented this? how many people might be actually kicked out of their homes now? >> this is very real. we talk about 6 million people or more families are behind on

rent right now and the important number is over 300,000 families the eviction process has already started in the sense that the court papers have been filed as soon as this eviction has now lusted those are going to move very quickly. we expect possibly 3 million evictions in the coming months to happen. obviously everybody knew this was coming. it was not a surprise. in my mind the biggest tragedy you can see congress trying to blame the white house and the white house trying to blame congress. the biggest fault here is we had so much aid, almost $50 billion that was approved some of it in december some of it in march and less than 5% of that money has gotten out so far. only about $1.5 billion got out to actual landlords and the renters who need it. both parties are waiting for this money. and that is the real fault here. why didn't that money get out? >> i a hundred percent agree.

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an intense struggle for the bar and restaurant industry is under way right now. among the problems, businesses

are in debt, many had to close, and they don't have enough workers. my next guest has a few ideas how to change the last item and wrote an op-ed called "to bring back workers, restaurants should rediscover capitalism." joining me now is the co-owner of medium rare restaurants and founder of feed the 'fridge in the washington, d.c. area. did i say your last name correctly? >> you know what? i will take that ten times out of ten. we'll go with it. alex, good to be with you. >> thank you. glad you're here. so you say that there isn't a staffing crisis there is a wage crisis. can you explain that? >> alex, it is great to be with you again. thank you. look, if i went to you and said hey alex if you invest a million dollars with me and in three years there is a greater than 50% chance it is going to be worth zero would you make that bet? >> no.

i mean, no. >> right. that is the restaurant business on a good day. and i'm in the restaurant business. i own restaurants in washington, d.c. and the models never worked. the independent restaurant models never worked. i think the independent restaurant model needs to change and we need to use covid as a reason to force change. >> how? >> this business relies on the backs of our workers. our employees and staff. >> a hundred percent it does. >> we need to raise wages because they have choices now. during the pandemic, companies like amazon and the third party delivery apps and gig economy has exploded. and if i had a decision to make whether i'll be a dish washer in a hot, dangerous kitchen or i'm going to get to go sort packages in air conditioning and get benefits for the same or better money? i'm going to take that job. you got to compete. it's supply and demand. you have to reinvent what you do and offer better wages, offer a

path toward management. you have to offer paths toward success and learning and advancement. that is what it is going to take and that is what i do. my kitchen managers in one of my locations started as a dish washer 12 years ago. you have to do that or you're not going to survive. >> but small restaurant owners. what do you say to those who are really struggling? how do they feesably pay workers 15 bucks an hour? wouldn't that owner say i can only afford fewer workers and that will make it harder on everyone working here? >> you know, i then question if the business works or not. if your business isn't working don't operate it. you got to make your business and your concept work. if you have a sales problem you take it in stride and close your business. if you want to keep people and keep them employed you have to pay to get people. so for example 9 out of 0 restaurant owners i know, 9 out of 10, if a dish washer walks in for an interview one is $10 an hour and one is $12 an hour

they'll all hire the $10 a person. i pay 15 because i'm not going to lose dishes or silverware in the trash, not have broken glass wear, and the person will show up every day and work really hard. that is the difference in success in the independent business world. >> it sounds like you're weighing out your options like a balance scale you're trying to figure out. here is a complaint i want to go over with you. it's been on social media. restaurant workers don't want to work because the public can be mean. here is what a restaurant owner in maine said about this. >> the people that are being rude are being really, really rude. when you're going out to a restaurant and the host is seating you saying, hey, we are way backed up, short staffed, out of some stuff, it's going to be a little bit longer wait if you're on a sort of time constraint come visit us another time. and then these people are like oh, no it'll be fine but then complain when it happens. >> what is your response to that? can you understand why workers just don't want to put up with nastiness? >> alex, restaurant workers are

front line workers. they've been front line through the pandemic and are currently front line workers today. look, some are scared to come back to work. in d.c. there is now an indoor mask mandate again, back where we were. it is hard. and when you go out to celebrate a goo occasion or din oirt with your family you don't want bad service. it is a really hard time. be respectful. be generous. be patient. go out to eat as often as you can because our neighborhoods depend on these local restaurants to be around. >> amen to that. mark, say your last name so i don't blow it next time i see you on tv. >> bucher. >> that's just as nice. but different >> i like it better. taking it from here on out. >> okay. sam signing off here. thank you very much. good to see you. trump's next move some alarming clues from his former chief of staff. a message he sent to an audience that is likely very receptive

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mason. great to get into this with you, jeff. what do you think this war chest will be used for? >> for starters, alex i think he will use it to deploy his influence in the 2022 midterm election. andates candidates the former president has endorsed that will be the first step no. doubt they are also thinking and said they are thinking about his own next steps in terms of running for president again in 2024. so that money is going to be both a kind of a show force for the mid terms, but also potentially for the next presidential cycle. >> is that money earmarked specifically and exclusively for the kinds of things you just mentioned? or could the former president use that money for personal expenses, things that crop up? i mean, does it have to go to political causes? >> it's a good question.

i believe the answer to that is yes, because it was brought in by the super pacs that are raising money in his name. i don't think that's the kind of money that could go to personal expenses. >> legal, or whatever it could be. >> i imagine they will be watching that closely. yeah, exactly. >> things he owes we have former chief of staff talking about trump's plans for the future. listen to this. >> we met with some of our cabinet members tonight. we had a follow-up meeting with some of our cabinet members. as we were looking at that. we are looking at what does come next. i am not authorized to speak on behalf of the president. >> okay. >> but i can tell you this, steve, we wouldn't be meeting if we weren't making plans in a real way with president trump at the head of that ticket. >> let's get into this. what do you make of this? >> the first thing that stands

out to me is hess use of the word, twice, of the word cabinet. >> uh-huh. >> that suggestion sort of plays on the idea that some of his former supporters believe that he might be reinstated this month in august, which of course is false. >> yeah. not happening. >> and that he's some kind of a shadow president, which he's not. a, i thought that was interesting. b, the fact that they are meeting whether he calls it a cabinet or a group of advisers means moo the president and they are thinking aboutt his next steps. it has been only six months that president biden has been in office. the former president has plenty of time to make a decision whether he wants to run again that said he also at some point will need to signal, very clearly, to others in the republican field who want to run whether he is going to be in or not. what mark said seems to indicate that he's moving in that direction. >> let me focus the audience, right, the people to whom this

was said. there is first of all the timing of meadows's statement, august. qanon fringe groups tweeting he would be reinstated this month. not happening. >> no. >> on news max, he repeated the statements. it is the audience that could get worked up by these so-called cabinet meetings and will be the react. >> absolutely. there is no accident where he appeared or in what he said that audience you are exactly right alex is the audience that makes of former president trump's base. and they want to keep them interested and engaged. and that's exactly what mark is doing in that interview on behalf of his former boss. >> you know, jeff, president trump and his businesses are at the dead center of several investigations. do you think democrats first of all are going to try to use these probes to stop him from even considering a run? do you think there is a snowball's chance in you know

where that republicans might go, it is just too much, there is too much to overcome with donald trump, and we are going to try to pivot and support more legitimate republicans, non-trumpians, if you will, who really adhere to the party's core base -- core base. core ideology, shall we say at least from five years ago? >> from five years ago is right. to answer your first question, i think democrats would like to. and i think democrats have put hope in the fact that -- political hope anyway in the fact that these investigations are going on. i would point out to that that all the investigations that we've seen over the years, be they political, impeachment related, now business related so far at least, have never really stuck against donald trump. >> uh-huh. >> democrats have to keep that in mind as well. as far as your second question, alex, it just goes to -- you go back to the fact that the republican party is very divided. surely, there will be some. the liz cheney wing of the

republican party, who will try to fall behind another candidate and try to get people in their party to do the same. but if president trump's base is so strong and that circles back to what we were talking about earlier -- look at the money that he has brought in. >> yeah. >>. >> other than governor de santis, who is a trump accolite, but doing pretty well this the early presidential primary polls -- i don't know how else president trump would be able to push out anyone else in the field. >> okay. we will have a lot more conversation together, thank you, jeff mason, not today, but again soon. congresswoman jay pal joins us after the break.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ a very good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york, welcome, every, to alec wit reports. breaking news the tell you about. it is relative to iran and an attack on an israeli linked oil tanker. let's go to jeff ledman at the white house. what do you know about this? >> israel had already accused iran of being behind the attack using drones on an oil tanker that was managed by an israeli company. they said they believed that was the reason behind that attack which actually killed two people aboard that vessel. now, we have both the