that wraps up the hour for me, everybody. i will be back here next saturday and sunday, 3:00 p.m. eastern. i will turn it over right now to reverend al sharpton and "politics nation." good evening, and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, the past is not dead. right now i find myself feeling dislocated because part of me truly cannot believe that we are still fighting so many of the same battles for true democracy that rocked our country 60 years ago, and, in many cases, have been with us from the very beginning. but as congress races to its august recess, top democrats are trying to push federal voter

protection legislation that would preserve the unfettered ballot access many of us believe we had won forever in the 1960s but is now being threatened by a nationwide campaign by gop lawmakers to restrict the vote at the state level. to that end, those democrats met with president biden this weekend following dozens of activists who pulled the president's ear on this issue over the last month, myself included, as president of the national action network. shortly, i will be joined by martin luther king iii, and his wife, andrea, to discuss our meetings this week with democratic and republican leaders ahead of this month's big national voting rights march on washington. meanwhile, kong republicans maintain their wall of

resistance, counting on voter restriction and gerrymandering to retake the house in 2022, and continuing to attack the select committee on the insurrection, which is carrying out an investigation into the catalyst for all these latest suppression efforts. the big lie, perpetrated by former president donald trump. i will talk to pennsylvania senator bob casey in just a moment about a stalled gop push to audit the 2020 results in his state. but first, joining me now, they need no introductions, martin luther king iii and his wife andrea. mr. and mrs. king, we are honored as always that you are joining us here in the fight. as i mentioned there at the top, the three of us had an intense stretch on capitol hill this week, meeting with house speaker

nancy pelosi and senators joe manchin and lindsey graham and many others to discuss the desperate need for federal voter protection legislation. i wonder if if you might share your impressions of those meetings. did you come away feeling like the points that you heard that we made in politics may keep them from being acted upon whereupon republican audiences were concerned with this? let me go first to you, martin. your impressions as we laid out the gravity of the problem, the existential threat to voting, and how some of them seemed more concerned with how their constituents would respond than what we need to do to protect the voting rights in this country. >> rev, i, like you and like

andrea also, feel like the meetings were positive. but the word "may" sticks out in my mind. you said something. maybe. may happen. i won't say that i don't feel hopeful. i feel engaged. i feel maybe like my father and others felt in 1965, that we have an uphill battle. it does not mean we won't get some level of victory, but i'm not clear today that we definitely will have a victory, which means we have to really engage even more so by turning out on august 28th in the flagship cities and the sister cities and the activations that are going on around this country. we have to let these senators know this is serious business of our democracy. >> when we lock at this and we really think about the engagement, because we met with many on the hill, andrea, you

are not just martin's life, andio landa's mother. you head the drum major institute, one of the groups like national action network and others that have called this march, march on, and sciu. how optimistic are you about legislative breakthrough? because when we got down to the nitty-gritty with manchin and saying maybe you could go along with the john lewis bill -- they had questions about senate bill 1, what do you want to see in a bill. and we met with lindsey graham. these were blunt, no holds barred meetings. how optimistic are you that there can be some breakthrough own this issue particular chi before next year's midterm elections? andrea? >> to be honest, i wasn't -- i didn't come away quite as optimistic as i would have liked or hoped.

i think that all the meetings were very good. they are very blunt. but we also have our work cut out for us. and so i think that it is critical. one thing, though, that was stated over and over again is that people coming out in the various ways this they have come out thus far, and even just the announcement of the marches that we are having on august 28th in five cities, plus four sister cities -- and at this point we are up to 25 activations, people on the hill are taking notice. and it is opening up a sense of pressure and discourse. so i think that that is one of the things that we came away with, that i personally came away with most clearly is that what we are doing is important to continue to move the needle forward. >> martin, we had you here with us a few months ago as both the suppression and protection campaigns were picking up.

i called it every bit of a coup that happened with the insurrection that we saw in january. while i'm not surprised, i'm not oblivious to the fact that this kind of mass action is still necessary to protect our central democratic right. we heard everybody, even those that didn't agree with what we were trying to push them towards, say, if we were you, we would be doing what you are doing. what are your thoughts as we get ready to take back to the streets on a national collective level, and i would say intergenerational and multiracial at the end of the month to fight the same battles your father did when you and i were just kids? >> well, you know, rev, i -- i, like you, initially started, certainly feel a little disappointed. but i understand that every generation -- my mother used to say, we all -- freedom is never permanent. it's something you have to constantly fight for. so i was excited about what we

saw in the streets last year, tragically, after george floyd's death. i'm still excited about the fact that young people are engaged. we just have to figure out, how do we keep young people at the forefront of these struggles? it is certainly all of our fights, it is so important for young people. young people are more engaged than we have ever seen. your daughter asked us everything you could think of about our meetings. when i was 13 i didn't think about politics that way. she wanted to know about everything that happened. most children don't ask how did that meeting go? tell me what you did on that day on top of what she had seen on the news. i think there are a lot of people likeio landa in the nation who will be raring to go and join us on the 28th and

leading beyond. >> a member the narc action network who was only 24 was with us. i brought him to every meeting. they will be a part of leading this. andrea, as we were leaving we saw aoc and some of our progressive allies. we had to go and stand with those from texas, the democrats that had left texas and left it because it denied the texas legislature being able to have a quorum if they were not in the state and couldn't be brought there to the halls of that legislative body. and they had been in washington for over two weeks then. it was your idea that we bring them to the king memorial right there on the potomac river. they understand that they were embraced by the spirit of dr.

king, your father-in-law had done. i think that was the most moving thing for me that day, to be standing in the shadows of the monument. i remember, martin, when we spoke at both the ground breaking and when it was unveiled. but it was moving there were people actually making a sacrifice standing in the shadows of your father's statue on the national mall. andrea, that was your idea. tell us why it was important to you. >> i think -- you know, it's interesting. it's always interesting how people paid lip service and couch -- you know, couch quarterback, you know, these movements or people in the movements. but these are mothers and fathers, people that are putting literally their lives on the line. their children in some cases are not there with them. they hadn't seen their kids in weeks, are not sure when they are going to see them again. they are standing for the peace and justice and freedom for all of us, every single one of us. and i thought that the least that we could do is just look

them in the eye and say thank you, to acknowledge the importance of what they are doing, to say thank you and to, in some small way -- to -- to lift them up and hopefully give them the strength to keep on keeping on. you think about the civil rights movement. every night in most of the major campaigns there were -- the community came together n the churches. yes, part of it was to get instructions for the next day. but it was also important for all of the participants to be entrenched and to be uplifted, lift each other up. i think there is no greater thing that we could have done than to be with us who are putting everything on the line and tell them thank you, keep them going, lift them up, let them know they are important to our entire nation. >> all right. thank you both for being with us, andrea and martin luther king iii. now back to the big lie, and the gop's weaponization of it

ahead of next year's mid terms. joining me now is pennsylvania senator bob casey, a democrat. senator casey, thank you for joining us tonight. first, i'd like to get your reaction to something that house minority leader kevin mccarthy said last night at a fund raiser in tennessee. watch this. >> i will make this one promise to you. if we win the majority, which i know we're going to, you're all invited. i want to you watch nancy pelosi hand me that gavel. it will be hard not to hit her with it, but -- [ inaudible ] thanks. >> a spokesman for mccarthy claimed the minority leader was, quote, obviously joking. but what's your reaction to this kind of violent rhetoric from

one of the top figures in the republican party, the minority leader of the house? >> reverend al, thanks, great to be with you. first and foremost, it indicates that leader mccarthy, who has been following donald trump in ways that no one thought was possible for a man to kinds of prostraight themselves in front of another official. now he seems to be adopting his language as well. that's not the language of a leader, to suggest that kind of violence against another individual. so i don't think anyone is surprised. he seems to be adopting both the language and the tactics of donald trump. >> now, taking their cues from arizona, republican lawmakers in your state have been lobbying for another fraudulent forensic audit of the 2020 general election results.

it appears that might not happen now, after several counties refused to turn over voting machines and other materials, ultimately declining to participate. it would seem like a win for rule of law, and for reality, quite frankly. but how does this frab ri kated debate over 2020 at the state level -- fabricated debate over 2020 at the state level relate to the fight for congress leading up to 2022? >> i think it is what you started with. it's the question of the big lie, the constant lying about the last election, which was a free and fair election. in pennsylvania, we had a hard-fought race, and joe biden carried pennsylvania. but you are going to continue to see, in pennsylvania, and a lot of other states, republicans doing the bidding of trump, trying to overturn -- or trying to perpetuate the lie to overturn the election, even going as far as some of them not

only condoning but even participating in the violence of january the 6th. but now you are going to see it in legislation and other efforts. the good news is, some republican counties are refusing to engage in the -- or take steps to foster big lie. like, for example, as was noted recently, kai owinga county, a republican party voted 70% for donald trump would not go along with this part of the big life. let's hope that continues in counties throughout the country. >> now, senator, according to the pittsburgh post gazette, hundreds of thousands of residents in your state are at risk for eviction after the federal eviction moratorium ended yesterday without congress passing an extension. we know that you cosponsored the brown-schumer bill to extend the

eviction moratorium into the fall. how is your state preparing? and barring another extension, what can be done at the federal level to keep millions off the streets? >> well, i think every level of government has to be prepared and to take action. now, my obligation is to sponsor and to push legislation to extend the eviction moratorium. i think the administration has an obligation to make sure that not -- that they are not satisfied with having almost $47 billion appropriated. that's not good enough. that money has to get to people. unfortunately, at the state and local level, it's being held up because of paperwork. some of it necessary to prevent fraud. but we have to work, and the administration has to work to push state and local governments to get that money out. that money has been appropriated for a reason. we can't allow people to be without -- without shelter,

without a home, without a place to live because the money is in the pipeline but being held up. we have an obligation as a congress, the states have a responsibility as well to move that money like it should be moving. it shouldn't be held up like it is now. >> pennsylvania senators were split up on funding for projects. you voted for, in support of the bill, and senator toomey opposed it. at this point, how optimistic are you that this bill will pass? >> reverend al, i am very optimistic it will pass in the next few days. as soon as that bill passes though, on physical notice of, roads and bridges, we have to move to the second part of the agenda, which is to pass a budget resolution to really just

begin a second process. and that process is to make sure we are investing in families to get folks back to work, making sure that families have quality affordable child care, that seniors and people with disabilities have opportunities for home and community based services, prekindergarten education for young children, and so many other issues that we have got to address to lift up families and workers, get them back to work, and get our economy moving so we can outcompete china or any other nation in the world. >> thank you, senator bob casey, for being with us. coming up on "politics nation," republicans are using our children's school system as a playground for their cultural wars. i'm going to tell you how to rise up against the noise. and later, voter suppression isn't the only thing we have to worry about. what you need to know about the latest gop tactic to restrict our rights. but first, my colleague,

richard lui with today's top news stories. >> some of the stories we are watching this hour. covid cases today hit rates not seen hins february this. morning the biden administration's chief medical adviser anthony fauci saying things will get worse. the cdc pleading for all to get vaccinated immediately. florida's disney world and california's disneyland reinstated mask man dates for guests and staff regardless of vaccination status. today florida reported hospitalizations at highs never seen before. this a day after daily cases hit an all-time high as well. the dixie wildfire rages in northern california. the state's largest fire has burned three times the area of atlanta. like many fires in the west only a small portion of the fire is contained, 32%. southern europe also battling fires. a place in sardinia italy forced

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it's august 1st. so for this week's rise up, i want to talk about the coming school year. millions of american children will be returning to school this month, only to find that their education has become a cultural battleground. more than a dozen states have either passed legislation banning the teaching of critical race theory or are considering similar bills. and on a local level, hundreds of school districts are in the middle of pitched fights on the topic. before we dig into the absurdity of the bans like this, let's be

clear about what critical race theory actually is. it is just a strategy to analyze the way racist laws and events from our past impact our lives in the present. and despite the current occur if you havel over k-12 education, it is primarily taught in specialized law school classes. but because the name can sound intimidating to those who are unfamiliar with it, some bad-faith actors are labeling all discussions of racism in the context of american history as critical race theory and trying to sweep those unflattering errors under the rug. let's look at texas, for example. one bill that already is passed the texas senate would eliminate the requirement that students be taught the, quote, history of white supremacy, including but

not limited to the institution of slavery, the eugenics movement, and the ku klux klan, and the ways in custom it was morally wrong. that bill is bad enough. but texas has already passed a law preventing the teaching of concepts that make students, quote, uncomfortable on the basis of race or sex. so if learn being the true bar barrism of american slavery, or the racist violence of the klan makes students uncomfortable, it's no longer required in the lone star statement but here's the thing about history. it should make you uncomfortable. many of the same founding fathers who wrote soaring words about liberty and justice for all owned human beings, trading, beating, and working them like cattle. being a patriot is knowing all

of that and still believing in the promise of this country, that we can do better than our ancestors. luckily, most americans know that. even in ruby red, iowa, for instance. most people oppose the new law banning discussions of systemic racism and sexism in schools. but we can't get complacent. having public opinion on our side is not enough, because the racist cowards that would fire teachers and ban certain books are accurately describing the history of racism and bigotry in this country are already showing up at school board meetings. and they are loud. so we have to be louder. we have to rise up together and show up to those same meetings, demanding that our children get a full and accurate history curriculum. if you have school-aged children, pay attention to what their history textbooks say, and make sure the lessons are being

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welcome back to "politics nation." i have lot to get to my political panel, so let's bring them in. rick tyler is a republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, and don callaway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund. let me go to you first, don. i want to start with the upcoming redistricting process.

we have been rightly focused on voter suppression attempts, but extreme republican gerrymandering can also subvert the will voters. they were so successful at it last time around that states like wisconsin, regularly have more votes cast for democrats yet maintain sizable majorities for republicans. how worried are you that we are about to see this anti-democratic tactic ramped up again? because we are coming now with redistricting based on last year's census, which was low. they can redraw some lines. they are already seeing we are going to lose some congressional districts and we are going to see these lines drawn in my mind in dangerous ways in many states. >> i have been a part of a lot of redistricting committees at

the state and local level. the majority has the reigns, but they don't have organizations -- >> damon -- yes, go ahead. >> one thing the democrats have gotten right. democrats are very, very good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. one thing that we have got is typically the legal lawyers and processes in place in every state to fight the gerrymandering maps. as soon as they come out, they will be fought in federal courts, federal courts largely stocked by trump and mitch mcconnell. i am not that concerned about this. i am more concerned whether congress passes the john lewis

act or the for the people act. because municipalities need to understand what the voting procedures are in time for the elections next year. we are going to do well in the courts. >> the walls seem to be closing in on the former president. the irs has also been ordered to turn his tax returns over to congress, and the investigation into his conduct on january 6th is ongoing. rick, should donald trump be worried that he's finally going to see some accountability? i mean, what do you expect his next move to be? >> he's going to deny everything, rev. it's good to be with you. look donald trump will do the same thing he always does. he will call it a conspiracy. he will call it a witch-hunt. and the question will be, because this -- although it is -- you know, breaking the law is a matter for justice, and the

department of justice, but as a former president -- we have never been in this territory before, we have never had a former president that i know of who ever faced indictment, and certainly never faced jail time we will see if there is a will of the biden administration and the justice department to prosecute, even though they would be prosecuting a former president, which does have inherent dangers. because it threatens the political process. we have seen this in other countries -- we see it in russia today. navalny is still in jail because he is a political threat to putin. i don't want to compare those two but that is the extreme of what happens when you begin to go after -- at least it is perceived that you are going after your political enemies. >> the federal eviction moratorium lapsed at 12:01 this morning. and millions of americans are now in danger of becoming homeless. here's what massachusetts congresswoman ayana presley had

to say. >> we are remaining vigilant until we have exhausted every tool at our disposal because eviction is a policy choice. eviction is violent on its own. but to evict 7 million to 11 million people in the midst of a pandemic with surges in the delta variant is a death sentence. period. and we have to do everything to prevent a national tent city and an eviction tsunami. and that's why we are here. >> don, what happens now? >> the congresswoman is correct. shout out to my hometown congresswoman from st. louis corpse bush. i think state can local actors have to step up. we spend so much of our time on cable television and on the east coast worried about national politics, but the reality is we elect state legislature force a reason n. a lot of places we

can't count on the state legislatures to step up, but we are mayors like lewis and -- they have the power to work with legislatures to extend eviction moratoriums. remember, y'all, federal law is a floor, not a ceiling. we as people of good conscious have the right to exceed that floor at any moment. i will be working with policy organizations to make sure people know how to get the word out to extend local eviction moratoriums regardless of what the united states congress does or does not do. >> let me turn to the other side of the housing crisis. scarcity. rick, you were quoted in a bloomberg report about wall street firms buying up single-family homes to use it as rental stock. and now some very trumpy republicans like representative marjorie taylor green are trying to tie democrats to this phenomenon. this is in spite of the fact many democrats, massachusetts

senator elizabeth warren comes to mind -- have been railing against wall street successes for years. of course, republicans have shown very little concern over other housing issues like the eviction moratorium. i mean, what's really going on here? >> it is a populous message that wall street now -- because this is a lot of what trump brought into the party, people who are skeptical of wall street. remember, al, wall street, it wouldn't be possible for me now to be speaking to you through skype without wall street. it wouldn't be possible for many of the companies we use every day to be possible without wall street. on the eviction -- on the eviction notices keep in mine there are billions of dollars supposed to be available to people who are in danger of eviction. even know the moratorium has expired and apparently that came as a surprise to nancy pelosi as the white house only informed them today about it. what's the answer to that? can you -- she didn't get it extended. she tried to but couldn't get it done. but there is a policy mismatch

because there is money for people to draw on so they don't get evicted. so there is something messed up with that policy. as far as private companies investing in single-family homes there is a lack of single-family homes. they are buying a lot of single-family homes and aptsd. but they are also building them. i don't see how marjorie taylor green calls that socialism. >> thank you both for being with us. up next, we know americans of color can often have a more difficult time getting access to credit cards and banking. and it is getting harder and harder to get by with nothing but cash. one congressman is doing something about it. i'll talk to him next. age before beauty?

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recently, you might have gone into a store for a restaurant and seen a familiar sign that reads "no cash accepted". since the start the pandemic, more and more businesses have decided to go cashless, taking only debit, credit, or phone apps as a form of payment. but whether it is for sanitary reasons or tech-savvy ones, the physical elimination of legal currency for consumer transactions is discriminating against an array of marginalized groups. now a bill has been introduced to congress in hopes to make it illegal for businesses to reject in-person cash-driven purchases. joining me now is the congressman who introduced that legislation, democrat from new jersey, representative donald

payne jr. congressman, thank you for being with us. i want to get right into it and discuss this bill called the payment choice act. tell me what made you want to introduce it, and why it is so important to protect americans' ability to pay with cash during in-person shopping or dining. >> let me first say, rev, it's really great to be here with you to discuss this issue. it's a problem that troubled me when i initially heard about it. the payment choice act would make it illegal to reject american currency as legal tender in exchange for goods and services. right now, there are about 55 million unbanked or underbanked people in this country. and this figure is sure to have increased after the financial insecurity, you know, caused by

the -- the americans during the pandemic with the covid-19. there are americans who must use cash to pay for their daily necessities. and african-americans as other minorities, as well as the elderly and disabled use cash the most. so we cannot reject them and their needs because they don't have a credit card or apple pay. >> now, in 2019, there was a survey that found that most unbanked households were lower income, less educated households of color, specifically black and hispanic. so if a business goes cashless, it alienates not just the unbanked, but the communities of color, too. what is the solution here? >> well, i think the most obvious solution is to pass my bill and make sure that communities of color do not

suffer discrimination in our economy. after that, you know, there is not any one solution to the problem because there are different reasons people are unbanked or underbanked. now, it could be lack of income, or a lack of access, or a lack of trust in banks and other financial institutions. so whatever the reason americans should have the freedom to pay in the way that is most convenient to them. >> now, in an expensive city like new york, i have seen cashless spots everywhere, from restaurants to clothing stores. nationwide. there are currently 55 million americans who do not have a bank account to pay for basic needs in their lives. if you are a minor, or elderly, or disabled, or low income, or does not have the means to have a credit card or a smart phone with an application to pay, the

store might turn you away. how is this allowed, congressman? well, that's actually what we are really, really fighting for here. this is america, the land of choice, the land of freedom, and should be able to pay in the manner in which is most comfortable to you. you know, minorities, and elderly and the disabled are far more likely to be unbanked and underbanked. being underbanked or unbanked affects 25% of african-americans and latinos. >> wow. >> and close to one out of every five disabled americans is impacted by that. and one out of ten elderly are impacted. so stores who reject cash are rejecting these americans as customers as well.

recently, there was a woman in california that i heard about who had to leave her groceries, her food and medicine in the grocery store because the management rejected her when she got to the register to pay with cash. this is just unacceptable. we cannot deny any american food and medicine simply because they are unable to play electronically. it's just un-american, period. >> now, lastly a lot of these cashless places include sporting venues which transitioned into becoming cashless due to the pandemic. they didn't want their staff handling cash. business owners also might think that being cashless means being more efficient when it comes to checking customers out. what they may not have taken into account was just how exclusionary going cashless is. what would you like to say to those businesses?

i think they need to ask themselves whether they really want to deny goods and services to minority, elderly and disabled customers? this bill is about making sure all americans have access to products and services offered in our country. to not accept a dollar bill, legal to me. it gives americans more choices in how they pay for goods and services. and americans should be able to pay for their items in a way that is most convenient for the customers and gives them an option to protect their privacy. and this is a big issue around privacy as well. we are being, you know, checked in everywhere by auto pass and in apple pay and with our debit cards. and it's just more and more information that's being collected on us.

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picks up our news coverage now. with a special guest tonight, senator elizabeth taylor. >> elizabeth warren, thank you so much, reverend sharpton. >> i said taylor, wow. i blew that one. >> i'm alicia menendez. welcome to "american voices." at this hour, we're closely watching the senate floor. a group of bipartisan senators working through the weekend to agree on a $1 trillion infrastructure bill. the latest from senate majority leader chuck schumer is that the bill's release is imminent. so any moment, we could get it, and we will bring it to you. but as we wait, some other big news to report from capitol hill this hour. backlash against the house minority leader for saying this last night. >> i'll make this one prophecy, if we win the majority, which i don't know we're going to, you're all invited. i want you to watch nancy pelosi hand me