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update any minute. will the country's biggest city mandate masks indoors, all of it as the new york governor the last couple of minutes is putting place new vaccine requirements and pushing private businesses to do something extra. we'll tell you about it, with our team live in tokyo with the breaking news out of the olympics, with simone biles, the overnight decision she will compete in one event tomorrow, as the american women wrap up another epic match on the soccer turf. i'm hallie jackson in washington. vaughn hillyard in jacksonville, florida, kathy park in new york city and dr. tom frieden, president and ceo of resolve to save lives. good morning to all of you. vaughn, let me start with you in florida. you're outside of a hospital that's well past illustrates earlier record for covid hospitalizations. talk about the landscape in florida. you also have the governor coming out and saying no mask mandates. i ban basically any requirements for masking in places like
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schools, et cetera. how much worse are officials bracing for it to get there? >> reporter: it's not getting better any time here soon. you're looking at more than 40% of florida adults are still not fully vaccinated and it's those individuals, those unvaccinated individuals that make up the population inside of these hospitals. we're told across the state of florida that 96% of the patients, the covid patients in hospitals are unvaccinated individuals. you can just look at that rate of hospitalization, jump up over the course of this weekend. now more than 10,000 breaking last summer's hospitalization record here. i want to let everybody listen to u.s. health jacksonville er dr. elizabeth davossier. we don't have access. folks can't see what's happening behind the windows. what are you seeing? >> we're seeing more patients now than ever before that are sick with covid and very ill.
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we're having mostly younger patients in their 40s and 50s patients requiring admission to the hospital or icu. >> reporter: compared to last summer the average age is 42 years old of individuals that are in the hospitals for covid. what are you seeing now on a daily basis? are you seeing 20 years old, 30 years old? >> i've seen a patient as young as 3 weeks old. >> reporter: in terms of health and sickness, what do you want people to understand that have not been vaccinated? >> the vaccine is the thing that we have to help to prevent people from having serious illness. we're starting to see a little bit of an increase in the number of patients who are seeking vaccine in the county and we want to continue to encourage that and when people can't be vaccinated or can't maintain social distance, aim to encourage using masks. >> reporter: how many people did you have with covid in your hospital engine?
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>> we had 14. >> reporter: now? >> over 220. >> reporter: right in there? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: 14, now 225. your biggest fear in the days ahead? >> we just need to keep finding places to take care of these patients and the patients with other emergencies. we're really proud of our team for stepping up and making spaces, but across the city and even across the state we're seeing the same problems. >> reporter: dr. devos, best to you and your team. hallie, 14 in june, 225 here at the start of august. >> it is a stark statistic, vaughn. it is a scary one. kathy, further up the coast in new york. you're in times square. you've got people all around the country trying to update guidance with case numbers going up. the new york city mayor giving an update on the situation, right after governor foe quo in the last couple of minutes suggested to private businesses he's basically asking them to on their own accord put some
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vaccine mandates, vaccine requirements in place. >> reporter: the numbers are trending in the wrong direction and we're expecting an update with mayor bill de blasio and we'll bring you that as soon as he announces it. last week he announced that city workers will need to be vaccinated by mid-september or be subject to weekly testing. as you mentioned, governor cuomo also announced today some more restrictions, specifically when it comes to the mta and port authority by labor day, those folks in those agencies need to get vaccinated and subject to the weekly testing requirements, so here in new york city and
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beyond, the rules are starting to come back, and also just last week, we got announcement when it comes to broadway, just right around the corner here, hallie. a lot of the theaters here will be requiring a proof of vaccination for theater goers and for those not eligible to get a vaccine they need to show a negative covid test and when they are inside regardless of vaccination status, they will be required to wear masks indoors. once again, we are standing by with an update on the mask guidance in new york city. >> keeping an eye on what we hear from the new york city mayor and governor cuomo. dr. frieden, we want to get you to answer a couple of questions on things that a lot of people are wondering. a "news you can use" kind of discussion here. we're talking about vaccine requirements and the private sector. what about mask requirements for people who are vaccinated? do you believe all vaccinated americans regardless of where they live should wear masks indoors? >> bottom line is that delta is doubly infectious and we have to
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double down our layers of protection. that means vaccinating as many people as we can, as quickly as we can, and in certain circumstances, masking up even if you're vaccinated for lots of reasons, including the plain fact that we can't know who is vaccinated and who is not in most situations. >> discussion of a booster shot. scott gottlieb if you're immunocompromised or more at risk, you might want to get one. when will we know if people who have the shot need a third one or in some cases a second one? >> it's important we distinguish a booster shot from what we would call the vaccine schedule. it may be that certain people, particularly people with solid organ transplants, kidney transplantses may benefit from a third dose. we'll find that out in the coming weeks. booster is a different issue. after 6 or 12 months or five years, will you need another set of shots or will the virus change so much that we need
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different vaccine, a tweaked vaccine? never underestimate this virus. it's changing. it's deadly, and if we ignore the science, we do so at our peril and the peril of those who are around us. >> so to that point, my colleagues have been reporting that we are seeing vaccination rates go up in some states, where you are seeing more issues, for example, with covid cases, which may be a good sign that folks are starting to maybe understand the message, starting to see these stories of vaccine regret, which we will talk about in a moment. schools are getting ready to open. we are coming to back to school season here. do you do that safely for kids under 12 who cannot get vaccinated, dr. frieden? >> hallie, it's crucially important that we let kids get back to school in person this fall. we open schools and keep them open. we can do that through layered protections. vaccinating everyone who could be vaccinated, masking up indoors, increasing ventilation, getting ready for that
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occasional or more than occasional case so that it doesn't become a big cluster, and having special accommodations for the very few students and staff who have serious underlying health conditions and will need some sort of accommodation. >> should fully vaccinated people avoid dining indoors for a little while? >> if you're fully vaccinated, do you have immunocompromise, living with someone who is immunocompromised? if not, then you can probably dine indoors with others. if so, you may want to think twice about it. >> there's a lot of reports coming out and one thing that i know many folks have been reading with interest. people who did not get the vaccine got serious cases of covid or family members got covid and some instances died from it, who now regret not getting the shot. we just showed the headline for example from one of the "new york times" pieces about this. do you think dr. frieden this might be what helps make the difference? these stories now which you could call it vaccine regret
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becoming more and more prominent among people who live in these communities? >> sadly, hallie, this is what we experience every day as physicians. patients who come to us and say i wish i had, fill in the blank, gotten vaccinated, stopped smoking, done something years ago so i wouldn't have this illness now. this is one thing that we need to do. make clear, what is the reality of covid? how do those stories motivate people so that we can prevent preventable tragedies, but there's a broader issue. it's not just about individuals. it's about our society. it's about congress. right now, this week in the balance is legislation that will either fully fund the $30 billion which the administration requested, to prevent pandemics or not. it was a proposal we heard down to $5 billion. we need to be safer, if we are safer, we can get our economy back, with can he get our jobs back. we can get our kids back to school and we can be healthy ourselves. >> dr. tom frieden, great and useful and helpful information. thank you so much, kathy park,
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von hilliard, thank you for your great reporting. a lot of headlines on this topic. we're watching for more including the news conference from the new york city mayor. we'll bring you news on that the second we get it. also happening in the building behind me here, the senate coming into session in just under two hours, after finally unveiling that infrastructure bill overnight, that kicks off open season for amendments, with a couple of big questions now. what ended up being in this thing, and what happens next. nbc's sahil kapur is on capitol hill. let me start with a second part of those two questions, which is where does this go from here? what are you looking at to now and is it possible that this all gets wrapped up, the infrastructure really only lasts through the end of this week and they can get something done before they head out on friday are? >> infrastructure week finally arrived in the senate. there's a 2700 page bill worth about $555 billion, that senators have finally released after more than a month of negotiating and are ready to begin votes on this.
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two parties have to agree on a process, specific amendments, which come up, what order and where they go from here. the senate is a funny place t can do things very quickly, if there is unanimous consent. if a single senator objects to the process, they could be forced jump through hoops and this could drag out pretty much all week. the one big thing that senator chuck schumer the majority leader of the house is the fact august recess is scheduled to begin this friday. senators don't like to give that up and tends to be a motivator to move the process along if it appears a bill is inevitable unlikely to pass, as this one certainly does. remember, it began moving forward and breaking a filibuster with 67 votes, that includes 17 republicans, that includes leader mitch mcconnell for senator republicans. schumer wants to move needily to the so-called budget resolution that instructs committees to start writing this $3.5 trillion
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reconciliation bill that includes many of president biden's priorities, everything from investments in climate change, education, health care, paid leave, money to take care of people who are sick. now, that is going to require all 50 senate democrats to move forward. it's just a vehicle. it is non-binding. it is likely to happen. the real fight comes down the road where you have moderate members, senator kyrsten sinema already clashing with progressives like congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez over the price tag. sinema is not okay with the $3.5 trillion. aoc says this is a compromise down frs $6 trillion to $10 trillion. this will be a long battle. they need to get all the members in congress on board. >> sahil, thank you. much more ahead with senator kaine whether the infrastructure bill might pass plus what the
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♪♪ breaking biles news this morning, simone surprise as overnight team usa gymnastics is confirming simone biles will compete. she will compete in tomorrow's balance beam final, along with teammate suni lee. biles pulled out of other events as she dealt with mental health issues, something gymnasts call the twittwisties where they lose track of where they are
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midair. keir simmons, your reaction to a great day for team usa gymnastics. >> reporter: yes. i was just looking at the team usa instagram or latest post which says "she's back!" so that pretty much sums up i think the atmosphere and the excitement about this announcement. the official announcement, hallie, with a little more detail from usa gymnastics saying we are so excited to confirm that you will see two u.s. athletes in the balance beam final tomorrow, suni lee and simone biles. can't wait to watch you both. so what a comeback i guess you could say. clearly we don't know how she'll do. everyone will be hoping that she wins a medal and to add to all of her medals. she had so much support from the athletic community and from fans. fans really excited now to see her back and hoda kotb just had
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a chance to speak to mykayla skinner. take a listen. >> i have been talking to every single day so beam is the one. i'm excited to cheer for her and hope she can medal and do the dismount of her life. she's working on different dismounts and figuring things out. >> reporter: so excitement. i think excitement is the right apt term to describe the atmosphere. >> what is so interesting, keir, not that i'm a gymnastics commentator, far from it but i read and heard discussion -- >> reporter: nor am i. let's just be clear. i'm not either. >> you are in midair less and on beam your hands or feet are connected to the ground in a way that's not always the case on floor exercises, certainly not on uneven bars or something else and that may have played into her decision here moving forward to be able to do this. you heard mykayla skinner kind of talk about that.
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>> reporter: yes, exactly right. many athletes had the opportunity to talk about just the risks of going in to the kinds of performances that we've seen from simone biles in the past that there is a real danger if you're not feeling right about it. so that's i think part of the reason why people have said this is the right decision. while it's been talked about as a mental health decision, it's also a physical health decision. >> that's right. it's a safety decision. >> reporter: that's just going to be -- exactly, but it's going to be put in the past now, because all eyes will be on the balance beam and to see how she does. >> keir simmons, i know we'll also be watching that bronze medal match for the u.s. women's soccer team after they missed out on the gold medal match due ta their defeat this morning. a lot of good front row seats over the next few days. thank you, appreciate you joining us live from tokyo. next up we are joined live from here in washington by this guy, senator tim kaine, where sees a land mine that may derail
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now that the bipartisan infrastructure bill is finally out, clocking in at nearly 3,000 pages and about $555 billion in new spending, everyone is looking to see where the chips fall and the next steps are before it gets to a final vote. see the run-through, the tick tock of what is in it, how much of it in spending. i'm joined by democratic senate tim kaine who sits on the budget committee. good morning and thanks for being back on the show. >> absolutely, hallie. great to talk today. >> give us the scoop. senate comes in at noon. any votes, any movement you know of yet? what is the time line you're hearing from your leadership? >> looks like we're going to start to have votes in about 3:00 or 3:30 on amendments. once the bill was finalized and i was presiding last night as the group of ten were presenting the text, then every office combs through it and starts to offer amendments to the bill.
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i have a couple of amendments we filed and will probably start voting on amendments this afternoon. some of the amendments will be non-controversial, what a great idea. whom will be poison pills designed to either weaken or kill the bill. the leader schumer kind of works to manage the amendment process to determine how many amendments there will be. you'll probably see us have a pretty heavy schedule of amendment votes early in the week, and hopefully move on to final passage of the bill sometime midweek. >> senator manchin said by thursday as far as final passage. is that realistic or optimistic? >> it is realistic. look, we learned if you want to, you can do a lot of amendments in a very short time. i had a bill about a year ago where we had seven amendment votes in two hours. so you can do a whole lot of amendment votes if everybody's committed to doing it. these are amendments that would have to get to 60 votes in order to be added to the bill so the amendments have to be bipartisan just as the bill is bipartisan.
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i know senator schumer wants to move us. he wants to get to the next bill which is a budget committee member, that's the one i've been working on, the reconciliation bill. >> so i want to talk about that in a second. are you happy with where this bipartisan group landed, any land mines so far? i wonder about your level of concern about republicans looking to potentially draw this process out. >> i do think some republicans will want to draw it out absolutely. the good news is we are in the majority. we have tools to bring it to a close. senator schumer will do that. i'm happy with the bill. i followed it closely, i applaud the group of 10 and larger group of 20 that put it together. the bill doesn't have everything in it i'd like. that's why i'm excited about the reconciliation opportunity that we have and i've been working hard on that. >> let me ask but that reconciliation bill. house speaker pelosi signaled she'll hold up this other bipartisan piece of things until she gets the democrat only $3.5
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trillion, your committee is working on that one. when is that going to get a vote so committees can start the process? >> so hallie, i'm sure you shared this with your viewers. we first have to kind of set up the framework. it's an instruction. hey, we want to write a bill up to this level and different committees here it is. but we each have to negotiate. during the recess we'll be negotiating the pieces of the bill to put it on the floor when we come back in september. you'll see the bill put on the floor in department and we have to try to get every one of the 50 democrats on board which is no small feat. we did it in the american rescue plan and i predict we'll do it here. >> senator sinema has said she is not down with the $3.5 trillion price tag. are you working on slimming this down to get her on board and others who are similar?
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>> not really. some of the folks in the bipartisan discussion they've not really been involved in the discussion about the reconciliation bill to the degree budget committees have been. they've been busy with the bipartisan bill. i think once they see what's in it and it's not about the number. it's what it does for people. i think once they see what it does for people we'll get all 50 democrats on board with a robust reconciliation bill that's transformative. >> that sounds like a polite way of saying senator sinema, read what we're doing on the reconciliation piece. >> look, we have deep respect, i do, for the work she's done and joe and the others. mark warner from virginia on the bipartisan bill. i encouraged him and been optimistic and praised him along the way. i have no reason to believe they're not going to have the same respect for our work product and what we've been trying to do and i've seen this with senator sinema, with us with the american rescue plan, joe manchin, too.
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50 out of 50, everybody has opinions and needs to be accommodated but that can happen and i believe it will. >> i have to ask you about this federal, the eviction moratorium officially expired. >> yes. >> this is huge news, senator. this affects millions of people around the country, something we covered on this show last week, following up on it today and congresswoman corey bush is sleeping outside the capitol, showing video for several nights now in protest of it. i want to play something she said this morning. listen. >> you know, i don't understand why yesterday we were watching the senate, watching their cars pull up but they didn't do anything to help. >> there's also reporting out of the playbook some house members are looking at pushing you senators to add an amendment to extend eviction protection. first, is that an idea you would support? >> hallie, i'm going to tell you this. i've been focused on the long-term solution.
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we need a long-term solution and look, here is the challenge. if you extend the moratorium, what happens is people's back due debt grows larger and larger and larger, and so i know some want to extend the moratorium through the end of the year. then their debts will be higher and we'll have them be evicted in january? i'm focused on big investment in rental relief. we need to provide rental relief so people behind can pay, people struggling economically can pay. we've done that in the c.a.r.e.s. act and in the other bills that we've passed and i'm proud to say that virginia's first or second in the nation in the degree to which it's taken the dollars and allocated them out to renters having problems. we need to do more of that. right now in the reconciliation bill, there is a massive investment in housing that will help people actually pay off, pay their rent and pay off their debt rather than allow the debt to compound. so look, i'm not averse to a moratorium extension. i think the right answer is to not let these debts continue to
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grow, but to actually get people the tools they need to come current on their rent. >> i take your point, looking for a long-term solution here. in the short term, there are going to be a lot of people who are affected by this. you described anything in these bills is going to take time. when it comes to the immediate term, house democrats calling on the administration to do something. the administration says we can't. congress, you've got to do something. who failed here? whose responsibility is this? >> i think that's the wrong question, hallie. i don't think anybody failed. look at the amount that congress has put into emergency rental relief in the c.a.r.e.s. act in march '20, the american rescue plan. we have provided sizeable dollars to help folks get through this crisis. it has been a nearly unprecedented health and economic crisis, but we provided sizeable resources, so it's not like congress hasn't been paying attention to it. we need to do more and we will do more. >> senator tim kaine, always a pressure. thank you very much. i'm sure we'll have you back in the days to come.
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appreciate your time. this morning, some other developing news with the taliban advancing quickly. the united states is announcing plans to ramp up efforts to get afghans out who are at risk of violence there. the biden administration is expanding the number of people who can apply for ref ju status in the u.s., joining the thousands of interpreters who have already been permitted or seeking permission to enter the country. we see the buses, interpreters, 200 arrived in the last week. courtney kube. you've been talking to folks about this plan. what are you learning? >> that's right. we had a conference call with a number of state department owe fishes who gave us more insight into what this is. hallie, rather than the special immigrant visa program which we heard so much about in recent weeks, this is called priority 2 or p2, a new designation that potentially tens of thousands of afghans would be eligible for to come to the united states and
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resettle here as refugees, among the categories of individuals who could qualify for this new p2 status are current and former employees of u.s.-based news organizations, so media outlets, u.s.-based aid and development agencies, relief groups that receive u.s. funding, and u.s. government and nato operations, people who supported those. this actually meets one of the major criticisms that we've heard from members of congress, and that is the bureaucratic holdups surrounding employment verification. in order to be eligible for a special imgrant visa, as you know from your reporting, you need to have worked for the u.s. government, whether it's the military or state department for two years, and then you need to be able to verify that. with this new p2 designation, these individuals would be able to sort of skip that step. but there is one huge, huge difference from the siv program with the p2. that is these individuals have to get out of the country, get out of afghanistan with their
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families on their own about ever they can even begin the process. so they have to leave afghanistan, then they need to have their employer nominate them essential will i for this potential p2 designation and then it will take at least a year-plus for them to potentially be accepted into the program. they go through a series of background checks. >> yes. >> security checks. so this is not a quick process, and the big question is, what will happen with the individuals who just simply can't get out of afghanistan because they can't afford to, and afford to live in another country for a year. >> courtie kube, great reporting. we'll check back in with you throughout the day on "msnbc reports." thank you. when we wet goc the volley in the war of words between the top democrat and top republican in the house. why dems are blasting kevin mccarthy for what he called a joke about nancy pelosi. later, recruiting an influencer army. why the white house is teaming up with tiktokers and youtubers whose names you should know. that's next.
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a quick update now from new york city's mayor on the masking guidance we talked about at the top of the show. here's the deal. just a couple of minutes ago play wither de blasio says the city is strongly recommending people wear masks inside, even if they're vaccinated. so no new mandate there, but the mayor is reminding people there are a lot of places where masks have been and are still required inside like on public transit, like in certain health care settings, too. we want to give you an update on that, since we talked about it earlier. also giving an update on what's going on between nancy pelosi and kevin mccarthy, with their relationship it seems hitting new lows. the latest thing, the house republican leader under fire for saying this at a republican party fund-raiser in tennessee this weekend. watch. >> i want you to watch nancy pelosi hand me that gavel. [ cheers and applause ] it'll be hard not to hit her
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with it. >> spokesman saying he was "obviously joking" when he talked about how difficult it would be to not hit the speak of the house with her gavel. leigh ann caldwell, democrats are upset, some calling on him to apologize. others want him to resign. what are you hearing on your end there? >> reporter: hey, hallie. it's silence from republicans, the only republican we've heard from is the republican you mentioned, the spokesman to leader mccarthy who says leader mccarthy was joking when he made those remarks. there are many democrats who are coming to speaker pelosi's defense, taking to twitter and tweeting things like "america suffered enough violence around politics. gop mccarthy is now a would-be assailant. he needs to resign.
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another "violence against women is no laughing matter." drew hamel "a threat of violence to someone a target of a january 6th assassination attempt from your fellow trump supporters is irresponsible and disgusting." some of these members are calling on leader mccarthy to in fact resign, something that we do not expect him to do, but hallie, the relationship between pelosi and mccarthy was never good, but after january 6th, it has just disintegrated into something where they don't speech to each other. speaker pelosi called him a moron last week and of course you hear the comments from leader mccarthy at this private fund-raising dinner in tennessee on saturday night. so things in the house have become really ugly and leader mccarthy and speaker pelosi are also victims and playing into that as well. >> leigh ann, thank you.
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by the government to fight covid vaccine disinformation and to encourage gen zers to get their shots. check it out. >> hi dr. fauci. how are you doing? >> i'm good. >> is it safe to get a drink or two drinks? >> it's safe to get one drink, two drinks. you're protected by the vaccine. >> thank you very much, dr. fauci. i had a lot of doubts so i'm really clear right now. >> the white house along with state governments enlisted more than 50 people on youtube, tiktok and switch and insta to promote vacciners to millions of followers. in 1956 elvis presley got the polio vaccine on "the ed sullivan show." a little bit of a throw-back pic. here to talk about her new piece taylor lawrence for the "new york times." great to have you on the show. >> thanks for having me. >> great stuff in the piece.
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you point out why this is important. fewer than half of americans between the ages of 18 and 39 are fully vaccinated compared to a lot more, more than two-thirds over 50. we get to live and breathe what's going on, online. talk about the fact the influencers are having on people. >> absolutely. so you mentioned that elvis did his polio example. nowadays kids are much more likely to trust the advice of their famous online star influencer person than traditional celebrities, so they have a very tight relationship with these online influencers. the influencers often share daily things about their life, their health routines what, they're eating, drinking, so for these people to promote vaccines is a big deal and already we're seeing according to data from one vendor boost in vaccination after some of these influencers posts. >> you talked to a lot of them, 30-year-old christina najarre.
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she's been saying as you point out very much on brand with doing some of this, and enlisted to help the government. take a peek at what she's saying with dr. fauci. >> i heard you say 18 to 26 so do you think that i look 26? >> you have the ageless look to you. >> oh, 26. >> you have an ageless look. they're trying to make it feel authentic, right? they have to feel real and true to the brand, if you will. >> exactly it's all about authenticity. some people might watch these videos and think this is so cringy or why are we joking around, this is a serious topic, but that is the point. she always keep it's on brand. >> there is also a little political component about this,
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right? it is obviously spreading on places like tiktok, instagram, and everything else. >> this is where the anti-vax lives have spread most rampantly. people say they're more likely to believe disinformation in some cases. there has been antivax information into it is important to put good information out there and this is very much a positive effort to counter some of that. >> thank you for making time for us on this monday morning. one of every five new cases in florida right now, we talk to two doctors about the growing crisis in their state and why it is getting worse. the stunning new fundraising
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you also have democrats catching up in a game that is usually caught up. both sides raising money from small donors last quarter. an analysis finds those amounts made up 57% from individual people. i want to bring in mark murray. mark i think it is really important and worth noting here that this fundraising haul came in on the back of the big lie, essentially. came in off of donald trump spreading lies about the 2020 election in part, perhaps, because it is lucrative. >> you and i get the same e-mail solicitations saying please send us money.
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and that really ginned up his supporters, but the entire sub text of that is trying to overturn this selection. and it created a big fundraising haul for the former president. there is big limitations on what that money can end up doing. you can spend it on candidates in the midterms. you can do it for your own travel and expenses, but you can't for a presidential campaign. you can't transfer it that way. it is important to note those restrictions. >> here is the former chief of staff to the former president, mark meadows. i want to play for you what he had to say on news max. >> we met with some cabinet members tonight and we would not be meeting tonight if we were not making plans to move forward in a real way with president
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trump at the head of that ticket. >> first, not a cabinet meeting, but if you do have a former president huddling with advisors on what to do with this haul, which he keep it open all he wants and it is sliekly to be used in 2022, et cetera, should that make somebody like liz cheney nervous? in addition to going along with conspiracy theories, money is money and money matters weather you like it or not. >> yes, it is a way you can try to give money to your preferred candidate. it is not like you can drop a million dollars, but it's less
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money when it comes to that. honestly the biggest impact is on endorsements and his ability to campaign in a place rather than check in the thousands of dollars versus those that could be millions or multimillions that come from super packs which this is not. >> so mark, your challenge in two sentences why is tomorrow's primary in ohio, why does it matter? since the texas issue last week since things didn't work out so well last week. what should we know ahead of tomorrow? >> he endorsed mike kerry, a former coal lobbyist in the state. steve steivers endorsed a different candidate. so it is trump's person versus
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an excongressman. >> mark murray, appreciate you, all of you being with us for this monday morning edition of "hallie jackson reports." find us on twitter. right now we turn it over to jose diaz balart. >> good morning. i'm in for craig melvin. it is 11:00 in the east, 8:00 a.m. in the west and there is a lot that we're following for you this morning. we just passed 35 million covid cases. this latest flood of patients is almost entirely unvaccinated. the cdc says that
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