if it is friday, what if i told you that amid a surge from a highly contagious variant 3,000 people were about to cram together with little to no mitigation effects. sturgis is happening in south dakota. we'll have the latest reporting from the white house about that proposal coming up. and president biden addresses the latest jobs numbers as the senate nears the finish line on his trillion dollar infrastructure bill. senator john tester, one of the

architects, will join me. >> welcome to "meet the press daily." as delta surges, as health officials sound the alarm, as hospitals are filling up, brace yourself, america, for a potentially major super spreader event. this weekend more than 100,000 bikers are expected to rumble into south dakota. you are looking at live pictures of sturgis, the ten-day event that has no testing or vaccination requirements. this was the scene last ought. this year's crowds are expected to be bigger after the 2020 round, cases rose and it coincided with a

devastating outbreak. they are concerned that the super spreader event will fuel the delta variant's fire in the united states. cases in many states have already doubled in the last few weeks. and remember, attendees won't be coming from just high risk areas. they will be going back home to them. there is no way of knowing how much received a shot. less than half of adults are fully vaccinated. this rally comes as the bide p administration is struggling to respond to the pandemic's rapid rise. those options include a requirement for funding and funds for more shots. the president spoke out about

it. >> today about 400 people will die because of the delta variant in this country. the tragedy is that nearly all of the deaths were preventable. i put in place new incentives and requirements. >> mike memoli is in delaware. morgan chesky is here. mike, i want to start with you and the news about the next more draconian measure. to me is that just the simplest way for it to take place? universities that take pell grants?

is that what they're thinking here in order to find more ways to mandate vaccines across the country? >> chuck, this is a without that is very reluctant to talk about mandates. they prefer these to come back to businesses from local and state governments. they're very aware of the politics of a fall mandate. but you might consider it to be mandate adjacent, right? it went from carrots, to sticks, to the reverse of unfunded mandates. if you want medicare dollars as a nursing home, influence, there are potentially strings attached. the white house is really stressing these are very early conversation that's are not at all ready to have anything rolling out in the near future, but what it speaks to is something that i have been hearing more from white house officials over the last week in

particular which is very real frustration about the fact that this pandemic is really almost beyond their control, not in the fact of it's spread, but the tools that you can use to confront it, they feel they have done everything pretty much that they can from the federal level. and they're not ducking responsibility, but they field there needs to be shared accountability on the part of ordinary americans, but also especially republicans. that's why you see a cold war becoming hotter in the course of the week between this white house and ron desantis. the president urging governors like him doing things that stop common sense public health options into where there is potential to push back on the idea that this is a president that embraced good news was perhaps too eager to embrace good news to the point where americans went too far when delta was on the horizon i

thought it was interesting what the president said in his remarks today. he said we beat covid-19 and we will beat delta. so almost saying we did accomplish what we said on july 4th, but saying this is a new emergence here. >> i understand that they believe hey, they used every tool they have, and some of their tools are only as strong as state governors will allow them to be, but are they trying everything? right? they went out of their way to find a new angle on the eviction moratorium. they are worried about tapging -- tanking the infrastructure bill. but do they want to get as much as they want to complain about the lak of health from governors

in the south, do they want to get caught trying more even if it comes with short-term political pain considering the long term consequences of not doing enough? >> there is an example of president saying yeah, we're doing this even if we know it won't hold up to buy us some time. they could be doing just short of trying to issue a national vaccine mandate that they don't want to get into at this point. they have been very careful on imposing these kinds of things and they want to see local p governors share political pain. the public is mad at everything right now.

everybody is taking on water if you're an democrat or a republican. >> paint the picture of where you are in texas right now. we know that we have seen spikes there, the hospitalizations. next door in louisiana, morgan, their issue is staff shortage, bed shortages, things like that. what are you seeing on the ground there in text. >> that is why health care professionals are concerned. at last check about 7600 people are hospitalized in the state due to covid-19. hospitals are reentering crisis mode, and all of this without local authorities ability to reinstate any mask mandates or safety measures because of an

check executive order. this is not a car dealership. last week they had a few dozen cars, now they're having crowds all day. >> we're fighting a losing battle. where every you turn you face resistance not only in patients themselves, but in leaders and authority figures. >> she was referring to that mask mandate. what you see now is a ri hit ration of the spread of the virus. police have a mask on when you go indoors. avoiding large public

gatherings. however the big difference is that there is a vaccine. we have seen governor abbot encourage people to get vaccinated, but he is stressing that it is their choice. >> you're right, it looked like a car dealership the way it was going. i have to show this to hour viewers and why i am bringing it up here. you could see this is the cases and look what it did for the rest of the winter. it went from having very few cases to suddenly one or two in the country for a three or four month period. and dr. blackstock, a year ago,

we're talking 100,000 to 200,000 people. now a 3x amount of people going there. will it fuel a surge in the winter that you know won't allow this delta variant to burn out if that is a possibility? >> thank you for having me on, chuck. will say this rally was a bad idea last year and it's even worse this year. this will be exponentially worse than last year. as you just mentioned more people, we have a hyper transmissable variant. they're not tracking to see if people are vaccinated. people will be indoors for part of the rally as well. so this will not end well at all. we know it will be pretty bad and it's just a matter of time before we see the consequences

as well as the fact that many people don't live in the area. they live in the area that's are low vaccination areas. they will be taking the virus to other parts of the country. so we can't use our contact tracing effort. so this will be bad all of the way around. >> look, messaging will not work with some of these folks any more. you know we have been screaming from the top of our links for 150 months now. they view it as they're running out of tools. they think they have done everything they can. do you think they have done everything they can? >> the whole group of people that are still vaccine hesitant, or vaccine reluck tant, i agree the only tool that will push the tool are vaccine mandates.

i believe they need to incentivize more businesses and employers to end those vaccine mandates. i feel like that is the last tool that we can use to increase our vaccination efforts. that is the only way that we're going to get out of this. however in the meantime they're just one tool. masking physical distancing, and i know that the issue is that in many of the areas, like texas, mask mandates are being restricted. so that is the challenge and it is leading to fridges that need to be more responsible. >> okay, i'm going to ask you about new issues. they are likely to be reinfected than those that are fully vaccinated after fully attracting the virus. does that sound right to you?

i have people i know that are close to anyway are convinced, they say i have covid last year i don't need it. >> we keep getting all of this data. they prevent the worst outcomes. and we have data that supports theories that if you're vaccinated and you have been infected it will improve your immune response. so this is just another piece of data urging people even if you have been injected previously you still need be vaccinated. you're twice as high of a risk of being reinfected as someone is vaccinated. you can argue with the data. i think it is really important for people just to take a step back and listen to the experts. listen to the data. you really cannot argue with that. the data is not politically

motivated, right? >> what are you telling anyone that asks dwlu is over the age of 65. we have seen all of the comments about the sixth month efficacy of the vaccines. i have family members asking me. do i wait for the government or should i go get my booster shot now? >> question, can i have a lot of the same friends and family members. i think it is likely by the end of the year that the cdc will be recommending a third vaccination for some people. but the cdc is reviewing that data now. they won't make a decision based on one study, right? we need to wait and see. we don't have over whelming data that says that people are being admitted and dieing at high

rates. i think to answer your question for this, let's wait for the recommendations, wait for data, and i feel like it will be eminent. >> we're having a hard enough time with americans getting first shots that we need. good luck with the second and third shots. >> up next, the president's infrastructure deal nears a finish line in the senate. now comes the hard part thanes to trillions. one of the senate infrastructure bills architects will join me next. later, a climate crisis that seems to be getting worse by the minute. live on the ground, the dixie fire is now the third largest is history. that's how fast this fire is growing. these are the apocalyptic

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welcome back, it did not happen last night, but the senate is still on track to pass bipartisan infrastructure bill. but then comes the difficulty of getting everyone to agrill on the reconciliation package and getting the house progressives to stay on the bipartisan deal. let's check in on leigh ann caldwell. i don't want to get bogged down in their schedule, but walk me through is there anything that could derail this? >> not really, chuck. things last night broke down, but it just slowed down the process. it's not going to stop it or derail it. there is opposition over a

crypto currency. and then one senator objected to how the cbo scored the infrastructure bill. he didn't take into account they think the economy, the economic growth, will help to pay for it. so these objections are not stopping anything. things will pass, it will just take more time. they hoped to wrap up last night, the process will continue on saturday. they need the support of all 100 senators to agree on times of folks. so we'll see but by the end of the weekend it should be wrapped up, but then a lot of americans want to take on that $3.5

million partisan bill. >> there was another story you were scooping us on. they said there would be voting rights bills voted on next week. will that be amendments to the reconciliation package? if it is, forgive me for being cynical, but that has the whiff of press relief votes, not serious legislation. >> yeah, messaging, chuck. whatever they do on the voting rights measures the goal is to get the support of all 50 democrats. so wyle they're working to get the support of senator joe manchin and others, they get the support of 50 democrat that's is great for them. but that still doesn't pass anything because they need the support of 10 republicans. yes senator schumer told senate colleges privately they will

vote on some elements of voting rights before they break but as you laid out the only thing left is finishing up this bipartisan bill, and moving to the human infrastructure bill, that will include that is where senator schumer. >> the debt saling, have they still not made that decision? >> they have not. they are saying they want republicans to have skin in the game and have to vote on it, too. they don't look like it will be in this round, but maybe in the summer or fall we might see it done that way. >> leigh ann, you may get your summer vacation, maybe. >> let me turn now to a

negotiator of the infrastructure deal. senator test ter, god to see you. >> let me start with what you learned from an office, the cost of this and what it adds to the deficit. i'm such a graded washington reporter these days, i saw dollar $256 billion after ten years, that's something change, but that is adding to the deficit. are you really comfortable with the idea of dynamic scoring to make the case that this is paid for? when i'm old enough to remember when democrats were not for dynamic scoring. >> a lot of things that the cpo did not score, they know fully well those dollars are coming in and we have letters that indicate that's what they believe. so i think the amount of debt this creates is zero, quite

frankly based off of, and look, you have been around for a long time. they have different ways of scoring things. will the economy improve and will there be more tax rez knew coming in, if you're able to succeed with better roads and broadband, i think you will see this country's economy grow faster than it has ever grown. or faster than it would have without this infrastructure bill. i think this is a reasonable expectation provided we get this past. and i think it is correct that it may lead into monday, but hopefully we'll get this thing going. >> all right, next, democrats going it alone here on the big reconciliation number. that is a tough number for some

fellow democrats to swallow. but i don't think she is alone here you balked at the side of the number and said maybe we do need it, but how much will we add to the deficit for that? >> i think it will be fully paid for, it needs to be fully paid for, i assume it will be 3.5 trillion. i think that is important, but how it is spent is even more important. if it is wasted. if this gets to the ground to make childcare more affordable. to make sure we take care of our seniors, and deal with climate change, then i think it will be money well spent. but it will be and needs to be paid for for this thing to move

forward. >> you keep your finger to the ground on montana businesses pretty well. how concerned are they about inflation right now? >> they're concerned. and i am, too. i will tell you i talked to a lot of economists about this. they say it is a bump driven by housing and cars and that it will level off as time goes on. the challenge right now is that we're going backwards, moving backwards, on the delta variant into we have more work to do there. so i'm concerned about inflation, but i do agree with the economists. they study this closer than do i, and i think that it is probably driven by houses and cars and i think there is a high possibility that will level off overtime. >> let me talk for a second about covid. could you sell a mandate in

montana. these are individualists. you move to montana not because of party but because you want some space. can you sell a mandate somewhere? >> i don't think we can. i think it is really important that e when courage people to get vaccinated. i think we need to get all hands on deck, but don't think we can sell a mandate in montana. >> you heard the news, if it is coming with the reconciliation package then there is a feeling that it is an amount. what is the reality? how it has been attempted so far looks like it hasn't worked. >> for it to be part of the reconciliation commission, it has to be eligible in the reconciliation bill. i don't know if that will be possible but it might be. what i would see is that it

would be stand alone. and we vote on it and i think that is a very important issue. none the less if in fact it ends up in reconciliation and can stay, i don't have a problem with addressing it there. i think the parliamentarian will have a say on this. i don't know how she would rule, but whatever way she rules -- >> this so-called g 20, those that got together for this, is this a group that could tackle voting rights? it seems like this is the rational wings of all of the parties. however you want to classify that. i'm surely get twitter hate, but could this g 20 put together the voting rights bill? >> i think there is a possibility. we worked on this bipartisan bill for about four months.

and i think that chuck, you know this, it becomes an election year, it gets more crazy, and i just don't know fe there is a time of a group of 10 or 20 people could pound this out. i think everybody out there likes to see infrastructure, it's just how you are going to pay for it and low it be spend on. so it takes some time. >> yeah, it is let's not get too excited about partisanship, everyone likes to spend once in awhile. it's taking it away or messing with elections is when it gets difference. senator tester, hopefully you'll get back to montana one of these days. >> thank you, that would be nice. >> one of the largest wildfires in united states history. coming up, a new general

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it is leading a path of construction in it's wake. it is now the third largest fire in california's history. yesterday on the air we said it was the eighth largest. this morning, it was the sixth largest, now it is the third largest. it devastated entire towns. you're seeing greenville, california here. it was a small mountain town in the path of this fire. it ripped through everything. the first answer of what is there is is this over for greenville? what do the residents do? they evacuated but what now? >> they were evacuated and they have not returned. this entire town is still under a cloud of ash.

so there is ash everywhere. you see it on my finger, that is the ash following and continues to fall. here is one of the few remaining walls. this used to be the postoffice. a few steps in this direction, complete def sags. the entire post office burned. you have vehicles, everything that people left behind. the only things that stands for some of these moments is chimneys. there is very few buildings that survived. you mentioned it is the third largest fire in california history, but now this is also the largest burning fire in the country. so that is how bad it is and let's remember that all of the west right now is experiencing a drought.

85% under extreme drought conditions and this made the firefighters job more difficult. the last number we received here is that 1400 structures remain affected by the fire. >> no one will be upset if you put your mask on. i don't think anyone has any issues there. let me ask you this here. and that is, what is, where are we on the containment issue. i think yesterday it was only 35% contained. what do officials say today? >> it was the last number that we got on this flier, but one of the things we have to look at, and a lot of us that cover these fires, to understand how they are being dealt with, is they're building a fire around it.

at the same time they're also fighting the fires. two things happening at the same time. right now they tell us they fighting to protect the remaining structured in this hair. there is 13,000 structures that remain threatened. they're trying to contain it, it was at 35% last time they checked it. please stay safe and healthy out there as best as you can. >> up next we have the latest july jobs numbers, but the delta variant is looking really bad and these numbers could be a lagging indicator. what it could mean, next. g indi. what it could mean, next

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while we're far from complete and we'll have ups and downs along the way as we continue to battle the delta surge of covid, what is indisputable now is this. the biden plan is working. the biden plan produces results, and the biden plan is moving the country forward. >> welcome back. that was president biden a few hours ago making it clear he believes this is the biden economy. he showed the economy hadding an impressive 943,000 jobs last month. brought the unemployment rate down, but it does not include data from the end of july because that is always the way it works and the data variant, of course, led to new restrictions and lockdowns. so despite the good numbers, wages are growing at a slower rate there. let me bring in austin who is

professor at the university of chicago. this appears to be unequivocally an impressive jobs report. how concerned are you about a but here. you know it is july 1 through july 15. >> yeah, that is a big but. if you take the last -- we have been talking about jobs numbers for a long time, you and i, and two months with 940,000 jobs, that is about the best two month months to ever happen. and this you want to be just thrilled or over joyed, but as i said from the beginning, the vie us have a boss, if any, it

started ranging out of control, i think there is fears that we have to keep an eye on for the next month or two. >> let me put a but to the but. a year ago the reason we lost a bunch of jobs is that the jobs were a lot of service industry jobs. they're the last jobs to come back and they still have not come back. and with corporate america wants to stay in business, is it possible that the delta variant, as bad as the surge is, that it doesn't have the same kpik impact? >> yeah, i don't think it will have the bite that we had in march or april of last year that were epicly the worst months in the history of the american job market. i think it would be more like if you remember november, december,

jan of last year going into this year we got ourselves familiar with the virus, but as it surged you saw the jobs numbers deteriorate and go negative. so that being the downside scenario. not like the trough, but a mini trough. that said, we don't have -- this is in our control. we can prevent it from raging back in control where they were able to diminishle raging of the virus. people want to get back to work. they want to get over their supply chain problems. >> let me ask you, you're not concerned yet about inflation, but you brought up something on

the supply chain issues. let's look at housing here for a minute, right? we have a very tight inventory on housing. part of that is a supply chain issue. part of that is that we're just behind on housing. we have seen it hit all over and for some people it is good news, right? it is producing new wealth. how does that inflation slow down? that feels like af fulfilling thing. if the housing market keeps inflating, how does inflation overall slow down? >> yeah, it, in a way, is kind of the circular argument. if the prices keep going up, how do you stop the prices from going up. if they kept going up you wouldn't. i have been on team temporary, is if you look at the inflation, it is very highly concentrated

on a few sectors. cars going crazy. the different kinds of reopening of businesses, air fares, stuff like that. so hopefully once we just get back to normal, it will be like the toilet paper shortage at the beginning of this thing where there was a few month period where everybody is freaking out, but once they got the victories ramped back up, the inflation stopped. we certainly want that to be true if it keeps going in housing we're in a whole different space. >> are the vaccine mandates something that may end up forcing -- will they reward companies with mandates and those that done? >> yeah, it is kind of fascinating that you tlad you're

seeing a lot of major corporate employers saying we're just going to require our employees to get vaccinated, and it is the case, i don't know if it is the psychologists, but some die hards say i just don't want a vaccine of any kind. but a lot of the people that are unvaccinated are weighing the costs and the benefits. if you can't go to a restaurant, or fly, you may go get the vaccine. >> i think the nfl, they seem to be having some impact. players are saying i felt forced to get the vaccine. that's how mandates work. austin, thank you for coming on and sharing were perspective. >> coming up new and major developments for governor cuomo. .

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the general attorney's office. and so in james' report the staffer is accusing the governor of kissing and making comments of her personal report, and if they lead this to be credible enough, it could lead to the arrest of the governor, and he has not been charged with any crime, and he responded to the complaint saying that previously, we proactively made a referral four months ago. and so to unpack this a little bit is the nbc investigations correspondent tom winter. so tom, you can see the words "could lead to the arrest" and how serious is this? how concerned should the governor be on a personal basis? >> perhaps quite concerned, chuck. i think that when you are looking at the a.g.'s report that you referenced in this executive assistant number one,

and i will read you a key line from it where the investigators behind the report wrote that they found her to be credible both in demeanor and in the substance of her allegations. they also wrote that governor cuomo denied a number of executive assistant number one's allegati allegations, but they lacked persuasiveness, and were not consistent with the number one witness and other women, and he also said in that is statement that quote, that never happened, but this behavior involving the executive assistant apparently started late in 2019, and started out with the jokes being made, and started out with the commenting being made, and jokes at least from the governor's perspective, but, statements that were also made about whether or not she would ever cheat on a boyfriend or husband and of course, the key allegation in the one that could

lead to his arrest coming in november of 2020 when he allegedly put his hand under her shirt and groped her breast, chuck. >> and one would wonder if the attorney general pursues this further, do they interview the governor? >> so this is a little different thing, because the attorney general's report is civil matter, and the investigation is authorized and asked for the senior officer beth garvey who has since left, but in this investigation, he could speak before a grand jury, and maybe they will offer him to come n but since it is criminal, he does not have to cooperate in any shape or form, and so we will have to see how it progresses, and if he wants to take the risk of speaking before the investigators before the district attorney's office or the sheriff's offers and that is something that we have to watch, and they have more work to do, and interestingly, chuck, one of

the women that she told is an fbi employee and maybe an fbi special agent, and we are trying to figure this out, so a lot of moving parts to this, but it is serious. >> we will have to hear what the lawyers have to say in about a half hour. thank you, tom winter. okay. before we go, update from tokyo. the olympic international committee has taken two actions against the coaches of belarus, and this is after a sprinter defected and sought refuge in japan after she felt that two coaches forcibly tried to return her to belarus, and now she is in poland and she said to reuters that the orders came from high up, and this is from the leader lukashenko, and this

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