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long as the government's not paying for it, you know, i don't know. >> fair. >> straight forward. we will have is you back to debate all of this. we ended up a doing a lot of transportation tonight, i don't know why that's how it happened. i appreciate you both having fun with usot on a friday. the new season again, god father of harlem premiers on sunday. you know you like him check it out and vicki ward, great to have you. that does it for us, one more programming note, i will be in fori rachel maddow on tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern. have a great weekend. keep it locked right now, 88 the reid out" with joy reid starts right now. you know why you were talking transportation? >> because it's infrastructure a week.s it's been infrastructure week forever and ever. get ready. get ready for the 9:00.e it's a lot of research. all right. see ya later. bye. good evening everybody.
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tgif to all of us. we begin "the reid out" with a first lady, namely the late greatly eleanor roosevelt. who's husband contracted a paralying disease, polio, for which there was no vaccine.er to which he said, with freedom comes responsibility. in the face of a vaccine, many american-s want thene freedom, t not the responsibility and primary freedom they want is the freedom to be stupid. take a lookee at the map. the devastating map. blood red with covid. or take a look at the child, 9 years old and hospitalized with covidiz fighting for her life. these images do not matter to the millions americans who are refusing the medical breakthrough miracle knownic as thebr covid vaccine. they areth turning up their nos at it. claiming, they are doing their own research. mostly on facebook and tiktok.
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so they know better than the scientists and doctors. it's plainly stupid. but then again, look at who theirin leaders are. starting of course with the mad queen of the gqp, margie green. >> i hearer alabama might be one of the most unvaccinated states in the nation. [ cheers and applause ] well joe biden wants to n come l talk to you guys. he is going to be sending one of his police state friends to your front door to knock on the door that. yeah, well, what they don't know is that in the t south we all le our second amendment rights. and we are not really boig strangerswe showing up on our front doors, are we? >> this is an event, apparently a stupid and guns event, media were not allowed in. could it be that she threatened to shoot public health workers? just a thought.
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we have madison quathorn, equating masks to child abuse in a school board meeting. >> you have muzzeled the voices like our children. youli have passed a mask mandat youte knew it would not withsta the scrutiny of the public. i have witnessed swampy bureaucrats. >> they are retooling the party around vaccine refusal. the right to life party that loves to tell people to live, is championing the right to die anh along with it, the right to take innocent people with them. bywi spreading the virus to the parents and neighbors and babies and straungers in the walmart. this party has blood all over its happeneds. it's homicideal and their
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constituents are sipping on the jones town kool-aid. >> we are going to be living with people dying if we do not increase the n vaccination ratei i still need to get the message out. >>e me what's in the vaccine. give me the -- >> if you believe covid is real? >> i believe there's people illnesses. i'm not quite sure what covid is. >> this is an experimental vaccine. itri that has not been tested lg enough. i'm a nurse. ia am very concerned about the long-term side affects. >> what will save lives and it's not the vaccine? >> what's in the vaccine? what is in froot loops. you seat that, you put that in your body. that is right, they will not listen to theirth republican governors. tore public health officials with public healthal degrees.li no, no, no, they listen only to tucker karlsson and the self is appointed experts in their facebook conspiracy groups and theiry latest trick is
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championing a new cure for covid-19 to just getting the vaccine. a anti-parasetic drug, seriously, but because human doses of the drugs are hard to come by, people are now raiding supplies use autoed for horses and consuming it as wait for it, just wait. horse paste. ah yes, horse paste, packed with apple flavor along with sleep drench and swine injections, anything, anything but the logical simple step of taking the free shot because we are the stupid country. joining me now is covid medical housing works in new york city. and david jolly, former republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with the party and thank god for it. dr. roy, i guess my opening tonight is a signifier of where
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i s am with this virus. w i am, you know, we started with compassion for those who, you know, who were afraid of the fr vaccine. i was nervous aboutai the vacci when trump was president, because he is a psycho path. and i didn't want him rushing it out to get re-elected, i had friendsed nervous about it and god mother was nervous about it once it was explained how the vaccine came about, where pfizer and moderna came from, once i understood who developed it, once i got information from experts i wasro convinced and convinced other people. but there's ace whole group of people who don't want to be 't convinced, and i wonder how frustrating it is for you, as somebody who has family in a country as iyo do, where covid running rampit outside of the united states to say, you what? why want it, i did research on
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tiktok. how frustrating is that for you? >> first of all, you look great, joy after vacation. >> thank you. >> to no words to really, really accurately describe the frustration, the anger that many of my fellow front line health care colleagues feel right now. you know, yogibaera knew, that the cases would be 100,000 ka cs a da it's preventible. we are iny. a different, much better place than in august 2020. we have multiple vaccine candidates. vaccines that are highly effectivein at reducing the transmission of this virus that we know is deadly. we are still learning about it
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every day. we know that the vaccines are effective. and a common pushback i am sure you pheard, joy, god knows i heard it people and my own patient-s will say, i heard that testimony vaccines don't work, and i know people vaccinated and they still got the disease. and they are right. it goes back to communication. acknowledging, hearing people out andle energying what is tru but thenat explaining it, going step further. and the reality is, that no preventive measure is 100% effective. it's like saying, oh, well, people who wear seat belts still get in the accident. people wearing sunscreen, still get cancer. dot we stop wearing seat belts and sunscreen? no, but these vaccines are effectivity a reviewsing severe disease,si and death. and hospitalization.
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we have to battle lies with truth and facts. >> the people that know people who have beenth vaccinated and still got covid, is because they are still alive. they lived to tell you. this is not complicated. do you want to be alive? get the dang on vaccine. i don't know what half the crap you put in your body. you take medicines that your doctor prescribes to you and say, what p is in this? i don't know, do i want to take it? what is in it? you don't ask, you just take it. i'm sorry, i'm frustrated. let's go to you, david. >> keep going. keep going. >> i'm ranting it's friday. you wrote the following, our fo failure, in terms of the vaccin, and getting people to take it is root t radioed-- is rooted deep. our choice is framed as a sacrosanct freedom or a gesture that promotes the public welfare. i get that the republicans hate the idea of public welfare, the that mean you have to die to own
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to live? is that what we are doing here? >> that's the difference of this moment, of this generation and generation's past.s in generations past, we could accept personal freedom and sacrifice for the greater public good. actually, out of narratives of patriotism that we would exercise our freedom with responsibilitity. but what we have done in theit pandemic ise a result of political leadership,su is republicans that framed this as ame matter of personal freedom,n contest with the patriotic duty. and they don't see the two ever working together. and unfortunately, the conclusion of what i write is actually, that there are no more persuadables in the campaign to get people vaccinated. as the biden administration announces we have passed 50%, i think we are quickly hitting thh ceiling. and all of the sounds you showed, all the video you showed joy. i say it not with hyperbole with
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la meant, where is the health oa the nation when only half gets vaccinated and half does not. what doesat it mean for the personal health and families? persuadables. if you take off in the car and listen to drive time radio, me are not persuadable citizens, they are resolute and will not get the vaccine. does it mean for those who have? >> you are t right and at this point, my only, my compassion is more direct ready toward those who arey afraid of the vaccine for whatever reason. and just need information. people i have known -- i know people like this, who are nervous and need a doctor to tell d them, it's okay. i but the people that are like, this is my politics, good, good luck to you.o biden is trying something new, dr. roy, which i think is late, honestly. they are talking about trying to
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make it required. using threat of holding federal funds from institutions. it has been done with highway funds, for states that did not lower their speed limit to 55. this has been dobb before. do youdo think we have to stop bribing americans with million dollar lotteries and saying if you don't get the vaccine, you can't come to the party, can't go to theth gym. can't go to the restaurant. good luck to tyou, stay your a home? >> you know, joy, back when the vaccines firsthe came out like, december, january, early on. where there's a lot of focus on making sure we address vaccine hesitatency, and were mindful of vulnerable groups who were mistreated, all of the completely legitimate. i believe it was the right thing to wait several months to do aggressive education and targeted education and just listening out to these vulnerablese communities. racially mistreated for deck
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aweds. that was the right thing to do. >> yes. >> and o the communities have come c around and are vaccinate. once you gave them the opportunity to share their concerns, theirit worries. i do it every day.ev as you know, joy, once a week, i work at the heart reduction the bronx, i'm treating them for opioid addiction, and i ask, did youd get the vaccine? and a third of them have, the vast majority will say, it's not safe, it'st' dangerous and i si down and i explain point by point, every concern they have. and why theyon should get it. why s i got it. what my experience was getting it. why i made sure my mom and dad were in the 70 and 80s got it. why would i encourage what i am not doing. i practice what i preach. and that marts. >> what is in coca-cola, you
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know, you y can clean your engi with it. you don't say, what is in it? you don't ask. the world is struggling to get vaccinated. some americans have to be swayed by a wad of cash, prizes and some are turning up their noses at vaccines all together. less than 2% of those living have been vaccinated and not by choice. b joining me on the phone is sandra lyndsay, a nurse on the long island medical center, the first to receive the coronavirus vaccine back in december. joining us from you can't make uka, where 4% of the population is 4 fully vaccinate. thank you for being here. i came from jamaica, and what i noticed hathere, is that people were very vigilant about covid. you could not walk in to an indoor venue without putting out your handing and getting a squirt of hand sanitizer in one and the temperature check in th other. they don't have ak margin for error i want to put up a map, i don't know where a we are with
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this. you had issues with the feed. the caribbean is not he want ready. only 4.1% of jamaicans have gotten the vaccine. in africa, 5.5%. people around the world desperately want this vaccine it.they can't get talk to us about what is happen engine jamaica? >> hello, joy. thanks for having me on. it's great to be home. so, whatbe is happen engine jamaica? first of all, i just want to say that the government has been doing quite well in managing the pandemic given the circumstances. as you have put up on the n screen, we have about 4.1% of our population vaccinated. can and that has been related to the competition around the world at getting vaccines and supplies here. but, i'm happy to say that we now haveat vaccines on the isla and so, the government is
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working feverishly to get the vaccines in arms. doing all different strategies. mobile units. etcetera. ut my experience has been, like yours, i could not enter any business place, no mart where without putting my arms out, to get temperature checked and also to get a dab of hand sanitizer. >> that's right. >> and that's been consistent across the island. >> and can i ask you before i have to let will you go, do you have people in jamaica saying no thank you. i don't want the vaccine? or are people saying let me get. i spoke with a family from africa that all came from covid, said they want the vaccine, and would have taken it if they could have gotten it.
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>> we have a large of people that want to take it. there's hesitating, like around the world, there's those hesitating here, we are ememploying different strategies to get people comfortable with o trusting the vaccines are safe. i'm on vacation.i' but i'm lending my voice to help my country to get the word out that the vaccines are safe is and effective. we have done quite well in listening to the evidence, and managing balancing the lives and livelihoods. the government has done a good job with that. so, ith could not come here without lend willing my voice to let people know that the vaccines are safeth and effecti. i must say that we are waiting for more vaccines. we have been promised them from the united states. and so, we are waiting on president biden to fulfill his promise and dnate vaccines.
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>> i hope they send all the vaccines from all the states that say alno thank you, send tm to jamaica. want them and they will actually not have to be bribed to take hthem. and i will remind you, ms. sandra, youyo worked in the hospital, the hospital that you work in is the same one that my husband's grandmother retired from working. youd are close to my heart. she is also from jamaica. thank you, appreciate you. thank you everyone. up next, trump's pattern of abuse from ukraine to the big lie. lieutenant counselor alexander vindman saw it up close and joins me next and the missouri governor finds it's in his heart to pardon the mcclusky's who admitted guilt and no pardon for a black man who has sent spent years behind bars is almost certainly innocent. a breaking scandal in
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backed loyalist was intent on asking six states to take steps to nullify joe biden's victory. those abuses are among the reason that former u.s. attorney and other legal scholars are calling on the justice department to have an investigation in his dangerous conduct. he pursued the same goal using the same tactics when he leveraged ukraine to smear his opponent. there was zero evidence to support his false claims of corruption. in both cases he was calling for a sham investigation to stay in power by destroying the opposition is. in both cases he sought a public announcement to legitimatize his false claims. a declaration of corruption election from the doj and an announcement of investigation of joe biden from ukraine. i'm joined by a key witness,
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retired army lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. and with us, is barbara mcquaid, former u.s. tomorrow and michigan law professor. i hope you can hear me, lieutenant colonel vindman. i hear a bit of feedback in my audio. hopefully you can hear me. you talk about the fact that when you heard this call, with the ukrainian president, you immediately knew it was an impeachable offense. talk a little bit about that. >> that's right, thank you for having is me on, first of all. it's interesting from the very beginning although it seems to me that president trump was surprised he was president. he was unready to govern. he was looking forward for the next opportunity to continue his enterprise and continue to profit off of his office and i witnessed that first hand in my
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tenure at the white house on the national security council when he attempted to steal the election very early on and what we are witnessing is a continued enterprise. in my case, i heard the phone call, to me it was apparent to find dirt on joe biden so he could, first of all, under mine his ability to run, and to tarnish him before he was a candidate, an opponent in the primary elections. >> as someone who is obviously in the united states military and sat on the u.s. security kouchblt we are seeing the love affair with the people on the right, with victor orban of hungary, and trump being enamored with putin and the north korean dictator.
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did you notice that trump was more like those far right leaders or did it take a while for it to sink in? >> it took a little while. frankly, i knew that he had some strong tendencies. but i was joining an administration, in my view, that was going to fulfill policy that advanced u.s. national security interests. we actually did some pretty good work, we drafted a document of a national security strategy with a russian component to it and we implemented large portions of it. the problem is, the president's direct involvement too often derailed the strategy that we had in place to advance u.s. national security interests. it was the president, and president's proxies that were acting unamerican that were under mining it directly. let me go to you on this, barbara. the thing that donald trump, the things he did through his administration, i objected to every one of them.
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the thing he did at the end in trying to keep himself in power by perverting the systems of government over which he had charge. in terms of perverting the justice department, every lever of the government, that is the most sort of like putinesque move. if there's no legal conquestions, what happens. the piece that you referenced earlier, i think the justice department goes after -- the conduct is egregious. to begin an investigation because of the severe nature of the alleged crime here, trying
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to subvert the outcome of a fair and free eelection. our democracy was about power to the people and self governance and if that election of the people can be subverted we have destroyed our democracy. >> the risk you took, you are like myself the son of immigrants the child of immigrants. your father who immigrate friday that part of the world, he was reluctant for you to come forward because he feared retribution against you and the consequences. talk about trying to convince him that it's a different kind of country? because i think that's the question we are having now. are we a different kind of country than a hungary or a russia? if we don't do, you know, stop ourselves from sliding? >> we are if we want it to be a different kind of country. we are a country where right matters but only if we make it matter. i think for my dad, he was responding viscerally to 47
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years in the soviet union and assessing the risk to me. he actually, you know, correctly judged that i would loods my military career. in another regard he was not accurate. it's the fact that we have amazing silver servants that were checked against a presidential over reach. that is frankly in my book, the president is a bit of a foyle, he is a way to over come challenge this is in that he is corrupt and there's plenty of people that are not corrupt that are trying to do the right thing that are trying to advance u.s. national security interests. it's not a deep state looking to under mine a president that governs properly, this is a person that is very eradict, does not provide guidance and when he does, it's by tweet and therefore, most often times it's damage control. that's what the government under the last four years, in the previous administration was like. >> and you know, barbara you
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know, it occurs to me, we have a belief that there's a permanent democracy and no country has that. i go back to victor orban because he is the new play thing and chachki of tucker carlson who did a interview that one said gave a deeply unsettling glimpse in to the true nature of the auth on oritarian future. >> we have an example that somebody, or a country, which is based on traditional values, on national identity, based on tradition of christianity could be successful or sometimes even more successful than a leftist liberal government. >> orban announced that he will be president for life for the next 20 years. i wonder if you can have a conversation with our next attorney general that seems reluctant to use the power that he has to hold the former
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president to account. what i fear is that trump becomes the next orban, he finds a way to manipulate the republican who is are in power and doing his bidding so that the next time he tries the coop it works and the next time he is in we cannot get rid of him. what do you say to the current leader of the justice department about the assistance of him saying that he wants to be too careful and not touch the former president for whatever reason? >> well, first, i guess i would say, we don't know what is going on internally at the justice department. it may well be that they are investigating but they are doing it under the normal procedures where you would keep those pending investigations quiet. so, maybe it's possible. but if not, and he is still deciding whether it's necessary to bring charges, i think we have to think about the very significant harm that president trump came very, very close to committing and could commit again. one of the purposes of criminal prosecution is not only punishment and public safety but also deterrence. and if president trump feels
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that he got away with, this who is to say he will not try it again or others will not try to get away with it again. i'm grateful for people like colonel vindman who showed integrity and there were others that perhaps following his leads also had courage and integrity in acting attorney general rosen and his deputy, richard done a hurks and how about jeffrey clark who was ready to be the henchman for donald trump, next time, it may be that we have more clarks than rosens or vindmans. i think we need to take a strong stand that it's a crime against the united states and certainly we need to make sure that the evidence is there, but prosecutors always deal with, number one, can we charge based on the evidence, but number two, should we charge? is there a substantial federal interest that needs to be vindicated and i can think of no interest than our democracy. >> there's more clarks already. and the vindmans have been purged, including yourself.
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♪ ♪ family, i want to introduce you to missouri governor mike parson. he is a mostly forgettable and mediocre republican governor who originally lucked in to his job after the former guy quit amid sexual misconduct allegations. parson, a trump lackey and covid enabler currently has tremendous power to pardon whoever he wants. according to the kansas city star. he has been issuing pardons on a monthly bases to clear a backlog of cases that accumulated from previous administrations. now, let me introduce you to kevin strickland. a 62-year-old man who has spent the majority of his life, 40 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit. his conviction was built on the testimony of the one witness who later recanted and the men who
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were involved in the murder said he was not involved and named an alternative suspect. the prosecutor declared publically that strickland was innocent and deserves to be exonerated. now, most of you at home think i'm about to tell you that governor par son pardoned kevin strickland. nope. why? parson told reporters that strickland's circumstances did not necessarily make it a priority to jump in front of the line. you know who did jump in front of the line? these two, mark and patricia mccloskey, they got a vip pardon on, they pleaded goodwill for waving weapons at peaceful protesters who dared walk past their ugly ass house on their way to demonstrate after george floyd's murder. i guess that was too much of an injustices for governor parsons to stomach. the travesty, but meanwhile, an
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innocent black man stays locked up. thank you for being here. and let me just go through the facts of the case if you could. just walk us through why mr. strickland is in prison. >> yeah, so this case goes all the way back to 1978, it's a horrific, gruesome crime, four individuals go in to a home where there's four people. they shoot them all, three of them die and one of them survives. that woman, the victim cynthia douglas flees and describes, the few days later. the way we know how -- she
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identifies him and the evidence, fast forward. one of the people, the victim names, he is required to give a detail at what point in the crime, he is does. he said what happened and names all four individuals who came in and committed the crime with him, including two people that were previously unknown and said, kevin strickland is innocent and so, that's all the way back in 1979. it's been solid since 1979 and no one has done anything. in 2009, the victim was trying to recant her testimony, and reached out to our office and she has since passed away. as you see the prosecutor has looked at it and everyone has looked at it as a solved crime.
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we know who committed the crime and kevin strickland is innocent. >> the governor claims he does not believe he is nchblt he doesn't know if he is innocent and he doesn't know. but the prosecutor, to be clear, the prosecutor said he is innocent. right? the prosecutor asked for independent review from the u.s. attorney's office, the western district. offering the case to the board of police commissioners. said they did not interfere with his release. a inspect of people looked at it and agree he is innocent. >> what happens now, is there a chance now that he has been denied a pardon. and is there a chance he can be released? at any time the governor still could pardon him and we hope he will. that is surely the faeft way then he would not have to spend another day in prison. but we have also filed what is called a petition for habias corpus, he is being held unconstitutionally and release him. we have a hearing scheduled on that in november.
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it's complicated, because in missouri we are not sure if innocence is a claim to get out of prison unless you are sentenced to death, it's a crazy thing to say, but it's the state of the law in missouri. and another person who is proven wrongfully convicted, that went all the way up and back down at the supreme court said the prosecutors did not have the ability to correct an injustice the legislaation passed a new law and they will have the ability to file a judgment and overturning of the conviction. >> we will keep an eye on this case. we are out of time, but can you the tell us how is he doing? how is he holding you up under this, quickly? >> he is doing, you know, remarkably well and it actually means so much to him that the
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world has seen and known and acknowledged that he is innocent. he has been saying it for 43 years and no one believed him until now. >> we believe him. absolutely. well, this audience believes him and will want to know how he fares, thank you for spending time with us and give him our regards and we are praying for him. still ahead, texas kboncher greg abbott announces another special suppression session and election officials in georgia, trying to purge people from the roles, most of color, of course.urse , so you only pay for what you need. [ nautical horn blows ] i mean just because you look like someone else doesn't mean you eat off the floor, or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. oh, yeah. that's the spot.
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56 years ago today, a texas democrat enacted the most significant protection from voting rights in american history. as president johnson struck a fatal blow to jim crow voting.
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the republican texas governor is putting them on an express train to jim crow 2.0, the texas democrats have know camped out in washington for three weeks. texas democratic chair said they are committed to defeating the legislation. i'm joined by my panel. thank you both for being here. i have to ask you, how it feels for you to be camped out in washington, d.c. with your family, trying stop voter suppression in your state, while some democratic lawmakers are partying on joe manchin's boat with republicans and acting as
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if everything is all one big party. how do you feel about that? >> you know, this past month has not been easy. we have been away from our teams, away from our livelihoods, away from our colleagues but we did it because this fight is a generational fight is to save democracy. thes act into law. he signed it because he believed all of us should have access to our american democracy, not just folks who look like me. we have achieved an enormous victory today. this is the last day of the special session in texas. we've killed the voter suppression bill by commitsing ourselves to the cause of democracy. i couldn't be prouder of my 56 colleagues and what we've achieved together. >> have any of those texas democrats -- those d.c. democrats on the boat, have they come to talk to y'all?
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are they spending as much time with you as they are on the boat? >> we're here on a work trip. we're focused on pushing voting rights legislation. i mentioned to you at the beginning of this quorum break that i'm doing my job. i swore a sacred oath in front of god and my constituents to up hold the constitution and not to uphold greg abbott's extreme political agenda. i may not be at my desk at the texas capitol but i'm doing a job that i swore an oath to do. >> you would not take my opportunity to insult those on the boat. i told you, you were not intended to be on tonight. you were doing your own thing and i was like can you come on tonight. while texas is the bad news is coming, in georgia it's already here. the suppression is already ongoing and it is on a thousand today. 185,000 people about to be
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perged, 45% nonwhite, people of the dear and wonderfulerly evers wrote an op ed crying out for voting rights in twunltd. that's on seen this she had to do that but she had to do that. talk to us about what's happening in georgia. >> there's a couple of things i want to raise because today is the 56th anniversary. when you look at black voters, we have less voting rights protection now in 2021 than we had on the signage of the voting rights act. that in itself should be grappling to people. what's happening in georgia and what we're seeing in texas and 20 other bills that are being passed we're not talking about the damage in the future. it's happening right now. >> that's right. >> 185,000 people are being perged from the voters list. we're also seeing the republicans literally use this sb 202 when they can weapon nice
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the administrative process to exclude people from the election boards that they don't like, in case they have an election they don't like, they can do exactly what trump wanted, to overturn the election. we're seeing this happen all over the country. there is no way around this without really dealing with voting rights. we're going to have to have the kind of bold leadership -- i was reading about how johnson did it. that at the end of the day, he actually pulled in -- it was a civil rights bill help pulled in a senator from georgia and said, you're going to pass this. we're going to pass this bill. he did the same thing with calling governor george wallace from alabama in. the bottom line is we need stronger leadership particularly around the white house saying i need for bind -- a couple of things -- three things.
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one, we need to recess to not end. we need to find time to make sure that they do not leave d.c. without passing comprehensive voting rights legislation that will protect the voters in this country. the second thing is we need the full weight on president biden's office just as johnson used not only the bully pulpit but he was very adamant about this is going to get passed and he used the full weight of his office to get that to happen. we need biden to do that. we need for the people at and the john lewis voter act so we're not in a place about restoring the voting rights act or 1965 but we're restoring it and creating a stronger way for people of color to have access to the ballot. >> you were on the view. they were defending the filibuster.
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your thoughts on her feelings. >> the filibuster has always been used. she knows that, the history of that. aside from that, even if there was some attachment to the filibuster, are you saying, in fact, that the filibuster is a tool that is more important than voting rights in this country, that are you, in fact, saying, alluding to is there's more of a sense of loyalty to a tune that's been used to disep franchise black voters than actually literally supporting what they took an oath to do and that is to protect democracy in this nation. >> hopefully the tvs are still on in the capitol. it is the most important fight, this and and covid are the two things we've got to deal with. thank you for all that you do. your moment of joy, believe it or not, we're going to find one today. it's still healed. an incredible homecoming today.
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