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including 39 gold medals. still something to be proud of. china and the russian olympic round out the top three. tokyo held the closing ceremony in a nearly empty stadium and extinguished the olympic games. paris will host the next summer games. the city held packed hand over ceremony with a military flyover. good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. developing this hour, explosive new details on the plot to keep trump in power. we're learning the senate judiciary committee has ber viewed former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and richard donahue as part of the investigation as to whether the former president was trying to
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enlist the department of justice to help in his effort to over turn the 2020 election result pps the chairman of that committee dick durbin revealing what they learned from rosen's testimony yesterday. >> what was the most shocking to you? >> how directly, personally involved the president wads involved. the pressure he was putting on jeffrey rosen. it was real and specific. this president is not subtle when he wants something. i think it's a good thing for america that we had the person like rosen in that position who withstood the pressure. >> the senate is back in session today as they work to pass that $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. democratic senators expressing today they believe they will get the votes but some republicans pushing back in opposition. >> i think it was very clear we had 18 senators on the
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republican side who joined us in closing debate. two others said they would do so but they were absent. we have pretty strong support, strong bipartisan support. >> pelosi said all along she will not allow this bill to go through the house unless they get their $5.5 trillion reckless tax spending bill done at the same time. if you help get this done, you're helping get the 5.5 trillion bill done. disturbing new numbers emerging from the coronavirus pandemic as all 50 states are now seeing a rise in new cases. more than half are experiencing at least a 100% increase in infections in the past two weeks. today dr. anthony fauci giving a new warning of how much more dangerous this can get if people don't take action to get vaccinated now. >> if you give the virus a chance to continue to change, you're leading to a vulnerability that we might get
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a worse variant and that will impact the unvaccinated, that will impact the vaccinated. people who are unvaccinated should think about their own health and the community responsibility to crush this virus before it becomes even worse. >> we're going to go beyond the headlines now with mike in delaware. you know the president and his administration and allies well. do you think they are saying we got you more vaccines. we got you a good jobs report, it's up to you guys now? are they sitting back and thinking what more can we do? >> there is an incredible amount of frustration and concern as they look at the delta variant and what it's meant for case load in the country and hospitalizations in the deep south where the vaccination rate is far lower.
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this is the 200th day of the biden administration. it might have snuck up on you but the challenge this administration is facing on day 200 that they face on day one. the covid-19 pandemic now. the nature of that challenge has changed significantly from day one when the challenge was getting the vaccine out, having enough supply for americans to now having more supply than they really need in terms of demand of trying to convince those who have been reluctant to get the vaccine to get it. you heard over and over again, this administration stressed this is now pandemic of the unvaccinated. you have more than 70% of adults have finally gotten one dose of the vaccine but getting further up in terms of the percentage of all adults has been a real, real challenge. what the administration has been trying to do is offer incentury tents and there's been talk of a mandate potentially at the local level, certainly if administration officials stressing it would not come at the federal level. you did hear dr. anthony fauci talk about what it would mean to
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have fda approval ov these vaccines. we're in emergency use authorization and whether that might have factor in leading to some more mandates at the local level. take a listen to ha he had to say about that. >> i hope, i hope, i don't predict, but i hope it will be within the next few weeks. i hope it's within the month of august. if that's the case, you're going to see the empowerment of local enterprises giving mandates. that you would say could be colleges, universities, places of business, whole varieties. i support that. the time has come is we got to go the extra step to get people vaccinated. >> there's also been a number of questions about booster shots and whether americans would need those. at the moment dr. fauci said it appears the vaccine remains effective even six months later for americans against the delta
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variant. he did say as time goes by, it's likely and they were closely tracking its effectiveness and if it's determined there might be the need for it, he said the prioritization should be elderly americans but it will be enough supply. >> thank you. we want to go now to stephanie who is at a testing site in orlando. stephanie, we know florida, the epicenter right now of this covid surge fuel bid the delta variant. when i talked to you early this morning, stephanie, i was shocked because the place had been open for 20 minutes and already 20 cars had shown up. >> reporter: indeed. i'm here at a testing site at barnett park. we're west of the city of orlando and with the surge in coronavirus cases here in the area, officials had to open a second testing site. take a look at what is happening behind me. you can see test going on now. it's ban steady stream of cars all day long. this is nothing like what they
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saw here on friday. we are told there was a three-hour wait and that officials actually had to halt testing here to keep up with the demand. all of this coming as florida is breaking records for coronavirus cases. as of friday the state logged the highest number of hospitalization since the pandemic began. some 12,000 people in hospitals battling the coronavirus. we did have chance to talk to some of the people lined up waiting to get tested. they told us why they were here and how they felt about the delta variant. >> my son is having symptoms. i feel like i'm getting them too. might as well get it checked out. i'm vaccinated. not the best but we know it's a pretty powerful variant. >> are you -- are you vaccinated? >> no. >> are you thinking more about it now with this variant out there?
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>> no. no. i don't need it. if it's my time, it's my time. >> reporter: just a cross section of people here in the state of florida, when we talk about vaccination rates, according to the florida department of public health and the latest figures, those show that roughly 63% of floridans over the age of 12 have been fully vaccinated. when you incorporate the overall population and that includes children, those under 12 who are not eligible, that number drops to 49%. that is what the happening here in florida. we are seeing cases continue to surge and we are seeing a lot more testing going on here. >> i'm still just sort of speechless over that interview that you did in which she said if it's my time, it's my time. this is what we're up against. thank you. in south dakota, 700,000 bikers are expected to ride into
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sturgis for the annual motorcycle rally. cases are up 90% in the past two weeks. they are providing masks and even the one shot johnson & johnson vaccine. concerns are growing this could become a super spreader event. i know last year it's really hard to track because people come from all over the country and they fan out all over the country. health experts say we did see a rise in cases in the region from sturgis last year. >> reporter: one they really love their personal freedom and they love their personal choice. that's what's happening here. 700,000 people are expected over this ten-day period to come to sturgis. ride through the black hills. come to the restaurants, the stores, trade patches with one another. hang out with friends that they sometimes only see once a year here at this rally because they are not from here.
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they got on their bikes and came here a and will get on their bikes and go home or get on plane and go home. the city of sturgis is doing a number of things different. they have the masks and hand sanitizers. one is is availability of the johnson & johnson one shot vaccine. you could get it here today fp they so desire. they lifted the open container policy in this town. folks can spend all day here downtown outside drinking outside and that is hoping to alleviate some of the crowds we saw in past years in the bars. i want to be clear, this is not 700,000 unvaccinated people. many of the folks are vaccinated. we spoke to two of them who said they know the risks and they are making their own personal choice. >> i've been vaccinated. i got a lot of things going on in my life. >> i was here last year.
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there was no lockdown here. there was no mask. you could if you wanted to. i went to seven different states last year, talked to thousands of people. i wasn't worried about it. i'm a realist. if it's my turn, it's my turn. not going to worry about it. >> reporter: that is not the only large scale event we have seen. just last weekend in chicago, we saw more than 300,000 people at lallopalooza. officials dealing with americans that want to get out and have fun with a delta variant that doesn't care. >> all right, gary, stephanie, mike, thank you. now i have to bring in nbc news public analyst. we heard in florida, we heard in
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south dakota, if it's my time, it's my time. how do you counter that? >> we're in a very weird time with this pandemic and our ability to control it. we're going to get down to hard core of maybe 15%, maybe more not getting vaccinated. not getting vaccinated for crazy reasons. people believing in absolute nonsense that they are seeing like they will get a microchip injected or become magnetic. most disturbing of all is this notion being pushed by the ignorance and political drivers of people like governor de santis and governor abbot and others. they are saying and convincing people that this is about their personal freedom and their personal ability to make a choice. that is not okay. that is not acceptable. there are many, many things that we have to do. we have to have a driver's license if we want to drive the
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car. we need insurance. we can't run down the street naked. we can't yell fire in theater and we have to get our children vaccinated and they must go to school. we have a deadly crisis on our hands. it has been now poisoned by some really crazy politics and some political agendas that we don't have control over at this point. >> doctor, you wrote an op-ed on this topic last week. you said enough already. it's time to follow new york's lead on vaccine mandates. at this point that doesn't sound realistic at all. if you consider the patch work we have now, arizona, texas, florida, they're all going the opposite direction. i want to dissect that personal freedom debate. people say it's my personal freedom to do this or not. you also write but it's not your personal freedom to infect me and my family.
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>> right. this is what i think people are missing the boat and those governors and others are exploits -- exploiting this notion of we're americans and we're free to do what we want. i don't think it's impossible now for the federal government to mandate a national vaccine. it cannot happen. state governments could plan date and some will and many won't. the other thing, one of the things i pointed out in the hill is that every single entity, every corporation, every business can say, you want to work here, you want to come in the workplace, you can't come in unless you're vaccinated. every university, every school, every event ought to say the same thing which is no vax, no entry. i'm concerned about the notion of teachers coming back this fall to in-person classrooms who are not vaccinated. i don't think it should be their
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choice. i think if you want to be in the school as a teacher and administrator, bus driver, you must get vaccinated. it will take a lot more work to do this in this microhyper local fashion. the mandates will have to come if we have any chance of getting this pandemic under control. >> when i'm hearing people like tom tell me this morning and dr. fauci tell chuck todd that by next month we'll be looking at 200,000 daily cases and their biggest fear, what keeps them up is this virus continues to replicate and mutate into something worse than the delta. maybe something even the vaccine can't hold up against. my dad is turning 70 this year in arizona. i don't want them to get in harms way. is this where i have to tell my parents in arizona to not go out
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anymore? >> i think what we'll have to tell all of our parents and at risk friends and family is we still do not have control of this horrendous pandemic. they need to do whatever they need to do to stay safe and i would tell them -- i say that to your parents, but generally, this is the problem and by the way, it's like we can't predict -- i don't know how many people will get sick or catch the disease or die from it. i think predictions are very complicated an difficult. what we do know, for a fact, a fastering virus growing out of control in places because people are not vaccinated is a fertile ground for the development of potentially frightening new variants. that's a fact. how many people will get sick? i don't know. i do think we have a lot of work to do to get our country safe from whatever is going to emerge in the near and distant future
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from the virus. >> doctor, quickly, we're hearing reports that some people are going to great lengths to get a booster shot. some are lying about their status and going to different states. do they need to do that at this point? >> some people at this point need a booster because they are particularly high risk. their immune systems are not working properly. most people do not need a booster unless we get a variant that seems to be a problem. another big problem is an ethical and moral one. we have counties around the world where there's less than 2% people vavaccinated. i think the world health organization said stop thinking about booster shots in your wealthy countries until low resource countries get what they need. >> thank you very much. a key witness in the
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a police officer was killed in line of duty last night in chicago. two officers were making a traffic stop when shots were fired. a female officer died. the other is in critical condition. the mayor honored the fallen officer who was the first chicago officer to be shot and killed on the job since november 2018. >> obviously, our hearts ache for the loss of life. the officer who succomb to her injuries was very young on the job but enthusiastic to do the work. >> chicago police officer arrested two people and are searching for a third. nearly 60 other people were wounded in shootings across
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thety this weekend. now to capitol hill in a live look at the senate floor. lawmakers are back in session as they work to get the bipartisan infrastructure bill to the finish line. as they work on this rare sunday, we're learning some explosive new revelations about jeffrey rosen given testimony to the senate judiciary committee yesterday. chairman dick durbin releasing details earlier today. >> he appeared voluntarily, which says a lot and cooperated with us. i thought he was very open and there's a lot there, awful lot there. you can imagine in 7 hours of testimony. it's importance we ask these questions. what was going on in department of justice was frightening from a constitutional point of view. >> what do we know about what the former acting attorney general said? >> reporter: we heard senators who were part of that testimony use words like catastrophic and
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terrifying to describe the things that they heard about from the former acting attorney general. he wasn't the only one to testify either. his deputy there also testified. remember, that richard donahue is the man who took handwritten notes on a conversation we with trump. those notes said trump said say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and republican allies on the hill. all of this is part in parcel to the larger investigation of what the trump administration and former president, donald trump was doing in the weeks after he lost the 2020 presidential election. it's an ongoing investigation. one that doesn't stop and start with the testimonies that they heard over the weekend. instead, senator durbin says they will hear more. listen. >> ultimately, there will be a report with more people we will try to bring in. i would like to bring in jeffrey
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clark. he was the person if rosen wouldn't do trump's bidding and rosen didn't. there was a time the president was going to put his own man in as attorney general. >> reporter: so much scrutiny of those days and weeks that trump was still in office but had lost the presidency. it's a reminder that he's no longer here, we talk about the shadow that looms large over the republican party. the power he has over it. there's a lot of investigating still being done trying to put new pieces of the puzzling together, new information that is continuous oi coming out from some of those people in things like the department of justice during that time. clearly, a lot of new information still to be shared as the senators and lawmakers continue looking into the weeks on what the former president was doing. here on the hill, some milling about from lawmakers because they are in the midst of trying to pass that bipartisan infrastructure bill. definitely not going along as
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quickly as some would like but at the same time, we are still expecting this to go at there point through the regular order process. not as fast but still that vote will eventually come. we expect it to come as early as tuesday. >> flag us when you see the delivery food because that means it will be a long night. thanks so much. joining me is michigan congresswoman, senior whip for democrats in the house and co-chair of the house democratic policy and communications committee. congresswoman, i want to get your reaction first to aly's reporting on former acting ag sitting down for hours of testimony. give us a sense of how big a deal this is. >> i think it's really important. it's important we get to the facts of what did happen. i guess my concern right now is that people trngs american people have access to that in a very non-partisan, very open way. we do need to get the facts. i have to tell you, i've had a
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number of conversations with some people who believe very strongly that donald trump won the presidency. they don't believe some of these stories. i think the people that were within the trump administration that have the facts need to find a way it can be explained to the american people what was really happening but in a way that isn't look like it's been conveyed in partisan way. >> are you talking about your constituents and how can you, at this point, talk to them about that in a non-partisan way? >> i tried. i really was talking to some bikers and i spent more than an hour with some people that were pretty negative and pretty hostile but i don't walk away. they do have a lot of conspiracy theories. i want them to hear the truth but they're not to believe it from me.
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they need to believe it from those within the trump administration. we got to find way to talk about the issues without it blowing up and everything being partisan. america is in trouble. we got to find way to talk to each other. >> this testimony comes after the doj told several former trump officials they can answer questions about trump's efforts to over turn the election results. who else would you want to hear from? who else can provide critical information? >> people need to hear from republicans. we need members of congress, for the republican party to stand up and say let's hear the facts. let's give the american people the facts. let's give them the straightforward. i'm really worried about what i hear. there's a lot of people that, i
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think, they don't understand what the facts are. >> if a vote were held in the house now, would you vote for it and would it pass? >> i'm not going to vote for a bipartisan bill. we need to have the reconciliation package there. the president announced a target. we're not going to reach that target. building up infrastructure so people can charge their vehicles. i want to see our country succeed and we have to do things to support that. >> all right. thank you for your time today. we appreciate it.
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we're following break news from afghanistan. taliban forces have captured the major city of kunduz. they captured five capitals in past three days as government defense has crumbled. matt, walk us through the latest and what that means. >> reporter: the latest here is pretty grim for afghans opposed to the taliban. if there was any doubt the
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taliban wouldn't be able to seize control over this entire country, there weekend has really settled that question. it seems as though all of these five capitals that have fallen have done so in short order. some fell without much resistance. simply surrendering to the taliban or negotiating through tribal elders. it's been falling in quick succession. it kind of creates a crescent shape. we have to look at some of the history here. the soviet union established their own government back in the '80s when they invaded afghanistan. that government after the soviets left decades ago. that lasted for two years. intelligence assessment from the u.s. back in june said this
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government probably won't last for six months. this weekend has really illustrated that for anyone who doubted that. meanwhile, we have to remember there are ongoing negotiations between the taliban and the u.s. backed government in kabul. now there's fighting in addition to these five major capitals that have fallen. it looks as though those cities will be falling in short order as well. those are major you are began areas. it's gone from controlling the country side and made a lot of advances. it looks as throe the u.s. backed government doesn't have much time left. lindsay. >> all right. thank you. we're going to dive deeper into this now. he's former supreme allied commander at nato and now an msnbc chief international
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security and diplomacy analyst and contributor. we want to put up that map again here of the lack from the council of foreign relations and the estimate of the territorial gains that the taliban has made since april. add mirl, what does this teal you here about the afghan military and how well they are able to or not fend off the taliban? >> unfortunately, they are failing. i commanded that commission for four years. it's nato mission. at the time we had 150,000 u.s. and allied troops there. now we're down to handful and unfortunately, despite all the effort that went in over the last decade to train the afghan security forces, they are not thus far proving themselves very effective on the battlefield. i think matt's comments are
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about right. there's a three in four chance the wheels come off. i think there's a one in four chance that they can bring the taliban to the table by holding onto the really major pop you lag centers. by the way, the fall of kunduz is significant. it's about the size of philadelphia. it's the sixth largest city. it's not one of the top five. the taliban control nothing else in the top 12 or 13 cities. >> what is it about the taliban, right now, that is allowing them
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to take on these cities going from rural to urban areas? is it something funding their equipment? is it their will? >> it is largely a matter of will, at this point. that's what the afghan armed forces are lacking are leadership and will. you have to fall back on leadership and will. thus far the taliban are winning that contest. >> what does this mean for the people of afghanistan. does this mean the possibility of a civil war is imminent? what does this mean for women and girls there also? >> the real tragedy is the fact that under the taliban, women and girls are going to be effectively disenfranchised as they were before the arrival of
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the u.s. and our allies 20 years ago. that's a an enormous step back. they would be advertising themselves as taliban 2.0. willing to have more rights for women, willing to engage. it doesn't look that way thus far. >> they urged americans to leave afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options. whose still there? >> we have a robust embassy staff. we have north of 1,000 troops to protect them. we have options to come in over the horizon if we need to. the western countries are still there. this is not yet, saigon, 1975 with helicopters lifting off of rooftops but if the afghan army does not stiffen and if there's not emergence of real leadership
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and will from kabul, it could turn into that. >> is there a greater chance we're going to see the current afghan government fall and the taliban take control? >> i think it's -- yes. i think it's three in four chance that we see exactly that. there's still an opportunity here for the afghan government if they can muster the leadership, muster the will. we put the tools in their hands. we should also continue to try and support the military from over the horizon. the biden administration had the capability to do that. the outlook is getting dimmer. >> thank you for your time and joining us on this. governor andrew coumo accuser speaks out publicly for the first time. here is some of what she said,
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sgla the 11 women, who they have said and the allegations they have made are qualitatively different. there are two or three allegations that are the serious allegations. i would find it very difficult to believe that the assembly of state of new york would impeach governor cuomo for kissing a woman at a wedding that he officiated in front of dozens of women and staffers. >> nbc news correspondent joins us now. we are hearing from the woman who filed the criminal complaint. what can you tell us about what she's saying? >> well, we are hearing from the executive assistant of governor cuomo for the first time on cbs there morning. she is self-identifying and this changes the game for governor cuomo. take a listen to what she sad to
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say. >> why did you file that criminal complaint with the sheriff's office? >> it was the right thing to do. the governor needs to be held accountable. >> being held accountable to you means seeing the governor charged with a crime? >> what he did to me was a crime. he broke the law. >> now we have a flu investigation to be watching very closely and this really could change the game for governor cuomo. no longer is it a political issue. this takes it into a whole new league. we'll be watching in the coming days. tomorrow is a big day. we're revisiting the impeachment discussion and talking about allegations of sexual harassment, handling of nursing homes and death data. use of state resources when he wrote and published his memoir.
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new questions for texas state democrats as they strategize their next move this the showdown with republicans. the texas legislature is expected to resume its special session tomorrow to address a controversial election bill. and many democrats are not expected to show up. nbc's jay gray is outside the capital in austin.
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jay, what are you hearing? i mean, can they hold out much longer? >> yeah, it doesn't appear they can. we have had a core group of these democrats, close to 60, who left almost a month ago say they are going the remain out for as long as possible. they are playing it close to the vest as far as their strategy is concerned. we do know that at least 26 plan to stay in washington, d.c. for as long as they can to continue to push for federal election legislation. but we learned this morning that that time may soon be running out. >> we will try to get a bill onto the floor. that takes republican partnership. but we will not get that. behind the scenes, we are closing in on a bill. i like to think of it as manchin 2.0 because senator manchin laid out a good framework on us on the key points from stopping millionaires from buying elections, stopping gerrymandering and protecting
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the pulsating heart of america, the ballot box. >> again, it looks like they are going to take a break before there is any federal legislation. now, the democrats not sharing their strategy but if you look at some of the factors here you can kinds of begin to figure out what's going on. yesterday, two of those who left were here as the new special session was gavelled in. they were on the floor. only 26 of the nearly 60 days ago in d.c. the rest not saying exactly where they will be right now. i think the most telling sign here is what happened yesterday. republicans did not invoke the procedural measure that would have allowed them to, in essence, arrest, issue arrest warrants for those missing lawmakers, something they did initially when they left. so that would seem to indicate some kind of deal is in the works at least. now, will there be a quorum tomorrow? not clear at this point. but you would have to think with a lot of these lawmakers needing to come back to their families
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obviously, then jobs, that at some point they have got to get back here. >> jay gray, thank you for updating us on those deechlts. still to come, huge revelations about the former president and his push to subvert the election results. the new reaction from judiciary committee member senator richard blumenthal, next. rated us #1 for network quality in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right, 's why there's only one best network. ♪
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city. thank you for joining us today. welcome to alex witt reports. here's what's happening at 2:00 p.m. eastern, 11:00 a.m. pacific. we begin with a new revolution in the investigation into donald trump's efforts to undermine the 2020 election. lawmakers confirming this morning that former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen sat down with the jash year committee yesterday for seven years. a senator who was in that room, dick durbin saying he hopes this testimony will lead to -- >> ultimately, there will be a report. there are more people we will try to bring in. i would like to bring in jeffrey clark, for example. he was the heir apparent in trump's mind if rosen was not going to do his bidding. and rosen stood fast and didn't. so there was a tense period of time there in a moment where the president was going to put his own man in as attorney general. >> now, another senator in that room,
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