tv Hallie Jackson Reports MSNBC August 18, 2021 7:00am-8:00am PDT
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america and our cameras were rolling at dulles airport as the evacuees arrived escaping the chaos and the taliban takeover. >> everything worked out. everybody got home safely, that is our primary concern. >> they are not the only ones out of afghanistan. we have new information just coming in to us within the last five minutes on where president ghani, the now former it appears afghan leader is as we speak. right now as many as 15,000 americans are still in afghanistan. the pentagon hoping toic. up the pace of evacuations and multiple sources telling nbc news the cia warned something like what we're seeing now could be the worst case scenario. we'll have the new reporting you will only see here and reaction from the white house, where president biden is set to announce new guidance recommending most americans get a covid booster. top docs standing by how that goes down and what you need to
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know. i'm hallie jackson in washington with you along with our nbc news team. courtney kube at the pentagon, richard engel from kabul, ken dilanian covers intelligence and national security for nbc and mike memoli at the white house. courtney, there was a question mark where president ghani was. he was not in afghanistan and fled the country. we understand he has been accepted on humanitarian grounds elsewhere. what do we know? >> we knew he was out of the country. the big wez quef is what about the other people in the ghani administration? where are they? that say big question mark. we know that ghani and his wife fled with a very small number of
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his staff. we're waiting for an update on kabul airport with the evacuations. hundreds have gotten out in the last 12 hours getting military flights in and evacuees out on the same military planes, and we now know there are hundreds, thousands of actually afghans been able to get out as well. but as you mentioned in the lead-in, an estimate of 15,000 americans who may be in afghanistan trying to get out. the situation is desperate. the u.s. military has an agreement they've been talking to the taliban letting americans through the checkpoints but still not clear if there is an agreement to let afghans through. so afghan citizens many of whom may be able to leave under u.s. diplomatic processes cannot get to the airport. we hear reports of arriving at
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checkpoints and being beaten, turned away and there's not a lot of communication what they should do if it's safe to make their way to the airport once there are availability seats on the flights. we're waiting to hear from press secretary john kirby who is supposed to provide us with an update on the numbers, how many troops made their way into the country and how many people have been evacuated out. >> i know you have to get to that briefing, court. i'll let you go and do that, come back, please. i know you will during the show to give us an update on what you learned. you're looking at a live shot on the left side of your screen at where courtney was talking about, the kabul airport. richard engel is on the phone from kabul, where the evacuations are happening, at the airport. richard, can you tell us what you're seeing on the ground, as we back here at home have seen some of the evacuees this morning start to arrive. >> reporter: as courtney was describing the biggest problem is getting to the airport,
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getting onto the airport. the military and taliban signed a peace agreement and the time shifted and more or less in a situation the u.s. is negotiating with the taliban asking the taliban for safe passage, allow us to get our people out and don't harass them. it is not going particularly smoothly because it is unclear which kind of people are supposed to be allowed out and i have gone through that gauntlet, gone from the outside to the inside and it is not an easy process. going through concentric circles the city of kabul, controlled by the taliban and the perimeter around the airport a couple i $of ago was breached. hundreds of afghans, thousands of afghans climbed over the walls, rushed onto the airport,
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into the airport. they boarded civilian planes and tried to grab onto military transport planes. the taliban was asked by the minimum tear, keep people back. you're now charge. we need to keep these evacuations safe. so the taliban set up aggressive checkpoints where they were beating people with cables, firing in the air, they have instructions apparently to allow americans through, each checkpoint has a different, personalities on it, some more aggressive than others. how are afghans supposed to get through? are the afghans applying for special visas afraid of the taliban, supposed to come up and show their documentation to the taliban? and say we were the translators, allow us to get on the base. they're terrified and if the taliban are shooting in the air they're not able to approach the taliban to do that. that's getting from kabul onto
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the airbase. the airbase now is secure. the base is calm and full of u.s. troops, it is very secure. there is air support above, but getting onto the base is a clalening. it's a challenge from kabul. imagine trying to get deep from the provinces, trying to get from a district. if you are in a district in central afghanistan or northern afghanistan, you may have to go through 50 taliban checkpoints to get here. >> right. >> how are you going to do that and are you going to show all of the documentation that says i was a translator? people are terrified to do that. >> of course. >> and americans stranded in these areas on what were bases or had contracts there because a lot of these are contractors, how are they supposed to get there? the logistics of working with the taliban now are fraught, to say the least. but on the base the people who do get on the base are that process doesn't seem to be
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moving, it does seem to be moving more swiftly than the process before. >> richard, can i ask you about the news developing as we come on the air here on the 10:00 eastern hour of msnbc, and that is the specific location confirmed by the uae of president ghani. we know there have not been communications according to the white house between president biden and president ghani in recent, the last couple of days here per what we heard from the white house yesterday. can you talk about why the uae, and how you read this, as we talked about with courtney right at the top of the show, we knew ghani was gone. he's out of afghanistan, he left, that's what precipitated the collapse here but i'd love your thoughts on this. >> reporter: as the government was collapsing. >> right. >> reporter: if you remember, it happened quickly. many in afghanistan blame ghani for the imminent collapse, toward the end as the provinces were falling, it was clear that kabul was going to fall at some
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stage, but when ghani left and some members of his own government didn't know he was going to leave, it was the end of the end immediately. the taliban wasn't prepared. they didn't know ghani was going to leave and didn't have the resources in place to secure a city of 6 million, the population of kabul. they came in small numbers and there was looting. now the taliban set up some security in the city and really the only i don't want to say the only dangious part, lots of it is dangerous but the only chaotic part, the only place where you hear gunfire is around the airport. it was shortly after they left
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the airport started to be thronged with people and overrun. they got some of the last flights out of here. they were operating to a degree of secrecy. people were getting on whatever flights could go g and a lot of them were headed up north. initial reports he landed in tajikistan. why he epded up in the uae, countries are willing to give people asylum and the uae has done that, saudi arabia has done that, many countries have given former leaders safe passage usually with the understanding that that is the end of their career. tunisian president i believe he's still in saudi arabia with the understanding you go there, we'll put you up in some sort of house and you will not be heard from again. you will have, that is the end of your career. >> yes. >> reporter: so it seems like ghani has gone into this kind of isolated seclusion. maybe he'll give press
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conferences but generally you don't hear from them after that. >> i know you're staying safe, you are secure where you are which is the case. thank you. ken and mike, let me bring you in on this. there is new reporting you have out today from nbc news, based on what you've talked to with your sources. ken, new warnings, these warnings from the cia that predicted frankly the rapid collapse of afghanistan, something like the pace we've seen. you write that in the end, the cia's description of what a worst case scenario could look like was close to what happened according to one former official briefed on the matter. what else are they telling you and the significance here because this is i think the question that a lot of people have had for the last 72-plus hours here, is what was the intel and was the white house paying attention to it? >> right. first of all, hallie, the intelligence community, the cia was always far more pessimistic than the military about whether afghan forces would ever be able to stand on their own and hold
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off the taliban, if the u.s. withdrew and our sources say in recent weeks cia assessments of the afghan military were becoming more and more bleak. afghan solders stopped guarding the roads to kabul. this reporting was caveated as all intelligence is. it's not a crystal ball. as one congressional source said to me, was this predicted, no, but it was always known to be within the range of possibility s so why did it end in chaos? many officials told us the military withdraw american troops much faster than the state department, the cia expected and it wasn't well coordinated. so once president biden ordered the military to get out against their advice, they get out fast, evacuating bagram airbase in the dead of night, last month as richard reported on so well and that was a powerful psychological blow to afghan forces, who were already seeing the writing on the wall. the taliban, meanwhile had been
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making secret deals, bribing commanders, smoothing the way to surrender officials tell us, and all of that, hallie, contributed to making the worst case scenario a reality. >> mike over to you at the white house and the response, reaction from what you're hearing from folks about new reporting. >> hallie, what we heard from the podium yesterday from national security adviser jake sullivan was casting at least sidestepping the idea that this was the intelligence seen at the white house. he also was quick to say that he wasn't going to engage in the kind of finger pointing exercises that we're already seeing well under way here in washington. but it's notable that when the president spoke in the east room a month ago, he also denied that he had seen intelligence that the swift collapse of the afghan government was likely, if the president followed through on his plan to withdraw u.s. forces. now, what's also clear, though, at this stage is that the white house has had a fairly pessimistic view itself of the
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capability of the afghan government of the likelihood of them to be able to withstand the kind of takeover that we've now seen take place, and in fact, hallie, what has been the chief talking point from the administration since the fall of kabul is that the fact that as the president himself said this week, the afghan government collapsed so quickly, only justified his decision to no longer invest american blood and treasure in propping up a government that was not able to stand up for itself. now it's notable of course as we expect to hear from the president later today on covid-19 that the president will also likely have an opportunity to weigh in if he wants to on the developments in afghanistan. he returned to washington last night. this is also taking place as we know the president for the first time has spoken with one of his foreign unt coulderparts, last night speaking with the prime minister of the united kingdom, boris johnson, an important conversation, because we know that britain was at our side throughout this 20-year effort in afghanistan, and we saw the debate in parliament this morning, where one of boris
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johnson's fellow conservatives was stark in his criticism of president biden for criticizing the afghan forces and also calling for a real coalition outside, absent the united states, to do whatever is possible to try to as he put it hold the line in afghanistan. he said patience has shown to be successful, and the implicit suggestion there was the united states showing a real lack of patience here, hallie >> mike, it's important reporting, thank you. toby, let me go to you on this. we now know that we will hear from defense secretary austin, coming up this afternoon, secretary austin is going to, it's my understanding what i'm being told he will brief at 3:00 this afternoon. i got to tell you, toby, one of the things that i've heard, i've had conversations with veterans who served in afghanistan, has been and one vet and we'll hear from them later in the show put it succinctly. i want to hear from secretary austin. he said general austin, how he knew him in the military, this is a guy that i trust. i want to hear from him, what is the plan?
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what are the logistics moving forward? how is this going to happen? why hasn't he come out and spoken yet? the president has, the commander in chief, not the defense secretary. that happens this afternoon. toby, how important is it based on the people that you're talking to that we hear from secretary austin and what do they want to hear from him? >> hallie, thanks for having me on the show. i think in a situation of chaos and peril, which has been outlined so well people want to hear from ed looers and want to be reassured. they want leaders to own the situation and they want to hear practical details of what's going to happen. i'm talking to a lot of veterans of the u.s., uk intelligence agencies and they are looking back at what happens and
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extraordinarily worried about the plight of afghan allies inside the country and extremely concerned about what kind of taliban government we're going to get. one of the people that has been cited by me by a number of people is mullah muhammad faisal, who spent 12 years in the bay cited as being responsible for the massacre of shia in the bammian province in 2001 and believe he was responsible for the genocide of hazares, 10,000 to 20,000 in northern afghanistan before thetal bab regime was toppled in 2001. mullah faisal we're hearing kinder, gentler words from the taliban leadership, but mullah faisal i'm told has been in kandahar on the taliban
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negotiating team in doha, looking at a situation really of great danger and concern and people want to hear from mark's leaders how they're going to deal with this situation. >> toby, mike and ken, thank you, and courtney and richard off doing more reporting i know. thanks to you all. more from secretary austin as we said and also to president biden, who will speak on something else, rolling out plans for a covid booster shot for most of us, we're going to answer your questions about it, next. plus, we're taking to you the first day of school in one district, looking at potential punishment after defying the governor and machine dating masks in class. and on the topic we were just talking with toby about, veterans who fought in afghanistan, now on a different kind of mission, fighting for those who helped them to escape the taliban. our emotional conversation, just ahead.
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some big news we expect to come out from the white house at some point today, about that plan to roll out vaccine booster shots, something that would affect probably you if you're watching, more than 150 million americans. the president we're told is going to be speaking in the 4:00 eastern hour on this and it's happening as cases soar across the country, more cities telling people to put their masks back on including in places where it's illegal to tell people to put their masks back on. in florida students in broward county are headed back to class with a mask mandate in place, in direct defiance of an order by governor desantis who banned the mask mandate. dasha burns is outside flamingo elementary school.
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the state voted to sanction districts with a mask mandate in place. we look to the significant news that is expected to come out on booster shots for a lot of people. we'll talk about that in a second. >> reporter: hallie, broward county school district kicks off this school year in the middle of a political tug-of-war, something that's been frustrating for parents, administrators and teachers as they want the focus to be on kids getting back to the classroom after a year and a half of disrupted learning. instead, this district is now facing sanctions. last night the first punitive measures against the school district for requiring masks. broward is staying and sticking to that mandate. they say they are looking at the data, last week the state reported more than 31,000 covid cases among those under the age of 19, and here in broward county, they are still reeling from the loss of three educators just last week, and hallie, i spoke to parents coming to drop their kids off this morning,
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everyone i spoke with was in favor of the mask mandate. the district put out a survey to all 270,000 plus students and only 190 were against masks, so they want the power to make this decision to be here locally with local elected officials. i want you to hear from the school board chair and superintendent about this decision. take a listen. >> i think that we've allowed this to become political on the backs of our kids, on the backs of our staff, and that's why our board is standing steadfast. >> our board was put into a very difficult situation. they don't want to go against our governor, they don't want to go against any law that may be out there but at the same time they're very responsible for the lives of individuals here within our community and they understand that. >> reporter: it's not clear exactly what the sanctions will be but the school board chair
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says they've been threatened with several hundred thousands of dollars of funding taken from the district, equivalent to the salaries of the superintendent and some of the school board members. they can't take the salaries directly that will likely come from the district funding. president biden called to support the district saying that he would support and give resources if the state does take that funding, hallie. >> dasha burns live in florida thank you. we'll talk more about the story coming up in the show and talking as house lawmakers demand answers from the biden administration how it plans to safely evacuate citizens from afghanistan. congressman gregory meeks calling for a hearing as soon as possible. he's going to join us live coming up later in the show.
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we have breaking news right now, it is official that recommendation now for booster shots for most americans coming in, in this joint statement just into us here from the department of health and human services, officially recommending prepared to offer those booster shots. here is the deal. it would star the week of september 20th, prepared to offer the shots for all americans beginning the week of september 20th, just about a
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month from now and eight months after a person's second dose. if you got the moderna, pfizer vaccine, eight months from the date of that second shot. this is significant, affects a lot of people in this country. mike memoli from the white house, heidi pryzbla and dr. torres and azar. mike, lay out the landscape. not a surprise butofficial. what else can you tell us about the statement? >> reporter: you hit the headline, something we've been reporting for the last 24 hours but i think the rationale in this joint statement from the top medical officials across the government is significant in our understanding of where the virus is heading in this country. it starts by laying out the research that is well-known at this point that the efficacy of these vaccines over time is shown to diminish, and what the statement says specifically based on the latest research is
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that they're seeing an increase in mild to moderate cases, even among those who have been vaccinated especially among those who were vaccinated the earliest. now, hallie, who were those vaccinated the earliest in this country? those most vulnerable, the seniors, the front line medical workers so there's a concern of course, now given the prevalence of the delta variant a more severe strain of the coronavirus, that we need to get some fresh protection here, as especially we head into the fall. so what the administration is laying out is a plan to begin giving those vaccinations again starting with those most vulnerable populations on september 20th, significantly as we know the johnson & johnson vaccine came on later. this applies to the moderna and pfizer vaccine, waiting for additional data for a second dose and likely saying there will be a suggestion of a second dose of the johnson & johnson vaccine further down the road. >> dr. azar and torres, first, obvious question, if you're sitting watching this right now,
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this developing news and you got the j&j shot, what do you do, dr. azar? >> unfortunately if you want to do it by the book, you're going to wait. johnson & johnson is comparing two doses to one dose to see which one is more effective and more efficacious. people are getting boosters because they're hearing about this, the explanation why johnson & johnson is not in the mix the eua was only for the mrna vaccines and the number of individuals who received johnson & johnson numbers 14 million as opposed to about 155 million people who got the mrna vaccines and some of the earliest, people in nursing homes and compromised
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immunity. >> the administration will begin efforts to deliver booster shots to people in long-term care facilities, et cetera. everyone was getting first two shots, huge convention centers open, drive-through shot vaccination locations people could go to. who needs to happen in order for everybody to get boosters in the time frame the administration is recommending from a logistics standpoint? it higtd be a lift. >> hallie we had the mass vaccination centers, tents set up and crowds and long hours people complaining they couldn't get vaccinations. that was a trial run. they have leeway and head space here and time to be able to figure this out. long-term care facilities making plans to move into there now. the manufacturers said they have plenty of vaccine available in
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order to start doing and you might be seeing some mass vaccination facilities and also remember a lot of pharmacies are giving it out, a lot of other areas are giving it out so i think you'll see it in more locations squl and much more convenient for people. one thing you have to realize is this is a recommendation to go ahead and start to process but the process needs to be done and the fda needs to meet, look at the data and recommend it and the cdc will need to meet based on the fda recommendation in order to make their recommendation as well. >> heidi, pick up on that. you've reported on this extensively over the last year. what is the fda process look like and need to do now, basically we hear about that dr. torres points out upon fda approval phrase. >> this is reversal from early july fda said we had' not need a third booster dose. the data came in we are told in late july by moderna showning waning effectiveness and
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secondly a lot of pressure from other countries britain, france and germany are making this determination and controversy by some of the outside groups like the world health organization which say the priority should be for all of us in order to stop the spread of new variants to get poorer countries and some of the countries where they have received no vaccine, vaccinated first. the white house is being pressed on this, and the white house press secretary jen psaki said that we've made contingency plans to do both and a lot of questions i believe, hallie, in this briefing about our capability to follow through on that and given that we said in early july that we weren't going to do this, whether that is really going to be possible but of course, this new data came in, and we expect at this point, though, hallie, given that they've set out this time frame to answer your question, that
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this will be happening by mid-september. the question really is just going to be about the johnson & johnson vaccine more of a formal recommendation as well. >> the statement says and i quote "we conclude too athank a booster shot will be needed to maximize vaccine induce product tex and prolong its durability." translate that into plain english for us >> as heidi pointed out we have data in the u.s. that vaccine effectiveness does seem to decline the further out from your completed inoculation series and looking closely at the israeli data which seem to suggest a significant diminution in severe disease of individuals who received the pfizer vaccine in january as opposed to april. it's important to point out for folks that this whole time we've
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been having a conversation about boosters we haven't really known and we still don't know if these mrna or johnson & johnson vaccines need to be given as a series of three or four shots, say for mrna and two shots for johnson & johnson or if they can remain a two-shot series and a one-shot series respectively with boosters. hepatitis b, tdap as a booster, we don't know exactly yet where covid-19 is going to fall. the data in our country seems to show the percentage of hospitalizations and severe disease has been increasing in breakthrough infections, but the absolute number remains low that the sickest people are still the unvaccinated but we're seeing the numbers creep up in those of us vaccinated. >> hau for your reporting. we'll talk more about this when the covid briefing begins at the top of the hour, 20 minutes from now. i br ing in somebody who knows
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this very well, dr. richard besser, former acting director of the cdc, now president and ceo of the robert woods foundation. good morning. >> good morning, nice to be here. >> big day, by morning for this, too. talk through number one your overall takeaways here and two on the time line. you think about the questions that many americans might have, they may be thinking do i need to hit eight months on the nose after my second dose, what is the window? why is this time line significant and what are the risks if i want to do it earlier or later than that? >> there are a lot of questions, a lot of concerns people have. one of the things that i think is important to stress up front is that whenever there is a new infectious disease, you want to see guidance changes based on following the evidence and data and looking at risk. what we're seeing today is a
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conclusion over time the level of protection from the mar in a vaccines starts to fall. the good news is they're not seeing yet an increase in terms of risk for severe infection and hospitalization but that has been seen in israel. the decision now is to go with the third dose with a booster shot, ahead of that so we don't get to the point where we're responding to an increase in people dying, we're providing additional protection to those fully vaccinated so far. in terms of the rollout, september 20th that week is when it will start. my understanding is they're looking at eight months and the reason for that is that by staging at eight months, if you think back to how vaccines initially rolled out, targeting those at the greatest risk. front line health care workers, people in nursing homes, long-term care facilities, people with significant medical problems and by staging it that
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way, you'll be providing access first to those who got it earlier so the titers are dropping. >> the white house said and i believe the press secretary addressed this over the last 24 hours, they've been thinking, this has not come out of nowhere, thinking and planning for the potential of distribution of booster shots to happen. any concerns about a scramble to sites for people the way that we saw long lines and all of that back in march, april, may and given that there are many people -- ago ahead, dr. besser. >> i hope not. this is a different situation how it is discussed and communicated. the good news in the data the protection, severe infection, hospitalization and death remains extremely high and so i don't think there's that mad scramble. we're also going to, in a
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situation where there is enormous supply of vaccine in this country. there should be vaccine to people to receive when their eight-month window arrives. for those who received the j&j vaccine, the recommendations will be coming after additional data to look at to those series for that vaccine and what happens. >> dr. richard besser, it is great to have your perspective and your expertise on a morning like this. thank you so much. we appreciate your time, we appreciate you being with us. next up -- >> my pleasure. congressman gregory meeks on his hunt for answers about afghanistan plus a new report details another warning made to the fbi ahead of the january 6th riot. we're talking with the reporter who broke that story, next. that i should get used to people staring.
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visitors starting january 1st. the website's administrator finding "many of the clips were going from hyperlinks shared on anonymous message boards and forums using militia names or donald trump's name." something alarmed him so much he got in touch with the fbi. scott macfarlane from wrc, how far up the chain the warning from the fbi went? >> reporter: u.s. capitol police tell me is got to the highest level in january 5th in the hours before the insurrection, a big waving red flag. the website is washingtontunnels.com, for city planners or history buffs who live here in the nation's capital. it's a dream website with the history of the subway system, of the water and sewer lines and of the tunnel system here on capitol hill. an elaborate labyrinth beneath the building. it's public knowledge and public
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facing website. the web administraor got clicking from websites any lashia and ar15 in the title. the senate reviewed this tip and handling part of its investigation into january 6th, maybe the house will do so next. >> scott mcfar lane live on the hill, invaluable reporting as always. good to have you on. back to what is happening in afghanistan and the fall to the taliban deeply personal for veterans who serve there. my conversation with several of them clear they are on a mission to help the afghan people they worked with desperate to get out. these vets share how they're feeling now, the guilt, the anger and the anguish. as you've been watching what has happened in the last 72 hours, how are you doing? >> i want to suit up and go back. >> i would give anything to go back. >> reporter: for them it's personal as the biden administration works to process and evacuate afghan interpreters, fixers and other helpers. >> my interpreter who is stuck
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right now i'm trying to get out, he's hiding out in an area where he says that nobody knows who he is. he's very afraid. >> for his safety. >> yes for his safety and the safety of his family. he sent me a picture of two of his boys and they're, i mean, i'm just, it's devastating. >> i feel this really strong sense of guilt. it is my job to go around to different villages to help them build their country and make it a better place and this just completely makes me a liar. you know? >> it's not just the soldiers we're talking about. it's the diplomats, the aide worker, people who believed in the future of this country that we're trying to build together, they don't have a future now. >> reporter: they're still fighting now, banding together to help those who helped them. >> this is, you know, a deployment from my living room. there are so many of us who are trying to do everything that we can. >> i just had to put aside everything else, because i feel
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responsible. my two friends who are still stuck in kabul are, i'm the only hope that they have to survive right now. i'm like literally their last hope. >> marine battlefield after who brothers that also served were killed. >> it is frustration all of the way around. >> they work to rescue the afghans that helped them. >> you talk about your kids, four and two, how do you want them to remember this war? >> that of is a heck of a question. i don't want them to be ashamed of anything. we lost for a few weeks but we won for 20 years. i want them to be proud. >> one thing that came up again and again is the idea that while the taliban is making pledges that they will lead afghan more
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peacefully, none of these people believe that. they do not trust the taliban, they do not trust the promss they're making. they're working so hard to get these folks out safely. even after the interview they were passing around contact information, spreadsheets. they are hoping them start new lives once they get there, too. it's incredibly important and it will continue. now you're looking at a live shot at the white house. as we speak president biden is meeting with advisors about this now. along with joint chief staff mark milley. this is progressing rapidly and i want to bring up someone else that is receiving some updates and that is gregory meeks of new york. congressman, good morning and thank you for being on the show.
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>> good morning, thank you hallie. >> i want to ask you your reaction to what we have seen unfold in the last six to eight hours or so in afghanistan this morning with the situation at the airport. you, i know, are having a hearing. is that going to turn into an investigation or is it a one off at this point? >> first, let me just say this, let me just tell you i'm so proud of you and the job you have done very successfully. and our mission is your mission to make sure we get those individuals that stood by you and put their lives on the line. that they are out of there. we have to get every american citizen out of afghanistan. that is the focus of what we are looking at right now.
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in regards to the house foreign affairs committee, it has oversight jurisdiction. we want today make sure that the mission now of getting our people out of afghanistan, now we know they have dates, august 31st, et cetera. you can't go by that. we need to make sure that every one of those individuals are out. in a means if we have to stay longer, we should do that. we have to make sure our committee will oversee what is being done to make sure those individuals are out, and they are in fact out. >> a couple points to follow up
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there. you're making very clear that your priority is to get the folks out. we folk to a former interpreter that has family members quite literally trapped. they can't get out. not spouses, not eligible for these if i vas, what kind of help should they be giving to those people? >> i think that it is those people and their individuals. it's those individuals and their families. >> and cousins and parents and those not necessarily allowed under the auspices of the rules at this point. >> i think that the congress has
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a obligation to look at what they are. if they need rules to be changed we need to make that determination. we recently passed some laws to make it easier. to get paper work and the people with the siv visas. if we have to change some laws we have to do that as members of congress. >> i also have to ask you about the reporting that we shared. shourgss telling our team there is an initial assessments similar to what we have seen unfold over the last several days. is that something you will look to identify? >> i think they're going to see what took place.
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how quickly they zoot kabul and moved in province to province. just gets up and leaves, you know, i p don't put myself in the same information as them. if the president just got up to left and it would be a panic here into there was panic there. and you have to understand what took place, and what we could have done to do that. >> thank you all of you for watching. a lot of news. kris jansing will pick up the coverage after the break. jansi coverage after the break or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries,
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