tv Ayman Mohyeldin Reports MSNBC August 19, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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♪♪ good afternoon, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin in new york. we're following breaking news in capitol hill. north carolina man who held authorities at bay for several hours by claiming to have an explosive device in his vehicle parked in front of the library of congress has now surrendered. we'll have the very latest in just a moment. over at the white house, president biden met with his national security team to discuss the situation in afghanistan. he continues to face questions about his withdraw plans. p this as the pentagon though
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says it is granting up the pace of evacuations of americans and afghans that helped the u.s. from kabul international airport. we're taking a closer look at what led to what we're seeing play out in afghanistan today. meantime, back here at home, mississippi republican senator roger wicker and maine independent senator angus king revealed they tested positive for the coronavirus despite both of them being vaccinated. doctors are also alarmed by the rising number of covid-19 cases that are appearing in children. we're going to look at how one children's hospital is dealing with that surge. but we gun this hour with the breaking news out of the nation's capitol. let's go to nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. i understand the suspect surrendered. how did this play out? >> well, he simply gave himself up according to the capitol police chief tom manger. they tried to establish communications with him. initially they were writing back
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and forth using dry erase boards. that's how he wanted to communicate with them. while he was actually broadcasting live on facebook for a time. and then at some point the police sent in a robot with a phone. but the police chief says he never got the robot phone and simply at some point decided to give himself up. after nearly five hours of high drama in washington, d.c., which forced the closure of buildings all around the front of the library of congress which is where his pickup truck was parked on the sidewalk this morning. he called 911 himself. he wanted to get attention. his 49-year-old floyd ray rosebury of grover, north carolina. police have also searched his home there and they've been talking to family members. they say that he had gone through a number of crisis in his life. during the facebook transmissions today, he made a number of anti-government rhetoric statements rather. he complained about his problems in getting health care for him
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and his wife. and he said at one point he wanted to talk to president biden. it was his claim he had a bomb that forced the closure of all the buildings. because at that time the authorities had no way of knowing whether what he claimed to have was actually a device or not. and at some point during the facebook transmission, you can see some sort of can in his lab, metal can with a lump of clay on the top. and some sort of box attached to that with a blue button on it. so he clearly wanted to make it appear that he had possibly an explosive device. now it's going to be hours before there is a definitive read on whether it actually was a bomb. but we're told the initial checks do not appear to show viable device. so it will be a while before they can make a definitive conclusion about. that he also claimed he had amonium nitrate, a common fertilizer in the toolbox, in the bed of the truck. if there was a bomb, that could have given additional explosive
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force to whatever he had. but in any event, it's all over now. ending peacefully. he's in custody. he'll be facing federal charges. jeff? >> all right. pete williams, thank you very much in washington, d.c. pete, thanks for that. we turn to the latest out of afghanistan where it's ironically independence day. joining me now are helen cooper and msnbc political contributor. also with us, afghan-american journalist who spent years covering afghanistan. she is now an acclaimed novelist. we heard the pentagon earlier this morning talking about the gate outside kabul airport. are they open? are they secure? but at the same time, we're getting reports from on the ground according to reuters that -- according to taliban and nato officials, 12 people were killed there by gunfire or in the rush. are we seeing scenes like this repeat more and more? i mean, we should note this video that you're seeing right
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now on the screen does not make clear who exactly is shooting. but what do we know about u.s. efforts to secure the airport passage for afghans? >> that's the million dollar question. i mean, the gates -- when they say the gates are secure, the gates that the airport is secure and that some gates are open. that they're trickles of people coming through. most of the people being let through are american citizens. afghan siv applicants and afghan allies that are desperate to get out and are masked at the gate and processing to get through or they're in kabul where they're having issues getting through to the airport itself, getting through all the taliban checkpoints. you see people getting beaten up. people attacked by the taliban. people have been shot at. there's been a lot of gunfire. it's a pretty harrowing journey.
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once you manage to get to the airport though, it's not completely over yet. you still have to make sure you're on one of the state department lists or the list that's allow you to be brought into the airport. so there are two different things going on right now. the pentagon is making every effort to open up the bottle neck. you have a lot of flights going out now. they established -- they said this morning they're flying f-18
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fighter jets coming in. they're bringing marines and other troops to help with the evacuation effort. that is up to 5,200 now according to the pentagon. but some of the planes, they're turk around these big transport planes are going back half full or half, you know, half empty. they're not filled with people because there is a bottle neck. it is taking time for people to get through. >> is there any consideration? is it i know this was brought up yesterday briefing. has there been any indication whether or not the military wants to expand operations beyond kabul international airport? maybe to include the runways at bagram air base? >> that is not a decision for the military, unfortunately. that's a decision for president biden. the pentagon right now and i asked john kirby the pentagon press secretary this very question this morning. whether the pentagon had authorization to expand
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operations beyond kabul airport, to open up the bottle neck. he made point of saying we have authorization to secure an airport in kabul. that's it. so that's a question that turns to president biden. how willing president biden mute be? is he going to authorize the phoning go then and open up, you know, expand the perimeter of the airport? open some sort of corridor into kabul to allow people to get in? or the bagram issue, i think that is a long shot. bagram is pretty far. people are having trouble getting to kabul. can you imagine trying to get out to bagram? that's going to be even harder. i don't think bagram is on the table. but at the moment the idea expanding the perimeter beyond the airport doesn't seem to be on the table either. >> in an interview with abc news, president bud enindicated that he actually open to
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extending the withdraw dead line to whenever all americans are out of the country. they're coming up against that august 31st deadline. what about the afghans who helped them? does the u.s. have a moral obligation to them beyond august 31st? to the degree that once all americans are out, will they have to go back potentially and ask the taliban for more time to get those afghan that's worked alongside the americans out of that country? >> i mean personally, i think that americans do have a moral obligation. these are afghan who's risk their lives, who lost family members in the last 20 years because they were targeting even then by the taliban. what is going to happen when the taliban are in control of the country? i watch that interview with president biden. and i watched his speech on what's going on right now. i have to say, for a president who rode the wave of empathy during his election, he is showing very little empathy right now for people who risk their lives to help with the
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american and international mission. it's actually really disheartening to see. there are very callous statements. although he says the buck stops with him, in those speeches, in those interviews, there are a lot of finger pointing to other people. what happened to the buck sops with him? it seems very wrong to me. >> today is a celebration. we're only a few dawes into the taliban rule, if you will. the taliban has assured them that they won't be persecuted. flags and banners are up. people have been left to themselves. is it too premature, too early to say that taliban 2.0 may be different in some regards than what they were in the '90s?
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>> the taliban are definitely presenting an image of forgiveness and inclusive ti. they reached out through afghan media to say they forgive the afghan that's work for the americans. they forgive afghans within the government. build it up to their standards. they spoke to members of a community stating that they were safe now. these are the same people that they were killing. they were having car bombs going into their schools, tack them during the ashura for many years. it does feel like history is repeating itself. i remember they came in and made the same assurances. to the shia community. to the sieks in afghanistan.
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we don't know what is happening in the provinces right now. the cameras are in kabul. the americans are still in kabul. but what is going on? and kandahar and mazar? the rarts aren't good. i can't condition firm the atrocities. there are no camera there. i can confirm from talking to them. but again it,s no the absolute confirmation. it's terrifying to know what happens when the cameras leaf kabul? >> that's a very important question. we'll try to keep the spotlight what is going on in kabul and across the country as well. thank you both for starting us off this hour. >> a woman survived a school shooting on her school bus when she was 15 years old. she now writes in the "new york times," "i feel for my afghan sisters. some members of the taliban say they will not deny winl and girls education or the right to work but given the taliban's history of violently suppressing
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women's rights afghan women's fears are real." joining me now is the executive director of learn afrg. a nonprofit dedicated to education and resource building for women and girls. thank you so much for your time. i understand that you are obviously in afghanistan right now. can you just tell us about your current situation and how do you personally feel being on the ground there right now? are you afraid? are you on the ground? how you are sneelg. >> feeling? >> i'm not afraid. it is not something i should be afraid of. fear is when you fear god, not people, right? and the same time, it has been an exhausting day. getting my stuff out. getting my stuff to kabul. it was no the easy. and getting them on to lists, getting them inside airport. it is horrifying. exhausting and mortifying. you don't understand where you'll end up. >> so you are actually working right now and getting your staff
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out of the country. is that correct? you don't plan on tuning your work in afghanistan at the moment? >> no. we continue. we continue no matter what. but i have to get my staff out. they work with me and i don't want to put them their lives in jeopardy just because they work for me. we continue to work. we continue to build an army of people that will be working on the same thick. we already have our network and we have a strategy in place. severing going to go according to the plan. but that doesn't mean you need people on the ground, especially the staff who faces are known. to be there. >> the taliban and i'm sure you heard it, they're on media outlets. they're doing interviews. they're saying that he will give women rights within their version of the law. and they are okay with women in leadership. do you have any reason to believe them? do you believe what they're saying about how they will
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govern afghanistan? >> i believe them when they women minister and start addressing the other issues. i believe them when they open schools. i believe them when girls can go to work and to their own learning opportunities and learning institutions. i'll believe them then. right now you don't believe this them, no. >> and so what do you say to the outside world to the international community about what you need to do, what they need to do in order to help organizations like yours and what you're fighting for in afghanistan? do you feel that the international community is abandoning you? do you feel they're offering you any kind of support? >> see, right now people are trying to do whatever they can. and trying to get people out. i have been talking to the international community from the morning. and they're doing everything and anything just to get the people out.
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the leaders have to try more. they have to pressure the taliban into accepting the educational rights. but everybody likes leaving their country. not everybody has the resources to leave the country, right? you have to understand that they have to use leverage and use resources to pressure the taliban into accepting women as an educational right. and the taliban are fishing for legitimacy and the world leaders can give it to them only by asking them to accept women to have educational rights. those are not big things to ask for, right? [ inaudible ] >> i'm sure you're speaking to a lot of afghan girls. those that remained in the
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country, what do you say to the women and young girls fearing for their freedom and might be afraid to return to learning right now? what do you say to them? >> we fight together. we stay together. we stick together. and we will learn. we will continue learning. we'll continue going to our jobs. the we'll continue to do whatever we want. yes, of course, i don't want to jeopardize anyone's safety just to prove a point. i'm going to make sure that i do everything in my power that the girl in schools continue to learn. they need to be underground and in schools, be online. and at the same time, women and girls who are working get to continue their work. and anything is possible. they should continue to do whatever they want. just because a few men are in control, doesn't mean they have to change all their life for these men. >> all right. thank you so much for your time.
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i greatly appreciate your insights. stay safe. next, the strategy in afghanistan going forward. what happens if the u.s. needs to extend its deadline to get americans out of the country beyond august 31st? we'll tell you about that. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." about that. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports. get ready. it's time for the savings event of the year. the homeandautobundle xtravafestasaveathon! at this homeandautobundle xtravafestasaveathon, there's no telling what we might bundle! homeandautobundle xtravafestasaveathon! bundle cars, trucks, colonials, bungalows, and that weird hut your uncle lives in. so strike up the homeandautobundle xtravafestasaveathon band for the deal that started forever ago and will probably never end. homeandautobundle xtravafestasaveathon. -say it with me. -homeandautobundle-- no one's leaving till you say it right. homeandauto...
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could be extended. >> our troops are supposed to be out by august 31st. even if americans and our afghan allies are still trying to get out, they're going to? >> we're going to do everything in our power to get all americans out and our allies out. >> does that mean troops will stay beyond august 31st if necessary? >> it depends on where we are. and whether we can can ramp the numbers up to 5,000 to 7,000 a day coming out. if that's the case, they'll all be out. >> joining us to talk about this is retired lieutenant douglas loot. he is a former u.s. ambassador to nato and chair of international and defense practices at the bgr group. given everyone who needs to be evacuated from thousands of americans to people from other countries to the afghans who work the long side us, from your professional expertise, is it
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likely u.s. troops will be in afghanistan past the end of the month? >> look, it's not clear. but the challenge is laid out. in a set of circles. so imagine a set of circles with the uner most circle being the military side of the international airport. the u.s. military now controls. so the chaos we saw awe couple days ago, it's at the center there and has been replaced with a sense of order and discipline. this is where friendly forces are in close face-to-face contact with taliban checkpoints. people have to make it through the checkpoints to get to the evacuation sites. beyond that is another circle. the city of kabul itself. that is totally under taliban control. the really imposing problem is the largest circle yet. and that is the rest of
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afghanistan. where there are also thousands of afghans who worked alongside of us over the last 20 years. so this is -- as you move from the point of evacuation outward, the problem gets more and more severe. i think that's why the president suggested he has some flexibility and more important than the date is getting the evacuations conducted. >> are you concerned that because there is a hard date, meaning there is an actual agreement between the u.s. and the taliban, that says august 31st, is that deadline. you are concerned that post august 31st the taliban's calculation may change? they may say we want the rest of our airport. we want control of that airport. >> i don't think august 31 sst a u.s.-taliban agreement. i think that was the u.s. objected to be completely august
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31st. in general, i think setting deadlines inside the federal government is productive way to conduct business. you have to get a task done by a particular date. all 31st serves that purpose. it also serves the purpose of bringing together the different bureaucracies. nine governmental organizations and so forth. they're all pointed towards the same place and time. beyond that, however, it is a self imposed deadline. i think the president's been clear. more important than the date, august 31st, is the effect and that is as many as possible afghans evacuate. >> let me just finally ask you really quickly. defense secretary said yesterday that it didn't -- it wasn't possible for the u.s. to go beyond the circles that you
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outlined to go deep into afghanistan to evacuate the american allies, not americans, but maybe allies, translators and interpreters. is that possible? do you you this that u.s. has the ability to even fit doesn't necessarily right now have the political will to o to go into various pockets of afghanistan and evacuate those stranded beyond kabul? >> no. i don't think. so not in afghanistan that is controlled by the taliban. this would be a -- an enormous military mission. so i don't think that's in the cards. the ability of the afghans who work alongside of us, who are most remote from kabul in the evacuation site will depend on the ability to get the taliban to agree to let them pass. and that is largely still a question. it's an open issue.
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>> all right. general douglas loot, always a pleasure. thank you for your insights. one doctor calls it astounding. the number of children hospitalized with covid in mississippi is rising. we're live at one hospital where many of the children are now battling both covid and a dangerous inflammatory syndrome. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." syndrome. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports. ♪ someone once told me, that i should get used to people staring. so i did. it's okay, you can stare. when you're a two-time gold medalist, it comes with the territory.
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more than 28,000 students in mississippi are in quarantine because of possible composure to the coronavirus. much that's about 5% of the state's public school students. now this comes as mississippi's department of health reports more than 1600 patients are currently hospitalized with covid. a record high since the start of the pandemic. and doctors are now warning of a rise in the number of children hospitalized with the virus. joining me now from jackson, mississippi, is nbc news correspondent. what are you hearing from the families and doctors that you're talking to there? in this state, there are low vaccination rates. less than 40% of the people that live here are fully vaccinated. vaccination numbers, the amount of doses administered week over week since mid july, it dramatically increased. mid july they were doing one week about 20,000 doses of the covid-19 vaccine.
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last week they did about 70,000 doses. that's helpful. hospitals are not feeling relief from. that doctors are not sure it's the number, the increases are sustainable. they hope it will be. but this garage is a field hospital that just opened yesterday. it is the second field hospital to open here at the university of mississippi medical center. that is for adult patients. those beds treating patients, hospitals across the state are struggling to keep up with the demand. and now as you said, doctors are warning about the numbers they're seeing with children. this is also site of the only children's designated hospital in the states. state. the they have 2800 children hospitalized. the speed at which the numbers have picked autopsy and also the percentage that makes. it's a larger percentage of
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children with covid-19 in terms of the total covid-19 population at this hospital. than they have ever seen since the pandemic began. listen to what pediatrician is seeing and her warning for parents about what they need to be looking for. listen here. >>. >> now we're seeing kids that are more ill, more frequently with covid and even children who have not had previous other illnesses. on top of that, we're just beginning to see an uptick in the post covid-19 associateded syndrome in children which is seg. it is associated with significant morbidity and mortality. we're seeing the cases increase too. >> so that sib drom, they say normally they start to see that in children needing to be hospitalized or coming to the doctors four to six weeks after a community peak. they're starting to see the numbers dramatically jump up now in addition to children being hospitalized because of acute severe covid-19.
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ayman? >> all right. theal you allison barber, thank you for joining us. joining me now is a medical dretor of the pediatric intensive care unit at our lady -- late children's hospital in baton rouge, louisiana. doctor, great to have you with us. the louisiana department of health said that hospitalizations were just ten short of the state's record set yesterday. describe for us what you're seeing at your hospital. >> you know, about last month, a month ago we sounded an alarm of the number of covid-19 patients that we have seen. and unfortunately that has not improved. we it into see record to have a average of nine to ten patiented admitted to our hospital daily with covid-19 with about one or two of the patients ending up needing icu care. this is alarming. just think about to june when we only saw 122 parents in total.
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we have already seen the first two weeks 176 patients presented to our e.r. for care due to covid-19. >> you have seen any long term effects in kids as awe result of covid-19? >> you know, we unfortunately, you know, this is a long term process and problem. we do not know all the effects that covid has on children. so we have currently, you know, we had our first covid death this past week which is a bad thing. we continue to have kids that come into the hospital. some kids require a ventilator. and we also see the patient that's, have you know, what your previous reported reported, misc. and these are complicateses that can have long term effects on kids.
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they can have kidney dysfunction, liver dysfunction. not to mention the kids we have on the breathing tube. the i mean that has a slew of problems that people don't realize. >> i guess a question that a lot of people want to know is what can parents do to prevent their kids from becoming one of your patients. what you would advice? >> the message is clear. it's the same message that we've been trying to put out there. wear your mask. the most important thing is get yourself vaccinated. vaccinate aunts uncles, grandma, grandpa. if the kid go in public, please, wear a mask. i have three kids of my own. when we leave the house, they have a mask on. this is the only way i know to keep them safe. >> dr. anthony fauci was on msnbc earlier today. he said the booster shot may make it harder to convince the vaccine hesitant to et get the first shots. the let me play a part of what
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he said. >> does that mean the vaccine doesn't work? >> the vaccines work. the booster that we're talking about is making sure that that protection which is very high lasts for a long period of time at a high level. we have to get the unvak sun ated people vaccinated. >> what are you hearing from the families of your young patients about getting their vaccination and subsequent booster shot? >> you know, we have not heard much about booster shots from my families. i really we're targeting the ones that i have not yet received the vaccine to go ahead and get the vaccine. i mean, we know that the vaccine works. look at the number of adults in the emergency -- in our hospitals with covid-19 and the number of adults dying from covid-19. they are mainly unvaccinated
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adults. we know it works. whether we need a booster later on, we can discuss that later. right now, let's save their lives right now and get them the first shot at least and the second shot. >> all right. doctor, thank you so much for your time. i greatly appreciate your insights. >> thank you for having me. >> just into us here in the newsroom, u.s. senator john hickenlooper tested positive for covid making him the third senator today that we learned has tested positive despite being vaccinated. and a new report on afghanistan shows the rebuilding effort was tainted with waste, abuse and proud and predicted that after u.s. troops drew the future of the country would be bleak. this report was written before they took over the country. we'll talk to the author next. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." author next. you're watchin"ag yman mohyeldin reports. we welcome change? we can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries,
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there are a lot of questions about why the 20 year u.s. effort there ended the way it did. earlier this week we got some answers. the office of the special inspector general for afghanistan reconstruction released its latest report on the lessons learned from the u.s. mission. now according to the report, 20 years later much has improved and much has not. if it was to impose little threat to u.s. national security interests, the overall picture is bleak. joining us now to talk about this, john southcomb for afghanistan reconstruction whose office wrote that report and sarah chase, a former npr reporter that covered the fall of the taliban and spent years living and working in it afghanistan. she's also the author of the punishment of virtue. are it's great to you have both with us. a lot of finger pointing has
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been done. biggest questions raised by the quick fall of afghanistan, john, is the southern collapse of the afghan army as the taliban advanced. i want to play for what you mark milly had to say about that yesterday. >> i stood behind this podium and said that the afghan security forces had the capacity and by that i mean they had the training, the size, the capability to defend their country. this comes down to an issue of will and leadership. and, no, i did not, nor did anyone else see a collapse of an army that size in 11 days. >> i know you can't speak on untell jens efforts. but there are efforts to build up the forces. should what we saw from the afghan army been a surprise for anyone? >> i think the speed of the collapse. before i say that, thank you very much for inviting me. always a pleasure to meet sarah again.
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i don't think anyone should have been overly surprised. we've been identifying problems with the capability of the afghan military for years. i think the speed of it caught everyone by surprise. >> how much do you think, john, you no he that responsibility lies on how the americans trains the afghan forces and how much is on the afghan army? afghans you speak to say they lost 60,000 soldiers fighting the taliban during this time. they said they had the will but also as we heard from general willie, it is will and leadership. >> there say lot of finger pinting to go around. obviously, we made some terrible mistakes. in training afghans.
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the first mistake going in is we were totally unprepared for doing this type of massive rebuilding during a conflict. we didn't understand the afghan environment as well as we should have. we maud the mistake of making the military a little american army. and a little american air force. and not paying attention to the ability of the afghans to fight on their own or maintain it on their own. we're also responsible for not really emphasizing logistics. this is time of napoleon. armies march on their stomach. if the afghan soldiers were not being paid, not being fed, not being supplied the equipment, not being backed up by other troops not having medical evacuation, not having widows and orphans payments on awe regular basis and dealing with this endemic corruption in the
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country, then are we surprised that the afghan military soldiers were asking a -- an important question. why am i fighting? who am i fighting for? and they left the field. so there is a lot of blame to go around. i think the important thing is we can learn from these mistakes. and we should learn from them. because we will do something like this again. despite what everyone is saying, this has the odor of post vietnam. when we eliminated a lot of our capabilities and state and aid and dod that we will need again. we have done stuff like this, operations like this three times in the last 50 years. and in none of those situations has it turned out right. >> you think we would have learned the lessons. sarah, talk you about how it was
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a catalyst for corruption on both sides. you've seen this. how bad was the corruption and what did it do to mine the u.s. effort in afghanistan? >> a couple of things. one is that it was pervasive and systemic. and that means that, you know, pretty much any time you had any interaction with an afghan government official, if you were ab ordinary person, you had to fork something over. and it's not just the money that was being exhorted from people. it was the way it was exhorted. the amount of humiliation and contempt that was heaped upon ordinary people by those officials and to defend their interests. it was really significant. and it is important to bear that in mind. how insulting it can be. remember the tune to you neegs
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uprising? eat the street level shakedowns were funnels. some of that money was funneled up to the very highest level. it was passed down wards. and all of the contracts as john, you know, has documented and his office documented for years were being skimmed or being captured by members of the network that was really the -- or the networks that were reeling the country. so what i'd like to say, is you know, i would elect to take a step even further back than john just did. and say afghanistan, what's happening today? i mean, i feel like i'm in a wall -- in a mirror here. like let's look at governments that are supposed to perform complex operations on behalf of their populations where the networks of government officials and their kind of cronies and private industry are getting
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enriched by the day. is there not a parallel here between the massive amount of money made over on government contracts between these two wars, afghanistan and iraq and the failures and the way the government of afghanistan has failed? >> sarah chase, sorry, we're having a little bit of an audio problem there. john sop co, thanks to the both of you. greatly appreciate it. afghanistan could soon see the highest number of documented civilian casualties in a single year. we're going to talk to the president of the society about how it's dealing with the humanitarian crisis in the country next. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." n't know. i think they look good, man.
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u.n. published this piece, which warned that the events quickly unfolding in afghanistan rgs which was already going through a drought, had the hallmarks of a catastrophe. and now we're seeing devastating scenes of thousands and thousands trying to get out of the country with some dying in the process. joining me now is president of the afghan society supported by the international committee of the red cross. doctor, thank you so much for your time. tell us about this week and what your organization is seeing and doing on the ground and who needs the most aid right now. >> thank you for inviting me. the red crescent society is a member of the national red cross and our job, one, we're to alleviate human suffering. the situation of humanitarian for the people is really very
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bad. it was already bad, as you said, the u.n. said this before. 18 million people, which is half of the population, is suffering from food insecurity and the government, two weeks ago, together with the u.n., called for $1.3 billion of aid just for drought. now, the whole world watched the images of the people who want to flee the country. this is another disaster, which is exacerbating the already very bad situation. people are suffering from poverty. we are just out of the peak of covid-19 two weeks ago and we are waiting for another wave in almost two months, or less
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maybe, because of the movement and the measures taken by the people that we are watching now, no social distancing, nothing. so the situation -- >> i have ask to you quickly, doctor, i have to ask you really quickly, sorry, because we're almost out of time, but you're doing work on the ground. has the taliban at all interfered in anything that you're doing? >> no. you know, the fall was going on province by province, and we have 34 branches with six regional offices, and each one, they got in contact with us and told us that as long as we are neutral and impartial, we can continue to work. so we haven't seen any interference or very little and we continue, including myself. >> we're going to continue to follow this story with you and check with you throughout the
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