dame. so if cincinnati who brings -- and georgia all that can he handle in the sugar bowl, if they win those two games, cincinnati may not have ceiling, i think they got a real shot. >> we'll be watching. and thank you for the vandy shout out. new coach, a new day in nashville. new book is "out of the pocket." we'll be watching you and the guys up in the booth all season long on espn. kirk, great to see you. congrats on the book. and that does it for us. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle. we start with afghanistan. as we speak, president biden is preparing to meet with his national security team less than two hours from now. he will address the situation in afghanistan in public remarks

early this afternoon. it comes amid frustratingly slovak evacuation process from kabul. the united states has the capacity to evacuate 9,000 people a day, but instead we've evacuated just 9,000 total in a week. that includes 350 americans who were flown out in the last 24 hours. but that is just a fraction of the 15,000 americans who may be stuck in afghanistan right now. in fact the pentagon admitted yesterday that they are not even sure how many americans are still there. and then there are tens of thousands of afghans also trying to get out of the country, nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel has that story. >> reporter: we are in doha and we took one of the evacuation flights from the kabul airport. that is the only way out of the country right now, the only safe way. the civilian airport is closed and all of the land crossings to other countries are controlled

by the taliban. it was a long flight, it complicated journey and for many life-changing. this is what you have to face to get into the last remaining u.s. base at kabul airport. shooting, violence, tell ban whips. and desperate crowds. it is so chaotic, american troops worry if they open the gates people will flood in. one video appears to show a soldier lifting a baby up over the walls. inside the base, afghans are processed for departure and moved to the flight line. that is where we met gina, an afghan american from virginia. she moved back to afghanistan to teach six years ago when it was much safer. >> it was a dream come true for me. i had a little house by the mountains. i can not imagine leaving. but unfortunately it is time to go. >> you left obviously the house -- >> everything.

everything. everything. small little suitcase with my laptop and that is it. >> reporter: she is bringing 25 members of her extended family. she doesn't want to leave. >> you are looking up at the afghan flag. >> i don't know how much longer it will be there, but this is really sad. i don't know if we'll be back. i'm hoping, but i don't know if i'll ever be back. >> reporter: eventually the c-17 arrives and taxis into position for boarding. for gina, it sinks in. this is it. these are moments that change the trajectories of families for generations. troops keep arriving, there are more troops here now to oversee the evacuation than were here stabilizing the government. gina's relatives give final hugs. they don't want to be leaving either. but they don't want to live under the take taliban. finally it is boarding time. for gee that, a painful good-bye. for most of the afghans on

board, this is the start of their new lives as refugees. because the evacuations have become so much more chaotic, it is changing who is being evacuated, who is getting on those flights. the process was set up to bring out american citizens, foreign contractors and afghans who worked closely with american troops. they were supposed to have submitted their forms online to the state department, arrived with packets proving their identities. instead the state department is processing when these flights arrive unaccompanied miners, people who have no documentation at all, and they don't exactly know who it is they are receiving. richard engel, nbc news, doha, qatar. let's bring in our own nbc monica alba at the white house and retired 4 star army general barry mccaffrey. 9,000 people evacuated is a great accomplishment. i'm glad they are somewhere safe. but we know it is not moving as quickly as it could be.

why not? >> because of the challenges that richard illuminated just now. the scene inside the airport, the administration will tell you they feel pretty good about, they feel that the situation is far more under control of course than it was a couple of days ago. but circumstances outside the airport they continue to say are beyond their control. and that is what is presenting to be so difficult for those who want to get through these taliban checkpoints and that we're hearing reports of are simply not able to do so. and the united states has basically told anybody who wants to get on these flight, you are solely responsible for getting yourself to the airport and then we'll help you get on the plane. so obviously still a major logistical logjam there, one we expect president biden to address later this afternoon when he is going to speak on the crisis in afghanistan. he hasn't taken questions for multiple reporters sense addressing and really defending this decision on monday, so that is something we're watching for

as well. but he really remains defiant and he is deflecting blame and that is something else i think that we can expect to hear from him later today, the president will argue that lot of the american people support his decision, he is going to point potentially to some polling though of course we don't have the latest numbers given everything we've seen unfold this week, but he is going to say that he has no regrets about this decision and then he will also provide a more incremental and technical update, something we've seen the white house do more of just in the last 24 to 48 hours whereas the departments of defense and state were taking the lead on that initially, the white house overnight talking about how many people they were able to get out, that 3,000 number yesterday evacuated, of those the white house says only 350 were american citizens. the rest were afghan nationals, their families, the special immigrant visa holders. so they are trying to make the point that they are helping these others who helped us for two decades while also

americans. but the pace is not where they want to be yet. and they have said that they would like to get 5,000 to 9,000 people out a day, that is not the situation right now. another new detail we're learning about is the u.s. military is helping now if a facilitate charter flights that are also helping to get hundreds of thousands of people out, but we don't have details about the makeup of those groups so far. >> general, the president is right, the majority of the american people want us out of afghanistan. that is not what we're discussing. we're talking about how it is getting done. because this last week has been a mess. we know that the u.s. embassy in kabul was warning the state department to start these evacuations a month ago. they didn't. first few days were obviously rough. do you think that they are getting better, are they moving towards the right track? >> well, i don't think that there is much question that we now have solid control of the international airfield. single runway surrounded by mountains, giant 4.5 million

city. we securely hold the airfield. the u.s. air force can move masses of people. so their whole global lift effort now is focused on that one runway. the problem is and will remain the taliban hold all the cards. they can close that air space in any given hour. they hold thesiv -- i got an email last night from an officer asking for help. is he likely to show credentials as an intelligence agent? of course not. so the refocus has to be get the americans and nato civilians and ngos out of there. there will be almost no vetting going on at that airfield. we have 4,000 people in the embassy, we had a year to get much of this done and we didn't

do it for bureaucratic reasons. so as richard engel points out, they are not screening people worth a hoot. so it will be a tragic situation all over afghanistan. americans, ngos, afghans who work with us are unlikely to get out through that airfield. they will have to go out through adjoining countries. pakistan, iran, central asian republic, you name it. >> john kirby has not yet given us any detailed information about how many americans are even there. monica, we have a lot of travel restrictions because of covid. what is the administration saying or doing about vaccinations for the people who are coming in from afghanistan? >> we don't yet know exactly how they are handling that because before they even get to that point, we're told and the state departmental looted to this alluded to this that their priority is to get tell out safely.looted to this

alluded to this that their priority is to get tell out safely. after that at third country processing centers because the flights aren't direct to the united states, there has been some covid testing we understand and depending on what countries have what rules, they are trying to enforce those. but overall here given how chaotic the situation is, typically refugees would undergo some kind of medical screening, but the state department we're told has issued a more blanket humanitarian waiver here again just as it relates to testing. so we're not even talking about vaccinations at this point. that is something that it seems like would be dealt with down the road. but the bottom line answer right now is that there isn't a complete clear picture of how they are dealing with these thousands of people both the americans and afghans who are coming into the country because again, number one job for them at least according to the biden administration is to get them out of the danger and into these other places before they deal with some of these secondary factors. but we have asked dhs and state

to try to get more information. >> general, earlier this week there were all sorts of questions around why didn't the of a afghan soldiers fight back harder. but now there are reports that the taliban is going house for house looking for former afghan soldiers and security forces and their families. anything that we should do to protect them? >> nothing. we have no leverage left in afghanistan. we're not going to re-enter the country, we're not going to expand the footprint out of the kabul airport. what, feet fight our way downtown? a lot of the discussions are nonsensical. i think what is the case is the taliban had a better political message, they were even northern alliance areas of afghanistan and gained acquiesce sense that they were moving in. it going triggered by president

biden's decision to evacuate all u.s. military. a decision i believe was set up solely by trump's farcical peace treaty. however this is what is now playing out. and it is going to be a tragic scene. the taliban are much smarter than they were 20 years ago, so they will probably keep the optics in kabul less brutal than will eventually be imposed upon all the 40 million people of afghanistan. girls, women, it is all over. we have no leverage. except some money, we have some of their funds in hand. but the taliban will look to pakistan and china primarily for support going forward. >> and they have all sorts of weapons now. they are using ours. general, thank you so much. monica, thank you as well. we'll leave it there. this situation is complicated. coming up, the debate over masks, it is heating up across

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positive for breakthrough cases of covid-19. they all have just mild symptoms. and new this morning, cnbc reporting job openings requiring vaccinations are up, this is good news, 90% this month compared to july. ellison barber is joining us from mississippi, jake ward in california and dr. scott gottlieb on the board of pfizer and also the author of the upcoming book "uncontrolled spread." ellison, you have been in mississippi for days and it is getting hit hard because of the low vaccination rates. but i know you talked to some people who have a change of heart. what is making them change their minds? >> reporter: for some people, it is seeing the rising numbers here,'sing the two field hospitals that have been built in parking garages within six days of one opening, another one

opening. it is seeing ambulances waiting in bays at their local hospitals because rooms are not open. and for a lot of people, it is being impacted directly by this. it is they get sick or if someone close to they wills sick that they are finally reconsidering. we met one woman, laquita brown, her son was just released from the icu at this hospital. he is 17 years old. she said that they had questioned about the vaccines and they were torn on whether or not to get it, they were doing their research, trying to find answers. she said they had decided that she and the rest of her family would get vaccinated but they decided too late. her 17-year-old son tested positive for covid-19. listen to what she told us. >> we should have done it a lot sooner and i'm thankful that the

end result was not heartbreaking. >> did you ever think when he was in the hospital, when he was at home, that he might not make it? >> yes, of course i did. he was having a lot of problems with breathing. and i cried a lot of nights when he was in icu and i prayed out to god. >> reporter: and they wanted to speak to us even though he can barely speak above a whisper because he is still struggling to breathe, because they are hoping others will learn from their ins take. it is a decision you heard her say that she regrets not deciding to get vaccinated sooner. now they have to wait for doctors to clear her son so that they can get vaccinated. she said that they will do that as soon as they get the go-ahead from medical professionals. but he was the first to test pot in their family and it then spread throughout their

household. the only person in their entire household who did not test positive was an uncle. and he is also the only person fully vaccinated. stephanie. >> wow. sometimes it takes seeing people you know and love to actually get sick to realize how important this is. jake, take us to san francisco. you are in a city that has very, very good vaccine numbers and now the vaccine mandate is in effect for indoor activities. overwhelmingly, are people happy about it? >> reporter: this is the city you would have laid odds might put that kind of policy in place. you will recall that it was the very first city to lock down back at the beginning of the pandemic. and right now 18 months later the very first city to require that indoor activities also come with the requirement of having a vaccination card. that means that your personal trainer, the bartender, the maitre d' has to under the new city ordinance has to check your

vaccine status. that is unprecedented. so we spoke to business owners across the city to find out what does this day and the days forward look like. we spoke to ron silverstein who own as thirsty bear, an after work bar, that basically lost a decimal place off of his revenue, we asked him whether he worried that this new vaccine requirement might hurt his business further. have a listen. >> if it gives people confidence to go out and to patronize their local bars and restaurants and gyms and this sort of thing, if it makes them feel safer, then it is a fantastic thing. it is not these decisions i don't think that is causing our fundamental problem of not having business. it is this horrible pandemic that is killing people. >> reporter: it is not clear yet how exactly enforcement will work here, but as of today, if

you are going into a bar, you have to be checked. and as of october 13, employees at that bar also have to be vaccinated. it is a grand experiment here in san francisco. stephanie. >> dr. gottlieb, does enforcement of these mask mandates or the rules get more complicated when you factor in the booster? today apple announced that they are pushing back the return to work date to february. so let's say i go back to work next february and i've been vaccinated, i got both shots but i haven't had the booster, will that count as being vaccinated? how will we know? >> i'd be very surprised to see businesses require a third dose to qualify for being fully vaccinated. i think the first two doses will qualify an individual for being construed as being fully vaccinated. at some point as we get further into this, as people get further out from their primary series, perhaps businesses will start to require boosters. but i don't envision that happening until after -- certainly after this delta epidemic surge.

but even after the fall and winter. after all a lot of people have been vaccinated over the summer or recently vaccinated and so it will be fresh and carry them through certainly the delta surge. >> but if vaccine efficacy drops over time, do these mandates, will they have dates on when you need to be vaccinated by? >> it is a good question. again, i don't think that they are going to tie these mandates, these requirements, to a third booster. businesses are asking to be vaccinated by a certain date in order to return to work. people getting vaccinated right now will be in a good position because they will have a vaccine that is fresh providing them good immunity through the delta wave of infection. and one of the reasons why we might be seeing declining efficacy of the original primary series is that the doses were spaced close together. one conversation people could

have with their physician is how to properly space the doses apart so people can make an individual decision about how they receive the vaccine. >> money motivates people. axios is reporting that unvaccinated covid patients who end up hospitalized are increasingly on the hook for big bills. their insurance will not cover it. how much do you think that could have an impact on encouraging people to get vaccinated? >> i don't think that it will really have an impact on the margins or on a wholesale basis. i think people who are choosing to go unvaccinated, many of them are people who don't think that covid will affect them and certainly don't think that they will require hospitalization as a result of the covid. so i don't think that they are looking far enough down the field to see the implications both public health and clinical implications and the risks that they are taking. but certainly the financial implications that there could be costs associated, you're right insurance companies now are no longer covering the out of

pocket expenses associated with hospitalizations related to covid. initially they were and now they are starting to pull back. >> if care gets rationed, we know that there are some states with no icu beds left, should vaccine status be a factor in who gets a bed? >> i don't think that you can really do that in this setting because there is a lot of other set beings where people choose not to get vaccinated when they require hospitalization. we don't make those judgments. certainly flu is one of those. i would admit a lot of patients with influenza and many were unvaccinated. we didn't differentiate in terms of how we distributed care whether or not someone got the vaccine. so i don't think that we'll go down that path, but certainly we need to do all we can to encourage people to get vaccinated. >> scott, stay with us because we have to talk masks. we are getting a first look at how the mask orders are playing out in schools across the

country. some governors are trying to ban local districts from requiring students to wear them. i really don't understand why. the interim superintendent of florida's broward county public schools says only one student and one teacher in the entire district refused to wear mask on the first day of school, wouldn't follow the mandate. this is a district with more than 250,000 students. i want to bring in the interim superintendent of broward county public schools. vicky, that is extraordinary. only one teacher and one student refused to wear masks in a state where the governor is fighting against wearing masks. were you expecting a lot more pushback? >> we were anticipating some pushback on this. we've been aggressive in trying to push out the message that it is required in order for our students to be able to come on campus. and as well with our staff members. so it was a little surprising. we did have people coming on campus without the masks, but we

just simply would you please put a mask on and offered them a mask and they put it right on. and fell right in with what we needed them do in order to protect everybody. >> we have heard the governor threaten that you are going to get money withheld from the state for implementing the mask mandate. has that happened yet? >> not at this point in time. we are awaiting whatever sanctions that the commissioner will apply to the district. we know that there is a lette coming to us but we have not received it yet. >> scott, there are so many problems. lives being lost, learning lost, what is your reaction to the amount of time and resources being wasted arguing over masks for students? >> i think this is a deeply unfortunate debate we're having. i think governors should be leaving discretion to the local officials to make decisions about how to employ the best mitigation to keep children safe. first goal has to be keep

children safe and try to keep schools open. in florida they have had a lot of outbreaks and they have had to effectively close the school. so they have lost part of their school year. different schools, different local districts have different resources available to them in terms of how to employ mitigation. they have different ventilation systems, different requirements on spacing or different opportunities to keep students spaced apart. so some districts will need masks because they have not have other alternatives. we should leave discretion to the local districts to make decisions. it is unfortunate that that governors have intervened. >> and for anyone who says little kids aren't going to know how to wear mask, i invite them to go to any lower schools. kids are great. grown ups are not so hot. thank you for joining us. we'll leave it there. coming up, the president is set to speak today as evacuation efforts continue slowly in afghanistan. we'll be speaking to one veteran about what he needs to hear from the commander in chief, next. det

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this morning many u.s. veterans are scrambling to get afghan allies they worked alongside out of kabul. our nation's longest war ending in chaos after the afghan government fell quickly to the taliban leaving many of our veterans wondering what their sacrifice was really for. but this week general mark milley answered had very

question. >> every soldier, sailor, air monday, marine who fought or conducted operation in afghanistan should hold their head high. for more than 20 years, we have prevented an attack on the u.s. homeland. i want you to know personally that your service mattered. >> i know our next guest service mattered. he is founder of veterans of america and of course a veteran himself. paul, how important was it for general milley to say that? >> it was good talk but now he has to back it up. if general milley and this white house want to show that they really value the sacrifice of the millions of then and women who served since 9/11, they need to fix this humanitarian mess, level with the american people and listen to us. i know the president is going to speak again soon because he needs to.

because he has really lost the trust of so many americans here because he hasn't been straight with people about how bad it is on the ground. this is a humanitarian disaster and now it has become a political disaster for him and what he really needs do is reset things. what happened to the old joe biden, what happened to the consoler in chief? he has been a very different person for the last week. he's dug in, been defensive, blaming the afghans. what we need is a total reset and a plan for how to save our friends that are left behind. and then we'll believe him and others that they really value our service and that they are listening to us. >> but paul, no matter what he says, even if he says the right things, isn't your response going to be i'll believe it when i see it? because that is what he said about mark milley oig who said the right things. >> yeah, and that looks like getting people out who were standing at the gate tying. right? like there is a bit lost here. we're not talking about the last 20 years or whether or not we

should have been in afghanistan. we're talking about what the government does right now to save tens of thousands of people specifically interpreters who we made a promise to and that promise is being broken. you have kids, stephanie, i have kids. imagine how bad things have to be for a mother to hand a baby over razor wire to a stranger. that is the realty that you are show on your network all week. but it is disconnected from the white house. why are they dragging their feet, why isn't every plane full and why didn't we do it four months ago. that is what the american public needs to hear and especially what american veterans need to hear. but it is not about us, it is about a gut check for america and about the future and what is next and that is what we need to hear from the president now. >> i want to go back to four months ago, right? i have obviously never been to afghanistan. when i read reports and i hear thousands of americans living there, nonmilitary americans, who are they, what are they doing there?

>> they are people who stood alongside of us, interpreters, transl translators, contractors, people who worked on the bases. there are some american citizens, journalists still there. this is a complete debacle. we supported getting out but not like this. it didn't have to go like this. and you will hear the messaging out of the white house, it is starting to sound like the bush administration of 2003, like the response after katrina. they don't understand that our inboxes are overflowing with friends over there right now stuck in what is like i've described it as a dmv line from hell. they can't get through the bureaucracy. if they don't get to the front of that line, they die. that is how high the stakes are right now and biden needs to show he really understands that. >> with the taliban going after them along the way. the government has said they did not expect the afghan military to fall, government, so quickly.

however, why wouldn't the government be working to get people evacuated over the last few months? it is not a surprise that we were pulling out. >> that is exactly the right question. and that is what joe biden needs to answer. failing to plan is planning to fail. and it is clear that this white house did not have an adequate plan to get out americans much less afghans who were on the ground. so they need to figure out how they can do a reset here and there needs to be accountability. who is going to be held accountable for these failures. if they didn't anticipate this, why not? military is supposed to anticipate every contingency. if they didn't think it could go worse because they weren't watching your network because me and plenty others were saying that it could happen a lot faster than 30 days. and now our equipment is being used defenses. so i think that this will haunt the biden administration because it is breaking the trust, it is breaking the trust of the american people and we don't know if we can trust him. so he has to show us today that we can and it has to be more than talk, it has to be action.

>> the dmv line from hell. except of course your life is at risk. paul, always good to see you. thank you for joining us. your insights matter. you can catch his podcast, independent americans, wherever you get your podcasts. and if you are a veteran struggling with your mental health, please, please know that you are not alone. you are appreciated. and you can call the veterans crisis hotline at 1-800-273-8255. press one or text 838255. or visit veterans crisis line.net. is line.net

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different location, hiring in-person care and starting my day much earlier to watch her. it is actually horrific. >> reporter: for the 27 million americans who need child care in order to work, it is a hefty it. for young children averaging $250 a week or $13,000 a year, that cost could rise as four out of every five childcare centers say they don't have enough staff. >> the biggest challenge right now is finding and retaining high-quality staff. >> during the pandemic more than a third of worker lost their jobs. some never returned to childcare centers. >> childcare facilities are having to compete with higher wages from a lot of large multinational corporations. >> rose curbing oversees 11 childcare centers. >> we had to close a number of our programs and rooms.

>> how come? >> we don't have enough staff. wee down about 50 staff. >> reporter: to find workers she increased starting pay by $2 an hour. until she gets more staff, her waiting list will likely grow. >> if you're down a clerk at the convenience store, the line would be longer, the service would be slower. that's not an option in childcare. >> reporter: the federal government has provided covid release for child care, and president biden wants $450 billion as part of his build back better agenda. it includes -- are you able to do your best at work? >> i don't think so. that stereo typical mom guilt of where i'm not being the best employees, i'm not being the best mom. it hurts your heart. a growing problem with no easy solution. i want to bring in nathan, a

cofounder and chief strategy officer for airbnb. nathan, you and other business leaders met with vice president harris about child care last week. what does the federal government want? >> the united states is the only industrialized country in the world without a national policy. we were sharing our experience at airbnb we have been offering parents ten weeks paid leave that they can use over the course of the year as they see fit, both for mother and father. women get an additional 12 weeks for pregnancy recovery. then we have a phased return-to-work program. parents can come in four days a week and still receive 100% pay. what we found by offering all of this, it allows us to retain talent, that parents don't have to make their choice between

careers and being good parents, raising their children. talent is a very scarce resource, and if we lose talent, we lose all the institutional knowledge that goes with that person. it takes a long time to rehire, especially in this environment of the pandemic. >> but it's not just maternity leave, paternity leave, phased back-to-work. we have child care issues until our kids go to college. we're going into a year where we could be back to virtual school pretty quickly. does corporate america need to consider more aggressive policies, more support for their workers if they want to get them back in the office, or just attract them to work for them? >> yeah, i think this is a very important issue that's become very apparent during the pandemic, especially when we're all on zoom, working from home. it suddenly shines a light on the fact there are kids in the

background and parents are juggling, caring no their kids. whether they're working from home or going to the office, it's still a reality that child care is needed. i recall talk to go a number of parents, and not only is it expensive, but oftentimes it's just not available. there's waiting lists to get in. oftentimes it's not proximate to your home or to your office. it's inconvenient. you have to piece together multiple solutions. all of that takes time out of your days, and time is a very scarce resource for they parents. >> to that point we're treating this work-from-home situation as though it were a snow day, but we're in this for months and months. how much is it hurting bottom-line productivity in your company, in business when,

you're right, we are working full time from home and parenting full time. it's pretty messy. >> yeah, we definitely recognize that parents are going through a difficult time over the last year. as we reopen offices, we definitely want to prioritize parents having access to the facilities first, you know, if it's helpful to the situation. we have parents working out of studio apartments, right? it's difficult to share space in that environment, especially if both parents are working from home during this period. additionally we want -- we see a lot of our employees have move to other states to be closer to family. what we have said until september 1 of 2022, so a whole year from now, that they have permission to work remotely, if they choose. that's helpful, because they're thinking about enrolling their kids in school, relocating from another state, so there's, you know, big decisions they are

making. they have a long lead time and this is the flexibility we're trying to offer to help parents navigate these times. >> all of that geographic exploration has been a good hookup for airbnb. nathan, good to see you. thank you for joining us. that wraps up this hour. garrett haake picks up breaking news after the break. and at 11:00 i -- tweet your questions now, and we'll answer them. we'll answer them

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