question, who should we pair when fat joe returns? thank you for watching and thank you for your patience. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. hey, joy. >> i love "the beat" is a democracy. i love that. i'm pro-democracy. i say it on my twitter handle. thank you very much. have a good evening. good evening. we begin tonight with a major break through in a different time of forever war, the war against covid-19. today the federal drug administration granted full approval to the pfizer vaccine, making it the first covid vaccine to pass this pivotal hurdle. the designation is the game changer that this country desperately needs. it allows institutions like the military and businesses and schools and universities to adopt mandates. it may also lift public confidence in the shots, something president biden addressed today in his message to the unvaccinated. >> if you are one of the millions of americans who said

that they will not get the shot when it is -- until it has full and final approval of the fda, it has now happened. the moment you have been waiting for is here. it is time for you to go get your vaccination and get it today. today. >> the president also urged businesses to require employees to get vaccinated now that the pfizer shot is fully approved. it signals a shift from a vaccine push to a vaccine must. frankly, it couldn't come at a more crucial time. the health care system, frankly, is collapsing in parts of the country due to the strain of the unvaccinated. a group of around 75 south florida doctors staged a walk-out today to protest the number of unvaccinated covid patients flooding into their hospital. now the anti-vaxxers, they seem to have a thing for death and home remedies, claiming the new covid cure is livestock dewormer. that's right, a drug bought at a

feed store meant to prevent parasites in pigs and cows and such, leading in an uptick in calls to poison control. this is a group ingesting medicine for an animal that weighs a ton or more than humans do. so we get it. talking sense into some of them is tough. but a bigger part of this public health crisis is who some of the unvaccinated are listening to, people with influence, with far reach, people like phil valentine, a prominent conservative radio host in tennessee where covid is so bad the national guard is supporting hospital staff and where a third, a third of all new cases are children. valentine scoffed at the need for vaccines. he wrote on his blog that his chances of dying from covid were, quote, way less than 1%. he was doing his own research, as they say. but unlike your unvaccinated uncle or neighbor, valentine broadcast this information over the airwaves and then valentine got covid and then he announced

his diagnose in july. less than two weeks later his radio station announced that the host was hospitalized and suffering from covid pneumonia. by this point valentine finally understood his error and urged others to get the vaccine. he said that he was never anti-vaccine, just not pro vaccine, something he came to regret. valentine promised a speedy return but he didn't return. after a month-long battle with covid phil valentine is now dead. joining me is dr. chris purchase nell, a public health physician, and mara gay, a member of "the new york times" editorial board. i have to go to you first, dr. burnell, as a physician and someone who lost your dad unfortunately to covid. when you hear stories like that of phil valentine and another guy, dig farrell, a conservative radio host, his friends and family at the end said he urged people to get the vaccinate but it was too late for him, too late for phil valentine. when you hear those stories, how

does it hit you? >> joy, it is heartbreaking. i don't want to see anyone lose their life, especially to something that's preventable at this point. look, when i lost my father back on april 13th, 2020, we weren't here. we didn't have these vaccines available to the public. there was so much we still didn't know about coronavirus and my father still does not have to be another person's story. this not only breaks my heart but it puts a fire in my belly to shame on politicians and public officials who are knowingly leading people astray, leading people to death. let's just make it really frank. it is time for those of us who know better, who can understand that science and translate it with common sense and plain spokenness, and we speak loudly and speak clearly. >> amara, i know you suffered through covid, you talked about it on msnbc. you have been through it. i think we all know people who are anti-vaxxers and who are insistent and they have self-declared themselves experts. i know people who because they

had covid, they think that they're immune to covid. they will not listen to anything you say. every argument you give, they have a counterargument and there's no getting anywhere with folks that had covid. you as somebody who is not just a journalist but somebody who dealt with this, what do you say to people who say, well, i had covid so i'm immune or i don't believe in the vaccine? at this point where is your frustration level at? >> well, first of all, i want to say dr. purnell, i'm so sorry for your loss. i know how horrible those months were in april, that's when i got sick, and my heart goes out to your family. i thank you for speaking publicly about it. i know it is not easy to do. i want to say, you know, the frustration that i have is pretty much peak frustration as with the majority of responsible americans who have taken the steps to get the vaccine to protect themselves, those they love and those they don't even know. but i think it is really kind of a war we have to fight on all fronts. i don't know that i am the best messenger to convince somebody

who does not want to get the vaccine. if somebody is open to it, i have had a couple of folks say to me over the summer, hey, can you talk about what your experience was getting it, i'm nervous, i'm happy to share. but i think that there may be good messengers for specific communities, and i think that might be the best push at this point. whether it be a pastor, a friend, a family member, i talked to two young men who are working for new york city's test/trace core initiative, our vaccine initiative this week shall and they told me they had convinced their parents to get the vaccine and it took days of sitting around the kitchen table to do so. so that's really a successful effort, but this is kind of really labor intensive. i think there may be a portion of the population that we don't reach through anything except for a mandate. so i think it is more than one answer. i think the other thing that's really important to just consider is on the whole, you know, doctors and the public

health infrastructure are just doing a herculean work, but i think it is really important that they just be transparent, every level, about what they know and what they don't know because i think from day one americans have been told kind of conflicting reports about what the level of risk is as an individual. oh, you will be fine if you are healthy and young. oh, well, maybe not. you know, is it airborne? turns out yes. initially we didn't know that. so just being honest and forthright about what it is that we know and what it is that we don't know, that alone can help engender trust. i mean as a journalist if we're in possession of public information, we -- see it as an obligation to report that public information to the public. so i do think it is a time of, you know, fighting this war on all fronts, but also reflection for every corner of society and all of our institutions, what can we be doing better. >> well, you know, some of the things we did know, first of all

the president of the united states at the time, he knew it was airborne. he admitted later on, right, called up an author and said, "hey, guess what i knew last february, that it was airborne." we also knew it was killing, you know, a good percentage, like somebody described it today as russian roulette, maybe you will live, maybe you will recover, maybe you will get long covid, maybe you will die. people are playing this russian roulette, doctor, in a way it is becoming infuriating. i'm with paul krugman who talked about the frustration who gave up all of our going out and everything to do the right thing and do as we are told as the science changed. we are all trying to do the right thing and there are people who are insisting on not. i'm going to give you two examples of what mara was talking about, messengers and maybe the stories of people. on one hand reverend jesse jackson, we learned over the weekend he and his wife jackie both have covid. he is 79 years old. he is fully vaccinated. he got his vaccine on january 8th. he did a public event. he urged others to get it. we know his wife, jacqueline

jackson, is not vaccinated. that was confirmed by long-time family spokesman frank watkins. she is unvaccinated. that's one household where you have differing vaccine statuses. on the other hand you have donald trump, the guy i just mentioned, who knew how deadly it was and didn't tell anybody except bod woodward. here he is today trying to reverse himself on the idea of whether people should get vaccinated. take a listen. no, this is this weekend. >> i believe totally in your freedoms, i do. you got to do what you have to do. yes, but i recommend taking the vaccines. i did it. it is good. take the vaccines. but you got -- no, that's okay. that's all right. you got your freedoms, but i happen to take the vaccine. if it doesn't work, you'll be the first to know. >> he got booed. he has lost control of, you know, the asylum at this point. he gets booed for saying, take the vaccine, and he immediately goes, okay, no worries, you gonna send me more money because i got more texts and i need more

cash, no problem, and backed down. i feel like if reverend jesse jackson had a testimony about covid having experienced it with he being in one vaccine status and his wife another, i could see the community listening to him. trump can't get those people who are ideologically opposed to being vaccinated to even listen to him. your thoughts? >> look, as far as it goes for the former president, if you talk out of both sides of your mouth it is like not saying anything at all. that's, unfortunately, what he has done. what we need are credible and trustworthy people in various different communities, whether those are black and brown communities, whether those are rural communities or urban communities, whether those are local pastors, whether it is a person in your family. if you have been vaccinated sharing your story is going to be crucial. it is going to be significant for someone who is still on the fence, but i really, really, my heart goes out to the southern states in particular where the

unvaccinated proportion of the community is just staggering. we need people in those regions, in those groups, those spheres of influence to stand up and to say, you may have heard lies, you may have heard distortions, you may have heard disinformation in the past, but people are losing their lives on a daily basis and it does not have to be that way, joy. >> it doesn't. i mean you are hearing stories of doctors having to turn away cancer patients because their hospital icu beds, the beds are full, no beds left. you are hearing stories of little kids, a little girl, a 12 year old in mississippi who died from covid. you are hearing these stories day after day. mara, as somebody who is in the business of disseminating information, i just do wonder, i mean i'm at a high frustration level at this point with the unvaccinated but i see them as two groups. you have a lot of african-americans dead set against getting it and they all have the same talking points. they say the same thing, i want to know what the origin is, and then you have the right-wing

republicans saying what they're hearing on fox news. do you have wisdom for us as a public communicator, how do we get to the people who created self-declared expertise on something they're not scientists on, something they're not experts on but they've declared they're experts? >> i think the first thing to do is to listen, understand in cases obviously where there's some what we call vaccine hesitancy, which is often based not in fact but, you know, it is a conversation point. the first step is to listen to try to understand why they're hesitating. the second step is to find a credible messenger to help them really make the right decision. then i actually think the third step is cultural pressure, so whether that, again, comes from a pastor, comes from an employer or comes from your doctor, right, to kind of send messages on multiple fronts it is something you need to do not just for yourself but for others. i mean one of the most tragic things that i have seen, i have been reading a lot of stories in local newspapers across the country, people saying, "i wish

that i had taken the vaccine." they're either on their death bed or they're speaking after the death of a loved one. i think, you know, not only is that devastating, but it really -- we have to ask ourselves the question, why do we have to wait until somebody we know or us, ourselves, are affected to care? i mean there has been a massive breakdown in empathy in this country and in responsibility to a community. so we have a lot of work to do, and it is not going to be the vaccine, is really not going to cure that. i do think mandates are a huge part of the answer. >> yes. >> and that's got to be putting pressure on people, too. we have to fight this on all fronts. >> fomo is maybe the only thing. you can't go here, you can't go there, you have to show your vax card or you don't get to work here, it has to be mandates because i think even doctors, you can't expect them to have endless empathy when people are not listening to you.

it is so frustrating. doctor, i want to echo mara gay giving you condolences, i want to also. i appreciate you both. hawaii's lieutenant governor, who also happens to be an er doctor, is trying to protect people from dying of covid. and for his efforts, he's being attacked, including some really hateful, awful anti-semitic stuff. he joins me tonight. plus, with covid raging in their state texas republicans are focused on something much more important to them, ramping up their voter suppression efforts. beto o'rourke joins me on how democrats are fighting back. and a member of congress just got married. well, congratulations! the bride is 26 years old, somewhat older than you would expect of this particular character. for a wedding gift we made him tonight's absolute worst. "the reidout" continues after this. wnloaded the td ameritrade mobile app? yeah, actually i'm taking one last look at my dashboard

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for 38 days democratic members of the texas state house showed the country how to stand up for democracy. dozens of lawmakers left the state and faced threats of arrest rather than allowing texas republicans to pass a blatantly partisan voter suppression bill. now that the democrats are back, democrat -- republicans are putting that bill on the express track, pushing everything else aside that should matter like dealing with the deadly rise in covid in texas, with children filling up icu beds not to mention their crumbling infrastructure. what seems to be most important to the republican lawmakers above all else is stopping millions of people from voting. no better way to get away with rotten leadership than to make it all but impossible for the people to i right?

you, representative hinojosa. i want to give you a little color. this is stuff you know, but for our viewers, right now in texas there's reporting that the new texas covid surge could be worse than anything seen yet. here is the new spike in cases in july. july 1st, seven day average, 1,464 new cases. one month later, 17,508 new cases. how many icu bets remain in the entire state of texas with 29 million people? that is 347 for 29 million people. the total number of cases in texas is now north of 3.4 million and the total number of deaths is 55,522. that's like some countries. yet your state legislature, here is their list of agenda items for their special session. this is what they find important. overhauling bail to make it harder for people arrested to bond out of jail without any

cash. election changes, which they're calling election integrity meaning make it hard to vote. border security, extra funding for law enforcement. social media censorship, going after facebook. themselves. family violence prevention, don't know what that means. limiting access to school sports team for transgender students, lest some transgender girl try to play soccer. abortion-inducing drugs banning getting them through the mail, and other payments for retired texas teachers, but meanwhile texas teachers teaching are facing covid and, of course, critical race theory. your thoughts? >> well, because it wasn't enough we passed a critical race theory bill that banned critical race theory once before, we have to do it again in a special session. it is all ridiculous. it is all republican red meat for greg abbott, our governor's primary. it is a shame. to your point we should be focused on the health and safety of texans. instead, what we see our state doing is taking power away from

local governments, from our local school district and trying to limit their ability to keep our community safe. we have held the line as democrats for now -- we began may 30th. here we are still, every day is a trial for republicans to have quorum. in fact, the most dramatic tv on right now is watching to see whether there's a quorum that's going to be on the floor of the texas house. that just happened. it took them an hour and a half to finally get their quorum because democrats, many democrats are saying, no, prove yourself up, show you're going to show up because we're not going to help you pass your agenda. >> can i ask you this real quick? is it true that texas republicans were calling in republican -- fellow republican members and saying they were there and not verifying that they were there and basically creating a quorum that was really more theoretical than real? >> they had a fake quorum on

thursday. the speaker called it, declared quorum, which we all hollered foul about. so today we had a member show up on the house floor, a democratic member who called for verification to ensure there wasn't cheating. this is why it took them an hour and a half to establish quorum, and every day we're going to make them work for this. we are the minority in texas. we can only do so much, but this week can do and we're committed to do it. >> you know, beto o'rourke, we talked to the mayor of houston last week. i mean he was -- we brought him on to comment on the fact that the lieutenant governor of your state basically said he doesn't represent the black people, he only represents republicans and that everybody else, that's democrats' problem. meanwhile, he's fixated on stealing the votes of black people and brown people. it is pretty blatant at this point. your thoughts? >> you're absolutely right. in fact, our lieutenant governor blamed the spike in covid cases in texas on black texans

specifically as he tries to make it harder for black texans and america can american texans, young texans, texans with disabilities to vote in upcoming elections. this is where we need some federal help. we need the united states congress, specifically the senate, to pass the for the people act. actually, thanks to representative hinojosa and her colleagues, they were able to force that issue. i think they got us progress to the point that leader schumer has vowed to bring it to the floor on the week of september 13th and force another vote on it, which i hope forces a decision on whether the filibuster is amended so we can actually get this thing passed. i think tomorrow the house of representatives will vote on the john lewis voting rights advancement act, hr-4, which should pass and then make its way to the senate as well. let's get both of those passed in the senate, signed into law so we have a real democracy and free and fair elections in texas. that allows us to address all of the issues that we brought up so far because we can then trust the wisdom of the millions of

voters in texas who are now functionally locked out of their own democracy in future elections. >> what would you say to a kyrsten sinema who spent a lot of time with one of your senators, senator cornyn, on the border where that's an issue that he thinks is the most important thing, and yet has said she ain't changing the filibuster no matter what? how do you convince beltway democrats, d.c. democrats that this is important enough for them to change the procedures on? >> i think that's up to all of us, and i really think that our public pressure should be focused on president biden. my takeaway from the '65 voting rights act is when president johnson said he didn't have the power to compel recalcitrant senators and congressmen from the south, the people of this country put the pressure on him to help him find that power to get it done. that's what we all have to do

with president biden. again, representative hinojosa and her colleagues did that. they forced this issue on to the public agenda, and they forced the president to respond to that. we need to keep that pressure up until this thing gets passed, because if we don't it is unfortunately going to get much worse in texas. this god awful agenda you just described in the special session, you will see something like that in the next special session and the next regular session. we will lose the ability to freely decide who represents us in these important positions of public trust. so, mr. president, please get the for the people act and john lewis voting rights advancement act passed as quickly as you can. >> i will give you the last word on this, representative hinojosa. people forget the 1963 march was not a march to support john f. kennedy. it was a march on john f. kennedy demanding he pass the original civil rights act. he had to be pushed to do that and that anniversary is coming up this weekend on the 28th to force there to be a civil rights act. last word to you. how do you convince people like

manchin, like sinema, like the other eight who won't admit it but they're also on their side on the filibuster, that this is job one for them to pass these bills? >> well, republicans seem to understand very well that this is their number one job. that's why they keep bringing us back to get this job done. so i'm not understanding why we don't understand this is a foundational right, just like in 1965. beto is right. we need washington to help us in these states where they're silencing our people and really robbing us of our democracy. >> yeah. good luck to y'all d.c. democrats getting reelected if the laws say that the republicans can just change the votes around after you win and say that you lost. i don't know how you think you're going to organize around that. texas state representative gina hinojosa, beto o'rourke, thank you for staying in the fight. still ahead, the cyber ninjas, returning their results of the vote audit. of course, nobody in their right

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♪♪ you know the saying it would be funny if it weren't so sad? yeah, that comes to mind as the arizona gop's political stunt to appease their orange-hughed idol is coming to an end. by that i mean the sham audit where the firm called the cyber ninjas was given free rein to tam but with ballots and voting machines looking to prove the former president's big lie. well, state republicans received part of that report today. more on that in a moment. while i'm sure the maga-hungry crowd is salivating over what could be inside, let me remind you of a few things. there's nothing legitimate about the report at all, full stop. the ninjas have no experience auditing elections and it

showed. their high-tech auditing skills included using black lights to prove ballots were flown in from asia. they even proposed challenging the pop of tickets. you can't make it up. none should be too surprising given the head of the koeg doug logan is a member of the tinfoil hat brigade. the reason only a portion was received is because logan and members of his crack audit team tested positive for covid-19. joaning me is arizona secretary of state katie hobbs, running for governor of arizona. sometimes when i have you on i almost want to apologize to you for talking to you about this because it sounds so stupid but it is actually really dangerous. you got a report, you managed to eke out 122 pages on a report on this fraud-it. what does it say?

>> it summarizes the observations and information we have been putting out all along throughout the process, highlighting why it is not a real audit. highlighting whatever they come up with in their report is not going to be credible, and, you know, it highlights the lack of security, the lack of transparency, the continued missed deadlines, the lack of procedures, and, really all of those things undermine this as a real audit. >> we know there's been a lot of -- i mean they're called the cyber ninjas. it sounds so stupid to say, but no wonder they're not open and transparent about what they're doing. but there's a reuters report that talks about the fact they -- you know, the house oversight committee is trying to get information on what they're doing. they refused to produce the document requested by the congressional committee including communications with trump and allies. they're actually threatening legal actions against them. do you think it is going to wind up in a lawsuit against the

state of arizona and what do you think might be found? >> i don't know what the house oversight committee is going to end up doing, but what i can say is that their concerns around transparency and everything else are absolutely valid. the public has a right to know how this whole thing came about, how they were chosen as the contractor, and all of the things that they've done that weren't transparent with maricopa county's ballots and voting equipment. >> i mean the guy who runs this, and this is on who funded them because it is the other issue, is where did they get the money to do this. this is reporting from the associated press, a quote from that report. logan ended months of silence about who was paying him when he said a whopping $5.7 million had been contributed by political groups run by prominent trump supporters, including michael flynn, sidney powell of the cracken familiar, patrick byrne and correspondents from, of course, one america news network which had the exclusives to view it. the figure dwarves the $150,000 to be paid by the senate.

do you have any idea how much of that money mr. logan gets to keep for himself, if any? >> no, and that's also an issue of concern that the public has a right to know. this was a public exercise conducted at the behest of the arizona state senate which reports to the voters and taxpayers of arizona, and to this date there hasn't been any transparency about the finances and basically who is being enriched by this exercise because that's what it seems to be. again, the public has a right to know these things, that these -- our elections are public institutions, and really these kind of private companies on a partisan fishing expedition don't really have any business being there. >> we know now it is a trend the republicans want to repeat, they want to repeat the foolishness all over the country. for those who haven't paid day-to-day attention to this, how many times was the election in 2020 actually officially

audited? >> there were the post-election hand count audit that's required by statute and the post-election logic and accuracy tests that are required by procedure done in every single county, and then over and above that maricopa county conducted an additional logic test and two forensic audits of the equipment done by certified firms to do that. there was no fraud found. arizona voters can be confidence the election was free of fraud, accurate and fair. in addition to those audits, there were nine lawsuits and there was no evidence of any fraud for any of those lawsuits. there was no basis for them. they were all thrown out of court. >> let me give you what this really seems to be. this is geo tv for republicans, right? because their audiences demand to hear the line about the audit everywhere they go. this is mo brooks, one of the insurrectionist members of congress. here he is this saturday at a trump rally. >> let's do it!

the arizona recount is coming! the arizona audit is on the way! >> the implication of that is that somehow donald trump is going to be named president after this miracle audit fraud-it happens. just humor me. what are the chances that the arizona result is going to be overturned such that donald trump can be named the winner of the arizona election? >> there is absolutely zero chance that that is going to happen regardless of whatever report the cyber ninjas give us. but the fact that republican leaders know that a lot of people believe that this actually will happen, they are fuelling dangerous behavior. i'm very concerned about what happens when this report comes out. there's no way that anything is going to be overturned, and what

is the consequence then? >> that is the issue. it is a national security concern at this point, as goofy as it sounds. cyber ninjas, it is actually now a national security problem. it is terrifying. thank you for standing in the breach, katie hobbs. appreciate you being here this evening. laurel canyon. tonight's absolute worse is still ahead. as a republican congressman is under investigation for sex trafficking discovers a new level of irony. first, the disturbing rise in threats and violence directed against health care professionals and teachers by anti-mask and anti-vax fanatics. stay with us. introducing fidelity income planning. we look at what you've saved, what you'll need, and help you build a flexible plan for cash flow that lasts,

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it has never been about your health! it has never been about your health. it is about control and compliance. let me tell you something, go home tonight and take one of these spoons and put it on your vaccination spot. guess what. it is going to stick to you. guess what else? you take a black light

flashlight and shine it on your veins and you're now going to blow in the black light because, guess what? you are no longer human. you are 2.0s, and we are afraid of you! >> coronavirus misinformation sometimes borders on the absurd, the ridiculous, just like what you just saw from palm beach county, florida. but it is also down right dangerous. not just because it is literally killing people who won't get vaccinated, but because it has led to a toxic, violent atmosphere. as a recent ap article pointed out, mask and vaccine conflicts have descended into violence and harassment. on the very first day of school in northern california, a parent punched a teacher in the face over a mask dispute. in texas, a parent ripped a mask off a teacher during a meet-the-teacher event. and at a missouri walmart a man threatened pharmacists with execution if they continued to administer covid-19 vaccines.

the situation is particularly vile in normally peaceful hawaii where protests outside the home of lieutenant governor josh green, where he has two young children under 4, have been going on for weeks, ever since hawaii mandated vaccines for state and county workers. some of them yell into bull horns and shine strobe lights into apartment units and flyers with his photo with the words, quote, "jew and fraud" have been plastered around the neighborhood because anti-semitism is alive and well even in the middle of the pacific ocean and a pandemic. when he is not leading the state's coronavirus response lieutenant governor green is working as an emergency doctor on the big island, mostly handling -- you guessed it -- coronavirus cases. with me now is hawaii lieutenant governor josh green. he is also an er doctor. lieutenant governor green, first of all, i want to apologize on behalf of humanity for what is happening to you and the

anti-semitic attacks and the attacks our family and i hope your kids are safe. i want to start by saying that. >> thank you, joy. you don't need to apologize. it is other people, certainly not you doing it. a quick clarification, my next-door neighbor has the little ones. mine are 10 and 14 but they're still kids and really in the line of fire on this. >> my kids are in their 20s and so to me their kids. a 10 and 14 year old, that's a little kid to me. i totally hear you. thank you for the clarification. you are an er doctor, so you presumably know covid more than the people outside screaming at you. 54,608 cases, a smaller number of deaths, 564 deaths. let's put up this math, my friends in the producing room. covid cases have spiked. look at the number at the end, it is in august of this year, looks like it spiked higher than ever. do you have a handle on what has caused the spike? is it just the delta variant coming to town? >> yeah, it is the delta variant and it is definitely a pandemic amongst those who are

unvaccinated, just like everywhere else. so we have about the third or fourth highest vaccination rate in the country, which has been extraordinary. >> yeah. >> however, those who are unvaccinated are refusing to wear masks and the delta variant just roared right through that community. and then the protests are targeting individuals and scaring people away from getting vaccinated. that's really the saddest thing. >> it is. it is infuriating to me both that people are willing of -- first of all, it is silly people are willing to risk their own lives. but to the extent the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers demand everyone risk their lives, that everyone take off their mask, that everyone do what they say is mind boggling to me. when you are treating covid patients on the big island where you are an er doctor, is anyone demanding you take off your mask when you treat them? >> no, not there. everyone in the hospital that i'm caring for is now -- well, they're unvaccinated when they have covid in the hospital, and they're usually very tearful because they realize they could have prevented it.

i have not had a single patient yet who has been vaccinated, so all of my covid patients have been unvaccinated. >> interesting. >> they all are beside themselves because they know now they could die because they could have done the one simple thing, which was to get vaccinated. so usually it is just a lot of remorse and our heart blakes for breaks for them. it is a big problem. there's a secondary problem, which is that because those who have not gotten vaccinated have filled up the hospitals across our state, i was taking care of a gentleman the other day not covid positive, vaccinated and had a huge heart attack. i was unable to find a bed to transfer for him to get the cardiology care he needed because our icu beds were filled. the health of other people who have gotten vaccinated, who have done the right thing is now compromised. i think it is happening all over the place also. >> we have seen reports of that elsewhere, right. people with other illnesses, heart attacks, strokes, et cetera, can't get a bed because

of the covid patients. we have heard calls to the poison control because people are trying to make their own ivermectin by going to the feed hospital and ingesting that, to the point the fda had to pint out a sign, you are not a cow. come on, wake up, you are not a kourks don't take the drugs. have you had any of those patients come in, who have taken these methods of self-healing in their mind? >> i haven't had anyone with a toxic overdose of ivermectin, which is a medicine for worms, not for -- not for covid. but i have had even educated people who watched too much of the wrong news and who watch feeds on social media yell at me for not prescribing ivermectin or other treatments that don't work. so it is really sad because, once again, people who should be getting the right information, who should be capable of doing the right things and making the right decisions to not catch covid are now completely confused because of the rhetoric that's become political. look, i don't mind if people

express different opinions. of course we should. even the protests, i completely support freedom of speech, the right to protest nonviolently. but when you start going down that road, it terrorizes a lot of other people and it gives people just wrong ideas. >> yeah. >> at the end, it is going to be science, not some some kind of science fiction, that stops this pandemic. >> if those people who are outside your apartment scaring your kids and your neighbor's kids, if they get covid, they're going to expect you to cure them. and my question to you on that same line, have you ever had a patient say to you, i don't know what's in remdesivir, in monoclonal antibodies, do not give me that when i have covid? >> no, it's just the opposite actually. once people are in the hospital, they, of course, like any other patient, are desperate, and they want the right care from a physician. it's this rhetoric that's political beforehand, and it's toxic. i mean, you know, again, you can protest. you can be expressive about your

ideas, but to do it at a person's residence is beyond the pale. and then also, to scare others and then put them in a bad situation is beyond the pale. but at the end of the day, everyone, i can tell you this as an emergency room doctor, everyone is vulnerable once they actually are sick. and it breaks my heart because i know i'll be treating those very individuals that were dragged into a rally inappropriately or other people who were scared. the protesters have been trying to get people to not get vaccinated, and one region in hawaii, the western side of oahu, has people only vaccinated at about a 35% rate. that rate is so low that the surge in the winigh area has meant that one of our hospitals was overwhelmed and they had to go into an emergency state and we had nowhere to put patients catching covid. the people who had been convinced not to get vaccinated now overwhelmed the hospital and it rippled through the whole state. i really think we have to get

real. americans should be coming together rather than being divisive, because this pandemic won't end until we get enough vaccinated. >> if you don't want to get vaccinated, fine, but you don't have a right to demand other people not get vaccinated and other people not wear masks and protect themselves. you don't have control over other people. i don't know what these people are thinking. they want to make everyone do what they say and they have no right to do that. i know -- you said i didn't have to do it, but i'm still going to apologize. so sorry for what you're going through. thank you for all you have done to save people's lives in hawaii. >> okay, lordy, jesus. thank you very much. don't go anywhere. this ain't over yet. we still have tonight's absolute worst, and it's a doozy. as a republican politician whose picture should appear next to the urban dictionary entry on failing upward accuses a highly accomplished u.s. army general of being stupid. stick around.

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the modern republican party is filled with, as john boehner put it, people who spend more time tearing things apart than actually building anything. the poster children for those feckless politicians are representatives margie q. greene and matt gaetz. thaz took their national bonnie and clyde liars tour to iowa, where gaetz said the nation's black defense secretary, lloyd austin, quote, might be the stupidest person to have ever served in a presidential cabinet in america's history. just for the record, rick perry was secretary of energy in the trump administration. need i say more? i will say more. because the guy leading that cabinet isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. i mean, he did suggest injecting disinvectant into your veins to cure covid and asked if we could

fire nukes into hurricanes, but again, i digress. defense secretary austin is a highly decorated general. he graduated from west point. he earned a master of arts from aurbern university, a master of business, and served as the chief of substantial in the united states central command among other things. for comparison, marjorie's legislative accomplishments for nil because she spends most of her time spewing venom and she's also busy endorsing the execution of fellow americans who happen to be democrats. and the space laser thing. and then, there is nubby fingered florida congressman gaetz, whose list of accomplishments include bringing nazi apologists to the state of the union, being the subject of a justice department investigation into whether or not he had sexual relations with a 17-year-old girl, and engaged in sex trafficking, with his besty, who pleaded guilty with promises to tell on matty. he denies any wrongdoing, but

gaetz has managed to make beavis and but head great again because he is one and looks like the other. you guess which. but don't take my word for it. in 2019, mother jones did a deep dive into baby gaetz. this is what one democrat who ran against him in 2016 said. quote, matt would be an assistant manager at walmart if it weren't for his father. he's a third generation politician. his daddy was a prominent florida politician who cashed in on his connections and helped his son do the same before running for office, matt was a middling lawyer in a local ft. walton beach law firm. when gaetz made the jump to politics, he got a cash injection by selling property to his daddy. i guess for some, you're never too old to get an allowance from your parents. it doesn't stop there. for a guy who represents a military heavy district, gaetz seems to really enjoy disrespecting veterans. not only does he call a four-star general stupid, but he seems to think veterans are rubes. you see, his dad once claimed that baby gaetz loves to go visit wounded warriors at walter

reed every week. but mother jones dug deeper and found he had done so only twice since taking office. tonight, baby gaetz, mediocre politician, and even lower rent version of your tacky orange idol who didn't even find you worth pardoning, you're pathetic, and you're also the absolute worst. and that's tonight's "reidout." "all in" starts now. >> tonight, on "all in" -- >> the fda has given its full and final approval. the moment you have been waiting for is here. >> a big announcement from the current president, as the last one cowers before an anti-vax crowd. >> i did it. it's good. take the vaccine. but you got -- no, that's okay. that's all right. you got your freedoms. >> tonight, why the pandemic is somehow worse than ever in states like florida. how a failure of leadership helped make it so. and why fda approval of pfizer could change the game with vaccine requirements. >> then,