one prosecutor saying this individual should be concerned about the plea that this could be if it led to a plea a bad thing for giuliani. that's a final update for us. "the reid out" is up next. >> remember when people used to say, he was the greatest mayor ever. i never said that. i was never a fan. >> i don't have a lot of time but this is a quick one. that is over. >> yeah, pretty much. with like dripping hair die and all. thank you very much, ari. have a good evening. cheers. everyone, good evening. we begin "the reid out" tonight with the dizzying spread of the delta variant. in georgia governor brian kemp has deployed the national guard to help with hospitals. louisiana reported 139 deaths, the most in a single day, since the start of the pandemic. in florida, more than 17,000 people are currently hospitalized with covid.

with more than 3,000, 3,000 icu patients. emergency services around tampa bay are being pushed to the brink. ems workers are waiting hours to transport patients to hours. in a disturbing flashback to the spring of 2020, broward health center is adding temporary mortuary facilities. despite all of this unnecessary death and agony, florida governor ron desantis who has emerged as a kind of dr. death continues to wage his war not against the virus but against the people who are fighting to stem the tide of this delta tsunami. and people are getting frankly tired of it. a new quinnipiac poll of floridians say 59% of the adults say the delta variant is out of control. local corporations are losing patients with a seemingly pro covid governor. disney, a huge money maker in the state, has struck an

agreement with their 38,000 strong union to mandate vaccines among its workers. disney cruises and carnival cruises are requiring a vaccine in order to board their ships. today the broward county school board refused to back down on their mask mandate. they could be fined up to $31,000 for daring to protect the lives of the kids in their district. just take that in for a second. they're being punished for protecting children. just to give you a sense of how dumb and dangerous these antimask mandates are, the associated press found that more than 80 school districts or charter networks in more than a dozen states have closed or delayed in person classes in at least one of their schools. clearly desantis isn't the only governor rolling out the red carpet for this ravenous virus. in july the south carolina governor prohibited schools fro.

that's not a typo, 278%. one superintendent and his school board have had enough. they're asking the state supreme court for a temporary injunction against the mask mandate prohibition and earlier this afternoon the aclu gave him some backup by announcing that they had filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of disability rights groups and parents who believe the state's mask restriction endangers the lives of their children. meanwhile, in texas the covid infected, thrice injected governor is asking the court to lift an injunction that keeps him from punishing school districts that are enforcing mask mandates there. roughly 60 districts including dallas are defying governor abbott by requiring masks in school. with me now, roslyn osgood, school board chair from broward county schools and michael

hinosa. dr. austin, i'm going to start with you. former broward county resident, i was so proud to hear you this morning on ""morning joe"" talking about the fact you didn't care if they docked your pay, your top priority was protecting kids. talk about what broward county is doing to stand up to this governor. >> well, we made a decision and we're sticking to our decision as we continue to see covid positivity rates increase in our county. we continue to listen at members of our community, which include our staff, our students, our parents. we continue to have real live experiences where we are seeing people die, whether it's teachers in our schools, whether members in our churches are being impacted with covid and even members in our own family. so the covid pandemic is very real to us. it is causing a major hardship on this county already with the 18 and 19 months that we've been

dealing with it. there's been a lot of grief and a lot of loss. so there is no way that we could in good conscience not use every tool we have in our toolbox to provide a safe work environment for our staff and a safe learning environment for our students. there's just no way possible. this really, you know, when you think about it, about defying the governor, it's more about standing up for what's morally right and protecting the people you love. >> very quickly, has the governor, governor desantis, visited broward county schools to see how students and teachers are faring? >> not to my knowledge. >> i thought i knew the answer to that but i thought i would ask. mr. inohosa, tell us what you are doing in a state where the governor would rather fight you rather than fight the virus. >> it's been surreal. my last 30 hours. 24 hours ago i was testifying in

a court where we sued the governor, along with many other districts, because they would not allow us to have the masks. in fact, i was shocked when the attorney representing the state barely asked me any questions. it was shocking they didn't want to grill me about my decision. they have not even communicated with me at all. then today i had to drive down to austin to testify for a virtual bill because we had a virtual bill that we could have used to help keep families safe. it died at the last minute here in the last session. here in a special session they put it up. once again, i drove down there, testified for three minutes, not one question. that passed out of committee with one dissenting vote because now they know how the situation has really gotten out of control. i just looked at my dashboard. two weeks -- at the beginning of the week we only had -- we had less than double digits of students infected. we now have 353 students that have been infected.

so this thing continues to spiral out of control and yet nobody is confronting me. nobody is communicating with me but -- and they know how i feel about this matter, which is very urgent at this time. >> i'll ask you the same question. has your governor or lieutenant governor visited the school district or visited any schools in your district to see how the students, parents and teachers are faring? >> no, absolutely not. we've had no visitors from the governor nor lieutenant governor. >> let me go back to you, dr. osgood, for a moment. florida ranked 21st in terms of the vaccine rate. texas, by the way, ranks 34th. you can look up there. you can see vermont is the most vaccinated state in the country with 67% of its population vaccinated, then you go down to connecticut, all these new england states. florida only has a 52% vaccination rate. texas is worse off, 46%. below them are more red states, wyoming, mississippi, alabama. i'll start with you, dr. osgood.

we understand that the purpose of what your governor is doing, going after the cruise industry even as disney cruises are saying you have to have vaccines, he tried to stop other cruise companies from having vaccine mandates, going after teachers. he wants to be president. he thinks this is good politics for him. have you gotten a sense in broward county that his stance for the, quote, freedom of parents to send their children potentially infected with in some way playing well among the people of broward county? are you on the wrong side of most of the people who live in broward or is the governor? >> i don't think so. the people in broward county love our children, we love our educators. our district employs 30,000 employees and about 260,000 students and we don't like our children and our education system being used as a pawn. as i was listening to michael,

it's interesting because normally when you get an injunction, joy, there is a due process that takes place. we have not been given any type of due process hearing or matter to deal with this. we just continue to be bullied and threatened, one thing after another for doing what we feel is right for our students and the people in our community. i'm not sure how all of this is playing out. i don't know what the governor or anyone is thinking but, you know, it's kind of real simple. if you don't wear a mask, you have the potential to lose your life, to die or be seriously impacted of covid. there has not been one case that anybody that wore a mask to protect themselves from covid died from wearing a mask. so we have to get vaccinated. we're encouraging people to get vaccinated. we know a large number of people are not. we know there's not a vaccine option for students that are 12

and under so we have to use masks to protect them. this is something that we can't negotiate. we can't compromise. we believe strongly in our school district that the governor is over reaching his authority as the governor. we believe strongly that the florida constitution allows a local citizenry to elect local school board members to govern and make policies for school districts. >> that is what republicans used to believe, actually, in local control. just a little bit for our audience to know just what the public in general believes. in terms of the support for mask mandates, new quinnipiac poll shows 6 in 10 floridians support requiring masks in schools. 61% say the recent rise in covid cases was preventible, because they're smart and they know it. 51% of voters say desantis cares more about running for president in 2024 versus 46% say he cares more about florida.

there's -- voters differ greatly on freedom versus health. 21% of republicans in florida agree with the statement my freedom ends only when it is endangering your health. 96% of florida residents strongly disapprove of desantis's job versus 36% of florida republicans. mr. inohosa, whether it's in florida or texas, these governors are counting on the idea that their voters think that their freedom to be maskless and to make their kids show up maskless matters more than the freedom of other students and teachers to not get covid. that's what they believe. what would you say back to them? >> well, joy, this is all going to play out real quick because even the san antonio superintendent wanted to have a vaccine in the district and he got sued by the attorney general to stop him so he had to stop that. there's also a bill that was introduced yesterday to prevent us from having masks. let's see if it survives the

special session. now i think that even republican voters in our state are saying, wait a minute. we're playing with fire here. and so i think the tide is starting to turn and we'll know in two weeks because that special session will have to adjourn in two weeks and we'll see what happens here if the tide is really turning with our voters on both sides of the aisle. >> i will note that that special session, we talked about it yesterday, did not include any measures that would protect children in the state of texas from dying of covid. covid was not on the agenda. all that was on the agenda was a lot of republicans with talking point of materials with stopping people of color for voting. >> dr. roslyn osgood, dr. michael inohosa, thank you for standing up to your governors and for the children. on "the reid out", which members of congress should be worried. after the chairman of the select committee confirmed he's going after phone, email, text records of potential insurrection

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republican lawmakers who may have been involved in the events of january 6th are officially in the cross hairs of the committee investigating the capital insurrection. according to the chair benny thompson, they will request electronic records. they will be sending letters to

telecommunications companies and social media companies requesting they preserve documents. that's likely to come as unwelcome news to kevin mccarthy and jim jordan both who have been notably evasive about their phone calls with president trump on the day of the siege. for jim jordan they were so sensitive he waited six months to admit they happened at all. >> on january 6th did you speak with him before, during, or after the capitol was attacked? >> i'd have to go -- i -- i -- i spoke with him that day after. i think after. i don't know if i spoke with him in the morning or not. i just don't know. i'd have to go back and -- i78, i don't -- i don't -- i don't know that -- when those conversations happened. >> okay. by him, you mean president him? okay, let me think, did i speak to the president? he was the president, right? him? other republicans might also have reason to fear having their phone records scrutinized like

paul gosart, mo brooks, andy biggs who helped plan the stop the steal rally before the attack according to one of the organizers. mo brooks later said he was prepared in advance for the violence of that day admitting he wore body armor during his speech at the ellipse prior to the siege for some reason. joining me now, congressman pete aguilar, a member of the select committee investigating january 6th. it comes as a relief to a lot of people who watch this show and this network who have been following the coverage on various programs because there always has been this sense that there were members of congress who all but bragged that they were on the side of the insurrectionists so is it your understanding that these requests to preserve records are happening because there is some sense that, in fact, members of congress were involved in some way in planning what happened? >> well, i'll let chairman

thompson speak for the select committee and any letters, if there are letters that are going out, i will let he and the press operation for the select committee handle that, but what i will say is our man tate is very clear. we want to get to the truth of what happened on january 6th. that means the planning and operation, that means things that led up to january 6th as well as the response on january 6th, including the rally that you mentioned. so we're going to continue to do our work. we have a work plan that we're following and we're going to be guided by the basic principle that we need to follow every fact and unravel every piece of information we can to seek to get to the truth. >> let me connect this another way because we know that people like jim jordan spoke to the president that day. we know that the house minority leader spoke to the president that day. he's talked about it in interviews. this is in for public information. paul gosar, mo brooks and andy biggs.

ally alexander said they helped him organize the, quote, stop the steal rally. these are facts that are known. my question would be since there's public information that these people had some association with what happened, is it the general belief of those who are charged to investigate this, that in fact all you need to do is find the proof of it? that, in fact, there were members of congress -- i think that's what the american people want to know. in your view, were members of congress conspiring with the people who attacked our capitol? >> over 500 individuals have been charged so far by the department of justice. we're going to continue to do everything we can to find out who was responsible for this, whether there was coordination and to chase every lead that we possibly can. we know that the department of justice has a role to play and we have a role to play and so we want to make sure we analyze and review everything that happens that day, and clearly communication with the president

is a portion of that. and so we want to make sure that we talk about the response that day, whether it was the national guard responding, whether there was any intentional delay. all of those things we have seen press reports on, but we are going to be guided by the truth and make sure that we can speak with the information and to ensure that we follow the truth and get to the facts. >> should the people who are paying attention to this expect at some point those who are in possession of donald trump's phone records and social media records are also going to be asked to preserve their records, donald trump's? >> i think representative liz cheney said it well in our open hearing when she said that we should account for the president every minute of that day and so that includes communication, that includes what he was watching on television. all of those facts should be out in the public at some point. and so we're going to continue

to do everything we can to shine a light on what happened that day, the response, the preparation, who funded it and all of the events that led up to the planning, which is exactly what you talked about on january 6th. >> let's also talk about some of the other things. there have been a lot of conspiracy theories, low kea takes on the officer who shot ashley babbitt who was the militarily trained person who was trying to go through the speaker's lobby door. shot by an officer. not only did the capitol police clear this officer, cnbc reports an internal investigation found no wrongdoing and the actions of the officer in this case potentially saved staff from serious injury and possible death. that was something we could see from our eyes when we watched this happen. we saw the video of it. will this committee ensure that that officer's identity and name are protected and that it doesn't wind up in any reports? because it does seem that some on the right are trying to get that person outed and that would

put them in danger. physical danger. >> this is someone who put their life on the line to protect me. i was on the house floor that day being evacuated just about the same time. so it's unfortunate that people want to play politics with that event, which is incredibly tragic. no one should have lost their life. let's also remember that those officers, you know, just yards away from that incident were trying to protect their own lives from these insurrectionists who were throwing everything that they could get their hands on, beating individuals with flags and anything that wasn't bolted down. and so that individual was protecting the capitol chamber, was protecting members of congress and we need to ensure that we protect that individual's safety as a result of their official actions that day. >> let's talk about what people believe about january 6th. among republicans, 82% of republicans who were polled by

an nbc poll said that they believe that january 6th is being exaggerated to discredit trump and his allies. maybe it's not showing on fox but yet people who still believe the big lie, as did the people who attacked our capitol, still pose a national security threat as we know we've heard from the fbi. npr has reported the metro police department is going to have an increased presence around d.c. because on september 18th the people who support the former president are going to hold something called a justice for january 6th rally. former trump campaign official matt brainerd is spearheading this, we're going back to the capitol right where it started and it's going to be huge. what should we expect the security posture to look like on september 18th? >> we'll work with our law enforcement professionals to make sure that the capitol is protected and that business can

be conducted if it's a legislative day. i don't believe that that's a day we're scheduled to be in legislative session, but we need to ensure the safety and security of the people who work in this building each and every day. so that will be our focus. i would say that it's incredibly sad that individuals on the right don't want to acknowledge that this was an assault on our democracy and so that becomes the chief -- joy, that becomes the number one priority that we can do, isn't just following the facts and uncovering the truth, it's to ensure this never happens again. this was a violent assault on our democracy. the hallmark of our democracy is a peaceful transition of power. that's exactly what these individuals wanted to prevent. as we see the public charging documents the department of justice has put on their websites, we see that. we need to make sure that we're doing everything we can to shine a light on it to make sure that people understand this is how

precious democracy is and this is how close we came to those individuals trying to uproot it. >> right. yeah. some of them seem to want to have a second round. congressman pete aguilar, thank you very much. appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, more than 22,000 evacuations in the last 24 hours as the u.s. races to get u.s. citizens and afghan allies out ahead of afghanistan which president biden says he will be sticking to no matter what. we'll bring you the latest next. stay with us. this is the greatest idea you'll ever hear. okay, it's an app that compares hundreds of travel sites for hotels and cars and vacation rentals like kayak does for flights. so it's kayak. yeah, like kayak. why don't you just call it kayak. i'm calling it... canoe.

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we are currently on a pace to finish by august 31st. the sooner we can finish, the better. each day of operations brings added risks to our troops. in addition, i've asked the pentagon and the state

department for contingency plans to adjust the timetable should that become necessary. >> late this afternoon president biden announced he will not be extending the u.s. military presence in afghanistan beyond the august 31st deadline. that leaves one week to complete the evacuation of u.s. citizens and allies. the u.s. military has ramped up its efforts with 71,000 people evacuated in the last 10 days. almost 22,000 were flown out of afghanistan just yesterday including more than 4,000 americans and their family members. it also includes three babies who were delivered aboard those flights. given that we were told that the target number of people to be evacuated was about 80,000, that sure sounds like they are on target. joining me is jane ferguson, special news correspondent. appreciate you being here. let's talk about this. the number we were given at the outset, there were about 80,000 people that needed to come out.

they're on track, it seems to make it, by the one week deadline. so where is the pressure coming from to keep troops in longer? is this more -- i don't know, where is the pressure to keep troops there beyond august 31st? >> well, what we know, joy, is there are still americans in afghanistan that the biden administration haven't said how many are still to come out. don't forget, they're not necessarily in kabul. they could be anywhere across the country. the taliban takeover of the capitol was so rapid very few people predicted it, but beyond that you have to remember that a lot of those numbers were put together before the biden administration announced an unconditional withdrawal from afghanistan. if you're looking at the special immigrant visa applicants, interpreters and their families that worked alongside the u.s. military, there will be many who hadn't applied yet or who were stuck in the system and who were not able to get through. it is famously difficult to get a special immigrant visa. it can take years and years and

many attempts, actually, of rejections and so the numbers that were initially put forward didn't necessarily reflect the number of people who would wish to apply for the visas that they were entitled to. and also we've also heard from the president since then that they were expanding eligibility for the refugee program to include people who had worked with the united states like with u.s.a. id or with the u.s. media so there were more people who were entitled to at least attempt to get to the united states. how they were going to do that, in what kind of time frame is what is being so chaotic. people are being told they have one week to make it and if you don't have the visa in your hand, you're very unlikely to get in the gate. that doesn't mean you're not going to go and try and that's why we've seen chaotic scenes here. >> the united states did not do this invasion and occupation of afghanistan alone. this is an entire nato occupation so it's presumed it

is all on the united states to do all of the evacuations. are any of our nato allies attempting to get people out or is this an all u.s. military all by itself operation? >> the operations here very much so represent the way this war was fought. there are militaries from all over the world here. it's surreal when you're walking on the street outside the airport here. you have british soldiers who are heavily involved in pulling people out of the crowds, in sorting through, getting them over to the airbase. i've seen canadian troops, polish troops, italian troops. if someone fought in afghanistan, there is a presence here and they are trying to get people out. it's actually america's allies here. the other militaries that have largely been pushing president biden to try to extend that deadline to at least extend it a little bit so they can get their people out and their own nationals as well as their own interpreters and allies on the battlefield. it's very much so a joint project.

those who are here from allied forces rely on the u.s. military. this would not be possible without the u.s. air force and the ability to basically air lift this amount of people. no one else has that kind of capability. so it's ultimately up to the white house as to how long everyone stays here. the other nations will have to leave before the united states because they are so dependent on the u.s. air force. >> jane ferguson, thank you very much. appreciate it. with me now, malcolm nance. i don't know if you were able to hear what jane said because it sounds to me as if the burden sharing isn't exactly equal. there are all of these nato countries that are essentially saying it's all up to you, the united states. it sounds to me like the military are doing quite a thorough job. they've gotten a lot of people out. you wouldn't know it from listening to the coverage but they've gotten a lot of people out. what do you make of the fact this isn't a shared responsibility so much as it's being made only america's responsibility? >> well, it's american

responsibility because we maintain the air bridge, we maintain the links to dohar and we control the airport with our combat controllers. that's the air force teams that actually run the airport properly. so we have more lift capacity than just about everyone. when we brought that air bridge to descend down into the karzai airport, it became our responsibility. and it's better that it's under our control because our nato allies know how to integrate with us, chartered jets can fly in there. we have aircraft from everywhere in the world flying in there, particularly, you know, from the united arab emirates, turkey, saudi arabia. it's not just u.s. forces and nato forces are evacuating their own citizens, but we maintain the perimeter and we run this entire effort. let me say one other thing here, joy. this is going to be, if it stays on track and isis khorasan could

screw this up at any minute, the second largest non-combatant evacuation in american history. this is not dunkirk. this is a semipermissive noncombatant operation. we are taking out just about anybody who is there who can prove they are u.s. aligned or u.s. citizens. you know, we have to maintain something. there are 38 million afghans. we cannot take every one of them and there's going to have to be a tiered system to get them out. >> let's get into this a little bit more. right. you had boris johnson, you know, talking about the number one condition we're setting for the g7 as they have a guarantee safe passage. so everyone agrees people need to come out. there was this great video, this clip of these young girls, these afghan girls who were on like a computer, a tech team, right? they were all together. they all got on a plane, got on

qatar and got out. it was heartwarming to see them go. it seems like the taliban are belatedly realizing their fourth century politics may not be working. they're saying, whoa, hold on, united states, they don't want us encouraging their doctors, lawyers, engineers, those that are educated that we need them. this is the taliban spokesperson saying we need those talents. really? because some of them are women. so i'm wondering what kind of leverage there might be available to nato countries, to the united states after the 31st. the world bank still has to deal with the taliban and whatever government is there financially. their money is not necessarily available to them right now. they're still wanting to talk because they don't want to have a complete brain drain of that country. so in your view, is the 31st the end of any conversation that international forces could have with the taliban to make sure that they -- the people who want

out can leave? >> well, certainly is not going to be a cutoff date where everything just ends. you know, the taliban put that hard line position up because that's how you negotiate over there. by sending our cia director who is, as i understand, 30 years a diplomat was the right person to go there. so by bringing the taliban to the table, letting them know that there are alternatives that -- and, you know, there's leverage that we have, an enormous quality of money that actually belongs to the government of afghanistan, whoever that is. >> right. >> so they have to decide one of two things very quickly. i think it's already forming up because the leadership of the taliban are my age, right? they are nearing late 50s, early 60 years old and have been fighting since they were children. are they going to lead a nation state or just a guerrilla base camp?

when the warlords took over in the 1980s and they thought them and beat them, they became a guerrilla base camp that had the islamic emirate of afghanistan flag and that was it. they had no recognition from anyone other than a couple of gulf states. this time they have to run a nation state and they want to be players in that region and they are going to have to make those concessions. if they think they're going to cut us off on the 31st and we're going to happily fly off and abandon american citizens or allies, they have another thing coming. we have capacity to get everyon the end of next week and i look forward to hearing those naysayers tell us this was the worst military disaster in history. >> i think the narrative will be, well, you only got 100,000 out. that's a failure. i don't know that there's anything that biden could do other than promise to leave troops in there for another 20

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topsy-turvy pandemic right now. we're in the up side right now, but this? this is pretty out there. people are now taking a drug formulated not to treat covid but, rather, head lice, pair a -- parasites. doctors are not goofy enough to get it. they're getting it from the local feed storm and ip guesting it in doses meant for animals. and winding up in the hospital to compete for treatment with covid patients. you really can't make it up. the fda issued real talk saying, you are not a horse. you are not a cow. seriously, y'all. stop it. got to tell people they're not horses. mississippi health officials are saying the same after receiving a number of calls through poison control by residents ingesting. this is the state with the

second lowest vaccination rate in the country. and where 13-year-old mckayla robinson became the second mississippi school kid to dye of covid when she passed last week causing her school to pass down but not moving her governor to change his mind about posing mask mandates. joining me is ben collin. i am so excited to talk to you today. i have heard and have argued with enough antivaxxers at this point to number one have my frustration level beyond 100 and to notice they all say the same things. they all use the same talking points as if they're all getting it from the same source. do you have any idea as our guy in the world that sort of understands the facebook universe, is there like a single source for all of this, these conspiracy theories about the vaccine? >> well, they're all in these smaller communities. some are on facebook.

this is not a bad thing on facebook. it's part of a drug cocktail that people with covid do get in other parts of the country -- other parts of the world, especially parts of the world that do not have access to the vaccine. they would love that but they have to treat it with therapeutics that are still experimental. they're not banning this but in these facebook pages like the biggest page is called ivormentin which has zero doctors. it's people telling people how to ingest it and how to take it. there's one -- people keep saying it's like a jelly or something. they don't know how to use it. mix it into your guacamole. >> people who -- i'm sorry. you've heard people say this, i can't take the vaccine, that's experimental. >> yes. >> are going on facebook and taking something that is in an experimental cocktail in other countries and saying, well, i'm willing to take that. is it a jelly? that's what they're doing? >> yeah.

i mean -- >> okay. >> -- they try to get the actual little pill. like an actual drug first. they realize they're not going to get it. they go to the feed store and get the one that says for sheep or whatever and they try to find ways to eat it that are a little bit more palatable than just be taking it out of the tube. it's grim stuff. that's where we are at. >> it's not just regular people. the mayor of lake ozark, in a facebook post, of course, plugged the anti-parasite drug used in animals. they warn it can be dangerous. he said, help me. i need to get my friend who has covid this ivermectin. this is where i want you to talk about where true things morph into fake things. "the wall street journal" had written an op-ed saying why are

they attacking a safe drug? that's on july 28. they had to run a correction saying this article has been edited to remove a reference of a study in egypt. it was a bad study. people are getting little pieces of something that they -- that is true and mixing it. can facebook not stop that? >> i don't know if facebook can stop that. that's a difficult thin. that study was everywhere. it was the primary thing that the people pointed to as the reason to treat people with this instead of the vaccine. that's the other thing. these spaces should be open. there should be a place to talk about the vaccines with people who are worried about taking them. very frequently, the people

running these spaces are committed to an ideology that's anti-vax. they have been well before covid, have mastered the idea of getting people nervous about vaccines. people who are new to the game -- we're all new to the game of trying to get people to get the vaccine, because it's safe and effective. we don't have that sort of rhetorical trick that they mastered on facebook and social media platforms. >> we don't have the following. you will have a quick answer after this. we're out of time. >> god given right of freedom. no human being is supposed to tell you you can't breathe freely. [ bleep ] your mask. you might feel differently. [ bleep ] your mask. >> this was anti-mask not vax.

how much are influencers like him having? they have more influence than dr. fauci at this point, right? >> yeah. it's a big deal that he is doing this. in part because people are desperate for information of any kind. talking point is, go see your doctor, talk to your doctor. people don't have doctors. they don't have primary care physicians. they go and they find the person they trust. for some people, i guess it's busta rhymes. i guess that's the case for some people. that's the worry. they don't have doctors. they find something on the internet. >> i'm a hip hop fan. i trust and believe he will not be giving me medical advice. it's a wild world out there. don't go anywhere. it can get worse. tonight's absolute worst is still ahead. a republican governor strips s assistance from those who need it. he is helping to prolong. that's next.

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can your internet do that? ron desantis has been derelict in doing anything to fight the pandemic from prioritizing popup clinics over vaccinations to declaring open war on educators. he made it harder for some floridians to survive financially. rejecting federal aid left and right. covid has raged across the sunshine state this summer. desantis touted a return to business as usual. he joined the republican governor prematurely cutting off federal enhanced unemployment assistance, claiming it was deterring people from getting back to work in a pandemic that savaged florida's service and tourism industry. to what jobs? he didn't say. the cruel blocking of jobless aid to struggling floridians came just as the delta variant began pummeling the state.

it would seem the cruelty is the point. after all, your health is secondary to the economy. it doesn't stop there. desantis refused to reinstate a moratorium on evictions as the federal ban was set to end at the end of july. perhaps he doesn't understand that homelessness makes pandemics worse. maybe he does and doesn't care. at that point, the state had only distributed 2% of federal rent assistance with hundreds of millions still on the table. now as governor death-santis continues to push to infect the sunshine state's children with his dangerous mask mandate ban, he is allowing children to go hungry. they have yet to apply for up to $820 million in federal food assistance dollars for more than 2 million florida kids. that's on top of the $280 million a month lost for federal snap benefit recipients after he

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