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this latest, like, really dangerous snake oil nonsense around covid. we obviously held that special report tonight because of the events in afghanistan today, but we will bring that report to you tomorrow night. i will see you then. bring thatu tomorrow night. i will see you then. "way too early" is up next. my heart aches for you and i know this, we have a continuing obligation, a sacred obligation, to all of you, families of those heroes, that obligation is not temporary, it lasts forever. the lives we lost today were lives given in the service of liberty, the service of security and the service of others. in the service of america. >> at least 13 service members and dozens of afghans are dead
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after twin bombings at the gates of kabul's international airport. president biden is vowing to continue with evacuations, the question is are troops bracing for more attacks? plus across the country more than 100,000 people are hospitalized with coronavirus. it's the highest number of hospitalizations we have seen since january, before vaccines were widely available to the public. the question is when will we see case numbers go down again? and the supreme court throws out the biden administration's eviction moratorium. the question is what does this mean for millions of americans who are behind in rent? it's way too early for this. ♪♪ >> good morning, and welcome to "way too early," i'm sam stein. this friday, august 27th. we start in afghanistan where 13 u.s. service members and according to the associated press at least 95 afghans are dead following terror attacks in
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kabul. gunmen in two suicide bombers targeted thousands of people waiting near hamid karzai international airport yesterday, they were hoping to escape the new taliban rule. the first blast came just outside the airport gates and was followed by another explosion at a nearby hotel where would be evacuees were waiting. u.s. officials say gunmen opened fire on those gathered near the airport. isis-k the islamic state terror group's afghanistan affiliate has claimed responsibility for the killings. earlier in the day the u.s. embassy warned americans to stay away from the airport, citing a potential attack. the british and australian governments also send out similar messages. this was the deadliest day for the u.s. military in more than a decade. the u.s. military is pressing forward with evacuations in afghanistan. the state department says at least 500 americans were airlifted out of the country yesterday and just 1,000 remain. since the taliban entered kabul on august 14th officials say
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more than 5,000 americans and roughly 100,000 people have been evacuated in total. of the u.s. citizens still there the state department has said it has been in contact with most if not all of them. my colleagues at "politico" are reporting that u.s. officials gave the taliban a list of american and afghan names to evacuate in hopes of expediting the process but that has prompted outrage from some officials one telling "politico," quote, they just put all those afghans on a kill list. speaking from the white house yesterday president biden denounced the attack at the kabul airport and pledged to hunt down the terrorists responsible for the bombings. >> the lives we lost today were lives given in the service of liberty, the service of security, the service of others. in the service of america. like their fellow brothers and sisters in arms who died defending our vision and our
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values, the struggle against terrorism, of the fallen this day are part of a great noble company of american heroes. for those who carried out this attack, as well as anyone who wishes america harm, know this, we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. i will defend our interests and our people with every measure at my command. >> president biden was also asked yesterday about the decision to give up bag gram air base and here is what he had to say about that. >> on the tactical questions of how to conduct an evacuation or a war, i gather up all the major military personnel that are in
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afghanistan, the commanders, as well as the pentagon, and i ask for their best military judgment what would be the most efficient way to accomplish the mission. they concluded, the military, that bagram was not much value added that it was much wiser to focus on kabul so i followed that recommendation. >> president biden was also asked yesterday about the administration's relationship with the taliban. let's take a listen. >> no one trusts them. we're just counting on their self-interest to continue to generate their activities. it's in their self-interest that we leave when we said and that
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we get as many people out as we can. it's a matter of mutual self-interest. but there is no evidence thus far that i've been given as a consequence by any of our commanders in the field that there has been collusion between the taliban and isis in carrying out what happened today, both in front of the hotel and what is expected to continue for -- beyond today. >> all right. joining us now nbc news tehran bureau chief ali arouzi. thank you for joining us. quick question to you that came to me immediately, how are american forces in kabul now balancing evacuation efforts with efforts to prevent another attack that seems present?
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>> reporter: well, sam, i mean, it's an extraordinary set of circumstances and far from ideal for u.s. troops having to rely on the taliban, an enemy they've been fighting for 20 years, to provide security against isis. really underscoring just how precarious the situation is in afghanistan, and obviously they're going to have to beef up their security on the ground there. they're going to need to be extra vigilant. but, you know, short of leaving the perimeter of the airport there's not much else they can do. nonetheless, the evacuation flights from afghanistan have resumed with a new sense of urgency as the u.s. says that further attempted attacks are expected ahead of tuesday's deadline. where not just u.s. troops have to leave, but all foreign troops have to leave. it's something general mckenzie the head of centcom spoke about yesterday. let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> right now our focus really we have other active threat streams, extremely active threat
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streams against the airfield. we want to make sure we've taken the steps to take to protect ourselves there. we believe it is their desire to continue those attacks and we expect those attacks to continue and are doing everything we can to be prepared for those attacks. >> reporter: as obviously they've been talking, sam, about more specific threats, maybe not just from isis-k, but other jihadist groups and of course now the fear is that the longer the u.s. troops are on the ground, the higher the probability of another attack against them. look, yesterday's bombings was the deadliest day for u.s. forces in afghanistan since august 2011. they don't want another day like that before this evacuation is over, so they're going to expedite their efforts to get this job done quickly and get out of afghanistan as fast as possible with as few casualties as possible. >> ali, president biden said yesterday that the u.s. is going to continue to work with the taliban out of necessity. it seems like that's a condition
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on the ground, but doesn't this also give legitimacy to the taliban that it has long desired? >> reporter: absolutely. i mean, like i said, it's far from ideal a situation to have to rely on the taliban for security, to give them legitimacy, to make them look like the legitimate governors of afghanistan when they didn't take over through any sort of election, they took over by strong-arming the country, by threatening to kill anybody that opposed them. so, yes, it does give a 20-year enemy of the united states legitimacy, people that the united states have been fighting on the ground for two decades that have lost service members to the taliban, but what's the choice when you want to leave the country so hastily and those are the people that are providing security on the ground? look, the taliban have shown that they can take over a country fairly easily, but providing security is not something they've been able to
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do. within a week of taking over the country, you know, isis have crept in and conducted a devastating attack that's killed at least 90 afghans. so this is far from ideal having to work with the taliban and, as you say, give them a veneer of legitimacy at the same time. >> ali, along that point, what do we know about isis-k, the group that's claiming responsibility for the attack and what do we know about the relationship it has with the taliban, if any? >> well, as far as similarities between isis-k and the taliban go, you know, they are very fundamentalist groups that have a very, very strict interpretation of sharia law and that's where their relationship stops. apart from that, these two are arch enemies with each other. when isis wanted to expand its footprint beyond syria, beyond iraq, they decided to try to get
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a foot hold in afghanistan. they went in there at about 2014 and immediately there was a clash with the taliban. they had running battles for several years, and in 2017 the taliban were able to make them retreat and stop those battles, but they still have a large presence in afghanistan, at the very least 700 people, many of them may have been in the prison where the doors were flung open when kabul fell. this is a group that is even more fundamentalist than the taliban. they think the taliban -- while the taliban were off in hotels in doha talking to the u.s., trying to figure out a way to get the u.s. out, they say these guys were fighting the u.s. troops and they're very, very hardened. they have no problem with racking up civilian casualties as we've seen.
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so the fear is that they are going to try to get a foot hold in there. i mean, their obvious ambition would be to turn afghanistan into their own caliphate, but short of that they probably want a foot hold in there where they can use it as a training ground and launch more attacks, but they're going to be at odds with the taliban and the people that are going to come off worse off immediately are the afghan people because they have, you know, the terrible taliban ruling the country and then these zealots that are isis-k also fighting the taliban and launching terrorist attacks from there. it's not a good situation all around. >> it seems like an understatement. alley arouzi thank you for your reporting analysis on a grim day. hospitalizations from coronavirus are spiking across the country hitting numbers we haven't seen since january. plus texas lawmakers advance a controversial republican elections bill which democrats have blocked for weeks by fleeing the state.
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later in the show i will be joined by congressman dan kildee to discuss the situation in afghanistan and yesterday's terror attacks. we will be right back with much, much more. acks we will be right back with much, much more. ♪ music playing. ♪ there's an america we build ♪ ♪ and one we explore one that's been paved and one that's forever wild but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure
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welcome back. there are more than 100,000 people across the country in hospitals right now being treated for coronavirus. that's the highest number since january when vaccines were not widely available to the public. at least 17,000 of those patients are in the state of florida where resources are being stretched to the breaking point. nbc news correspondent kerry sanders has the latest. >> reporter: in florida the new hot bed of the pandemic ambulance services overwhelmed by manual calls. >> we have multiple covid patients that want transportation. >> reporter: nationwide more than 100,000 covid patients in hospital icus.
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the crisis most acute in florida where the hospitalization rate has tripled in just the last month. at tampa general the covid ward at 90% capacity, three times what they have had at the highest point last year. >> it's really just -- it's like nothing i have ever seen. >> reporter: florida hospitals now reporting 90% of those admitted were unvaccinated. >> it feels like it's almost worse than it was when it started last year. the patients we're getting are younger and they're turning sicker much faster. >> reporter: florida's governor today encouraging vaccines, but actively pushing back against mask mandates. >> you just have to understand it's going to be part of life and there's ways to protect yourself on the front end, there's also ways to treat yourself on the back end. >> so far this school year at least 90,000 students have had to quarantine in 19 states as covid cases surge, especially among children.
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according to the american academy of pediatrics, more than 180,000 children tested positive for covid-19 between august 12th and august 19th. that accounts for nearly 4% of the more than 4.5 million child covid infections reported since the beginning of the pandemic. the department of health and human services reports that coronavirus hospitalizations among children are climbing. as of yesterday more than 1,400 covid patients were hospitalized in pediatric inpatient beds across the nation. democrats months' long battle ended in defeat last night when the texas house passed a new restrictive voting bill. the vote passed the house -- texas house mostly on party lines and follows unprecedented efforts by democrats to block it. the bill limits early and drive-thru voting, tightens rules around mail-in ballots and empowers partisan poll watchers and new rules and penalties for election officials.
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it moves to the state senate where they have already pass add similar version. texas is set to become the latest republican led state to pass new rules on election administration in the wake of the 2020 elections. meanwhile, seven capitol police officers yesterday filed suit against former president donald trump, more than a dozen alleged participants in the january 6th attack on the capitol, suing for injuries and abuse endured as they protected congress. the "washington post" reports that the lawsuit filed in u.s. district court in washington, d.c. alleges that trump by falsely claiming the presidential election was rigged incited a mob of supporters to storm the capitol in an effort to stop congress from confirming president joe biden's victory. the lawsuit says defendants are responsible for officers, quote, being violently assaulted and put in fear for their lives. it goes on to say that former president trump, quote, refused to call off the attackers whom he had personally directed to the capitol just moments before.
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representatives for former president trump did not respond to a request for comment but they have claimed absolute immunity for acts in office in similar lawsuits. the suit asks for compensatory and punitive damages and that a jury determine the amount. still ahead, we continue to follow the very latest out of afghanistan following yesterday's deadly attack at the kabul airport. also this morning states along the gulf coast are bracing for a possible hurricane this weekend. meteorologist bill karins will join us with a look at the tropics. we will be back in just a moment. tropics. we will be back in just a moment open talenti and raise the jar. to gelato made from scratch. raise the jar to all five layers. raise the jar to the best gelato... you've ever tasted. talenti. raise the jar. so, you have diabetes, here are some easy rules. no sugar. no pizza. no foods you love. stressed? no stress. exercise.
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vaccinated and the league has reported 68 positive cases out of 7,200 tested individuals over the first three weeks of august. those numbers will rise with the addition of two titans starters including quarterback ryan tannehill to the covid list. still ahead as the u.s. scrambles to pull u.s. troops and american citizens from afghanistan isis is reentering the picture, trying to reassert itself as the taliban takes control of the country. we will have the very latest from nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. plus, congressman dan kildee will be my guest coming up in just a few minutes. but before we go to break, we want to know why are you awake? it's a great question. email your reasons to way too early@msnbc.com or streaming @samstein. we will read our favorite answers, show some pictures, who knows, all coming up later in the show. pictures, who knows, all coming up later in the show
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they're most exposed, as troops were patting down an evacuee at a kabul airport gate, searching for a bomb, he or she, that's still unclear, detonated one. >> this is close up war. the breath of the person you are searching is upon you. while we have overwatch in place we still have to touch the clothes of the person that is coming in. ultimately americans have got to be in danger to do these searches, there's really no other way to do it. >> reporter: another bomb exploded a few hundred yards from the first as isis fighters sprayed gunfire, afghans tumbled, dead and injured, into a sewage ditch. we drove through this exact spot a few days ago, a corridor flanked by concrete blast walls that leads right to an airport gate. the u.s. is relying on the taliban to pre-screen the crowds pushing to get into the airport, hoping for a flight out of afghanistan. patting them down before they're checked again by u.s. troops. this stragerringly new bizarre
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and security cooperation broke down. >> nearly if they're able to get up to the range of the entry point of the base there is a failure somewhere. a failure by taliban operate with varying degrees of competence, some are good, some are not. >> reporter: a few weeks ago the u.s. was bombing the taliban but when u.s. troops pulled out triggering the collapse of the afghan army there is no one left but the taliban to protect marne forces as they leave. isis-k an isis offshoot claimed responsibility. many of their fighters and extremists including al qaeda members were in afghan jailed but when u.s. backed afghan forces melted away the prisoners escaped and for the past few weeks have been on the loose. they have one clear target, the kabul airport, where nearly all the americans in afghanistan are gathered and are still gathering until they leave. >> joining us now defense reporter covering the pentagon
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for "politico" laura selig man. president obama and other officials warned about the possibility of this type of terrorist attack. i'm curious, obviously the threat was serious, what kind of measures were taken to prevent it and could they have potentially had more success in doing so? >> well, certainly they had a clear warning that some kind of attack was coming over the last week, over the last few days especially and to the point where they even warned lawmakers in calls on wednesday and thursday that something like this was going to happen. what they've been doing is basically outsourcing airport security to the taliban, so the u.s. troops control the inside, the interior perimeter of the airport but then there is an outer perimeter that the taliban is manning with check points of their own. basically what they're doing is screening everyone that comes in to make sure they are not a
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threat, but of course there are crowds of thousands and thousands of people outside of the outer perimeter just trying to get in and honestly this was something that we really could have seen coming that someone, some kind of threat comes up to the outer gate and like we saw yesterday detonate add suicide bomb. >> the question how does the u.s., then, going forward balance the safety of americans, the threats that they face and the commitments we have made essentially to get out of afghanistan by august 31st, while leaving no one behind? >> well, that's a really great question and i think that's one that officials are really struggling with right now. i mean, it should be said that this evacuation has been a huge success so far in terms of just the shear numbers. yesterday i believe we reached over 100,000 people that have been evacuated since july by the u.s. military and u.s. commercial and other nato and
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civilian airliners. so huge, huge, massive effort, but of course there are still some 4,000 americans on the ground in kabul and tens of thousands more afghan allies at risk afghans that are still trying to get out and it's really hard to say whether they're going to be able to get out at this point because, as we heard yesterday, american soldiers have welded the gates shut, they aren't letting any more people through and although flights are still taking off from the airport, it's going to be really difficult to get anyone else out just given the chaotic and awful situation that happened yesterday. >> lara, i have a final question for you which has been on my mind. president biden portrayed the idea of getting out as something that the military has embraced. i'm wondering from your own reporting is there dissension in the ranks over sticking to this 8/31 deadline, including in light of the attack yesterday? >> well, i certainly think that there was some dissension in the
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ranks about getting out of afghanistan. i know that many military officials, including the top generals back in -- all the way to january advised president biden to leave a small force of a couple thousand u.s. soldiers on the ground in afghanistan, a, to provide counterterrorism and, b, to keep the taliban at bay, but ever since the president made clear that august 31st or originally it was september 11th was the deadline, everyone saluted and said, yes, sir, we will do this. honestly the president has stood extremely steadfast this whole time and i don't think there's any chance really of him reversing his decision. so if there are some people right now who are saying maybe we should stay, honestly i think that the attack yesterday made it even clearer that the president needs to come to his -- meet his deadline and get american troops out. >> all right. "politico's" lara seligman thank you for waking up with us this
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morning. still ahead, the news isn't gloomy enough parts of the u.s. is bracing for another weekend of extreme weather as a potential hurricane brews over the gulf of mexico. the latest on tropical storm ida and a check on today's forecast when "way too early" comes right back. forecast enwh "way too early" comes right back when you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. new zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. it's non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. new zzzquil ultra. when you really really need to sleep.
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tropical storm ida could become a powerful hurricane this weekend, potentially hitting states along the gulf coast. the national hurricane center has issued warnings for mississippi and alabama. let's go to bill karins for more on this. give us the bad news. >> it's unbelievable we're talking louisiana again, last year i think we had four, maybe five storms making impact in the state. this one doesn't look like it's headed for lake charles, this could be a serious threat for central louisiana and possibly the new orleans area. let's get to the latest, winds ticked up from 40 to 45 miles
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per hour, the bottom line is this storm has 60 hours until landfall and it's going to intensify all the way up into landfall. it's a matter of how strong could this storm get in the next 60 hours, two and a half days. the hurricane center thinks this thing will have a category 2, 100 miles per hour winds midnight saturday night into sunday morning. they are saying a major hurricane landfall with 115 mile per hour winds as a category 3, close to morgan city or homa, that's that center red line. two days out that's about 80 to 100 miles average air so this could shift east or west and then the storm is going to slowly weaken and bring torrential rain and even some high winds right over baton rouge and then it will rain itself out tuesday into wednesday over the southeast. we have excellent agreement with almost all of our computer models this is heading for either south central louisiana or southeast louisiana and of course that puts new orleans on that dirty right side.
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we have hurricane watches up for this area and there is going to be a ton of water issues. we are expecting rainfall totals 8 to 16 inches, isolated 20 inches of rain including the new orleans area, sam, and on top of that a storm surge of 7 to 11 heat. this is as serious as it gets for a hurricane forecast for the northern gulf coast. >> you deliver terrible news, but thank you for your service. i appreciate t please be careful out there. still ahead congressman dan kildee joins us to discuss the security concerns in afghanistan as the u.s. works to evacuate the remaining americans from the country. "way too early" will be back in just a moment. ay too early" wil just a moment. i've lost count of how many asthma attacks i've had. but my nunormal with nucala? fewer asthma attacks. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection.
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and facilities. we will respond with force and precision at our time, at the place we choose and the moment of our choosing. here is what you need to know, these isis terrorist also not win. we will rescue the americans in there. we will get our afghan allies out. our mission will go on. america will not be intimidated. >> despite yesterday's deadly attack president biden is vowing to continue evacuations from afghanistan. joining us now to discuss that and other things, democratic congressman dan kildee of michigan. congressman, thank you so much for joining us, we really appreciate it. let me start off right now, do you think the president is right in light of what happened yesterday to keep that august 31st deadline for withdrawal? >> well, like other members i have had a concern that we not set a deadline that is based on anything other than what it takes to get the americans that are there out, as well as the
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afghan nationals who supported us, but i'm not going to second-guess the security and intelligence on the ground. we've had classified briefings, i can't get into the detail of that, but suffice to say there was great concern that something like this could take place, there was knowledge that it was possible. what i want to do is make sure that we get as many, if not all those who should get out out as safely as possible and if that means we have to set a deadline, knowing that there may still be some extractions afterward, you know, i think the thing we have to acknowledge is that the last days of our departure were going to be really tough no matter when it would be. so, you know, there has to be some date certain. i'm going to leave it to the experts on the ground. there are just a lot of armchair defense experts all of a sudden now trying to second-guess a situation that they know very
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little about. we have to rely on the commanders on the ground, the intelligence that we have and act in a manner that keeps us safe. if that means sticking to a deadline, knowing that there still may need to be additional actions to extract people very carefully, then i will support that effort. >> let me just pick up on that a little bit. you know, you talk to your constituents back home, your voters. do you think they get it that wars are messy when they come to an end? are you hearing from them? what is their general response both to the draw down in afghanistan and if you've heard from any of them what happened yesterday? >> well, with almost no exception there's broad agreement that it was time for us, long past time for us to depart from afghanistan. i was there eight years ago and i could tell myself that this was just never going to end well. there was going to be a day like the days we're facing right now at some point. but, you know, there is a lot of
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concern and frankly a lot of second guessing about the steps that led to the events of the last several days and there is a lot of pain with this. you know, this is hard. we've lost american lives. we've lost far too many in that country and every one of them matters. that's what i hear from my constituents. it's the sense that let's get out. let's end this. but that doesn't erase the fact that 13 lives, maybe more, were lost in this effort, adding to the over 2,000 that were already lost. my own family touched by this. my first cousin's son a decade ago gave his life in afghanistan. so this is painful for everybody, but that doesn't change the fact that the president made the right decision and, let's face it, president trump, his predecessor, also made the decision to get out. that was the right judgment, but
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the people i talk to are exhausted by the pain that has been visited upon the american people due to our presence in afghanistan and i think they're feeling it now because of the loss of life that we're experiencing. >> i hear you i hear you and th your family for the service too. i have to ask a question about the geo politics of the region because we're saying we have to enter a pact with the taliban to ensure that the region, the country doesn't descend into a terrorist hot bed. do you think we can actually trust the taliban? >> i don't believe we can trust them. as the president said yesterday, i think the only thing we can trust them to do is pursue their self-interest. we have to keep that in mind as we move forward. but this is not an organization, first of all it's not as unified and orderly an organization as
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many would think that they might be. it's not a top-down entity that has a command structure easy to discern. that's similar to the whole situation in afghanistan. this is a really treacherous situation. i think we do have to try to manage the geo politics in the region, as best we can, knowing whether it's the afghan government or the taliban, it's a very weak nationhood in afghanistan. it's one of the challenges that i think has made this so difficult. >> all right. congressman, next time we'll do the interview where you're behind the drum set, not in front of it. thank you for joining us this morning. appreciate it. why are you awake? we asked that question. the answers, steve writes couldn't wait to watch the paraolympics on dvr.
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i agree with that. kelly tweeted i'm up because when scooper wants to eat, there's no sleeping. eric writes, my son, kyle, is at fort benning in basic training, and i send him a letter every day. i usually write at night but i was too tired so i'm writing this morning before work. up next a look at the axios one big thing and coming up on "morning joe," continued coverage of the situation in afghanistan as evacuations resume after the deadliest day for the u.s. military in more than a decade. plus we'll hear from congressman seth moulton. "morning joe" is just moments away. on "morning joe" is just moments away i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please!
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the opinion reads in part, quote, it would be one thing if congress had specifically authorized the action that the cdc has taken, but that has not happened. the cdc has placed a nationwide moratorium on evictions in reliance on a decades-old statute. it strains kre duality to believe this statute grants the cdc the authority it exerts. joining me the co-founder of punch bowl news was up at 2:00 a.m. watching the yankees and still joins us. i'm surprised you're awake. >> you have to do what you love, man. i love the yankees and i love punch bowl. >> congratulations on 12 in a row, even though it pains me to say it. we know progressives fought hard for the moratorium, we saw the camp outs in front of congress.
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i know in jen psaki's statements she mentioned no need for congressional action is that because there's no possibility for it on the hill? >> yeah, at this point congress is not going to pass an eviction moratorium. it's not going to get through a 50/50 senate and may have problems getting through a democratic run house with a three-vote margin. there are moderate democrats that don't favor this. congress did approve $50 billion for tenants and landlords in aid and that money has not gone out. only a fraction of that money has gone out. the states are sitting on it. i know this is something speaker pelosi and majority leader schumer have been going crazy about this. they tried to press the treasury department and the administration through all of its federal officials to push
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the states to get this money out to landlords, get this money out to renters. but congress is not going to extend this on its own. >> i was wondering, it seems the action now goes to the states. congress is basically pleading with them to take this money that's been authorized already. is that where the next action is, congress says governor x, y, get going on this because relief is not coming your way from us? >> i think that's where it'll be. i agree with you. i do think there will be a house vote on extending a moratorium or an effort to do this. cori bush, who spent five days sleeping out on the capitol steps protesting is calling for congress to come back, come back from the august break, the house isn't back until september 20th. i don't see that happening. but i do think there will be an
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effort to try to pass something in congress, but i don't think it'll overcome republican opposition in the senate. >> listen, congrats again on the dozen in a row wins. i hope they have a dozen in a row losses. >> 60 years, we're watching history, folks. >> i shouldn't have opened that can of worms. john, thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you all for getting up way too early with us on this friday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >> the lives we lost today were lives given in the service of liberty, the service of security, the service of others. in the service of america. like their fellow brothers and sisters in arms who have died defending our vision and our values, the struggle against
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terrorism, the fallen this day they're part of a great noble company of american heroes. to those who carried out this attack, as well as anyone who wishes america harm, know this. we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. i'll defend our interests and our people with every measure at my command. >> president biden vowing the united states will retaliate against the terrorists responsible for yesterday's attacks in afghanistan in what was the deadliest day for the u.s. military in more than a decade. good morning welcome to "morning joe" i'm willie geist. it's friday, august 27th. 13 u.s. service members and according to the associated press at least 95 afghans are dead following the terror attacks in kabul. more than 140 people were wounded in the
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