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and see. lake tahoe is such a jewel of that region in california and it looks nothing like it usually does. be safe. we appreciate your reporting. you can find us on twitter. thank you for joining us. yasmine picks up coverage right now. good tuesday morning. i am in for craig melvin. it's a busy hour ahead. in about 45 minutes we expect to get an update on ida's deadly path of destruction from the governor and head of fema as well, and we know four people are dead in louisiana and mississippi, and officials fear that number could actually go up. for more than a million customers in louisiana, it's day two of no power. experts warning those days could stretch into weeks and we are live across the south with the latest. we are also watching the
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white house. in less than four hours, the president will speak on the day america's longest war has finally ended. the last flight with the final group of u.s. service members onboard took off, including this man, the last service member to leave the country. 20 years after combat operations began this morning, we will talk about what it all meant and if it was worth it. all of that, as we see a very different kabul airport this morning. taliban fighters walking around the airport there. we have courtney kube, and
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secretary of defense for russia, ukraine and she's private a network of private citizens as well working with afghans that directly or indirectly supported our path to safe refuge out of afghanistan. the first full day this war is now over in afghanistan, we have all seen the iconic photo i just showed, army major photo, the last service member to leave afghanistan. there's still some hundreds of americans there, 1 to 200, not to mention thousands of afghan allies. the president saying he stands by his decision to bring our men and women home. what are we hearing from the president? >> i think we will hear more of that. the president has used opportunities to underscore the
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part of the debate the white house is most comfortable with, the idea that he feels he made the right decision in ending the 20-year involvement in afghanistan and no longer sending men and women into harm's way over there for a mission that he said was no longer about nation building and would never be successful in that regard. what we can see from the president today, unlike those times he was speaking to the country, he was reacting to events, the chaotic and messy and tragic events that played out over the last two weeks, and now the last american soldier is gone, and he will use this opportunity to make the broad case to the country what happened over the last few weeks and what happens moving forward, and we heard some of this yesterday from general mackenzie and tony blinken laying out the diplomatic path forward, and you heard national security adviser,
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jake sullivan, saying, 98% of americans have gotten out and there's a diplomatic mission that will move forward. we should hear the president talk about what he believes the path is forward. secretary of state blinken said not to say there's trust between the u.s. and taliban, and what does that relationship look like going forward? i think the most interesting thing to look for is whether the president will now try to move forward. yesterday -- last week it was notable that the president began remarks that ended up on afghanistan by talking about his infrastructure agenda, and now this ending of the war in afghanistan will allow us to focus on domestic issues moving forward. >> courtney, i think one of the things we need to expand upon, a lot of americans are asking even
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the 1 to 200 americans still there in afghanistan along with the afghan allies that have the papers to get out of afghanistan, what is the plan to continue working on getting them out? >> i think what we have seen in the last 24 hours here is the end of 20 years of a military mission in afghanistan, and it's now transitioned to a diplomatic mission and that's what we are going to see going forward in the efforts to get any americans and any afghans that may be eligible for u.s. diplomatic help to get them out of the country. there has been a lot of speculation and questions about whether or not the u.s. military would be involved in the diplomatic process, and the answer at this point is no, not at this point. what we are looking at, the diplomatic perspective, and the u.s. working in an intermediary, mostly the qataris, and having them coordinate to get more americans and afghans out.
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the other option really is economic. the taliban will need money moving forward. they need -- the afghan government was heavily rely upt on international funding to stay afoot, and the taliban will find themselves needing funding to move forward with the afghan government. those are the two most likely areas. the question is will there still be a military aircraft going in for extractions of people in the future. will we see something like that? i don't think that's outside the realm of impossible in the future, and i think all of that is still being worked out and remains to be seen. >> evelyn, can we take a moment to reflect upon the last 20 years. it's astounding to think, october 7th, 2001, since then we
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have lost 2,461 u.s. troops, and between 66,000 and 69,000 national military police, and more than 47,000 civilians and more than 50,000 opposition fighters. each of those having a family they left behind, brothers, sisters, daughters, sons, mothers and fathers. what has changed in the last 20 years because of this war? >> well, first of all, we achieved our military objectives or the national security objectives the ones that president biden outlined initially, actually pretty quickly, and although by staying in afghanistan we did continue to deny the terrorists a safe haven and an area for which they could base operations against the u.s. and the west. that was an ongoing effort and something that we achieved over time. in addition to that, of course we did conduct some of this nation building.
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it's undeniable that millions of afghan women received an education because of our efforts there, and we imagined to create a whole cadre of people there who are now fleeing for their lives and they are well educated and experts of running a government or small businesses, and now they won't be there to benefit afghanistan, although some of them are trapped and we still need to get them out. we did, i think, make some changes to the society. i don't think, you know, we're going to see a real positive benefit with the taliban in power until maybe another generation. i also am afraid there will be more conflict, you know, more war inside afghanistan because it's not clear if the taliban can control a country. >> so much of the future is relying on the taliban now, and i want to read for you a quote from the "new york times" that i thought was fascinating and a really important question going
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forward. saying this, it's up to the taliban now to decide if they will perpetuate the cycle of vengeance or will truly embrace their leaders promised the last few days, one of acceptance and reconciliation. what do you think? >> this is critical. as we move into the next phase, there are two things we hope for for the taliban, right? first, they abide by this new language where they said women will have rights, although they say under sharia, which leaves an open question as to what that means, but they say they will abide by human rights and there could be power sharing in government. how are they going to govern? and there are still people in harm's way, and taliban leaders told they would be killed if they came back into that area, and if we don't have the taliban helping get people out, more
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people will be killed by taliban fighters, whether the political leadership in the taliban condones that or not. we need urgent help from the white house, frankly speaking, giving a green light to private organizations, individuals, to fund ngos to get people out, people who have the paperwork to be accepted into the u.s. or other countries, and not just u.s. citizens but many of the afghans, thousands of them. and that means working with the taliban to get flights out of northern afghanistan, and we know they are letting the people flying food into afghanistan in, let's get planes out with the people who want to leave, and the white house can help with processing and third world countries and getting the word out to consulates and embassies that these people can come in with temporary visas, and we could use all the pressure we have to get people out and then to basically protect human rights going forward in the country. >> what is the most important
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thing, evelyn, that needs to happen to get these folks out safely? >> our government needs to negotiate safe passage for these people out of afghanistan, with the government and countries on the border. >> take us through what kabul looks like this morning, much different than the last couple of days, my understanding there was a press conference held this morning by the taliban at the airport? >> yeah, that's right. this was not just any press conference, and it was held amid the abandoned equipment left by the military, and forces were carrying american weapons, and a senior weapon of the haqqani
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network was there, and the message of all of this was clear, the taliban are in charge once again for the first time since october 2001, and they control every search of afghanistan except for a very small portion held by resistance fighters. what they said in the press conference, they tried to strike a pragmatic tone, and this new taliban government is trying to show the world it can be a responsible member of the international community. they are very eager to get humanitarian aid in the country and get investments into the country. the state department and other u.s. allies are hoping that that taliban desire leaves open a point of leverage for the international community to try and hold them to accounts on these promises they made, that
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they will respect the rights of women and girls, and they will not harm afghans that served alongside u.s. forces and they will allow, both u.s. citizens and afghan nationals to leave the country, that they will give them safe passage out. >> yeah, it comes down to money, the money and the financial backing they need right now. courtney, let's talk about the national security plan here to protect against a growing threats like isis-k and isis cannot gain control under taliban rule. >> it's aircraft, and many of them unmanned in neighboring countries that the u.s. will use to continue to watch some of these groups and potentially strike at them when they have targets that are available and that they can hit. the overall -- look, there's the two biggest threats to the u.s. homeland and to western allies
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in afghanistan. one is al qaeda. al qaeda has not really had the ability to carry out any kind of a transnational or international attack in several years, and now that the taliban has taken over there will be large ungoverned spaces and there's a concern al qaeda groups will flow there and reconstitute and grow and be able to focus outside the region again towards western and transnational attacks. they have been largely focused on other areas, particularly yemen, but that could happen and that's a real concern. even more immediate is how isis-k has grown and strengthened literally in the last few months. we heard scary numbers from general mackenzie yesterday at the pentagon briefing where they said they are now in the number of 2,000 hard core members, and that's due in large part to the
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fact that when the taliban rolled through many of the areas they opened up the prisons and many of the fighters got out. the more recent estimate for isis presence in afghanistan was somewhere in the 500 to 1,000, and at the end of the day it's not so much about the numbers of people who are there and fighters who are there, it's about their capabilities and desire. isis-k showed last week that even when a smaller presence they can still carry out these spectacular attacks in afghanistan. the concern is will they start to change their focus because overall both al qaeda and isis have this desire to attack outside the region. will they be able to grow and build to the point where they can actually do that again? that's what military leaders are concerned about, and that's what they are watching. we heard something very interesting from general mackenzie yesterday when he was talking about the threat, he said the taliban now that they are in control for afghanistan, they will have a difficult time dealing with isis-k, and they
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let them out of the prisons and they will reap what they sew. >> it's a wait and see scenario, watching what happens in afghanistan over the coming years. evelyn, before you go i want to talk quickly about what is next for the refugees, and we already had the broken system, and the trump policies exacerbated that. where will these refugees go next? >> first of all, these refugees are in a special category because of the special immigrant visa status. that means they are given a more expedited assistance, i guess. the reality is they have to go into communities and be integrated and housing has to be provided for them, and there are a lot of really charitable organizations and individuals helping communities, and all of the major religions, the
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lutheran church, the catholic church and jewish organizations, they have refugee organizations that have been active for decades and they are truly professional and working with the u.s. government and humanitarian organizations bringing the afghans out. we will continue to provide support and maintain focus on it. >> thank you, guys. appreciate it, guys. more ahead as we mark the end of america's longest war. what members of our military are saying as we are closing this painful chapter. we are getting a fuller picture of the storm's devastation now. >> the ceiling in every room was caved in. grand isle, one of the first hit now last to be rescued. we will talk about the dire situation there and the help that they still need, coming up next.
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welcome back. so in less than 30 minutes we are expecting louisiana governor, john bell edwards, to give an update on the recovery efforts. at least four people in louisiana and mississippi have died and officials fear that number will rise. the louisiana national guard has rescued at least 282 people and 32 pets as entire communities
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were ravaged by floodwaters, and over one million homes do not have power and it could take weeks to get it back. sam brock is in laplace, louisiana, and we are tracking coast guard flights. sam, we spoke to you on the phone yesterday in the 3:00 p.m. hour and we saw a lot of footage you and your team had been shooting but so far in the last 24 hours or so what you have been seeing when it comes to the devastation from this hurricane? >> reporter: it's hot right now, and we are in louisiana at the end of summer and there's no electricity, as you were just spelling out a second ago and there may not be for a long time, and they are waiting for their neighborhoods to dry up. this is the same neighborhood in laplace where we saw all the cajun navy boats and national guard and strangers coming in with their own boats trying to
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rescue people here. we are 40 plus hours removed from when ida whipped its way through louisiana, and you will see a couple smaller cars struggling, which is happening over my shoulder currently. the amount of water in the street, this far removed from ida, if i put my foot in it would go completely in and would be up to my mid shin, and i did not bring my rain boots and that was not a good move, and one gentleman said they could have expected this because in 2012 isaac brought a lot of water, too. it was the wind damage they were not anticipating. here's how one man described the experience of ida rolling through. >> it sounded like for 3 1/2 hours to 4 hours sounded like a train was coming through here. that's what it sounded like, a
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train, nonstop. a lot of water. more water in this 20 years i experienced living here. >> reporter: this tops anything you have seen? >> yeah. >> reporter: this is just what we can see. over my shoulder, i'm told from residents, the further back you go the deeper the water gets. i am told yesterday it was waist high, and there were hundreds of rescues. the louisiana national guard said there was 280 people or so they rescued yesterday, and neighbors said they observed 300 plus rescues in the community, and this is more now secondary sweeps trying to get everything cleared out and power restored. this is a reminder of how much water was dumped into this part of louisiana. >> in that area, did a lot of folks leave or did they stay? if they had left, are you seeing
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folks return to their homes to see what took place? >> reporter: no, not a lot of people did leave. i asked the gentleman i did leave do you regret that? he said, yeah, after the fact, absolutely. he said the problem is the levee system when it was improved for new orleans, while it protected that city, it created a backup where a lot of water came down to areas that are west and south of new orleans, and here we are right now, and his theory is that's one of the reasons it never used to flood like that in his neighborhood, but since the improvement of the levee systems in new orleans they have seen situations like this a couple times. >> what are rescue efforts looking like from your vantage point, vaughn? >> reporter: we're talking about
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expansive areas of lapd. our photo journalist, you can see the video he took late yesterday afternoon. when you are looking down in the grand isle part, you will see part of the stretch south of new orleans there, and it's still so difficult for these search and rescue teams to access. you see that coast guard flight trying to their best to survey the damage and see what may still exist there on those parts of the land south of new orleans. there's the 20-mile stretch of highway that is essentially underwater or that is buckled in, and it's made it inaccessible by vehicle, and that's where the coast guard is deployed, as well as 24 shallow water response units into that area to help with the search effort, again, deploying here from mobile, alabama. that's where you are looking at in those areas there where folks still had trouble gaining access to that, and i know we will be waiting for the louisiana
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governor for his update, because we have four confirmed deceased individuals at this time and there are still question marks just to how many individuals stayed behind in grand isle and in the likes of gallie yawn yo, because you can see the mass areas are still underwater, as well as the airport in that area, and that's why the search and rescue efforts are very much under way in those areas. >> we will bring the louisiana governor to folks when we get that live, and sam, vaughn, thank you both for your coverage on this. as always, appreciate it. i want to show you the scene in grand isle, louisiana right now. you see destroyed homes and flooded roads and downed power lines. it's unbelievable to see. you have emergency teams struggling as vaughn just mentioned to rescue residents there. and some residents are stuck on
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their rooftops still waiting to help. want to turn to the president of the jefferson parish. thank you for joining us, madam, president. we appreciate it. your parish was hit hard and you are heading to your operational center. >> i just got off the phone with the governor and he's ready to get up in a helicopter and that's the situation, and this is the view i have been waiting for for days which is to get eyes on grand isle, and i appreciate that very much. very tough situation for us here in grand isle where you are seeing other areas of lafeet.
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up here in the greater new orleans area where we are within the hurricane protection system, we're a broken community. we have no electricity, lack of communication, and we're compromising our sewer and water system. i know it's supposed to be very hot today and the needs are going to be greater for the people living here. we have a lot of work to do. >> let's talk about the communication or lack there of, as you put it in grand isle, the first time you are seeing the footage from what we are showing, people are not able to share their cell views, and how are you preparing for rescue missions and people needing power and essential food and water. >> i didn't know the people were on their rooftops. the mayor was able to get to grand isle and he was only able to walk around certain areas, he
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broke in, and he made it to the fire station and the multiplex, and my idea is that everybody was in one place, and i did not know people were surviving at their homes and that's wonderful, but they have been a long time without food and water and exposed to the elements. it's critical, but as of yesterday we could not land a helicopter there, and i know people are trying to get in. this is just this critical situation we are dealing with where i was only able to speak with the mayor for a few minutes yesterday because he got on top of a bridge and was able to call me. this is the difficulty with rescue is we're kind of crippled when we don't have transportation access, we don't have communication. we can't get equipment in there because the roads are blocked. this is just how crippled we are to respond as quickly as we would want to. >> seems like it's coming down to folks able to get access and word of mouth to say listen,
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this is what is happening in some of the most dire areas, not what we are normally used to. you took part in a briefing on monday with the president. what kind of help -- are you getting enough help from the federal government right now? >> well, honestly today is my day of trying to understand, you know, who is handling what. yesterday was a search and rescue mission. i have been out and i -- i have been on the news a lot but i have not been able to keep up with the news in terms of what is going on around me, and i don't the damage in other areas of the state because i have been focussed on what is in front of me for days now, and everybody is willing to help us but it's just coordinating that effort. electricity being out is the timeframe of when we can put our community back together. our company is entergy, and they are assessing the damage. i am hoping they will notify us soon and give us an estimated timeframe. we are dealing with a water situation here. i issued a boil water advisory
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pause we lost a tremendous amount of pressure due to broken pipes, and our suer system is fragile, too, and we are going to face a hygiene problem with that, because the system is dependent upon energy. some of the people have medical conditions, and they are leaving and i said you are making the right decision, and we can help you but it has to be outside of the community, and i can care for people but not when i don't have electricity or proper clean water, and so some of these people going to a shelter, they can have the medical care and food and water and air-conditioner all in one place, and their basic needs of survival will be met and that's going to be difficult for me to provide here. that's the message, if you
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cannot take care of yourself, we will have buses to get you to a safe place where can you have your basic needs -- >> get to a shelter, and all of this happening, of course, during a pandemic, which adds an extra layer of some roadblocks and obstacles ahead. thank you so much for the work you are doing in your community. thank you. >> thank you. we are staying on top of the devastation from ida and we will take you to louisiana when the governor and president of fema give their update. and then how are members of our military overseas grappling with the emotional weight of this moment? that's next. that's next. i have friends. [] well, he may have friends, but he rides alone. that's jeremy, right there!
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>> reporter: this is part of the military community i have been reporting about, the largest community of americans outside of u.s. borders. we have been hearing the same thing the whole week, everybody in the community when they heard the news and about the suicide bombing on thursday that killed 13 u.s. servicemen, they all pitched in and all wanted to help and that's exactly what happened. when 31 wounded people landed here, this is a major american hospital and it's been essential for the whole american war on terror, whether it be afghanistan, iraq, operations in africa, for the last 20 years, which is, really, you know, it has just been wrapped up as of last night. and we spoke with some of the people running this hospital and we spoke with the head nurse. she said she has been a nurse for the military for the past 20 years and this brought back --
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seeing these young men and women who were injured brought back so many memories and here's what she had to say. >> from a military medicine standpoint, it's a special calling to support our service members and whatever they are doing we are alongside them, and we feel that with them. >> reporter: you know, with all of this talk of tragedy and defeat, i just want to tell you one thing. you know, we also heard from the doctors that of all those hundreds -- 100,000 afghan evacuees that came from the air base where i am standing, there were nine babies born from amstein, and they are going to head to america and start their fresh new lives, and that's what the servicemen and women gave their lives for.
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>> matt bradley, thank you so much. appreciate it. coming up, everybody, the aftermath of ida. more than 1 million customers in louisiana do not have power, and louisiana's governor and fema director will give an update on the devastation any moment now. as soon as that happens, we will bring you there. we'll be right back. hold up! 100% wild-caught tuna ain't new! subway®'s always had 100% wild-caught tuna! y'all tried to sneak one in on the chuckster! my name is douglas. i'm a writer/director subway®'s always had 100% wild-caught tuna! and i'm still working. in the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people who are all younger than you. i had to get help somewhere along the line to stay competitive. i discovered prevagen. i started taking it and after a period of time, my memory improved. it was a game-changer for me.
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for days, and electricity for weeks. as we widen out the shot a little bit you will get a clear understanding of why. the main power transmission line into the town was knocked out by the hurricane-force winds, and that's not factoring in what you see here. the fact that you have power lines down, and many trees down and sometimes into peoples' houses, and you see debris from branches all over. that's what folks are dealing with in the community, and it becomes more powerful when you consider the idea that so many people here stayed and were here in their homes as the storm went through, and that includes a gentleman by the name of chuck that i spoke to just about an hour or so ago. he said he rode katrina in his home and stayed for this storm. listen to why he said this one was so much scarier. >> katrina went right past us, and it came and gone and this one sat on top of us. >> reporter: for how long? >> about eight hours.
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>> reporter: neighbors are saying they are not expecting power again for several weeks. i spoke to another woman battling cancer who is also an asthmatic, and the temperatures when you factor in the humidity are almost triple digits, and you hear the constant hum of generators and the water boil advisory for those who are able to get something through their water systems, you get a sense that for people here it's a lot of time they will be dealing with in the recovery. >> thank you for that reporting. craig, let's talk about some of the difficulties that lie ahead. i was just speaking to the president of jefferson parish, and i showed her footage of grand isle that she said she never have seen before, and we have reports of folks on their rooftops yelling for help, awaiting for help to arrive and she did not know of the reports.
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it seems like one of the biggest issues being faced right now in some of the hard-hit rural areas is a lack of communication. how can they coordinate and expedite help for these people especially as the days tick on? >> they figured they would lose communications, so lot of these areas teams are going in and not waiting for help and they will do a house by house search. they started yesterday before the sun came up and they are still doing that. the plan was, we're going to lose communications but we know where people live. we are going there to search and they are going to search every home. that's going to take yesterday, today, and maybe tomorrow. they will get in these areas and get people out as they start to prepare for what is coming next. >> is it as coordinated, craig, as knowing if some people are more or less able bodied in assessing who needs help more than others?
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>> well, the first part is just getting to all of the areas of destruction and just making sure those folks, you know, you can get to. the next level is, as you heard earlier, some people would probably be better to leave and this is where they need to register for fema, because fema will provide temporarily housing assistance, even if your home was not damaged if your home does not power and you have a medical condition, you can maybe get help outside the area. >> how do they register for fema knowing they don't have internet, cell service, electricity, and maybe they have not even found themselves at a place where they can seek help? how do they register themselves? >> fema is going to start sending teams in. they are not going to get ahead of the rescue teams but they will send teams in the next few
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days to find people, and if they are not registered or could not get registered, they will get them registered and it's another way of getting to people so we are not waiting for them to find fema, and fema will look for them. >> people that left their homes before the storm, many of them want to get back to their houses to assess the damage and figure out what has gone down and what they need to do to recover. the message from so many officials along with you is do not return now, now is not the time. how do you get that message out and why? >> a big reason is if you are going back in, and some people will, and you need to bring all your supplies because you are going back into an area where there's no power or water and you are likely to see that for sometime. it's better if you can stay out and give the teams a chance, one, to complete search and rescue, and two, as the utility crews and department transportation get rid of the
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road debris, and it's not time to come back. there's an urge to come back. if you are coming back, make sure you are fully supplied and understand when you get there there may not be gas or supplies and stores are not open, and if are not self-sufficient you may be moving yourself into a situation where you're going to surfer. so i know people want to get home. i know people want to find out how bad it is, but give it another couple of days. >> it's a tough situation to be in. people want to get back to their houses and see what's gone down, but their safety is first and foremost. craig fugate. we are awaiting a press conference from the louisiana governor who will update us on rescue and recovery efforts from louisiana. as soon as that comes on we will bring that to you. it took just seven days for the u.s. to notch 1 million covid
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recommending its member countries reinstate restrictions on u.s. tourists. nbc's meaghan fitzgerald is covering this and live with this. good to see you. walk us through these new restrictions here. >> reporter: so yasmin, what we saw yesterday was the eu removing the united states from their safe list essentially making american citizens more susceptible from being banned from coming to europe and more restrictions. they're coming forward and recommending to their 27 nations in the eu that non-vaccinated american citizens be banned from coming into europe. of course, this is just recommendations here. we've not seen any european nation come forward and saying they'll be changing their requirements or that they will be banning american citizens any time soon, but this is something that's important to take a look at and to keep an eye on. so for the americans that are
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