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the withdrawal? plus, hundreds of thousands of people in louisiana are still without electricity or running water in the aftermath of hurricane ida. with temperatures soaring, the question is when will power be restored? and in less than two weeks voters in california will decide whether to recall democratic governor gachb newsom. the question is could we see him replaced by a it is "way too early" for this. >> hey, everybody, good morning again. welcome to "way too early," the show that has not yet been recalled, i don't think, i'm jacob soboroff on this wednesday september 1st, we are going to start with the news. amid backlash from both sides of the aisle president biden is forcefully defending his decision to end the 20-year war in afghanistan. in his first public speech since the last u.s. troops left kabul

the president yesterday said he refused to prolong a forever war and credited his administration's evacuation efforts as an extraordinary success. >> my fellow americans, the war in afghanistan is now over. i'm the fourth president who has faced the issue of whether and when to end this war. when i was running for president i made a commitment to the american people that i would end this war and today i have honored that commitment. it was time to be honest with the american people again. we no longer had a clear purpose in an open-ended mission in afghanistan. after 20 years of war in afghanistan i refuse to send another generation of america's sons and daughters to fight a war that should have ended long ago. to knows asking for a third

decade of war in afghanistan i ask, what is the vital national interest? in my view we only have one, to make sure afghanistan can never be used again to launch an attack on our homeland. remember why we went to afghanistan in the first place? because we were attacked by osama bin laden and al qaeda on september 11th, 2001. and they were based in afghanistan. we delivered justice to bin laden on may 2nd, 2011, over a decade ago. al qaeda was decimated. this decision about afghanistan is not just about afghanistan, it's about ending an era of major military operations to remake other countries.

we saw a mission of counterterrorism in afghanistan, getting the terrorists and stopping attacks, morph into a counterinsurgency, nation building, trying to create a democratic cohesive and united afghanistan, something that has never been done over many centuries of afghan's history. we've been a nation too long at war. if you're 20 years old today you have never known an america at peace. so when i hear that we could have, should have continued the so-called low-grade effort in afghanistan at low risk to our service members, at low cost, i don't think enough people understand how much we have asked of the 1% of this country who put that uniform on, willing to put their lives on the line in defense of our nation. there is nothing low grade or

low risk or low cost about any war. it's time to end the war in afghanistan. i give you my word with all of my heart, i believe this is the right decision, a wise decision and the best decision for america. >> that's the president of the united states. meanwhile, new polling shows a majority of americans support the afghanistan withdrawal, but most are critical of the biden administration's execution of it. in the latest pew research center poll 54% said ending the u.s. mission was the right decision, while 42% said it was the wrong one. overall 42% said biden has done a poor job handling the evacuation in afghanistan. 33% of democrats said the white house did an excellent or good job. joining us now white house reporter for the associated

press darlene superville. thank you for getting up early with us. president biden says, we heard him right there, that he is willing to take the heat for the ending of the u.s. mission in afghanistan, but do you think -- and what do you hear about what the white house thinks insofar as how he is surprised and the white house is surprised with how much backlash they actually faced over this? >> well, i don't think the white house is terribly surprised at the backlash, right, because with the major decision like this you're never going to get 100% of congress or even the american public behind what you're doing, although the polling does show that most americans support getting out of the war and pulling the united states out of afghanistan. how this will play out for the president, there is this short-term that we're seeing right now where he's under a lot of intense criticism and pressure over the decision, mostly from republicans, but there are also some democrats

who aren't happy with the way he has handled it. so he's taking a hit right now and we've heard him say on a number of occasions that the buck stops with him, he made the right decision, he said that again and again over the past couple of weeks. more longer term i think you will also see this issue continue to play out, particularly in the midterm elections that are coming up. you've already seen a number of republicans questioning -- using the pull out to question the president's leadership, to call for new leadership. some republicans have even gone as far as to call for him to resign. so this issue will be with us through the midterms and possibly even through the 2024 presidential election. >> you mentioned it, i didn't even want to go there, but all the way to 2024. obviously this is going to be an issue in the midterm elections which effectively are starting right now, but looking ahead to 2024, you don't think this is something that's going to fade from the minds of voters by

then? >> i would say that it remains to be seen. there are a lot of other issues between now and 2024, there is a lot of time, it's years, a lifetime in politics as the saying goes. so there are a number of issues, some that we may not be able to see right now that will come into play for the 2024 election, but there's still a lot of questions facing the white house over afghanistan and how the pull out was handled, the resettlement of refugees, congress is going to have hearings, those can continue for some time. so the issue will continue to be there for the white house bubbling in the background, but other issues may come into play. we still have the pandemic that's a major issue and the economy is always a major issue with any presidential election. >> darlene superville of the associated press, i really appreciate you waking up early with us. coming up still ahead here on "way too early," california's

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hey, guys, welcome back to "way too early" or way too late as we call it out here in california where governor gavin newsom is facing a tight recall election that could have national implications. both the president and the vice president are throwing their support behind the governor. i spoke with california voters and sat down with governor newsom to discuss all of it. a pizza delivery from embattled california governor gavin newsom looking to fuel the fight for his political survival at this

campaign stop. >> what we're seeing here is a power grab, to circumvent the will of the people. >> in a state where covid, wildfires, homelessness and crime are in the headlines, process itself is what newsom wants on the ballot. >> do you really think that this is about a republican recall and only that, that there aren't unhappy people in california, unhappy with governor gavin newsom? >> everybody is upset with everybody in the last 18 months, it's been a terrible 18 months for everybody across the spectrum. let's talk about who is behind this. it is a republican recall, it's backed by the rnc, backed by gingrich and huckabee and noon yez. fundamentally, yes, this is a republican recall. >> the ability for californians to recall the governor is one shared by voters in only 19 states, republican opponents of the governor successfully collected 1,719,900 signatures after a judge extended the deadline during covid. every voter in california will

get a mail in ballot and two questions, does gavin newsom be recalled and who should replace him? blaming republicans may only get newsom so far. i north i checked back with bernadette who was commuting six hours a day to and from the hospital in san francisco where she worked, living closer was too expensive. because of rising crime she sent her son to live with his dad outside the city. >> person shot. >> half a mile away. >> person shot six tenths of a mile away, that's all going on around here. >> yeah. >> and you're having a tough time now. >> uh-huh. >> have you thought about whether or not you want governor newsom to be recalled from office? >> i can't put the blame on him. i think that he should keep his job, this will be something to definitely keep him on his toes, little areas that need more attention. >> like? >> homeless, covid. >> in long beach i first met

kamala in june and learned about respiratory problems she has from growing up next to the freeway, she graduated from college a year ago and despite having two jobs can't afford to move out of her parents' house. >> do you get the sense that the governor understands how hard life is for you and people like you? >> no. it's really upsetting. i don't mean to get emotional, but he has no idea. he has no clue, you know. >> the race itself could hinge on struggling voters like camilla who share that sentiment. >> it sounds like you're going to vote to recall the governor. >> i am. i am. i actually was independent up until last week. i just switched to republican. like what 23-year-old latina is going to reregister as a republican and here i am. >> newsom has focused his attacks on the recall itself and his leading challenger, republican larry elder, but voters like bernadette and camilla are looking for

leadership that understands what matters to them. >> inequality is worse in this state, in your state, than anywhere else in the united states of america. do you blame people for wanting a change of leadership? >> well, i just got here two and a half years ago. >> but democrats have been in power here for over ten years. >> and for over two decades we have led the nation in terms of some of those challenges. yeah, we are the richest and poorest state and i recognize that and also recognize the responsibility to do something about it. >> election day out here in california is less than two weeks away. californians are already voting. we have much more on the california recall coming up on "morning joe." we are keeping a close eye on the aftermath of hurricane ida. i want to go to meteorologist bill karins. we were talking about how this was going to make its way to the northeast, sounds like that's what's happening. >> today will be very ugly in the northeast. first let's update everyone on what's been happening in southeast louisiana. 24 hours ago there was a little over a million people without power, this morning i just checked and there's 980,000,

only like 50,000 people got their power back on. the areas that were really crushed where all the worse of the infrastructure problems are it's going to take a while, it's not flipping a switch, it's not just rehanging a wire or two. when you hear the people from grand isle say it's uninhabitable, don't come back, they're telling people that evacuated, you know, it's going to be a while before you can even drive down the roads and try to get into some of those areas. you can see how extensive the damage was when this major category 4 hurricane and it was painful to watch on radar and to track it, it sats there over southeast louisiana as major hurricane for six to seven hours. those communities are really going to struggle. people now all of their food is bad in their fridges, some people still don't have water, so it's gotten pretty ugly. it's going to stay that way. it's hot, too. yesterday was a heat indices, the feel like temperature in the shade was over 100, today it will feel like 102 degrees in

new orleans, we have heat advisories up for the area. just kind of, you know, insult to injury on top of everything else they're dealing with that it's this hot. now let's get into what's going to be a very difficult probably a breaking news situation day in the northeast for flooding and tornadoes. what's left of ida all that heavy rain is now over the top of pennsylvania, we had some tornado watches around washington, d.c. last night, now we're watching 63 million people in these flash flood watches from albany to boston, southward down to d.c., harrisonburg and roanoke. this is rare, high risk categories of flash flooding are typically pretty small. this one covers hartford, new york city to harrisburg to philadelphia. this is a pretty rare event that we're going to see, jacob, later on tonight, you know, widespread three to five inches, responsibility up to eight inches of rain. these are the areas that only eight, nine days ago got about four to six inches from henri. we're going to have some serious

issues. tomorrow morning when we come on air at this time i will probably be talking about who was hit by tornadoes and what areas are seeing extreme flash flooding, lives easily could be lost in this event in the northeast tonight. >> unbelievable. everybody stay safe in the northeast, thinking about all those folks down south that still don't have their power. thanks very much. still ahead here on "way too early," a covid outbreak rattles the red sox and a debate over bathroom breaks at the u.s. open. sports coming up next. aks at th open sports coming nupext. age is just a number. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. as your business changes, the united states postal service is changing with it.

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baez turns the boos at city field into cheers, sprinting from first base to score that game ending run in new york, 6-5 win over the miami marlins. to here in los angeles the one and only the beautiful chavez ravine, the braves second baseman needed to be carried off the field after fouling a pitch off his left knee against the dodgers. fortunately x-rays on the knee came back negative. he will be day to day going forward. l.a. rallies for a late 3-2 victory up at the ballpark. and with the giants loss to the brewers the dodgers moved half a game behind san francisco in the race for the top spot in the ml west. meanwhile n anaheim angels shohei ohtani showcased a new skill hosting the yankees last night. >> a swing and a miss, a delayed double steal attempt. throw to the plate is not in time.

>> ohtani shows he can run, too, stealing home as the angels send the yanks to a fourth straight loss. yankee ace gar rick cole had to to say about witching to ohtani in the start against the angels today. >> what kind of pitch will you not pitch to shohei ohtani tomorrow? >> he does not need any more advantage, margaret, okay? i won't throw him a knuckleball. there you go. >> the red sox race for an american league wild card spot is being complicated by a coronavirus outbreak. star shortstop xander bogaerts is the sixth boston player to test positive since friday. bogaerts announced were announced after he was pulled from the field during last night's loss against the rays. it leaves big holes in the red sox infield and bullpen as they cling to a one-game lead over the a's for the second al wild card spot and now i want to talk a little bit about tennis and u.s. open where novak djokovic,

though not perfect was victorious in the first round of his bid to complete the first calendar year grand slam in men's tennis since 1969 and collect a record breaking 21st major singles championship after dropping the second set of last night's match. he needed four to defeat his 14-year-old opponent from denmark and advance to the second round, but it was potty talk that was swirling around flushing meadows yesterday, excuse the pun, in a debate over the toilet break rule in tennis after play was played for more than eight minutes while stefanos tsitsipas changed clothes between the fourth and fifth sets of a nearly five-hour victory over andy murray on monday as we talked about yesterday. the grand slam rule book allows men two trips for a reasonable amount of time, but the 34-year-old murray who explained the lengthy pause in play caused him issues physically was seeking a harsher penalty than the warning tsitsipas got for a

time violation. on the court murray used the word "cheating" and at his news conference said he lost respect for the 23-year-old french open runner up. murray continued to lash out yesterday tweeting, quote, fact of the day, it takes stefano tsitsipas twice as long to go to the bathroom as it takes jeff bezos to fly into space. interesting. >> interesting, indeed. still ahead, a conversation about the debate over critical race theory. we're going to get an inside look at the fight over school diversity in a wealthy texas suburb. you are not going to want to miss this. before we go to break we want to know as always what are you doing awake? email your reasons to way too early at msnbc.com. tweet me at jacob soboroff using the #way too early. b soboroff ug the #way too early new dove men, plant based body wash is different. with plant based cleansers.

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a divisive year. they live in south lake, texas, one of the first suburbs caught in a national fight over diversity and history. after video surfaced of students using the "n" word conservative voters delivered a landslide victory this spring to school board and city candidates opposed to a diversity plan. >> as a minority family in south lake do you think that the schools are a safe environment? >> i think that it is a safe environment. we feel safe here, but i would say that i am preparing my child to deal with these issues when they creep up because we are not -- we are not immune from it. >> reporter: from virginia to missouri, communities have been fighting over alleged teaching of critical race theory. >> and just because i do not want critical race theory taught to my children in school does not mean that i am a racist. >> reporter: it's a decades old academic study of the legacy of racism and inequality in society. there is no evidence it's been taught in public schools, but dozens of state leaders have tried to ban it anyway and

conservatives have turned the phrase into a catch all for any lessons that might make white students feel guilty. dr. led better the superintendent of south lake's schools gave us a first time interview, a lawsuit and restraining order block him from working on any diversity and inclusion plan for the kids. >> is there racism in south lake and in carolesty? >> so let me think about that question, i'm going to stop there. i think it goes back to people understanding each other almost from an empathy standpoint and just being able to understand varying perspectives and differences. >> at some point are you going to be forced as a leader to pick a side? to pick a yes or no? >> i don't know that i necessarily have to have a yes or no to that question. for me i am focused on my priority -- my property is the students. >> bye. have a great first day.

>> reporter: at times they have wondered if it was a mistake to raise their daughter here. >> trust is important in every aspect of life and it just feels like in south lake neighbors have lost trust of each other. >> reporter: for now the family will continue to educate their daughter on american history and diversity at home. >> joining us now nbc news correspondent antonia hylton. first of all, thank you for waking up so early to talk to me about this. i'm excited about this podcast and grateful that you are here. tell us about the podcast. by the way, everyone, listen to it right now on apple, it's the number one podcast on all of apple. it's called southlake. how did it all get started with you and our colleague. >> thanks for having me on, jacob. so right after george floyd's murder mike hickson because and i started to see a change in some communities around the u.s. where there was a backlash, communities had maybe tried to implement diversity and inclusion plans or talk about race in a different way this

schools and then parents were responding in some communities negatively to this. when we first found out about southlake we got to work on this at the beginning of this year. it to us was a story about changing relationships in suburbs and it quickly became much larger than that we we realize that had southlake was one of the first communities to enter this culture war over critical race theory, how we talk about racism and systemic racism in history. they got their fight started in 2018. students in the district chanting the "n" word, parents tried to -- parents tried to implement a diversity and inclusion plan and it comes out in the months after george floyd's murder and leads to this backlash, hundreds of thousands of dollars raised, a lawsuit that leads to the restraining order that you heard mentioned in the piece and it's put the district in this challenging position where the new school year is starting, kids are coming back into the classroom but their parents have been fighting with themselves at

school board meetings and the kids feel like they are caught at the center of this. this podcast explores these cultural divides deeply, we speak to families of color who have lived in this community and have often tried to tell a different stooer about what it's like growing up black or south-asian in majority white suburbs in the u.s. and it's a really an american story that people living in communities outside of texas are going to be able to relate to because it deals with everything from the dynamics of race through multiple elections in the united states, to just the experience of being bullied for your race or your gender or sexuality in schools. so we think that parents and kids and educators really everyone is going to find something in this story, this six-part story, southlake that they're going to be able to relate to or take something from. >> it is an american story which is why i think it's doing so well on the podcasting charts. watching you in that piece it's

obvious there's racism everywhere. when you pose this question to the superintendent there racism in southlake and he pauses, almost looks to the side and says i have to think about that, pair traysing here, for a second. i'm curious what your reaction as a journalist was. >> i was pretty surprised because it's a straightforward question, like you said, but i think what the answer tells you is just how toxic all of this has become for people who are in positions of leadership and who have to answer to parents who are, you know -- it has gotten so nasty, i mean, at school board meetings people have called cops on each other, there have been physical altercations. this is a story that is also about neighbors turning on neighbors. and this man is the superintendent of their very well-known school district in texas and he has been caught in the center of this and somehow he is expected by his community to bring leadership and unity and inspire unity within the schools that sets a better tone for the town but with a restraining order in place and a pretty sort of toxic state of the discourse, he's in a really tough position. so what i took away from that

was that he felt like no matter what he said he would likely lose. that's the position he's in this year of trying to do his best to bring a community together and to keep kids feeling like they're safe at school, but feeling like when he talks to parents or attends school board meetings that he's walking into, you know a land mine. >> the new podcast is called southlake, antony grateful for you being here. an important development i wanted to bring you from overnight involving the supreme court. early in morning the court did not take action on a request to block a texas law prohibiting most abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy. that allowed the most pre strike testify abortion law in the nation to go into effect. as nbc news reports some texas abortion clinics were already turning patients away even before the state's new law went into effect at midnight this morning. still ahead, while one band

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it's flattering, it could be worse, people, i guess. the rock tweeted out a side-by-side photo of the two of them, that is the real rock on the left writing, wow, guy on the left is way cooler. stay safe, brother, and thank you for your service. now to "jeopardy," mike richards is leaving his position as executive producer of "jeopardy" and "wheel of fortune." it comes three weeks after he was tapped to replace alex trebek as host of "jeopardy" but he stepped down on his past comments about women, jewish people and poor people. top jewett tiffs at sony kept richards on as the ep but yesterday announced his immediate exit in a memo to staff. it reads we had hoped when mike stepped down from the host position at "jeopardy" it would minimize the disruption and internal disruptions we have experienced the last few weeks. that clearly has not happened. richards will be temporarily replaced by michael davies producer of who wants to be a millionaire. the rock band kiss is postponing four tour dates after

gene simmons and paul stanley tested positive for covid-19. according to a statement posted by the band stanley has recovered and simmons is experiencing, quote, mild symptoms. they will isolate for the next ten days forcing them to postpone four shows on their north american tour. it's september to resume on september 9th. get well soon. another big music event is canceled, not because of the pandemic. organizer of the bonnaroo have canceled that because of intense rainfall from hurricane ida and the flooding of the event space. the statement from the festival's organizers reads in part, quote, we are absolutely heartbroken to announce we must cancel bonnaroo. while this weekend's weather looks outstanding currently we are water logged in many areas, we have done everything in our power to keep the show moving forward but mother nature has dealt up a tremendous amount of rain over the past 24 hours and we have run out of options.

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since march we reached out 19 times to americans in afghanistan with multiple warnings and offers to help them leave afghanistan, all the way back as far as march. the bottom line, 90% of americans in afghanistan who wanted to leave were able to leave, and for those remaining americans, there is no deadline. we remain committed to get them out if they want to come out. >> president biden pushing back against criticism that he fell short of his pledge to get all

americans out of afghanistan before the august 31st deadline. joining us now staff writer at the "los angeles times" brittany mejia. first of all, thank you for waking up so early out here on the west coast with me, really appreciate it. i wanted to have you on because you recently wrote this piece, an amazing piece, on afghanistan refugees resettling here in california. it's the number one state for afghans resettled in the u.s. take us through that u.s. resettlement process that you've now seen firsthand once they arrive, what evacuees are saying about the process to get out of afghanistan. >> yeah, thanks so much for having me first. yeah, so the process honestly i spent this last week reporting in san diego trying to understand what happens once refugees actually arrive in california and what i was finding is that some families are waiting weeks for housing. they're paying out-of-pocket thousands of dollars. you had cases of people who have run out of money and have flown

to sacramento because they have family there. like their family flew them there and is housing them while they wait to be resettled. there are families who are going to apartments with no furniture inside of it. i think the resettlement agencies right now are so backlogged they're dealing with so much so now you have volunteers coming in and just setting up entire apartments, furnishing them and helping the refugees however they can. >> the family that you wrote about, the sadat family, a father and his three daughters, i think they're 11, 9 years old and 6 years old just have an extraordinary journey ahead of them, a mountain to climb in terms of getting resettled, but they're already here. we saw in some of these photos by your colleague that you did the story with what life looks like, but what does their story say about the tens of thousands of people who are on the precipice of making a similar journey here and a new life in

the united states? >> i think really what their story says is that this is going to be such a journey, like it doesn't just end because we brought refugees here to the u.s., it really is about helping them settle in. i think the big concern now is for them getting a job, being able settle in. the big concern for them now is getting a job, being able to pay the rent on the apartment. there's a misunderstanding of the support they're going to get, and i feel like, yes, they have to start all over in a new country. they're obviously relieved to be here but it's really about providing them the stability and support that they need. >> and it's part of the reason britney, that i think so many of these refugee resettlement agencies are seeing an outpouring of support. let's talk about the organizations helping them and other folks like them here in california. >> one of the main one, actually, the one that i followed is grass roots volunteers in california, helping el cajon refugees, and they're gate. i mean, they have a facebook page. they set up and they ask for

donations, furniture, different items, money donations and they go buy furniture. these are volunteers that are stacking up closets in their own homes, filling it with supplies for refugees, just to help out in some small way. that was what was most striking to me and kind of made me optimistic, you know, in our response to, like, helping refugees right now. i'm seeing a lot of volunteers stepping up and wanting to help however they can. >> thank you, again, for waking up so early. i hope you get back to sleep. good to see you. we asked why are you awake, what are you doing up right now. one viewer is up way too early because check this out, very cute, my rescue company bik wants to play chase me. i have your sweater again. here's one from another viewer who tweeted this, i'm up because

i'm on vacation in ireland. i'll have a guinness for you early birds. and jillian e-mails, it's the only quiet time i get to work decorating baby helmets. shout out to helmet babies. love way too early. and sophie is up because sophie cannot believe how i am awake. jacob must have a coffee filled iv. i swear to god, i only had one cup of coffee before i came out here. tomorrow, i might have two. coming up, a look at the axios one big thing, and on "morning joe," new details about the evacuation from afghanistan, and we're going to hear from the chief medical officer leading a fema deployment to louisiana after the after math of hurricane ida. so much coming up on msnbc. "morning joe" moments away. stick with us.

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get to "morning joe," joining us with a look at axios a.m., the cofounder of axios, mike allen. what's the one big thing. >> good morning to jacob, in my native land. the axios one big next thing is the gop's new foil, the taliban. house republicans are going to try to make unease over the pull out from afghanistan, a defining issue in taking power back in the house for 2022, and we're going to see a preview of it today. it's a mark up of a defense bill, and this is going to be the tip of the sphere of this new house republican strategy. they're going to say that they want to withhold any possible future aid to the taliban. they're going to demand an accounting for those weapons the taliban has gotten. what mineral rights and wealth have they gotten. what other funds have they gotten, and all of this is an

effort to over years, both in the 2022 and the 2024 elections, to make afghanistan a key issue against democrats, both on the hill and president biden. the irony of this, of course, the administration will tell you that this pull out was based on a president trump deal. he was a republican last time i checked and jacob, what the administration is saying about this is, and you saw it in remarks that we saw live here on msnbc from secretary of state, tony blinken, they're saying any future dealings with the taliban will be based purely on u.s. interest, any recognition, any aid will have to be earned. >> mike, also on afghanistan, i know that axios has an exclusive on an effort by the former secretary of state condoleezza rice, also former national security adviser hr mcmaster to

rescue orphans. can you tell us about that? >> axios got our hands on a letter they are sending to officials in the administration and the u.n., including first lady jill biden, the secretary of defense, and secretary of state, and they're saying getting orphans out of afghanistan isn't just a humanitarian issue, it is a national security issue because based on their long experience, secretary rice, hr mcmaster are saying that we have seen the taliban over many decades turn young people into opponents of the united states and they're saying get them out before both men can become fighters against the west and before the terrible things can happen to young girls that have happened under the taliban. >> and i know there is an effort underway to resettle some unaccompanied children that have

made it here. you say the president's speech was notable to looking toward the future. what do you think was most significant about the message we heard from the white house? >> in addition to the president's point that he was not going to turn a forever war into a forever withdrawal, the take away that i had from his speech was looking at future threats. so he was saying continuing to pour resources into afghanistan is looking at the threats of 20 years ago rather than the threats of the future. he's saying we should be paying attention to russia, to cyber attacks, to terrorist threats elsewhere, including from somalia, including from the arabian peninsula and saying we need to take a much broader look at what threatens the united states than purely the threats in afghanistan. >> the cofounder of axios, mike allen. thanks for getting up a little early with us, and thanks to you all at home as well for getting up way too early today on this

wednesday morning. i'll be back tomorrow, and see you again a little bit later on on "morning joe." that starts right now. after 20,744 american servicemen and women injured and the loss of 2,461 american personnel, including 13 lives lost just this week, i refuse to open another decade of warfare in afghanistan. we have been a nation too long at war. >> one day after the last united states troops left kabul, president biden defending his decision to end america's longest war and pushing back against the notion his administration did not do everything it could to get every united states citizen out of the country despite the fact many of them still are in the country. plus, hundreds of thousands of people in louisiana still without electricity or running water in the after math of hurricane ida as