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elijah mcclain related prosecutions which is a big deal from my former state of colorado. i know you talked about that on your show. it's a pretty big news day. texas, come on. handmaids tale, what's happening? >> we'll be watching. thank you. . we begin with a heartbreaking story about a 13-year-old girl, a child, this young girl living in texas faced the ultimate nightmare. she was raped by her own grandfather. that was vunt the end of the horror. when she was told by her doctor that she was pregnant, she also learned that the nearest clinic that would perform an abortion was across the state. clearly someone would have to drive her. she would have to find the money from someone to get an abortion procedure and and, and. the procedure this pre-teen girl
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was desperately seeking would have been illegal if this case happened in texas today. a woman found out she was eight weeks pregnant. she fried to find an appointment with the goal of getting an abortion. she thought about the possibility of going out of state but couldn't afford it. the cost of an instate abortion was multiple paychecks. she did get an appointment just hours before midnight last night. when the new draconian abortion law went into effect in texas after our fever dream of a supreme court declined to take action. the law bans abortions after six weeks before most people even though they are pregnant. there are zero exceptions for rape or incest. take that in for a moment. those victims have no way out. think about that. think about that 13-year-old girl raped by her grandfather or
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if if one finds herself in an abusive relationship or unable to financially care for a child. texas says, too bad. forced birth is now the law of the land. there's no exception even if a pregnancy is unviable. unless it's a medical emergency for the mother. women will be forced to carry stillborn pregnancies to term. think about that for heartbreak for a moment. the worst part of this new texas law is it dispatches private citizens to act as what basically amount to abortion bounty hunters. allowing them to sue for $10,000 a piece for evidence abortion that the defendant in lawsuits they filed performed or induced or aided or abetted. imagine suing the uber driver who drove a woman to an abortion clinic and ka-ching collecting $10,000. texas rights has put up a website called for anonymous tips on abortion providers.
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you cannot man date life saving masks to prevent the spread of covid. you have the freedom to bring your guns into stores and restaurants and churches and even psychiatrist hospitals but women, trans and nonbinary women are not allowed to make their own choices. my body, my choice, not in texas. texas clinics are turning away patients. there's going be a 20 fold increase in driving distance for texans to reach a state that is legal. something that might be impossible for parts of texas closest to louisiana which is recovering from hurricane ida. it seems like slim hope to hang onto. abortion providers are waiting on the supreme court to rule on their emergency application urging the justices to intervene. their inaction allowing this law to go into effect and whose on
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the conservative side on the court, those are terrifying of the future of roe v wade. the supreme court will hear a case from mississippi that argues the case for overruling row, just overruling it is overwhelming. by next summer, we could be living in our own version of the handmaids tale where force birth is the law in large sections of the law, including for children. 11 states have trigger laws that are lying in wats for roe v wade to be over turned. more would likely follow with 97 abortion restrictions enacted in 19 states so far this year. joining me now, senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts. senator warren, people think it's hyperboliy when i tweet about the handmaid's tale coming
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to america. do you? >> i live ed in an america in which abortion was illegal when i was young before roe versus wade. when abortion is illegal, rich women still get abortions. women with resources still get abortions. women who have time and who have friends in other places will still get abortions. what this law is really about is not stopping abortions across the board. this is about bearing down on the most vulnerable among us. it's bearing down on the woman or trans person or nonbinary who is working three jobs. the one whose already stretched to the limit. the one who is a child, who has just found out that she is pregnant and doesn't know how to get organized to get herself the
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kind of medical treatment that she needs. this law says, it's clearly trying to push in the direction. they will do everything they can if you are vulnerable, if you don't have all terntives to make sure that you are forced into carrying a pregnancy that you do not want to carry. i just think this is fundamentally wrong. this divides people. this enables people to target abortion providers, people who give advice, people who try to help. everything to say we're going to isolate and make life as hard as possible for those who don't have resources. for those who have resources, just go to massachusetts or go to new york or go do california. go somewhere else. that's going to be the kind of division we're going to see in this country. >> two things, one, michelle goldberg was saying earlier and
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she made a good point that the republican party has embrad vigilanteism as a theme. if you don't like abortion, sent them to collect 10,000 dollar bounties on women's head. poorer women will get abortion toos. they will just drink poisonous stuff to get them. they la hurt themselves to get them. i was reading today about a woman a nurse in other countries where woman are coming with internal injuries from trying to give themselves abortions. people are still going to get them, they will just die trying to get them. >> that's the part that these folks don't want to look at. they have constructed this alternative universe where somehow if we just force people to go through with these pregnancies, it will work out just fine for them. it's not going to work out just
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fine. as you rightly say, when people are desperate enough, they will do desperate things. that is especially true in the circumstances of abortion. you are exactly right. how i should have described it is they will not get the medical care, the treatment that they should be entitled to as human beings. >> you talk a lot about the economy for regular folks. those of us who grew up as regular folks and know what it's like to have the lights out because you couldn't pay the bill, people that have never lived that don't understand what that's like. making breakfast for dinner because it's more affordable. people grew up of you not being well off. the other thing that galls me about what republicans are doing in texas is they don't care about that 13-year-old girl who will be forced to raise that kid. they will not provide her health care. they don't want to provide her an education. they don't want to help her pay for college. they don't want that kid to get
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health care. they don't want to pass the medicaid expansion. they are leaving all of these people behind that they want born but they don't care about them when they are born. >> that's exactly right. this is not about providing -- look at fight we're having right now in congress. universal child care. child care so that mamas and daddies can go do work. women have been forced out of the work force. one out of four women said the problem is child care. here we are, one of the things democrats is fighting for is universal child care. do the you know how many republicans we have that are willing to help us is zero. >> i'm guessing zero. >> that's right. nice round number there. child care is not something that they support and want to work on. housing. how many people do we have in this country. they have it in adequate homes,
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sub standards homes. how many mamas can little babies don't have housing. what we want to do is put some investment and we want to get people off the street, good for their health, the economy. we want these people to have housing. how much republican help are we getting on this? zero. we could just keep going through. that's a part of what's wrong here. it's part of the division. it's part of the prey on those who are vulnerable. you were talking about earlier about the idea, this vigilanteism that not only says you get a $10,000 bounty, it also insulates from liability those who target someone and turns out to be wrong. turns out they were not in violation. think what that means. that means shoot in any direction you want. if it lands you get money, and if it doesn't land, you don't get hurt. that's wrong. by the way, this is why congress should step up.
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let's remember that 70% of americans want to see roe versus wade as the law of the land. the supreme court is not the only one who could provide that. congress could pass roe versus wade. >> come on. >> everybody out there who is outraged today, help planned parenthood. help those who are trying to help people who are dealing with a difficult decision. also, push your senators, push your representatives and say it is time that our elected representatives don't just put in judges who are extremists. who don't support what most americans want. you get out there. pass the laws, protect roe. make it the law of the land everywhere. >> amen. senator elizabeth warren. thank you. you can get an amen for every single word for that.
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>> there is sort of the sum of all fears. talk about what this will mean for women in texas. >> well, so far it's been pretty dramatic here. you have a lot of really desperate women that we have seen and have been beyond the limits. this has been going on now for a few days. the phone calls have been heart wrenching and we were trying to accommodate as many women as possible before today. we were disappointed to not get a ruling from the issue ream court. we woke up to that and had to face another day and face women who are desperate and need our help and we're not able to help them. as elizabeth articulated and you as well, it's the women of means who will have access who can travel and the women without means will have access to unsafe
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medical care. it's hard to believe it's 2021 and we're facing this now. the war on women just continues and in texas, they're screaming about my body, my choice and you can't make me wear mask and you can't make my children wear mask to school, obviously, don't honor my body, my choice when it comes to women. >> those of us who have been screaming for a very long time that the supreme court was coming for roe and they don't care. they were coming for it for a long time. too many women didn't make this a voting issue. we find ourselves in the nightmare scenario. i don't trust the supreme court. i don't know if you do. what is the action plan for women going forward. you know once texas does it, florida will follow.
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mississippi will follow. every republican who thinks this is a good issue to run in 2024 will get their men. what's the action plan? >> the action plan is we need to be out in the streets. understanding that that elections have consequences and we do have to take over these horrific state legislatures that are passing these laws that are inconsistent with where the majority of people in each state. it's not just the national average that support whether or not, 80% of americans believe we should have access to safe and legal abortion. we're talking about 26 states that are poised to quickly adopt very similar bans to basically create a defacto into roe. it's at the ballot box in a lot of ways. these are the same states as we talked about before that are trying to restrict voting rights. it's all -- >> i wonder why. >> right.
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exactly. i just want to speak a bit to the provider piece which is that what my colleague is talking about it's on top of the other things that have been happening. the mandatory 24 hour waiting period, forced ultrasounds. this kind of chipping away has been happening for so long and i think this is finally the time where people really understand that what we have been screening about has become a reality. >> women have only been able to legally refuse sex with their husbands. marital rape laws were passed in the '90s. in the '70s, women couldn't open a bank account without a man. 54% of americans say abortion should always be on mostly be legal. 42% said always or mostly be illegal. the number of illegal abortions in 1950s and 1960s range from
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200,000 to 1.2 million a year. by 1965, the legal abortion still accounted for 17% of deaths. deaths attributed to pregnancy and child birth. i'm going to give you the last word on this. what can we, outside of texas do, for you? what we can do to help you? >> i think we -- we have to take action in every state. there will be test grounds in texas and other states will follow. every one needs to pay close attention even if you're in state like california and new york and you have progressive liberal laws. we salute you and we're very jealous here in texas. remember, the threat is very real no matter where you are. >> these people want to take -- they want to take up the whole. they don't want just texas.
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these autocratic men want control of the whole country. they're not going to be satisfied until the whole country is gilead. wake up. thank you. good luck. up next, the looming crisis, millions of americans are set to lose -- it just gets worse. millions of americans are set to lose their federal unemployment benefits as we head into labor day weekend and as evictions ramp up across this country. prosecutors in california announce charges against police and paramedics in the death of elijah mcclain, a young black man whose life was snuffed out as he was going about his business. his dad will join me. as the january 6th committee gets ready to expose them, their actions made clear they've got something to hide. reid out continues after this. reid out continues after this. when you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. new zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer
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this labor day weekend marks the end of summer and the beginning of paralyzing uncertainty for many americans. millions of people are poised the lose unemployment benefits on monday when federal pandemic policies expire after being extended twice. this comes a week after supreme court conservative majority struck down the biden administration stopgap moratorium leaving three and a half million renters on the precipice of eviction. unfortunately, the treasury department reports only $3 billion of the money has been distributed. it's a one two punch for people in desperate need of help. case, hospitalizations and deaths have risen to highest levels since winter. as for additional unemployment benefit, lawmakers are unlikely to offer help because of
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improvements in the economy and labor market. chairman, let's get right to it. we are emerging right now as two countries. one in which blue states are trying to extend the eviction moratorium. new york's legislature just passed, they will freeze evictions in rare special cases. i don't know what rare special cases are because new york rent is high. if you're in a red state, you not only have no protection from covid, your schools are getting sued so they can't have mask man
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date. you might be out on the street and they didn't expand medicaid. what can be done about this at the federal level? what is going to be done? >> the supreme court as they have done with reproductive freedoms issued an irresponsible decision or taken an irresponsible action. this is consistent with the republican play book. they have concluded they can no longer win elections democratically. they engage in voter suppression. they steal supreme court seats and legislate from the bench. longer term implications that we'll have to deal with in term of this republican strategic approach and we'll have to deal with that aggressively. in terms of the moment we find ourselves in related to the eviction moratorium, speaker pelosi indicated and we have
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caucus call and gathering early next week that we're going to discuss what legislative options may be available to us. working with chair financial services committee maxine waters who spearheaded the relief we provided in the american rescue plan. we got to make sure that states are held accountable for getting out the money. the numbers that you sited are atrocious. >> a group of people met with the speaker last week. let me play you a bit of what she said afterwards. >> we want you to use the power the people gave you and we're assuring her we want you to hold
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the line on this infrastructure. we can't talk about physical infrastructure in this country and we allow the democratic, the political infrastructure to collapse and because of that, we want you to hold the line. >> let me keep it real. i think that most base democrats understand and trust that the speaker is sincere. she said she does this for the children. that's why she's in this business of politics at all. i trust her and believer her when she says that. i don't trust people like senator manchin and sinema. i don't trust them. making sure these things are fixed, the voting rights act is fixed. i don't trust that believe that. when you go to your caucus, will you say to them what latosha drown said. use the leverage you have. they have the bipartisan infrastructure bill they love so much. that thing ain't going to become law if the house doesn't put it
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through. is the leadership in the house willing to say, back to the senate, we'll give you your infrastructure bill, when we get for the people act. when we get reform of policing, when we get a $15 an hour minimum wage and a fix to the rent moratorium. y are y'all willing to do that? >> we said we're committed to parallel track approach. it's insufficient in terms of turning things around and building back better which is why we need to move the $3.5 trillion build back better act. >> will you -- i'm sorry to push you but we're short time. i need know, yes or no, are you
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all willing to say, we want all of it. the $15 hour minimum wage. we want to fix the moratorium on rent. we want to fix all these issues that your base voted for and you give us all of that and then you can get your $1 trillion infrastructure bill. >> i don't want to speak for the entirety of the caucus but i think it's pretty clear, these are all things that house democrats have already moved in one form or the other and we stand behind our legislation aggressively and continue to fight for working family, middle class folks and certainly the poor, the sick, the o flikted, the left behind. we believe this -- it's not just the senate's voice that should matter here. the house will speak for the people. >> i think people agree with that. if y'all hold the line, latosha
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today a colorado grand jury issued a 32-count indictment against three aurora police officers and two paramedics involved in the 2019 death of elijah mcclain. the charges include manslaughter, critically negligent homicide. this comes nearly three years to the day as he walked home after a 911 caller reported he looked suspicious. the officers grabbed him and put him in a choke hold. paramedics injected him with a powerful sedative. he was declared brain dead after a nearby hospital and taken offer life support less than a week later. this is first time they have faced any punishment. joining me now is la wayne pose
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-- mosely. i want to start by issuing my condolences to you and to your family. i grew up in california. i know the area where you live very well. it's so shocking to me to think what happened to your son, my kids are his age. i feel so deeply for you. i would love for you to just -- before we get into the who horrors of the case, tell us about elijah. >> people person. people lover. just energetic, spunky, sparky. loved life. >> yeah. i'm not going to read you the police association state but it was pretty disgusting. i'm going to be honest. it accused your son of violently
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resisting arrest. does that even read to you at all as something that your son, that even sounds real about your son. >> no. we could hear everything going on. he didn't do any of that. that's not his character and that's not his nature. we don't know how to use a gun or any of that stuff. >> did he have a fear of police? >> all blacks in colorado got a fear of police. >> yes, sir. you're right. growing up there, i can tell you that's accurate. in addition to the police union, it's what they always say. we know that there was actually an independent probe op what happened. i'm going to read there a bit. an independence investigate concludesed the police had no legal basis to stop or use force and responded paramedics sedated him without conducting anything more than a brief visual
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observation. ke have seen a lot of these cases. how hopeful are you that this indictment means there will be justice in this case? >> well, we're very hopeful that this indictment leads to convictions. even more importantly than that, this indictment serves as a message not just here in colorado but across the country that nobody is above the law. that officers can no longer act with impunity leading to racist and brutal treatment of people. we're very hopeful that this is part of the change that needs to happen. not just here in colorado but across the entire country. >> paul, we have done so many of these cases together. you heard mr. mosely say, thank god we can have evidence of what happens in the case. i apologize for reading this due to this pain this is causing you but we know that elijah's final words, we know what they are. he said i can't breathe.
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i have my id. that's my house. i was just going home. i'm an introvert. i'm just different. he apologized to them. e said i have no gun. i don't do any fighting. why are you attacking me? this is a shy kid. a young guy who is just scared and just asking to be left alone. does that evidence prevent the defense in the case from trying to do to elijah mcclain in death what they tried to do to george floyd? >> first, mr. moselely i'm so -- sorry for your loss. may his memory be a blessing. joy, defense attorneys will try everything and they won't get away with it, i hope. they don't have the quality of video tape in this case that we had in the derek chauvin trial because supposedly the video
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cameras dropped to the ground during the encounter with mr. mcclain. that's what the police claim. we know that every first responder on the scene failed mr. mcclain and they are criminally responsible for his death. >> i guess i have to ask you, are you surprised that there were paramedics involved in what happened to your son? i think that part of the case did shock me. did it shock you? >> no that they were all guilty. all of them. >> i mean, i guess miss new moon, one would think once help arooifd, they should help. they didn't help him. they hurt him.
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sdp you're right. the reason the paramedics came to the scene is because the officers had subjected elijah not to one but two choke holds. the medics came because they were supposed to be providing him with obviously necessary life saving medical care. instead what they did was exactly the opposite. they subjected him to additional force weaponizing a very dangerous medication which ultimately was among the causes of his death. >> paul, we're going to be following this case and you helped us so much in following the george floyd case. basic us through how this time line will look and should we expect this to go in the direction george floyd case did. that was surprising to me. normally these don't result in conviction for police officers. >> prosecutors have to prover
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the actions caused mr. mcclain's dets like with george floyd. the defense will blame everything and everybody but the police and paramedics. the police association already claiming mr. mcclain died of a pre-existing heart condition. we know the paramedics failed to follow basic medical property cals. he was in handcuffs. they didn't conduct a physical examination. they didn't ask him questions. after they shot him up with this powerful narcotic, they didn't bother do check his vital signs or properly monitor him. joy, again, they claim that the cameras fell op the ground so we don't have the video but we have that haunting audio where elijah mcclain, like george floyd before him narrates his own death on police audiotape. he says he can't breathe.
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they treated him the way first responders treat black people. like someone who has no rights. now after two years they finally face consequences. >> we'll be following there case. paul butler, we'll be calling on you a lot. thank you very much. we'll be pay preying for you and your family. thank you. you're in our thoughts. we appreciate you being here tonight. all right. tonight's absolute worst is still ahead. rjts how the religious right is messing with women's rights, voting rights and our rights as vaccinated americans to finally be done with this freaking pandemic. we'll be right back. pandemic we'll be right back. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement...
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the religious right is a powerful voting block in this
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country, shaping elections, legislation and supreme court nominees. what the religious right says about its most famous rallying cry, abortion, it often isn't true that the bible forbids abortion. that's a lie. that abortion is murder, it's dangerous. none of that is true. this movement is so full of misinformation that the very origin is a lie. back in the 1970s, evangelical christians were apolitical and they wanted to change that. dartmouth historian in his off sited piece wrote the hypothetical moral majority need add catalyst and a standard around which to rally. the galvanizing issue was not abortion. it was an organized fight to protect christian schools from racial integration. they blamed jimmy carter for
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removing tax breaks for schools that failed to integrate. defending school integration wasn't the back look. they searched for more palatable rallying cry which would become abortion. joining me is author of the book why i'm an atheist who believes in god. for people who don't know who paul is, let my play him quick. let's let him be heard. >> how many of our christians have the goo goo syndrome. good government. they want everybody to vote. i don't want everybody to vote. elections are not won by a majority of people. >> tell us about him. who is this guy? >> he's interesting you mention professor randall from
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dartmouth. i just interviewed him last week. we talked for over an hour about the part my family played in the 70s and 80s. we helped found the evangelical wing of the pro-life movement that's in the news now. who paul weyrich was a roman catholic activist who tried to involve evangelicals in building a right wink coalition based on racism. he wanted to cash in on the hatred ma many white evangelicals had for the u.s. government because it was questioning the tax exempt status of all white academies that were a reaction to integration. then they turned to the abortion issue as another piece of red meat which to enrange their
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followers. when we went out to pitch the quote, unquote pro-life movement which was fake family values thinly veiled my sole judge any, keep weem in their place move m preponderate it wasn't about abortion. they decided ta they can take that energy and bring new voters to the republican party. when we went out, the reverend billy graham and dr. chriswall who was president of the southern baptist con jengs, pastor of first baptist in dallas and president of dallas theological seminary, you don't get anymore conservative than that. he was pro-choice. not ambivalent but pro-choice. our first job as right wing activists and i was my dad's neptistic side kick and spent the rest of my life repentsing from the fact i did so much harm
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to so many people by help to energize this anti-woman movement. it was not anti-abortion, anti-woman movement. when we went out, evangelicals were the people who wanted no part of this and we had to talk them into this. evangelicals wanted to know about this. now fast-forward 40 year, and we have a situation in texas tonight where the american taliban -- because that's what it is. there is not an evangelical right wing movement, there is an machinery taliban, is so similar to the middle eastern islamist terrorist. here's another weird one. you know a few years ago, some of the islamists were murdering vaccine doctors and nurses who were coming in to try to vaccinate against polio with some mythological conspiracy theories.
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the evangelical voter in texas who backed donald trump is also the voter that is calling vaccines some government conspiracy and wanting to stop joe biden's program to deliver our country from the covid virus. there is a weird convergence of factors here, whether it's handmaid's tale and taking away women's rights, or whether it's the vaccine movement that has grown out of conspiracy theories and misinformation. wherever you touch it, the evangelical movement is no longer the one my dad and i tried to talk into radicalism, and sadly we're too successful in doing back in the '70s. today, and i want to say this again, there is no evangelical political movement, there is a new american taliban and their goal is theocracy, which is to
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force secular americans, non-evangelical americans, women, people of color into that box. and this is not hyperbole, this is happening right now tonight this texas. this is happening right now with the people dying of covid, children dying of covid because pro-lifers have seen fit to stand against joe biden's vaccine as a way to own the lids and they are literally bio terrorist. i was with him at the mayo clinic when we had that conversation, dr. criswall into taking a stand. so dr. bomber, when he talks about this right wing movement to fuel the anger of anti-integration with the beginnings of this thing called the anti-abortion movement is totally corrupt. >> wow.
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it's frightening. i'm just going to put this up before we go. i'm going to show this photo once again, we showed it before. remember, the anti-mask sort of wing of the far right that you're seeing now, they were pro-mask at a time when it wasn't even necessary, because aides had nothing to do with airborne viruses. but they were like, put your kid in a mask. let's just remember who we're dealing with. frank schafer, we have to talk more about this, because this is a terrifying subject. frank schafer, thank you very much, sir. cheers. don't go anywhere. up next, as trump loyalists threaten to punish companies who turn over phone records related to the insurrection. should we tell them that by trying to obstruct the congressional investigation, they're the ones in legal jeopardy? naw. be right back. naw. be right back.
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house minority leaders sent sweeping letters to places and contains records of officers who
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have been implemented. he is lashing out at those companies and he is threatening their very existence, saying, necessary turn over private information, they're in violation of federal law and can lose their ability to operate in the united states. he said the republican majority will not forget and will hold them accountable. there is nothing unlawful about complying with a congressional probe or a professional subpoena. as written in the "washington post," kevin mccarthy's line is utterly bogus. surprise. not only is mccarthy flat outlying, he's proving him to be just as extreme as marjorie taylor greene who threatened the same thing last night. >> these telecommunications companies, if they go along with this, they will be shut down and that's a promise. >> good. i hope they're afraid of you. they should be. >> remember, these are the same
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people who claimed to be small conservatives in a free market enterprise. yet they're more than willing to use the power of government to support corporate behavior if it suits their interest, especially if their interest is their own self-preservation. mccarthy is part of the investigation he's trying to derail. marjorie taylor greene's phone records might be subject to a subpoena because of her involvement in the, quote, stop the steal rally. they're trying to save their own skins. they're the ones who may have run afoul of the law, not the telecom companies they're threatening to destroy. whoever corruptly endeavors to influence, obstruct or impede could face up to five years in prison. defying a congressional probe
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could fit that description. apparently what's in those phone records is so damaging they're willing to risk the crime of corruption to stop it. that's why the select committee must call their bluff and fight tooth and nail to get the materials they're seeking. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in," texas fights a law to end legal abortion. republicans can finally stop pretending. >> i could not vote for a judge who had demonstrated hostility to roe v. wade. >> we have no idea how on overturn roe v. wade. >> there is nothing happening there. and you don't know her view on roe v. wade. >> tonight melissa murray all join me live. and can they stand scrutiny over

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