welcome to "mtp daily." i am chuck todd. we are following two historic stories that have broken in the last 24 hours. one the ruling by the supreme court allowing what is apparently near total ban on abortion in texas to take effect. a major clue that roe's days are likely numbered by the court, could put the issue of abortion front and center in future elections up and down the ballot. president biden is vowing whole of government effort to this decision. we will begin with the historic and deadly toll that remnants of hurricane ida have taken on the northeast. another reminder we live the climate change nightmare many warned about decades ago. the flooding and aftermath killed more than a dozen people, including a two-year-old boy in new york and new jersey after dumping more than a half foot of rain on the region. both states remain under state of emergency as water rescues

continue there. more than three inches of rain fell, astonishing amount of water, breaking a record set a week ago. severely limiting subway service through new york city. the fire department of new york city says it rescued hundreds from subways, buildings, roadways as a result of flash flooding. in new jersey, it wasn't just flooding but a tornado, rare sighting that caused widespread devastation. this is what it did to a neighborhood in new jersey. entire homes were ripped apart, at least three killed in philadelphia where water rescues are also continuing today. officials in montgomery county, pennsylvania, outside the city of philadelphia say they rescued about 500 people since yesterday. more than three times as many rescued as any previous single storm. mind you, this storm came ashore in the gulf and had to work its way across land. ida has moved out of the united states, but it cut a path of destruction from the southeast

to the northeast, includes louisiana, 900,000 customers still have no power. we'll be checking with conditions there later this hour as well. president biden set to visit louisiana tomorrow spoke about the devastation that ida caused in the northeast. >> i want to express my heart felt thanks to all of the first responders and everyone that's been working through the night and well into the morning to save lives and get power back. there's a lot of damage and i made clear to the governors that my team at fema is on the ground, ready to provide all the assistance that's needed. >> yasmin is in westchester county, joins me with monica alba at the white house. one of the issues as climate change fuels stronger storms is about whether we have the

infrastructure to handle the deluge of water that comes now with the storms and i take it that's what we're learning in the northeast, that the infrastructure may not be able to handle monster storms that drop rain at the rate this one did. >> reporter: it is interesting you bring that up, chuck. seems like we just don't. we got the answer last night. speaking to folks in new york city which is where i live, building folks, said new york is not built to withstand storms we had in the last summer. this is the third kind of rain blowout that we had this summer, but this one being the worst, and the buildings, the infrastructure, the areas, the restaurants, commercial areas are not built to withstand this type of rain and flooding. i think the images, right, chuck, tell the story, especially in westchester county which is where i am. i want to take you inside, chuck, somebody's home who graciously allowed us to enter. it is incredibly devastating to see. i am putting the mask on, i am

going indoors. let's walk slow. i don't want jp to trip. you see this house here, chuck, come on with me, jp. it is completely and utterly destroyed. the line of debris, i will get to a lighter area so i can get a better view, the line of debris on the wall shows you how high this water line got. it is a little shorter than i am here. this is a first floor apartment. show the kitchen, jp. look at this. imagine, this is your house, chuck. now completely done, completely destroyed. think about how meeshl it is for this family of four. they have a four-year-old and five month old. woke up at 5:00 in the morning. here's a bedroom here. just gone. they woke up 1:00 this morning, mom told me she got a phone call from a friend. put her feet on the ground, and water was up to her knees.

>> oh, my gosh. >> she was in the same room as her four-year-old and five month old baby. she grabbed her kids and thankfully, show this area where they were sleeping, was able to get out in the nick of time because as we know by this point from other live shots i have been doing, water got higher than the water line in this apartment. the water reached around 11 feet eventually. this floor would have been completely overtaken. they were able to get out in time before anything more devastating happened. a folks lost lives overnight because of this incredible storm. i think it begs to ask the question that you were asking about climate change. whether or not we have the infrastructure to withstand, right, these types of storms. seems like more and more often in the northeast, we're seeing, obviously with what we see in the south that we don't, we

don't have the infrastructure to withstand. it seems like every storm that comes past us, it is the worst of the worst. i think a lot of folks are saying what's next and how do we rebuild from this. seeing this as your reality is really devastating. >> and we have no idea whether that house is inhabitable. people forget with water comes mold. it may be you can't have anybody living in those places. even when the water recedes, it could be devastating on this. terrific reporting. >> reporter: this is, i don't mean to cut you off, so people that have this home, this is a rental property, they have to call the owners who have to file an insurance claim. luckily their cousin lives upstairs. it is one thing after another. it is not easy to pick up your life after something like this. >> if anybody, i am one of those thought they had homeowners

insurance that covered water events, lot of people are going to find out their homeowners doesn't cover rainy -- rain events like this. this will be a financial catastrophe. thank you for personalizing this for people to understand the individual devastation this stuff causes. thank you. monica, i want to go to you about the president. he is going to go to louisiana. but in some ways he mentioned fires. we see what ida did in the northeast. we know that look, he talked about trying to infuse all domestic policy, particularly spending policy, with a mitigation of climate change and dealing with it as sort of a central focus. how do they go about that? >> reporter: precisely, chuck. the president framing this as a climate crisis coast to coast, talking about devastation out

west, and of course where ida first hit in the gulf coast. as it traveled to the northeast, causing catastrophic flooding we were seeing there with yasmin's reporting. the president making the point it is not political. he says when it comes to major weather events, storms don't care whether you're a democrat or republican, whether you live in a rural or urban area. he said earlier this hour talking about this, the impact all over the country. but he took the opportunity to make it a little political in terms of pushing his domestic agenda. he made the case for infrastructure. saying when congress comes back, he would like them to vote on this quickly because people are seeing the need for themselves. he did talk about that. he has been talking about how the federal government is equipped to deal with things

like this and respond with fema on the ground in louisiana and mississippi but also things like department of housing and urban development, helping with critical assistance of many people that have been displaced and will have issues. he wanted to talk about all of this. but he did broaden it, make a big picture pitch for what he wants to accomplish next. all these issues are intertwined. he is talking about not just climate challenges but everything else in terms of infrastructure as well and what he calls desperate need for it and desperate need to act now. >> no doubt. infrastructure whether in new york, louisiana, florida, is not ready for the weather events of the 21st century. monica alba, thank you. we will keep a close eye on the emergency situation in the northeast. we'll bring you anything as it develops. now the top political story which in and of itself is a big

story. the supreme court announced it would not block a new law that effectively bans abortion in texas, though no one is sure how the law will be enforced. president biden slammed the court decision saying it would unleash unconstitutional chaos, mounting what he calls a whole of government effort to respond to this. 5-4 vote, the justices denied emergency request by women's health providers to halt a state law in texas that prohibits abortions after six weeks. it incentivizes members of the public to enforce the bain. citizens entitled to a bounty of $10,000 against anyone that aids an abortion after six weeks. this is written to have a total ban on abortion. many women don't know if they're pregnant at six weeks. the law allows zero exceptions for rape or incest. the court appears to be

signaling it is not a matter of if but when the landmark abortion case roe v wade will be overturned. it opens a ban dora's box of questions legally, culturally, politically. we're pretty divided on this issue. there's no clean answer. look at the new numbers. 8% of adults say it should be illegal without exception. 8% of the country agrees with the texas law. democrats and independents say abortion should be legal by sizable margins. urban and suburban americans say it should be legal by bigger margins than that. then you look at it by age, there's a giant age gap. young voters, among 65 and over, views are split down the middle as you'll see. we'll dive into what this means for the broader political

landscape. first dive into the specific situation in texas and the white house response. joining me, executive editor of texas tribune, ross ramsey. ross, start with a simple question. this is now the law of the land in texas, law of the state land there. how does this get enforced? who's in charge of enforcing this law? >> they wrote this to stump the courts. they're not putting the state or any part of the state, local prosecutors or anything like that in position of enforcing this. instead, as you mentioned in the lead in, they're crowd sourcing enforcement, allowing people to go to civil means to go after anyone who aids or abets someone seeking an abortion. you can't sue the person getting or seeking the abortion, but you can sue the doctor, sue the uber driver, anybody that helps pay for it. the thought was they can accomplish a ban on abortion and

not put the state in position of being sued. when it went to the u.s. supreme court, the court in effect was stumped by this, dissent from four judges, including chief justice, said you're doing an unconstitutional think, but you confounded the court with the mechanism you've got. it raises a ton of questions. >> explain the $10,000, is it reward, bounty? i don't mean to, i mean, it is bizarre. why would somebody who decides to take it in their own hands to stop or help identify an illegally done abortion according to texas law, why should they get rewarded with $10,000? >> the authors of this said that you still have to go through the civil procedures and all those things but you have to -- and when you get to the end, if you're correct and the court decides with you, then the court can order lawyer fees are paid up to $10,000 be paid to you basically as bounty. didn't call it a bounty. it has become the bounty hunting

bill rhetorically in texas and that's effectively how it works. >> so is there any, i mean, you look at the polling on this. there's not support for this extreme of a measure. most of the polling, whether in texas or nationally as we just showed, you have minorities that want either no exceptions, all legal or everything illegal. but a majority of the country is somewhere in the middle, those want to see legal with some restrictions or some illegal but with some exceptions. politically what are some of the more moderate suburban republicans thinking with this? >> well, all of the republicans in the legislature voted for this. they were unanimous. two democrats voted for it, the rest of the democrats didn't. it is effectively a republican state. it has been in the legislature

since early part of the century, and statewide elections for more than 25 years. there's not an effective opposition, and nothing here really to moderate it. you put something like this on the floor of the texas house or floor of the texas senate, republicans feel compelled to stick with it, or they're going to get beat by conservatives in their own primaries. >> what do the abortion clinics plan to do, do they want to challenge the law, dare people to stop them believing this is unconstitutional nationally or try to work with confines of the law. >> still a lot of litigation pending. the court didn't rule on merits of the law, they decided not to stop it. this has been in effect since wednesday morning in texas.

september 1st when the law took effect. there's a combination of a lot of people surprised that it went this way, that the court didn't stop it. a lot of people both sides of the argument thought probably the court will stop it, we'll litigate it awhile. we're in a different situation where this is in effect, clinics and things, i believe there are 24 abortion providers locations left in the state of texas. they basically started to shut doors at midnight night before last. at the moment, unless you are less than six weeks pregnant, you can't get an abortion in texas. they tell us that's 85 or 90% of cases. >> where did the idea of using the public and creating crowd sourcing bounty incentive on this, is this modeled after some other piece of legislation we never heard of on another issue? it seems to be certainly as the courts pointed out a unique,

unusual way to try to get around the constitutionality of the law. >> it is new. that's why it confounded the courts like it did. ordinarily, they would say state of texas will enforce, if you don't like it, you sue state of texas in this. since you don't have an actor, you don't have executive or government authority, they basically crowd sourced it. until someone files a suit, you don't have a test case. >> like everything with the abortion debate. at the end of the day, nobody wants to take ownership of some of the laws, they kind of want to work around the system. ross, thank you. up next, just when you thought politics in the country couldn't get more polarized, let's throw abortion on the pile. talk about a way, an issue that could up end our politics in '22 and '24. and later, an update from a

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abortion illegal but with exceptions, life of the mother, things like that. then 15%, illegal with no exceptions. in texas, the majority are between. they're not for totally legal or totally illegal. let's look at some swing states here that are both up in '22 and '24. georgia, pennsylvania, wisconsin, arizona. huge senate races. essentially the breakdown, majorities in all states, majority for legal. large minorities though in wanting to see abortion mostly illegal. again, it is the extremes of smaller numbers here. it is in the 30% that want some exceptions if you make it illegal or some other exemptions if you decide to make it legal. three other states to keep an eye on, ohio, texas, iowa, both

more republican, but there's a narrow sort of plurality in two, majority in one here where the belief is that abortion should be more legal than illegal. let's talk about the politics of this. joining me, former missouri democratic senator claire mccaskill, also msnbc political analyst, and matt lauery. claire, you come from a state i argue is sort of in this -- most people are within the 30 lines on abortion. either want it to be legal with some exceptions or illegal with some exemptions here. where is this headed in your view. >> i think texas has ignited the vast majority of americans in

this country with what they've done. let's be clear. this isn't about polarization as relates to the texas law, this is about that 15% that wants abortion illegal in all cases, including a young girl who has been repeatedly raped by her father who has no idea she's pregnant until after six weeks. in texas, they put out private bounty hunters for her. i mean, that is beyond the pale extreme. i bet if you took a toll on that, it would be 90/10. that's what the supreme court said. >> the party that overreaches

gets punished. is this an overreach? >> people are acting like roe has been overturned. i would welcome that outcome. it may be in this dobbs case but hasn't been overturned yet at all. this is a procedural ruling that was clearly the correct one. there was no harm here yet. eight defendants had done nothing, even enjoining them if that's what happened wouldn't have stopped this law because their government officials have nothing to do with enforcement of the law. i tip my hat to pro-lifers in texas. i don't think anyone should have to find a way around roe, i think it is bad law and should be tossed, but in that environment they found a way to avoid injunctions on what they want to do and to find a way to restrict abortion working around roe. ideally, roe goes, then democratic liberation around the country. some states will be entirely illegal, some states it will be illegal. most statements will be

somewhere in between. and public opinion question, chuck, is what are people thinking when they say most of the time or some exceptions. i think that's been fully probed. i don't think people thought it through. post roe environment, they have to. >> i want to drill down on something. you're comfortable with this sort of empowering the public to be some bounty police force? this is an oddly written law. imagine if this were done with other issues when it comes to gun restrictions and things like this. this feels like turning the public against each other. >> there's some precedent for it is entirely a different realm. false claims act has a provision like this. if roe weren't in the way, if roe weren't blocking any significant expression of pro-life sentiment in texas or

countries, states around the country, you would flatly restrict abortion. a work around caused by extortion from the supreme court, there's no right to abortion in the constitution. the left is used to using that spurious decision as a way to block democratic deliberation and action on this. i don't know if roe will go or not, it will be eroded. democrats have to get used to winning it in the small d democratic arena rather than running to the courts. >> claire, is the answer to get roe codified in congress? >> i have to tell you, my heart is beating so fast now. it is very hard for me to stay calm, to acquit the false claims act, setting extreme anti-abortion factions after young girls raped because they didn't know they were pregnant until after six weeks i found outrageous. this is not a work around. it shouldn't be a tip of the hat. it should be condemnation that

they are trying to take 50 years of supreme court precedent and throw it out by creating a private police that can invade women's life at the most personal, private and difficult moment they ever face. and many of those women are very, very young. i want bounty hunters after people that are raping their children. i want bounty hunters after them. if this is the way, the road we're going down in america, to hire private police in order to avoid constitutional precedent, i am so tired of conservatives talking about value of precedent until they don't. i mean really, i'm sorry to get so upset. rich is my friend. but he is so flat wrong about the impact this will have on women in this country. >> well, i mean, the bottom, crux of the issue is abortion a moral wrong or not. and if you believe destruction of innocent life in any

circumstance is wrong, then you have a different conclusion on this. i think all due respect, you're letting rhetoric get out of hand, bounty hunters, private police, that's not what this is at all. of course rape is illegal. and that's enforced in texas and every state around the country. but roe, there's no right to abortion in the constitution. there just isn't. roe has been used to block democratic action on abortion. let's have the debate. we're having debate now. then state legislature should be able to decide. it will be abortion illegal in some states, in between in others. fully legal in others. if roe had never been on the books, this debate would have happened long ago, there would have been a kind of equalibrium, probably not to my liking, but what if more small d democratic debate which has been denied illegitimately by the supreme court. >> claire?

>> well, this is an outrageous work around. just read sotomayor's dissent that four agreed with. this was a way, a trick. this was trying to take it out of the state's hands so somehow they could overrule 50 years of constitutional precedent. i can't wait for cavanaugh's precedent. they blew it up on religious freedom a few months ago. this is all about situational precedent for the far right. they've gone too far on this. there will be huge political ramifications for private bounty police going after women who want to terminate a pregnancy as soon as they find out they're pregnant, which many times is after six weeks. >> the president is not the ultimate -- the decision of constitutionally sound or not, roe isn't.

people agree with the policy, that's fine, that's their right, but the supreme court shouldn't illegitimately with no constitutional warrant keep this debate from happening. if roe weren't on the books, texas would have restriction on the abortions. it would be simpler. it is a bad supreme court decision that's the problem. i hope the court overturns it, not sure it will, but it will be eroded and that's good. >> claire, before we get to the supreme court and that decision and whether roe stays in name only or not, this decision shows it has been already eroded, what would you be advising, right now, democrats have control of congress. you try to codify it. >> well, i think they will try to codify it. and i think it will be a tough vote for many republicans that are in those states you put up, chuck. the extreme position they've taken in texas, that they're hanging their hat on, is not supported by america.

it is not supported by people in wisconsin or ohio or pennsylvania or georgia or any of the battleground states or suburban districts that will be the battleground in house races. i am not willing to say this was a good thing in any way because it is a terrible thing. but there will be political benefits to democrats as a result of what the supreme court did late last night. >> one thing it will do -- >> have to overturn the filibuster and that would not turn out well for the democrats. >> here's what's true even though we are not resolving it now. a lot of people are lawmakers on state level, congressional level, that have been able to duck specifics on their abortion position. it is now because this is going to be state by state, it is going to test everybody on some specifics when it comes to abortion and i think we will find out really on the details where this is headed.

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as we said, the supreme court decision not to block texas restrictive abortion law came in a 5-4 vote last night. in her dissent, sotomayor called the law a breathtaking act of defines of the constitution, of this court's precedents, and the rights of women seeking abortions throughout texas. this comes a month before the court is set to hear arguments on an abortion case out of mississippi in a new law there. to breakdown legal implications of this decision by this court, joined by "the washington post" supreme court reporter, robert barns. robert, i think to me the big news, we sort of saw this development happening over the last year in the last term of the court, john roberts may be the chief justice but he doesn't control the court any more, does he? >> you're right about that. the chief justice offered up a compromise to say let's keep the law from going into effect while we look at the unique and as he called them unprecedented issues that it raises.

only two other justices went along with that. none of his fellow conservatives did. >> this is in bret cavanaugh's hands. at least on this issue, this is his court. some ways, he truly has replaced anthony kennedy as far as being the swing justice here. >> could be. and also could be justice barrett. we don't know yet enough about her inclinations and jurisprudence. she has only been there a short time. i think it is clear that the two of them are probably more in the middle of the court as the conservatives go than the other three conservative justices. >> so the decision by this court to let this go, i mean, why shouldn't we look at it as well, we know where mississippi is headed. >> well, it didn't present a constitutional issue, it did in

a way, but that's not what the court was deciding. the court was deciding procedural issues, whether or not to stop the law before it went into effect or not. the case that they're going to take up in the fall, mississippi's 15 week ban on abortion directly challenges roe v wade. that will be a case where the court is sort of directly presented with that question and we'll find out whether or not the court is willing to go along with that. >> is it likely here that this texas law then, even if roe is overturned by mississippi, this texas law still could have problems constitutionally when it comes before the court? >> perhaps. but i think if the court overturns roe, that throws the issue of abortion back to the state legislature the way it was

almost 50 years ago and the state legislatures will have a freehand to do what it wants on abortion to the extent of not offering it or allowing it in the state. we will move back to a sort of patch work state by state system and not the national guarantee of abortion rights that roe provided. >> is this 5-4 makeup we saw, is this the new split with roberts sort of in the middle here? >> i think it is on some questions. you know, neither all of the conservatives nor all of the liberals think alike on everything so there are some issues, voting rights, where you've seen six conservatives very much on the same page.

so in questions like that, they'll all go one way. on other issues, though, it is more divided and there is more of a role for the chief justice and perhaps justice cavanaugh or barrett to play that position. >> he put it off for years. he never says this, i mean he being john roberts. always seems as if he is mindful that he doesn't want to put the supreme court in the middle of a political fight. well, we're here now and the supreme court is going to get polarized publicly. it is, believe it or not, even though in washington people have opinions about where the court is, the public has been fairly split on its rules over the last few years, fairly pleased with it. it feels like this is going to polarize the court the same way everything else has been polarized. >> this is a big issue. you know, if you look at supreme court terms, you often have

where liberals win a few, conservatives win a few, sometimes those are very narrow wins that sort of put off the big question but, you know, in the public's mind it looks like it is kind of evening out and i think that's what the public has reacted to. the public does hold the court in fairly high esteem, certainly better than congress, about what it thinks about the executive branch, and i think it is that sort of back and forth, one side wins one, one side wins another that keeps the public thinking that perhaps the court is somewhere in the middle where they like it. >> going back to the conservative five that basically decided to let the law stand, is there anybody there that we're just overassuming what their position is going to be other than the two we named, which is

cavanaugh and barrett? >> i don't think so. justice gorsuch supplied at least one surprise since he has been on the court about the rights of gay and transgender employees and so that was one that didn't turn out the way it was sort of thought that it might. sometimes the liberals join the conservatives in religious case that you would think that there would be a divide on. but it is, you know, splits are real. >> supreme court reporter for "the washington post," always an important column i read when you write about the court. thanks very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, we have a live report from philadelphia where water rescues have been happening all day after this historic downpour and flooding. another severe weather update from the gulf coast. hundreds of thousands of

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to learn more, visit safetyactioncenter.pge.com rescues are taking place in the northeast. this is drone video into the newsroom from bridgeport, pennsylvania, within montgomery county which is a suburban county outside philadelphia. montgomery county says three people were killed from remnants of hurricane ida. crews rescued 500 people since yesterday. you don't see water like this in philadelphia. previous record from a single storm was 135. philadelphia, this is just, you look here and think is this the cajun navy in louisiana, you say we're used to that, we're not used to this. >> reporter: hey there, chuck.

we're in centre city, philadelphia. you can see there are feet of water. you see green garbage can, halfway up. further along, a giant supermarket. further than that, you can see cars submerged there. officials are calling this an active situation. that's exactly what this is. the banks are still rising. water of the schuylkill river about a block from here is still rising, and not supposed to crest for a few hours this afternoon. officials are doing water rescues through the morning and afternoon. and they're going to continue until they get everyone they need to get out. i talked to a neighbor here who was next to the live shot. she said she has friends that live above the giant behind me, friends trying to get out of the building, and they can't without water rescues. we have seen a number of military style looking high water vehicles driving back and forth, trying to get people in and out of the situation.

today philadelphia public schools did not close. that was causing consternation among parents. there's no decision on schools tomorrow. we have 50,000 people here in the city without power. >> i was going to ask about the power situation and drinking water. lot of times flooding situations, is the drinking water still good to go? >> reporter: no word on drinking water, they're worried about getting people rescued from first level apartments, street level apartments. no word on drinking yet. we know there's no injuries and no casualties that the emergency office knows of yet. >> that is good news. gary, thank you, right by downtown. whoever the school administrator was that made that decision, you never get questioned for closing. you always get questioned when

you don't. in louisiana, more than 900,000 residents were still without power this morning as the gulf region continues to reel from ida's aftermath. the mayor acknowledged some progress was made restoring power for eastern part of the city, but it is coming out in a trickle. officials in neighboring st. charles parish said to expect at least a month without power. and most of those get the electricity from the state's largest company entergy, and they said that in a tweet that getting the hospitals back up online was the top priority. and the hospitals were under a strain with covid patients before the hurricane tore through the state and had to evacuate some patients and send them through the back generators and while the chief administrator is joining us now.

and so first of all, how is the power situation for the hospitals in the region? >> thank you. the power is getting better. entergy is working to get some of the major feeds and the major power feeds to certainly the central facilities in the so, more facilities on power, and the larger facility in new orleans got power this morning, and we were able to use that. we have a couple of facilities the down and running on generator, but the generators are plugging along and keeping things running at those facilities. do you have limitations on what the patients you can treat right now? >> so, the limitations right now in many of the facilities are just a matter of staffing in the

hospital. our emergency departments are open and running, and of course, the routine types of care that come in on an auto basis, but the things that come in after the storm like this, the cuts and the falls and the bruises and that sort of thing. >> the staffing situation is the same issue that many hospitals are dealing with. how acute is this and how concerned are you that this is going to impact care? >> so the staffing situation is certainly acute, and it has been a problem for months as we had experienced that fourth covid surge. finding enough staff to take care of to patients is certainly difficult, and we are relying on the redeploying at of people in our facilities, and to different areas. but we had a week ago, we had

over 900 patients in our hospitals just with covid. thank goodness, as this storm hit, we were down, and now we are down 600, and this is going to free up some beds, but it is difficult to find the staffing to manage all of the patients right now with covid and with the other illnesses that we are trying to take care of. >> curious, dr. hart, given that you just gave us a sort of patient situation there. do you, is there more evidence that tells you that maybe louisiana is at least finally plateauing here with the fourth surge? >> so, definitely, we have seen the numbers come down from the fourth surge where we had highs above 1,000 at one point in the facilities, and so down below 700, in the 600 range, great. and my big concern though with this storm is going to be a lot of people who traveled who

evacuated who are going to be in close quarters, and now they are going to be coming back as they get power and worry about another spike perhaps in the covid numbers. >> dr. hart, the executive vice president of oschner medical center in louisiana, we appreciate your coming on and letting us know how things are going there. thank you. >> certainly. and on the west coast, we have thousands of acres on fire, and california's caldor fire is racing toward lake tahoe and thousands of tourists are going to the region to escape the inferno, and there is some hope to avoid this. and nevada's governor is already declaring a state of emergency as the flames are encroaching there. as of this morning 25% contain and just a few miles east, a smaller and more controlled fire

tamarack is now burning, and the firefighters are trying to merge them as an effort to get one under control. all right. tough day, as we have been dealing with a ton of problems in this country, and let's hope that we can find the leadership to deal with it. that is it for us, and we will see you tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." our coverage continues after this break with geoff bennett. . ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways... increases insulin when you need it... decreases sugar... and slows food. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. people taking rybelsus® lost up to 8 pounds. rybelsus® isn't for peopl with type 1 diabetes.

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and it is good to be with you on this thursday. i'm geoff bennett and we start with a 1 in 500 weather event from maryland to massachusetts. far more catastrophic than expected catching much of the northeast off guard. the officials say that at least 25 people have died and a massive search and rescue mission is under way. after that record shattering rainfall in new york, new jersey and pennsylvania. those three states absolutely walloped by the remnants of hurricane ida. now right now, rescues are under way in philadelphia with the officials going house-to-house to save people who didn't have enough time or warning to evacuate. now, this is drone video that we just got into the newsroom, and it is from bridgeport, pennsylvania, there in montgomery county outside of philadelphia where the officials say that at least three people have died. now with the historic rainfall unleashing flash flooding along with the