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black residents there are 5% of the population but 26% of the stops. or across the u.s. we have a study of over 800 separate places where black people are arrested at five times the rate of white americans. this is important. it is not partisan. it is a bigger problem than that and we will stay on the story. thanks for spending time with "the beat." "the reidout" is up next. hello, joy. >> hello, ari. thank you for bringing up that important issue. we will be watching. have a great evening. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" to night with a big dose of existential threat. sit down it will be a ride. much of new york and new jersey are under water with more than 40 people dying from devastating floods last night. will this finally be the moment people start acknowledging just how bad the climate crisis is? meanwhile, covid continues to rage across the country with children's hospitals at capacity and pleading for help.
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then there's this. in their second dead-of-night ruling in just over a week after striking down protections for americans facing eviction last week, the conservative majority on the supreme court declined to overturn the six-week abortion ban in texas. the abortion law has no exceptions for incest or rape, and deputizes private citizens as bounty hunters searching for anyone who performed or helped a woman get an abortion after that six-week period before most women even know that they're pregnant. while the decision is shocking, it shouldn't be surprising to anyone. we knew what america was signing up for when donald trump was elected president. through the 2016 republican primary, some republicans were worried a womanizing reality star with three babies' mamas and a taste for adult film stars might not be conservative enough, so trump made a deal. he'd appoint judges, including to the supreme court if any openings were to happen, from a
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list carefully curated by the right wing heritage foundation and he would make sure that his appointments would be in a position to overturn roe v. wade. he even went so far as to say women should be punished, punished for getting an abortion. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle? >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah, there has to be some form. >> and it worked. mitch mcconnell made it his mission to stop president obama from seating merrick garland to fill anthony scalia's seat, which mcconnell later called the biggest accomplishment of his career. and trump won the election, which the family research council president wasn't because folks liked him more than previous candidates. they were mobilized by the clear contrast with hillary clinton on abortion. so trump nominated gorsuch and
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then brett kavanaugh. and while they promised to respect the esteem of roe v. wade, something way too many politicians were assured by and we'll have more on that later, everyone should have seen them and amy barrett comey coming. she referred to abortion as always immoral and said in 2013 life begins at conception. here we are with the rights of women in texas snatched away overnight and the looming threat of roe v. wade being overturned next year by the very same justices. what is even scarier than that is the blueprint the court gave to any other state that wants to do the exact same thing. the majority opinion written by five justices says that the abortion providers didn't have the correct argument. quote, their application presents complex and novel proceeding questions on which they have not carried their burden. so if you write a law that
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follows certain technicalities you can overreturn roe. on cue florida said, hold my beer, announcing that they will consider a bill like the one in texas and they were followed by south dakota governor christie nome who wants a piece of that bounty action now. when asked for comment about potential new abortion restrictions, the florida senate president sent a reporter smiling sunglasses emoji. what can democrats do to fight against this? president biden said today he is launching a whole of government effort to respond to this decision to see what steps the federal government can take to ensure that women in texas have access to safe and legal abortions and what legal tools we have to insulate women and providers. joining me now former senator barbara boxer from california. i will start with you. a scorching piece was written on
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the decision in which was said basically what the five justices said is we're going to do this because it is only women that are at risk. dahlia writes this. they never intended to do in the open what could be done through sloppy subterfuge. the court opted to end virtually all abortion rights in texas in the full knowledge that they were blessing a brutal piece of lawless vigilantism because it is only about women. your thoughts? >> my thoughts are 100% with that commentary. i have always believed a woman ease right to choose is about respecting a woman's decision. it is up to her however she decides. it is between her, her doctor, her partner and her religious faith if she chooses to go that direction. everyone has their right. that's what roe said, up to viability you can decide. i just want to say this to the women within the sound of my voice and the men who care about them, wake up, america.
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this is a full-throated overturning of roe, and i lived through the years before roe and i saw women suffer. i saw -- i had a friend, i wrote about it in my book, who i almost lost her. why? her boyfriend said, here is $300, go to mexico, and she barely came back from that. before we -- before we had penicillin we had thousands of women die every year. once we had antibiotics it is hundreds of women. women will die if they can't afford to leave that state and that vigilante state. it is just breaking my heart, and we have to fight back hard. >> you know, erin, i knew that the republican party had no use for, really respect for women, you know, when clarence thomas got in. now two of the nine members of the united states supreme court and two of the six conservative
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members or one-third of the conservative members have been accused of sexual misconduct and they have lifetime appointments on the court. i think it is pretty clear the way the right in america feels about women so it doesn't surprise me they would go this far, but i have to get you to comment on the vigilantism aspect of this. because what essentially the texas republicans have done is they've unleashed fellow texans on any woman that they can identify and anyone who helps her to end an unwanted pregnancy and essentially said collect a bounty on them. your thoughts on that? >> joy, you describe that exactly right. look, the lesson and reminder here is that elections have consequences. what we're seeing happen in texas is probably the biggest example of that fact post-2016 despite the fact women are half the population and half the electorate. to your point whether we are talking about abortion or voting rights or critical race theory, you have republican lawmakers
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empowering their voters to take direction action against their fellow citizens, friends and family members. while we're arguing about whether people should have to wear masks or be vaccinated for their safety or the safety of others, you know, that's not something that's currently enforced. but what is in effect in states like texas or my home state of georgia are laws that prevent people from long lines being able to get food or water while waiting to vote or poll watchers being able to potentially intimidate certain voters or precincts where they deem questionable conduct is occurring, right, or people being able to sue anybody they think is seeking abortion or anybody that tries to help them. this is not the limited government that republicans claim to espouse and support. we see now the precedent is not a priority when power is at issue. >> yeah. i mean it is limited government only in the since they are passing government on to individual, you know, right wingers and militias. they are sort of creating a giant militia movement, eli,
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inside the united states. they don't even have to implement them themselves. they can empower individual right wing, basically men, and in the case of texas armed men to enforce minority rule for them. that's even worse than big government. let me ask you this question because you wrote a piece that talked about what can actually be done about it because i think it is easy for us to really get depressed about republicans doing bad things even though they're in the minority, but the majority is the majority. we should be able to do something about it. the democrats right now have power, even though as you said sometimes they don't act like it, sometimes they do, in washington. what they do about this? >> look, we cannot be caught flat footed here because as horrible as the texas law is, this year 2021 has already seen more abortion restrictions proposed and passed than any other year in united states history. what changed between 2020 and 2021? oh, i remember. ruth bader ginsberg died and amy
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coney barrett got on the court. we knew it was coming, the states new it was coming, the republicans knew it was coming. for us to be like now, oh, maybe we need a whole of government response. you think? that should have been in place. we should have known it was coming. i live in new york. it is wet right now. if i was on top of my roof kind of looking for help, i would expect the cavalry to be coming directly, right? fema, coast guard, operation dumbo drop, somebody should be coming to get me. in fact, when it happened in katrina, the failure of the federal government to go get people was viewed as one of the biggest failures of george w. bush's presidency. similarly, we need to go and get women in texas and protect their constitutionally protected medical rights, and the way you do that is that you deputize doctors. you federalize doctors. you create through an executive order an army of federal doctors who are going to go in to texas
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and protect the constitution by giving -- by consulting women about their privacy rights and their medical history. that, by federalizing the doctor force, that would protect those abortion providers from the texas law which, as we all said, is a bounty system. only private citizens can enforce it. well, you know, what federal officials are protected from private civil actions by qualified immunity? which i don't like, but, you know, what? it is time to play hardball. it is not go high time. this is go time. so you send in the doctors. they're protected with qualified immunity. the way you get around the hyde amendment, which is this ridiculous rule that the government can't spend money on abortions because apparently poor people don't get the same health care and everything else. the way you get around the hyde amendment, you made abortions free which they probably should be already and you privately fund the doctors doing this service in defense of the
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constitution. biden could do that law tonight and you could have the doctors on their way to texas tomorrow. that's what he would do if he needed to go get some people off roofs from a flooding situation. >> this is a great idea. that's why i was really excited to get you on today. by the way, that is on the nation website so you guys can read it if you want the details, you want to reread what elie is sayic. you cover the capitol hill world here, errin. what are chances in talking to white house officials they would do something like that, they would try something like this since they said they're doing a whole-of-government approach? >> well, it is unclear what a whole-of-government approach is going to mean, right. you already have president biden saying that the white house counsel on gender is the point -- point of contact to look into what the administration's response can be, that you saw the department of justice saying that they would be examining their options. the department of health and
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human services, agencies like the fda may be able to intervene or get involved here, and that is certainly what these organizers and activists are calling for, for federal action, not to mention speaker pelosi saying that, you know, federal abortion legislation will be taken up in the house soon. so we may see action on that federal legislation as president biden has also publicly called for roe to be codified in congress. and so all of those leaders are currently in motion but not really sure what the timetable is. that court reform commission that could be considering, for example, expanding the court, we're not going to have that report for another month. so we don't know, you know, what the options are from that standpoint with the supreme court response. but, you know, these kinds of measures are going to continue to galvanize democrats, but at what cost to our democracy, joy? you know, i talked to sheryl
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eiffel who says they're playing whack-a-mole here and they can't out legislate, they can't out organize what is happening here. this is absolutely what republicans voted for. this is what the former president promised them and this is what he has delivered. >> this is the problem, senator boxer, is that democrats are like the school student council that's like having a meeting while the building is on fire, right. like they keep on saying, well, then we'll sit down and have a commission and then we'll, you know, come up with some legislation and pass it. their plan does not take into account the fact that the fire is happening now. there was a piece that was written that pointed out all the supreme court can do is decide whether laws are constitutional or unconstitutional, they can't ban abortion. in theory democrats could pass an efficient piece of legislation that reverses what the supreme court did, they can
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actually do that. as errin just said, speaker pelosi has said the house is going to bring judy chu's house protection act to the floor but then you run back into the senate again where we get back to kyrsten sinema and joe manchin saying, well, that's not a priority for me. my question to you, if the house doesn't act immediately is there a chance take the united states senate will do anything? >> i hope so. all i can tell you is i hope so. if i had still been there now, my hair would be on fire and i would be saying the following. mitch mcconnell did away with the filibuster for supreme court justices. that hit me because i defended the filibuster for supreme court justices, that's the reason it was there.
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he did away with it, single shot. there are two things pend inning the country that need a single shot to do away with the filibuster, voting rights and women's right. that should be the full-court press. i want to make a technical point. i'm not an attorney, but reading this law we have civilian secret police. they're spying on their neighbors. the motto of this, we know it is the lone star -- but the motto is --ship. there's no friendship involved in this. >> yeah. vigilantism. >> it totally is, neighbors turning on neighbors and getting $10,000 to that. so i think what has to happen now is there needs to be a very open way for a woman who is brave and strong, or several of them, to walk into a clinic with a team of supporters, kind of that approach that you talked
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about, sir, and just say, "sue me." sue me now. get this thing going to the court. >> it almost has to be done. boycott texas. somebody has to do something that's a little more radical and immediate than trying to get legislation through because it is going to be too late. barbara boxer, errin haines, elie mystic, read his piece. this is the latest example of extreme weather and we as a nation have run out of time to try to convince the flat earth people the climate crisis isn't really happening. plus, children are now dying of covid, and icus at children's hospitals are nearing capacity. they're pleading for federal help. remember actress susan sarandon? a progressive who couldn't bring herself to support hillary clinton in 2016 saying she thought hillary was too dangerous. how is that looking now, susan? with trump's supreme court taking away women's rights.
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the remnants of hurricane ida battered the northeastern united states yesterday leaving a path of destruction in its wake across new york, new jersey, connecticut and pennsylvania, where at least 42 people have died according to nbc news. while no longer a hurricane, ida delivered record-breaking rainfall turning roadways into rivers, stranding passengers and sweeping away vehicles. the storm prompted an unprecedented flash flood emergency in new york city, flooding homes and trapping residents. the city's century-old subway system was no match for the rising floodwaters that quickly overwhelmed stations and train cars which had to be evacuated before service was shut down. the storm also unleashed multiple tornados like this one captured on video, not in kansas but in mullica hill, new jersey.
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it submerged entire neighborhoods in philadelphia where rescue efforts were underway all day. all of this comes after ida left millions in and around new orleans without power, and many won't have it back for weeks more to come as the strongest storm to hit louisiana since 1850. it even reversed the flow of the mississippi river for hours during its landfall. the biggest river in this country literally ran backwards. this is the latest in a series of extreme weather events, and make no mistake it is the product of the growing climate crisis we all face. it is not only super charging hurricanes like ida but spurred out-of-control wildfires too like the one country raging near lake tahoe in california that has destroyed more than 200,000 acres. simply put, these crises are getting worse. they're occurring more frequently, and we are, frankly, not prepared to deal with them. with drastic implications for
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our infrastructure and our economy, not to me immigration and health care, what we're seeing today could be the new normal for years to come. with me now meteorologist man . and michael mann, author of "the new climate war: the fight to take back the planet." i will start with you, mathew. give us scenes. a tornado struck down in annapolis. it doesn't sound like a normal thing that is normally supposed to happen. what are your views going on, and isn't this just basically what we should have expected given we have done absolutely nothing to fight climate change? >> well, i think that we -- we do get tornados every year. of course, the mid-atlantic gets tornado. we are seeing them more partly thanks to social media. we get videos more. this tornado was atypical because we got better visuals for it. we don't have a firm link
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between climate change and tornados, unlike hurricanes which there's a solid link to. the biggest thing with tornados not so much. the easiest thing to tie it to with regard to climate change is the rainfall. it can hold more water which can fuel things like the floods we saw. with tornados it is a bit of a stretch. >> talk about what is impacted, michael. nbc has a piece called "how rapid intensive indication built hurricane ida." a study last year published analyzed satellite images from the past four decades and found the chance a hurricane will develop into a category 3 storm or higher increased around 8% per decade as global warming has accelerated. how does that happen and is there anything we can do to reverse it? >> yeah, unfortunately, no, there isn't. what we're seeing now is baked in. this is what we're going to have to deal with. acting on climate now can
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prevent things from getting worse. when it comes to these hurricanes that we've seen, they're feeding off not just a warm ocean surface but a very deep layer of warm water, and the ocean has been warmer this year than it was in any other year. this was the warmest year on record when you look at the heat content of the upper ocean. it is that heat that allows these storms to intensify. asthma thao mentioned there's an increase of about 7% for each degree celsius of warming of the ocean surface, and that's about how much the ocean has warmed, but you also get a large increase in the intensity of these storms, as much as some miles per hour for each degree of warming, a more intense hurricane and trains more moisture into the system. you can see a much larger increase than the nominal 7%. you can see 20%, 30%, 40% increases, and that's sort of what we're seeing with these unprecedented rainfall totals we
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are seeing. >> well, i mean, mathew, the thing is new york city, you know, there was a hurricane a few years ago which was crazy, there was a hurricane in new york. you say they have tornados there. hurricanes are not normally in new york. i used to live in florida and that's where you see hurricanes. the subway system goes back to the early 1900s. they're not ready for climate change for constant flooding and hurricanes. "usa today" did an editorial in which they talked about our way of life hanging in the balance when it comes to climate change. the u.n. issued a report that found that the consequence of human-driven emissions are irreversible as we heard from michael mann. the assessment also emphasizes the worst case disasters aren't inevitable. what should we be thinking about because we're not hardening our infrastructure enough either. >> that's a good point. our infrastructure can't handle stuff like this because realistically we were built to handle what was happening
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yesterday. how frequently these things happen becomes more and more problematic. last night the rain fall rates were excessive, 3.24 inches at the international airport in one hours time, a month's worth of rainfall coming down in 60 minutes. 3.5 inches in central park, a similar thing. very little can handle that kind of rainfall. we don't have the drainage systems. these cities are old, they can't handle that rainfall. urban sprawl has led to a footprint that is soaking up more rainfall. i think the biggest things will be these systems. we are not created to handle these sort of events. >> michael, as with the many things when america catches a cold people in qatar catch a fever, an epa report was posted that talked about how climate change will hit racial minorities the hardest. they found black people are 40% more likely than other groups to live in places where extreme
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temperatures driven by climate change will result in higher mortality rates. you see it playing out across the country. not only people of color but people of lower income will be hit the hardest, right? >> yeah. i mean that's what, you know, is really so unfortunate. those who had the least role in creating the problem, those are, you know, folks who have the least wealth, future generations, people in the developing world, in the global south who had the least role in creating the problem are bearing the brunt of the impacts because they have the least resilience. they have the least resources to deal with these problems. we saw that in new orleans once again. >> yes. >> there's a very large urban population that's going to be without, you know, power, without water for weeks on end. so, you know, climate action is a matter of social justice. acting on the climate crisis is acting to further the cause of social justice and we need to
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see it in that framework. it impacts all of us, but it is harder on those with the least resources. >> amen. amen to that. mathew capucci, michael mann, thank you very much. still ahead, the covid crisis takes a grim new turn as hospitalizations among children reach record highs. children's hospitals are begging the federal government for help as the right continues to spread dangerous misinformation. we will be right back. [relaxed summer themed music playing] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ question for anti-vaxxers. where do you stand on personal freedom when it comes to a child's right to live? nearly 4.8 million children have tested positive for covid since march 2020, and that whole, you know, covid doesn't impact kids part of the pandemic? that ship has sailed. in georgia where the vaccination rate is 41% a 13 year old has died of respiratory failure due to covid-19. in florida where school children fall prey to the governor's political ambition two children died within 24 hours, one as young as 2 weeks old. pediatric units are so full a group representing 220 hospitals is begging the biden administration for federal help. meanwhile, children's hospital in new orleans, hit by both covid and a category 4 storm, has an intensive care unit packed with covid patients. "the new york times" reports the situation is so dire the state
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called in a federal surge team of emergency responders to help. joining me now is dr. mark klein, physician in chief at children's hospital new orleans. i read this heartbreaking piece in "the new york times" that talked about what is happening where you work, and it is frightening. tell us about the conditions there and what you are dealing with. >> well, joy, we've suffered a one-two punch. we have been dealing with covid for a couple of months now, or at least this latest surge, and echoing what you said just a moment ago. the delta variant is just a whole other animal. it is not your grandfather's covid. it is not what we saw last year when only about 6% of covid cases in the u.s. were children. now a quarter or more of all of the new cases of covid in the united states and in louisiana are among children. so our units have had large numbers of children, very ill, and, unfortunately, some children are dying as you said. we lost a 2 year old at
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children's hospital new orleans to covid over the few days of the hurricane. >> yeah. >> so it is a terribly sad situation that we're facing, and then the hurricane on top of that, of course, put a considerable strain on our staff and our hospital. >> i'm sure. this is a piece, "the new york times" piece in which, you know, you told "the new york times" of the roughly 70 children admitted to the hospital with covid-19 in august, about half were 12 or older and thus eligible for vaccination, but only one, only one of them was fully vaccinated. are you seeing what we've seen around the country, that the people filling up your icus and your -- the children's wings are unvaccinated either because they're under 12 or they're over 12 and just did not get the vaccine? >> right. well, absolutely. the only group in the united states that is 100% unvaccinated is children under the age of 12 years. they've not yet had an opportunity to take the vaccine.
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and then among children who are 12 years of age or older, in louisiana only about 13% of children have been vaccinated. nationally, the figure i think is between 30% and 40%. we've got to do a much better job in both of those age groups, but, furthermore, adults have to step up and take responsibility. the only way that children under 12 have of protecting themselves is really to be surrounded by adults who are vaccinated, who are wearing masks and doing the right thing. unfortunately, too few of us have shown that responsibility and gotten vaccinated, not just to protect ourselves and our communities but to protect the most vulnerable members of our societies, and that's children under 12. >> you know, i spoke to someone today and we were saying i never thought i would get to see the day when people didn't care if children got sick, right. we are at a point now where people are demanding their right to be unmasked and unvaccinated and not seeming to care whether
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children get sick. a lot of these people assume children won't get sick and won't get covid, and even if they get it they won't have sim tips and won't die. obviously it is not true. you are seeing it around you. when people realize that and they're in the hospital with their child, are people changing their minds? are you seeing people saying, i've changed my mind, now i think i should be vaccinated, or not? >> we have. of course, not all of the children are infected by unvaccinated parents. sometimes there's an aunt or an uncle or another adult in the environment that is the source of the infection. but by and large the children who we have seen in the hospital have been infected by unvaccinated adults. we've just got to do better for our children. we have to con con them or surround themselves about adults who have protected themselves by masking up and vaccinating. these two measures, they're just common sense public health
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measures. masks are safe, masks work. the vaccines are probably as safe and effective as any vaccines ever developed for any disease. these are not issues of personal freedom. they're issues of public safety, and we have to start looking at them as such and recognizing that we're all at risk if even one person decides that they're not going to either mask up or vaccinate. >> yeah. it is shocking to me that people are still insisting on making that choice that is making other people including kids sick. it is shocking that's where we are, but that's where we are. dr. mark kline, thank you for all you do. coming up, the leader contender to replace governor california newsom disagrees with almost everything you heard from dr. kline. he says kids don't need masks or vaccinations, and if they contract covid they won't die. this is why the recall election is so critical and important and we will talk about it next.
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i don't believe the science suggests that young people should be vaccinated. i don't believe the science suggests that young people should have to wear masks at school. i'm not sure the scientists have said that at all. young people are not likely to contract the coronavirus, and when they do their symptoms are likely to be mild and they're not likely to be hospitalized. they're certainly not likely to die. >> he's not a scientist. there was so much wrong with what you just heard. if that was just your run-of-the-mill right-wing provocateur you might not give it much thought. but he is the front-runner to unseat governor newsom in the recall election two weeks away. governor newsom is warning of the dangerous path ahead for californians if he is replaced by larry elder. >> his model is texas and
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florida and mississippi, and i hope people pause and just consider the life and death consequences of that decision. we have among the lowest positivity rates in america. they have the highest positivity rates in america. we have one of the lowest case rates in america. they have among the highest case rates in america. >> joining me is congresswoman karen bass of california and christine pelosi from california. i have to tell you right now, congresswoman bass, the thing keeping me up -- a lot is keeping me up lately, but the thing that is really leaving me up is the idea of a super texas in california. larry elder being governor of california means in theory if dianne feinstein were to retire he could replace her, probably with stephen miller in the united states senate. all that could be wrong, and just unleashing covid to run rampant through the population of 39.5 million people. how likely is this to happen in your view? >> well, that was a very
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frightening thought, to cause nightmares. let me just tell you that it is really on us, and i think we are doing well, to make sure that we get people to vote. you know that the election ends september 14th. the election is going on right now. in california, everyone has a ballot. so our challenge is instead of turning out people to vote, we want to -- we want people to turn in their ballots. so it is looking good. 58% of californians right now in the latest poll do not support the recall, but we cannot rest because the republican voters, the ones that are anti-mask and holding the rallies and all of that, they are highly motivated. we have to make sure that our voters are motivated. i have to tell you, joy, in los angeles we are very familiar with larry elder. he has been around for three decades and he has built an entire career on attacking the black community. so no surprises from us about
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him. >> like candace owens but a guy. >> exactly. >> i mean he is. >> exactly. >> christine, i am always afraid to show the polls. i'm going to show them quickly, briefly, because they make me nervous because i worry about the enthusiasm gap. the polls say that the no vote has been actually increasing, slightly increasing from march to september, that more people are against recalling the current governor, which seems like good news. but the enthusiasm poll, as congresswoman bass just mentioned, it is republicans that are the most enthusiastic. they are amped up to turn california into a super texas or a super florida, which would essentially tank the economy of california, cause a health crisis, destroy climate change, any attempts to stop climate change. i mean it would be a nightmare. are you as worried as i am? >> probably more so, joy. wonderful to be with you and, of course, karen bass has been leading women against the recall
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for months now, making sure that women, particularly black women are reaching out to their peers and urging a "no" vote. it is very important we look at this polling with what joe biden needs to say, don't compare me to the almighty, chairman me to the alternative. so, one, it was the almighty of, i hate being home, i hate being locked down for covid, my child is in public school and she is now at home behind a computer away from her friends. the list goes on and on. of course, compared to the almighty, sure, why not compare a recall petition. now we have the alternative. if the alternative is a public schools director like betsy devos or judges like alito who just affirmed that texas law that larry elder says are going to be his models for governance, then we're in trouble. so i think that's why you see democrats being very, very concerned. of course, this texas law really woke up a lot of activists and a lot of women who, like me, didn't find out that we were
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pregnant until we were past the six week mark. i mean i passed out in a yoga class and i went to the doctor a week later, i was 6 1/2 weeks pregnant with my daughter bella. now, it was a wonderful experience for me but i wouldn't even have a choice to have a choice if that were happening right now in texas. i prosecuted rape, i prosecuted incest pregnancies which is rape by a trusted family member. these are brutal situations. if you have to say no matter what you are having that child, it is a terrible fate to put on a woman and the relationship she would have with her child. it is really important we remember the individuals and that we do work as hard as we can. what can we do in california? we can get out the "no" vote on the recall. what can we do? we can make sure that people follow the lead of congresswoman bass, congresswoman chu and
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speaker pelosi and pass the law to codify roe v. wade. and we can make sure we support president biden if he decides to federalize in texas or allow places like the 15 military bases to be places where we could perform reproductive health care services. so so there are choices before us. but again, that's because we're looking at the alternative. and it's pretty scary. >> you know what frightens me, congresswoman, is california, look, people who think -- well, california is a blue state, yeah but california had governors, reagan and nixon and arnold schwarzenegger won a recall. it's not likest impossible. the impossible is quite possible. and so i wonder if democrats are taking it too lightly because they think, well, larry elders seems crazy. no way anybody would elect him but he only needs like 12% of the vote. >> well, we just have to remember the last election. what did we think about trump? we didn't think that was going to be possible either. >> right. >> but joy, let me point out
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something because i am concerned that this is actually the beginning of a new republican strategy. do you know that there are 68 recalls going on in the state of california? and this is the sixth time they've tried to recall governor newsom. this is just the first one that was successful. we have a district attorney who is progressive. a new member of the city council. they initiated recalls against them before they even had time to move into their office. so we need to keep our eyes on this to see if the new republican strategy in a blue state is to grind governing to a halt through constant recalls. we need to reform this process because if it is their new strategy, we need to stop it dead in its tracks. >> just to that point here, there are 20 states that have gubernatorial provisions, alaska, california, colorado, georgia, idaho, illinois, kansas, michigan, montana, nevada, new jersey, north dakota, rhode island, virginia, wisconsin. if you don't think they're going
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to try it again and that this is not their new strategy along with having militias enforce their minority rule laws, thug-aucracy, if you don't think this is their strategy, y'all don't know republicans. thank you both very much. if you guessed conservatives on the supreme court, you're close. but it's their elected enablers should have everybody's blood boiling. we'll be right back. e everybody boiling. we'll be right back. yeah...uh... doug? sorry about that. umm... what...its...um... you alright? [sigh] [ding] never settle with power e*trade. it has powerful, easy-to-use tools to help you find opportunities, 24/7 support when you need answers plus some of the lowest options and futures contract prices around. don't get mad. get e*trade and start trading today.
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♪♪ at 12:01 this morning, years of vile and insidious attacks on reproductive rights delivered the result the right was to desperate to achieve. five republican-nominated supreme court justices refused to block the texas abortion ban. as a result, roe v. wade protections no longer exist in our nation's second largest
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state. two of those five justices gorsuch and kavanaugh are sitting on the bench thanks to one main senator named susan collins who spent months assuring american women that both justices would respect the precedent of roe. collins delivered a 45-minute speech going to the mat for brett kavanaugh accused of sexual assault. insisting that he would in no way trim or narrow a woman's reproductive rights. >> to my knowledge, judge kavanaugh is the first supreme court nominee to express the view that precedent is not merely a practice and tradition but rooted in article 3 of our constitution itself. as the judge asserted to me a long established precedent is not something to be trimmed, narrowed, discarded or
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overlooked. in short, his views on honoring precedent would preclude attempts to do by self that which one has committed not to do overtly. >> mind you, her reliable republican ally senator lisa murkowski of alaska announced she would break with her party and vote for against beer chugging judge. collins vote helped deliver the 50 votes kavanaugh need and by doing so the so-called ally of abortion rights co-signed their demise. at the time collins was pressed by cnn's dana bash if she was sure kavanaugh wouldn't undermine precedent. here is what she said, indignant the question was posed. >> i do not believe that brett kavanaugh will overturned. >> his precedents are overturned all the time. >> they aren't. >> you have full confidence? >> i do. >> you sure about that now,
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susan? want to say that again? to the thousands of women in texas with the protections of roe v. wade are no longer applicable. at the time collins was facing a tough re-election fight. she went on "60 minutes" obviously she would not in good conscience vote for someone who would strip nearly half of the american population of their equal rights under the law. >> i could not vote for a judge who had demonstrated hostility to roe v. wade because it would indicate a lack of respect for precedent. >> yeah, but that's exactly what she did. and those fraudulent assertions got her another term in the united states senate. six more years of this. at the time, "the new york times" wrote, if she's wrong about judge kavanaugh, and he joins an effort to overturn roe, she would no doubt be held responsible. today, susan issued a statement. apparently too afraid to face reporters. trying to assure americans that the court hasn't given up on the
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constitutionality of roe v. wade, while also condemning the new texas law. but still, senator collins, you want to go down to texas or to any of the other states that are lining up to do the same thing and apologize to those women? not sure that will do any good. the damage is already done. sadly nothing will change the fact that you played a central role if not the key role in the deg regags of women's rights. your betrayal of women because of your blind faith in justice kavanaugh and justice gorsuch makes you, susan, tonights absolute worst. "all in with chris hayes" starts now. ♪♪ tonight on "all in," the fix is in. a texas law deliberately engineered so conservatives on the supreme court would end a woman's right to choose. >> clever. very, very -- >> tonight, the new blueprint for red states to ban abortion and what democrats need to do right now
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